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I am horrified to read all of this, how can they call themselves a rescue when they are not prepared to be  open to all kinds of homes that offer a great life for a cat who is shut in one of their prison cells.

Sounds like they do not really care about the quality of the new owners only that they must allow any cat outside no matter what the situation is.................even Sasa a semi feral was scared to go outside after spending over a year in a pen and it was her choice to go out when she did. She spent 3 months sitting on the window sill with Misa just watching outside.

All rescues are bursting with cats needing homes and wonder how many cats this ummmmmmmmm rescue has turned away because they are full!

I do hope your letter makes them think again  :hug: :hug: :hug:

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Brilliant letter  :wow:  - I'm just so cross that you have to justify yourselves to them though  >:(

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If they decline again I for one would be very happy to write to them too  - I think they are out of their trees!!! >:(



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I think that's a great letter and I really hope they reconsider their decision.  I hadn't realised Princess was formerly an indoor cat - that makes it all even more bonkers.  Not only are they saying that a formerly indoor cat must have outdoor access (obviously you don't have a problem with that) but on top of that they are insisting she be allowed to come and go freely through a cat flap and should not be confined indoors during the day!  She might end up being a cat who prefers to not go out much.

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That's an excellent letter! Well Done.
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« Reply #56 on: August 03, 2011, 16:26:50 PM »
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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #55 on: August 03, 2011, 15:49:00 PM »
Simon, your response to them was fantastic. Your passion and caring really came across, and your arguments were well thought through and well put.

If they don't reconsider you after that, they have hearts of stone (no pun intended!).
« Last Edit: August 03, 2011, 15:49:36 PM by jezebel »
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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #54 on: August 03, 2011, 15:35:15 PM »
Very good email Simon.  I do hope sense prevails  :hug:

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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2011, 15:17:13 PM »
I took it to mean rejected again???

Oh  :(

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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2011, 15:13:32 PM »
I took it to mean rejected again???

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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2011, 15:10:29 PM »
You mean they've changed their minds?

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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2011, 14:56:35 PM »
Simon  :hug:
I take it Princess has a cat flap fitted to this wonderful jail she is currently in.

Nothing against people with cat flaps but when I rehome I breathe a sigh of relief if there isnt a catflap because I know the human will end up being a doorman/lady just like me.

You have 2 choices either take it further and fight until you get Princess or find a rescue thats run by really caring people such as Angie. Only you can decide what you are going to do but the sooner you take action the sooner some very lucky cat gets to join your family.

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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #49 on: August 03, 2011, 14:55:13 PM »
Sadly this is not the first instance I have heard of local to me also. I have rehomed several cats quite happily where there is no cat flap - one of my little kittens Lunar is going to a new home this week without one. They are fitting one next year, when she is spayed and old enough to go out. Some of these cats have gone to loving homes who have been turned down by other rescues for this reason.

I personally (and this is only my opinion) prefer there NOT to be a flap initally as there is less chance for a cat to gain access to the outside in the first few weeks.

Mine is on "in-only" from tea-time, but my little Lily can still hook it open!  :naughty: Frustratingly she has also kindly taught Polly - shy CovCats foster - to do the same in the last few weeks  :shocked: so I have now 2 nauty-tortie-white girls to try to get and keep in each night. Get one in, then try to get other before 1st escapes again. Madness at times! Must be something in the colour :rofl:

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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2011, 14:35:53 PM »
and makes me quite angry...

Me too  >:(  What is wrong with this rescue?

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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2011, 14:09:48 PM »
Just catching up on this... it's really very sad.. and makes me quite angry... my girls never go out as I feel it would be too dangerous on account of their deafness (although I'm considering lead training them in the near future) and are very loved happy and content. The shelter I got them from recognised this. How can they justify such a decision when she's been unhomes for so long?  :(
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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2011, 14:07:41 PM »
I am sorry to hear this and also sorry for little Princess. Two many rules and regulations spoiling the future for needy little ones.
I wonder what exactly she is in now if not a prison :(
There will be a cat there for you to love I'm sure and I hope Princess gets the home she deserves.
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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2011, 13:58:56 PM »
I'm sad for you and your OH and also sad for Princess  :(  :hug:

Aw Simon, just read the new title of this thread - that's completely unfair.

No disrespect to the rescue involved (nor to any rescues) but at times like this when rescues everywhere are overflowing and when more and more people are getting rid of their cats, I do think that some rules should be relaxed.

You already have two happy, healthy cats, I really don't know what more they could ask for.

I was going to type a reply but Jezebel has said exactly what I was going to say.




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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2011, 13:58:26 PM »
I assume from title change that you have definitely been refused and Princess is to remain in the pen in the hope that another home will be offered?  Oh dear  :( :( :(

You may not be up for this Simon but I would encourage you to drop the rescue something in writing explaining exactly how the comings and goings work in your home.  I imagine the main reason for rescues insisting on a catflap is that, without one, a cat would normally find itself locked out rather than in?

