Topic: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly (Read 37948 times)

Susanne (urbantigers) · « **Reply #184 on:** November 27, 2007, 18:47:41 PM »

So what's your vet's take on all this, Gillian? Does your vet think that Gwyn probably has FIP? Or is it just a case of watch and wait? Must be terribly frustrating for you. Lots of

for you and Gwyn.

dolcetta46 · « **Reply #183 on:** November 27, 2007, 18:39:18 PM »

"she is showing a high coronovirus antibody titre - 2,500 which is very high"

Apology for my ignorance (yet again!

) can someone educate me what could this signify? I am so ignorant about medical conditions...

But from what I gather it was no sunny happy news for our dear Gwyn

fingers and everything else are still tightly crossed for her, postivie thoughts still being pumped out in her direction... still hoping the tide will be reversed and she will be back to herself somehow soon....

Millys Mum · « **Reply #182 on:** November 27, 2007, 17:53:47 PM »

Thats good her normal bloods are ok. I think the fip ones are seperate to those

Re testing her titre wouldnt achieve much in regards to a diagnosis as it just indicates exposure to corona.

for you and tickles for Gywn

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #181 on:** November 27, 2007, 17:20:59 PM »

i didnt have time to look at that site last night grrrrrrrrrrrr.

i am keeping all my thoughts for gwyn and the other sick cats and hope that they find out what is causing her problem.

try and stay positive cos that will help her

Gillian Harvey · « **Reply #180 on:** November 27, 2007, 17:06:50 PM »

Quote from: Gill (sneakiefeline) on November 26, 2007, 19:49:04 PM

I remember you saying that one of the other kittens died, what was the cause?
I will go and try and plod through Dr Addies stuff later, does your vet know about this site?

The kitten that died belonged to the breeder who had Gwyn's sister - he had to be pts because of the nutritional deficiency, but only because it took several months to diagnose what was wrong with him, by that time it was too late, if they'd known what was wrong he could have been saved.

I think my vet would know about Dr Addie, she's very cat oriented and her practice is a FAB member, but I'm going to print off some stuff anyway.

MM and Des, yes she recommended testing again, but I don't know when she is going to do that, and thinking about it aftewards, I was surprised she didnt go through the full blood profile with me in the light of these high titre readings. BUT, although I havent seen the blood profile results yet, as she didnt have time to copy them on Friday - I remember her saying earlier in the week that there was 'nothing untoward' about them.

Ros, I panicked this morning because she didnt want to eat and just wanted to sleep, but she perked up as today's gone on, and she had quite a few RC biscuits at about 3pm and was looking around for more! Then she had a little play and still seems quite lively. I would say her legs are about the same, no worse anyway.

I'm worried about every little thing she does (or doesnt!) do.

Dawn F · « **Reply #179 on:** November 27, 2007, 09:27:03 AM »

sorry this doesn't seem to be getting anyway fast Gillian, what happens now?

sheryl · « **Reply #178 on:** November 27, 2007, 09:20:50 AM »

Hugs and cuddles for you both and heaps more helaing vibes for little Gwyn xxx

I know its difficult Gillian but try to stay positive, thinking of you xxx

clarenmax · « **Reply #177 on:** November 27, 2007, 09:01:26 AM »

Thinking of you, and sending over a new bundle of positive healing vibes for Gwynnie

Rosella moggy · « **Reply #176 on:** November 27, 2007, 08:59:18 AM »

Will leave it to others with more experience to offer advice on what may be wrong with our little girl but really feel for you Gillian. Apart from her temperature being a little high, is Gwyn continuing to improve and is she still eating and playing OK?

Jasmine · « **Reply #175 on:** November 26, 2007, 22:36:33 PM »

Sending healing thoughts to Gwyn.

Jas
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Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #174 on:** November 26, 2007, 22:26:34 PM »

Sorry to hear that the titre test was high Gillian, have they recommended further testing?

Millys Mum · « **Reply #173 on:** November 26, 2007, 20:57:58 PM »

The high titre means little in regards to fip, she could have plain old fcov. Have they considered testing further to compare her other stats as fip cats tend to have certain readings that indicates it.

Christine (Blip) · « **Reply #172 on:** November 26, 2007, 20:51:15 PM »

Thinking positive thoughts for you both

Keep us posted...

