Thanks Gill. I had discussed it with the cardiologist last time I seen him and we were going to see how I got on in the next few months, but as well as the fact he gags, he runs away from me and hides if he thinks I'm going to force tablets down him. I don't want it to get to the point where he won't come near me either because he's too scared. I can get him to take his antenolol (he has a heart murmur also) and his furosemide but struggle with the rutin.