Author Topic: RIP baby Max: PLEASE READ UPDATE THREAD  (Read 73285 times)

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First up he ate a little chicken Applaws but then vomited it up, with some foam too. So we hugged him for an hour, then OH got him to eat a small plate of i/d. That will probably be all he'll eat until maybe tonight, he's just not interested. He's drinking a lot so I assume his kidneys are lousy.  But at present his behaviour is ok. He is purring and still licking his own whiskers and moving to the bed to say hello occasionally if I am resting. But I tried to assist feed him a bit and I need practice (used my finger, not a stressy syringe).

He's never eaten when well and stressed, so being unwell is doubly difficult. Will see what the vet says later. I hope he is working today and it's not the locum and that he really applies his mind in a busy surgery to Max's eating problems. I don't know just how much is enough p.d.  I don't know at what point sardines get given because they may be eaten, or whether I can hold out and he just eats 2 tiny plates of something chickeny a day and that is enough.  Max is on kaminox for his amino acids and vitamins.

I need to remember to ask if cat milk (senior) is ok assuming Max would take it.

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Hope his little Maxness is feeling better this morning after mega cuddles with Swampy.  I am sending you loads of pos thoughts and hope he has eaten.
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Morning Kate, how is Max doing this morning, have you managed to get him to eat anything yet,,my thoughts are with you and im sending lots of positive vibes for him and for Swampy and hugs for you :hug: :hug:
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Sorry -try  www.zooplus.co.uk  or www.seapets.co.uk.  ( click on cats , then cat food -Almo nature is buy 10 get 2 free as well -pouches and tins )
Hope you find something he likes and he starts to eat more . :hug: :hug:
« Last Edit: May 17, 2009, 23:28:44 PM by bunglycat »

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He might be just totally exhausted as he has been through an awful lot of stressful situations.  Try not to make too much fuss around his food as this will make him anxious wont it?  Keep persevering with anything he will like and once he is eating try the more suitable ones, maybe with a little dry added?

Try not to be too anxious Kate.   Will PM you later as need to do some stuff
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thanks, but the link goes to an error page (?). I've left out a little dry food but right now he's not interested in any food at all. He is just lying in bed. Sometimes he gets up for a drink or a wee and this morning he wanted to come and lie with me and purr, but since then he's been mostly asleep. Today's the first day without fluids for a week. I am getting very down about it all, I don't know what to try. I will try him with more Applaws this evening and maybe syringe yet more water into him, although that's only about 5mls. He is drinking a bit by himself. His wee is so foamy.
The vet isn't keen on periactin, I don't know why. He says it doesn't work for long either. Surely it can be taken every other day or every 3rd day - do you think it may work then? At least then he may eat a bit more every few days.
He still looks well and is on Kaminox too, but he's clearly not at all well.

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I think zooplus sell almo nature .
Hope he starts to eat more soon. :hug: :hug: :hug:

www.almo-nature.co.uk - found this too .
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Kate will he eat mince - like beef mince or turkey something like that? I agree with Des though, if dry is all he'll eat then better he has that than nothing - you can just make sure he keeps his liquids up with the subq's and maybe try a chicken broth with just the teensiest amount of liquid from something fishy to tempt him.  :hug:

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Kate, it might be worth giving him small amounts of dry food, even if it isn't good for his kidneys, as he has to eat. IF he has had sub-q fluids, it should help his hydration.
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Almo nature is like applaws - same kind of thing - chicken with cheese, pumpkin etc and it is flaked chicken in broth.  They do more varieties than applaws.  The senior is, like I said, more minced and contains egg and carrot.  It says complete on the tin but there is no mention of added minerals so I would treat it as complementary.  I thought that if Max likes the applaws he might like that, and I'd guess the senior version might be better for the kidney probs.

I have a small tin in so if you pm me your address I will send you that tin to see if Max shows any interest in it.

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Is he drinking?  Little and often with the food I would suggest, just a spoonful every hour or so to at least get something in him.  THese cats sure know how to stress us out don't they?  :hug:

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I'm glad he's home  ;D  Lots of hugs for Maxy  :hug: :hug: :hug: and some for Swampy too so that he doesn't feel left out  :hug: :hug: :hug:

Kate, almo nature do a senior food - dont' know whether that might be more suitable for a CRF cat than the standard applaws/almo nature?  Think I might have a tin in so will try to see whether it is complete or complementary.  It's not the same texture as the normal stuff but more minced.  And contains carrots  :shify:

He ate a teeny bit of senior chicken pate at 3.30am after much coaxing and a tiny nibble of chicken breast Applaws this morning. He is not unhappy but he'll weaken if he doesn't eat more soon. Sorry, don't know what almo nature is please? Where do you get it? Anything is worth a try. He's not allowed fishy stuff though. This morning at 5 he came to sit on my head and have a purr so he is destressing. He and Swampy had a lovely eyebrow nuzzle too. I have to keep his fluids up- his appointment is only 5.30pm monday, unless it's urgent - and try to get him to eat. It's not just that he feels a bit sick, but his food has been changed suddenly, from dry to wet and he's completely gone off his turkey food that he loved. Wont' touch a drop.