Tiggy's Mum · « **Reply #171 on:** November 26, 2007, 20:38:23 PM »

Sorry the news isn't more positive, thinking of you both

Kittybabe (Ruth) · « **Reply #170 on:** November 26, 2007, 20:07:07 PM »

Likewise. A big cuddle for both of you.

Mark · « **Reply #169 on:** November 26, 2007, 20:06:29 PM »

Gillian. I don't know anything about this virus but hoping for the best for you & Gwyn

Susanne (urbantigers) · « **Reply #168 on:** November 26, 2007, 19:52:40 PM »

Oh Gilian - I'm really hoping that the coronovirus result doesn't mean she has FIP

blackcat · « **Reply #167 on:** November 26, 2007, 19:51:02 PM »

oh, all my fingers and toes are crossed for the lovely Gwynnie, how terrible for you. It must be so hard to take in ...

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #166 on:** November 26, 2007, 19:49:04 PM »

I am so sorry about this result and you are right she may not have FIP.

I remember you saying that one of the other kittens died, what was the cause?

I will go and try and plod through Dr Addies stuff later, does your vet know about this site?

My thoughts are with you and little Gwyn

Gillian Harvey · « **Reply #165 on:** November 26, 2007, 19:44:36 PM »

The toxo and FIP tests are in. Unfortunately she is showing a high coronovirus antibody titre - 2,500 which is very high, I know it doesnt mean she's actually got FIP, but my vet is very concerned, and I asked would she have expected her to have high titres, having come from a multicat household (the breeder) into my multicat household, and she said no she wouldnt have expected it, but is not surprised by it, given the possible neurological signs with her legs.

She had a slight temperature tonight too - although we did have to wait nearly 40 minutes in the waiting room, it was warm, and she was a bit stressed because there were dogs there, so perhaps that could be why it was slightly up? - I think she said 103.

Toxo was negative. I've got to continue the antibioitics, Baytril only, don't need the antirobe (that was just in case the toxo) and reduce the steroid to quarter tablet once a day from half and see how things go

I've read and re-read Dr Addies site, but not really taking it all in - I was starting to feel hopeful, but now I'm right down in the depths of despair again, because its just waiting to see what happens.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #164 on:** November 26, 2007, 14:18:30 PM »

Yes you will notice everything and in the end your head plays games, I think.

I dont reckon she has either of those and definaetly not FIP. Wishing you lots of luck at the vets and hope that Gwyn is improving and will get better soon

Gillian Harvey · « **Reply #163 on:** November 26, 2007, 14:16:23 PM »

She still seems ok - although I'm worried that her legs maybe arent quite as good today - but I'm probably just noticing every little, slip, slide, wobble etc! She also seems subdued - but that could be the meds perhaps?

I've got an appointment at 5.40 this evening, no word yet on the other results being back, but maybe we might get some come through today, although they did say fip and toxo take a while.

CurlyCatz · « **Reply #162 on:** November 26, 2007, 13:35:08 PM »

I think either the antibiotics are making her better OR the prednisilone but until exact cause is identified i'm not sure we can tell which.

Hows she doing today ?

Dawn F · « **Reply #161 on:** November 26, 2007, 13:29:59 PM »

how is Gwyn today Gillian?

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #160 on:** November 26, 2007, 07:58:03 AM »

Lynn, Baytril was increased for Pebbles, jsut can't remember why she had it.
Gillian, I hope her symptoms dont come back, do you get more results this week?

Susanne (urbantigers) · « **Reply #159 on:** November 26, 2007, 07:04:01 AM »

I'm glad she's seeming better

I hope everything goes well at the vet's today and that you get a few answers.

Gillian Harvey · « **Reply #158 on:** November 25, 2007, 23:24:40 PM »

Quote from: lynn on November 25, 2007, 20:17:21 PM

It is a very good antibiotic though and I am sure the vet will have considered the dosage before prescribing.

Glad to hear she is steadily getting better gillian.

thanks Lynn. I still have this worry that once the all the meds finish the symptoms will return.

