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Re: 6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary (S E London) - SORTED
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2011, 12:54:17 PM »
Ok thanks for the update.  I'll move this now.

I really hope that things work out well. 
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Re: 6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary (S E London)
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2011, 09:57:41 AM »
Okay, it seems the family are happy to give her another chance, and try to work through her craziness. Thanks, everyone, for the responses. I sincerely hope this is the last time I have to advertise the poor thing. :)

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Re: 6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary (S E London)
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2010, 13:35:31 PM »
On the behavorist front. any vet should be able to refer a cat to a behavorist of your choice............ie Vicky Halls and if the cat is insured there is usually an amount in there for this.

Sounds like this cat needs a caring adult only , pet free home.

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Re: 6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary (S E London)
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2010, 12:27:50 PM »
 :hug: :hug: :hug:  So sorry I can't help. 

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Re: 6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary (S E London)
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 12:12:28 PM »
I wouldn't expect a 6 year old to adapt suddenly to children either, and I asked my friends to ensure the older child was petting the cat in the right way, and wasn't disturbing her when she was sleeping etc, all the usual things, and I think they were a little offended by my query. They have had her since the end of August, and I guess after four months have just come to conclusion it's not going to work.

Having had Maddy for almost six years myself, I think I can confidently say it's not going to work here either. In the year before I found Maddy a new home (it took me a year to come to that decision and find a suitable home) the younger cats were repeatedly treated for cystitis, as a result of stress, and I had to do a lot of "re-conditioning" work, as it were, with the youngest in order to get her to feel safe and comfortable in the flat again. Of course I want Maddy to get the love and care she deserves, but I can't prioritise that above the sanity of my existing household.

On top of this, I'm in a job now where I travel frequently. This is what I mean when I say my life has a lot of upheaval and uncertainty. It's only for another couple of years, I hope, and in that time I am beyond blessed to have a flatmate who looks after the cats as if they were her own. It's a whole other ball game to ask her to placate, medicate and separate the other one.

I will speak to rescues, in London, Kent and Wiltshire. I suppose Wiltshire would be best as (a) your average property is probably bigger than here in London, and space seems to matter, and (b) there's no point in driving her back across country if someone there has a space for her there.

My God. I absolutely gutted.

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Re: 6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary (S E London)
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2010, 10:12:49 AM »
We have a little lady here who we had on foster from Sunny Harbour - Sarah Mad Kitty's rescue and she was a shredder incredilby nervous and we took her for foster due to our love affair with the ferals and now nearly 7 months on this little lady is turning in to a poppet with me and other lady visitors she was osolated for nearly 4 months here as we had several others still at introduction stage  and she was on Zulkene and we used every trick we know to try and we now have a much happier social little monster who is known now as GigiSkye - we had to change her nake as Sky the dog never knew what he had done wrong :shocked:

We have worked very hard with this little lady and found with her being isolated we could work with her we also had a glass door between her isolation area - 2 guest bedrooms with ensuites so the Clan cats could see her and she could see them and it has worked so much so that she will be staying with us as her Daddy didn't want any of our hard work and shredded skin to be damaged so she is now a full Clan member and whilst she can be a tad shreddy if we approach her in a manner she doesn't like she is now maurading with ours - she still doesn't like the kittens Charlie, Echo and Pagan but they are of the age it doesn't bother them as they have plenty other adults to wind up

Please feel free to pm me if we can be of any help - we have a lot of mixed up kids not for the normal home but can help with hints and tips 
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Re: 6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary (S E London)
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2010, 10:04:21 AM »
I have 7 cats and all pretty normalish but only one of them can bear kids.  I think it's different if a cat is brought up around kids but I wouldn't have thought it would be common for a 6 year old cat to immediately get on with a 4 year old kid tbh.

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Re: 6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary (S E London)
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2010, 07:17:23 AM »
Such a shame that things didn't work out, but I think you need to contact rescues in your area and ask to go on a waiting list in case nothing comes up.  (I gave details in the last thread)  Also by going through a rescue they will be able to assess the cat and find exactly the right home.