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So pleased he is home and snuggling up with Swampy .
Hope he eats more tonight and tomorrow.
Topping up the healing vibes for Swampy and Max and also eating vibes for Max. :hug: :hug:

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Pleased he is home and snuggling with his mate  ;D

Maybe when he destresses a bit he will eat something  :hug: :hug:

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Oh yet another stressful time for you all round!  :hug:

C'mon Max....eat your food it will make you feel much better!  :Luv: :hug: :hug:

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 Sending lots of positive vibes to Max. :hug: :hug:

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Max is safely home but he won't really eat. Since he's got home he's eaten about 1/4 of one of those tiny Applaws chicken tins and recently ate 1/8th little tin of senior chicken pate, that's all. No interest in fresh chicken either. It's going to be really difficult. He seems happy to be home and he and Swampy were curled up together in no time. But please send vibes and prayers that he will improve and eat something.

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Hope he is now home and feeling better:)

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I'm glad he's home  ;D  Lots of hugs for Maxy  :hug: :hug: :hug: and some for Swampy too so that he doesn't feel left out  :hug: :hug: :hug:

Kate, almo nature do a senior food - dont' know whether that might be more suitable for a CRF cat than the standard applaws/almo nature?  Think I might have a tin in so will try to see whether it is complete or complementary.  It's not the same texture as the normal stuff but more minced.  And contains carrots  :shify:

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Hoping that all went to plan and he is now home?  :Luv: :hug:

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We have someone coming today to stay tonight, but I will defo post later when he is home. The appointment is for 12 so he should be home by 12.45!

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So pleased his results are better -really hope everything goes okay when he comes home .
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The reduction in the results sound very positive and hope he continues his improvement.  That picture is lovely  ;D

I wouldnt be worried about him being tired because he has been through a lot recently and its the bodies way of trying to cope  :hug:

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I'll ask the vet tomorrow. He fixates on renal food, which Max doesn't like. I know he'd eat sardines, tuna that kind of thing, but it's not good for urinary tracts and I can't do anything which brings back a blockage. I'm hoping he will eat a bit of i/d, Applaws and...??  I wish I could find something he really liked.

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needs to eat more but not sure what as what he always ate before was dry food and only a tiny bit of wet. I'm scared he will block again if I let him eat dry food. 

That sounds really positive his creat/urea have come down  :hug: lets hope it stays that way. That photo you posted earlier is brill  :Luv:

What does the vet recommend food wise?

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Max almost went to sleep on me during my visit this evening. He won't eat much, which is the main concern, but his blood results are a little better, especially the creatinine which is now in the 300s. His urea is 17.
I didn't see the vet (too busy) but we are fetching him home, all being well, at 12 tomorrow and deep breath that he will eat and not deteriorate. I think he will have sub cut fluids before he comes home. I took a mobile photo of him which I may work out (sometime!) how to post. He was in quite a good mood and purring, just seemed fatigued. I think he needs to eat more but not sure what as what he always ate before was dry food and only a tiny bit of wet. I'm scared he will block again if I let him eat dry food.  He just seemed not to have much energy and had wrapped himself up totally in his blanket (not visible when I got there, bless him). The kitten is only now really waking up. His only other neighbour is very poorly, poor boy.
I told him everyone sent him such good vibes  :hug: to you all.

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Aww bless him, lovely photo. :Luv:
I think the kitten will stop crying and settles and hopefully Max comes home tomorrow. :hug:

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Aw what a scrummy boy he is!  :drool;

Good Luck for the bloods!  :Luv: :hug: :hug:

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Lovely photograph Kate.  Aren't we all extremely lucky that these beautiful cats of ours give us so much pleasure, for which ultimately we all have to endure the unendurable.  A price worth the asking.   :hug:

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He is coping fine Kate,  you didn't think he would cope at all and he has.  The kitten will settle and be gone tomorrow.  Hopefully Max will be home tomorrow and hopefully too his results will be better today.  Hour by hour  :hug:

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Max was nervy this morning as a very cute kitten had been put in the cage above him and was miaowing a lot. The kitten is in for the night :(  Anyhow he did manage a purr when I cuddled him and he ate a tiny bit of i/d, having pretty much refused the renal food they offered him.  I didn't want to stuff him with Applaws as he is due to have more bloods later and I don't want them to affect the result. He had a good complain when I left too. Max hates any other animals so not sure how he's going to get on tonight. The kitten's in for neutering and his owner can't fetch him until tomorrow so it's upsetting as it's not really that he's even sick.
His other neighbour is terribly ill with diabetes and makes no noise at all, poor little thing.

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