CurlyCatz · « **Reply #157 on:** November 25, 2007, 20:17:21 PM »

Hey guys a vast percentage of all drugs give the contraindication of hepatic/renal problems, they are the main organs assosiated with drug elimination so they have to , often as a precaution to cover themselves.
Another thing esp with antibiotics it can often be a common place recomendation to be able to increase sometimes double the dose in the case of resistant/severe infections. I dont know about baytril personally for that but it wouldnt surprise me.

It is a very good antibiotic though and I am sure the vet will have considered the dosage before prescribing.

Glad to hear she is steadily getting better gillian.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #156 on:** November 25, 2007, 19:11:51 PM »

I remember querying that too Gillian, my vet told me PEbbles needed a stronger dosage, but I would be querying that tomorrow with the vets.

Mark · « **Reply #155 on:** November 25, 2007, 19:07:34 PM »

And the issue with Baytril is the blood concentration of it

All the sites I looked at said MAX safe dosage is 5mg per day per kg

Gillian Harvey · « **Reply #154 on:** November 25, 2007, 18:55:41 PM »

I remember the scares about Baytril causing blindness - ok I've just checked her meds and I've got Baytril 15mg - told to give 1 per day. BUT on the back of the bubble pack where you push the pill out it says 1 tab per 3kg - well Gwyn is half that weight!!!

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #153 on:** November 25, 2007, 18:29:23 PM »

Convenia. my vet has never offered that one, but the rescue's vet seems to offer it for anything, despite it only being useful for 2 things.

Mark · « **Reply #152 on:** November 25, 2007, 18:26:41 PM »

Me too - also the med that Gillian mentioned recently (can't think of the name right now) that the vet gave to Alice. When I asked if it was the drug that shouldn't be given to cats with CRF, he said no

- at the time, Alice's bloods hadn't been done - thankfully her bloods are fine but I wonder how many other pets are given meds despite warnings.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #151 on:** November 25, 2007, 18:19:23 PM »

Pebbles was only 10 fortunately, and bloods showed her organs were fine. Will certainly bear it in mind if any of the others have it recommended though.

Mark · « **Reply #150 on:** November 25, 2007, 18:11:19 PM »

I saw in one of those articles it shouldn't be used for geriatrics or cats with kidney problems. One of the problems with drugs like this, not all vets are aware of all the contras

"My current recommendations are as follows: First, use Baytril only if another medication would not be suitable to treat the infection. In general, Baytril can be reserved for serious acute or difficult-to-treat chronic infections. Second, whenever possible, use a natural antibiotic-alternative for mild infectious problems, such as some of the supplements recommended earlier in this article. Extra caution is warranted in geriatric cats, especially those with underlying dehydration or kidney disease (the dosage of Baytril in the blood is increased in the presence of reduced kidney function.) In cats, I try to avoid any dose over 5 mg/kg per day, and only use Baytril if absolutely needed for as short a period as possible"

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #149 on:** November 25, 2007, 18:08:15 PM »

The only problem I had was that Pebbles had a great dislike to it (more so than most tablets), but the vet said it had to be used for one of her last illnesses, somethign to do with the bloods they had done showed certain ones had to be used.

Mark · « **Reply #148 on:** November 25, 2007, 18:04:32 PM »

I wish I could find the article I found by accident last year as it blasted Baytril. AFAIK, none of mine have had it. I think it is probably safe but seems a lot of animals are allergic. I only posted a few but there are loads of articles about it and it is worrying when there must be alternatives?

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #147 on:** November 25, 2007, 17:59:01 PM »

That's interesting Mark. I have used Baytril loads of times and had no issues whatsover, and never heard of any either.

Mark · « **Reply #146 on:** November 25, 2007, 17:56:08 PM »

Hi Gillian I hope she is improving. I know you are very careful with contra-indications so when I saw the word Baytril, alarm bells rang. I can't find the warning I saw last year but did a search and quite a few came up - hope you don't mind me posting them as I know you have enough to worry about

http://www.showcatsonline.com/x/baytril_warning.htm
http://www.paw-talk.net/forums/f19/baytril-9665.html
http://www.pettogethers.com/PowerReports/BaytrilBlindnessAndYourCat.aspx
http://action4animals.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/sweepy.htm

Felix (Caroline) · « **Reply #145 on:** November 25, 2007, 15:38:41 PM »

Sending you lots of love xxx

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