Have to say our lot are very frustrated atm due to usual 24/7 access being interfered with as the catflap is set to "in only" when Boris is out of his room.   However, you must feel a great deal more frustrated with rescues' catflap rule.  I am sure they are as full to the brim as others and it is sad to think that this little lady could have such excellent slaves  :( :(

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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2011, 13:56:38 PM »
I totally agree with what you say as we don't have cat flaps either I like to control the Clans movements to and spend several hours in the evening rounding them up due to my feral odd door and window selection sometimes I feel like an army general moving hte cats around so the ferals can come in and nobdy gets past me :shocked:

So sad that they aren't willing to budge in a small incidental item like that because she would have had a wonderful home with you all and there in lies a lot of problems for rescues who can't see past a minor thing like that and will have her in a pen for god knows how long instead of in a loving home :hug:
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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2011, 13:56:07 PM »
That's so unfair and I so disagree with blanket rules like that.  It's not as though you are saying you want to keep her as an indoor cat - you are just saying you want to control her comings and goings which is what a lot of people do.  Unfortunately it's cats like Princess who suffer due to them.

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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2011, 13:54:56 PM »
unbelievable, just the sort of thing that makes people avoid rescues

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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2011, 13:53:40 PM »
Princess has been in a cage since February - that's far, far worse.
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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2011, 13:49:13 PM »
Aw Simon, just read the new title of this thread - that's completely unfair.

No disrespect to the rescue involved (nor to any rescues) but at times like this when rescues everywhere are overflowing and when more and more people are getting rid of their cats, I do think that some rules should be relaxed.

You already have two happy, healthy cats, I really don't know what more they could ask for.
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Re: Updated: I have been declined to home Princess due to the cat flap
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2011, 13:44:55 PM »
Not lying just be economical with the truth ;)
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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2011, 13:37:13 PM »
You could always have a catflap in a box sitting on the side when they come for a home check and then not fit it :evillaugh: :sneaky:
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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2011, 13:34:36 PM »
What they have never had they won't miss in my opinion. To be honest we said yes will will fit one but never have. The kittens go out when we are about and when it is safe and I think they are quite happy with this. We don't want to risk anything happening to them so now they only go out in a cat proofed area.
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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2011, 13:21:42 PM »
I personally find it causes them frustration trying to get out of it when it is locked. 

Yes, I think thats right, and I don't blame you for standing your ground.

Me too. I bought a cat flap but have never got round to fitting it as, like Simon, I only let the boys out when I'm in (even though my garden is catproofed) and I just know that if I had a flap they would pummel it to within an inch of it's life when it was locked and would just be a source of frustration to them.

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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2011, 12:40:28 PM »
I personally find it causes them frustration trying to get out of it when it is locked. 

I don't understand why not having a cat flap makes any difference whatsoever. If thats a deciding factor when looking for potential homes - then I despair  :( Its just ridiculous  Surely if they can see its obviously working for Ella and Archie, they cannot object?

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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2011, 12:33:33 PM »
I personally find it causes them frustration trying to get out of it when it is locked. 

Yes, I think thats right, and I don't blame you for standing your ground.

I don't understand why not having a cat flap makes any difference whatsoever. If thats a deciding factor when looking for potential homes - then I despair  :( Its just ridiculous  Surely if they can see its obviously working for Ella and Archie, they cannot object? 

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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2011, 12:11:22 PM »
Since February? Poor little thing!  :(
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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2011, 10:50:18 AM »
Good luck.  :hug:

If the cat flap is an issue you could always get one and keep it locked except when they come to check.  :evillaugh:  Expensive solution  I know but if it gets you your Princess ..............

I was going to say the same.  If it's possible to get a cat flap installed then you could put one in but as to whether you use it - well only you can decide the actual how and whens of when your cats actually go out  ;)

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« Reply #30 on: August 03, 2011, 10:34:59 AM »
Someone I know adopted two kittens from Celia Hammond on condition she got a cat flap installed.

(She did eventually, but not for several months!)
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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2011, 10:28:35 AM »
Good luck.  :hug:

If the cat flap is an issue you could always get one and keep it locked except when they come to check.  :evillaugh:  Expensive solution  I know but if it gets you your Princess ..............

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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2011, 10:08:40 AM »
:crossed:

It would be crazy if the cat flap thing stopped her from having a fabulous home, they only need to read a handful of your posts on here to see how much you love your cats and what a fantastic home they have  :hug:

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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2011, 09:27:44 AM »
Well although she will be my Princess, I will have to change her name. Princess is the name of the  daughter of Katie Price and me standing on the door step shouting "Prrrrrrrrrrrrrrrinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnncess" is just too chav for words.

:rofl: I didn't know that!
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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2011, 08:26:46 AM »
Beautiful girl.  Just noticed the signature  :evillaugh:  Fingers crossed here too  :wish:

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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2011, 08:13:45 AM »
Fingers and toes crossed here too  :hug:
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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2011, 08:07:04 AM »
Keeping everything crossed for you!

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2011, 02:03:30 AM »
My fingers are well and truly crossed for you Si.

Love that photo of her and so glad to see Effie's photo is back  :Luv2: :hug:

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Re: Updated: Have applied to adopt Princess, the cat I saw a few weeks ago
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2011, 23:55:30 PM »
Waiting with baited breath again  ;)

 


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