I've added the area to the title btw. 
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Re: 6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2010, 01:35:21 AM »
Our vet doesn't offer that kind of service. While I'm willing to switch vets or seek independent advice, I don't think my home is a suitable environment. It's a two bedroom flat with four cats already in it. It's too much in too small an area. She terrorised the younger ones to no end. She's also extremely sensitive, and we've moved a lot in her lifetime, and expect to continue to do so. I thank my lucky stars every day that my remaining cats either view these adventures as a new and exciting endeavour or are so laid back they barely notice a change. I think Maddy needs some proper roots with less activity and less change. An adult-only single-pet household, particularly with a sympathetic owner, e.g. a cat professional or vet nurse, would be ideal: it's just extremely difficult to find.

I've gone through the behavioural steps in my cat books: valerian, Rescue Remedy, Zylkene, and as I say a thorough examination and tests from the vet revealed no physical problem (e.g. no bladder crystals). At one point just over a year ago she ripped out her entire belly fluff, and was bald to half-way down her legs. Thankfully this behaviour has stopped since being somewhere else.

She's a very spirited cat: almost feline bipolar. I almost wondered if -- and I hope this doesn't sound horrible of me -- my friend is exaggerating the cat's symptoms, because she doesn't want to have to deal with her any more. I was very surprised to hear of her attacking people. Yes, she'll swipe if you annoy her when she's already agitated, but she is certainly not - or, at least, wasn't - the kind of cat to walk up to someone and attack. And swiping when irritated is a fairly common behaviour.

I just don't know what to do for her. I'm absolutely desperate to get her into a stable home where she can get over her insecurities and lead the jolly, bubbly life I know she is capable of leading.


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Re: 6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2010, 23:48:59 PM »
That is such a shame :( Sounds like it could have been her perfect home if it weren't for the kids. Maybe she does just need an adult only home where she will be the only pet...bit of a princess lol!! One of my three is slightly more sensitive (she was born on a farm but not feral) she had stress issues earlier this year and was weeing on the dogs bed because she felt safe with him. I was lucky and feliway, kalm aid and an extra litter tray improved the situation massively. My vets were great and I saw the "cat lady" vet who ran through the basic behavioural stuff with me (which was all that was needed) but they then had an escalation process of behavourists. Does your vets have something similar or could the recommend a good behaviourist who specialises in cats? They may be able to give you a further insight into Maddy's problems so that you could have her back (if they think she could cope in your environment with a little work/guidance) or to give new owners an idea of what makes her unhappy so you know where best to place her and new people know how to "deal" with her.

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6 year old psychotic female in need of sanctuary (S E London) - SORTED
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2010, 22:48:46 PM »
Life is a funny thing. I literally just - JUST - posted on here that my cat had gone to a friend's house and was doing well (see http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php/topic,32898.0.html). Today I am informed that this is not the case, and for the past six weeks the cat has been attacking the children (4 and less than a year). The aggressive behaviour and the proximity to the children is the reason why I have posted in the urgent section: I apologise if this was bad judgement on my part. The cat is safe and not at risk of being put to sleep.

I shall fill in the questionnaire as recommended in the pinned post above.

   Your name and contact details: you can contact me through the forum, or you can call - any time of day or night - on zero seven seven one three, five nine eight double four two.
   Where about you live and where the cat/s are if the location is different: I live on the London/Kent border, the cat is in Wiltshire. I will deliver anywhere in the UK. The right home is paramount and location comes a long way after that requirement.
   Name and age/s of the cat: Maddy, 6 years old.
   Colour, long or short haired and breed, if it is a pedigree: Tabby, medium-length coat.
   Posting photographs really do help: Please see other thread (http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php/topic,32898.0.html).
   Cat's background (i.e did you get the cat/s from a rescue etc): Maddy was captured by a rescue centre as a feral kitten, a couple of months old, along with her brothers. Mother was so aggressive she had to be neutered and returned to the woods. Maddy was always a handful, but cheeky rather than naughty. She has not experienced any abuse.
   Cats  general health or special needs (such as diet). Please be honest!: No ongoing physical problems, no particular dietary requirements. Excellent physical health. Exhibits signs of stress and aggression. In need of a very experienced home.
   Brief circumstances as to why you need to rehome cat/s: Please see above. This cat, who lived with me, was rehomed as she was showing signs of distress, for which the vet could not find a physical cause, and which could not be tamed with Feliway or Zylkene. She appeared to want to be in an outdoor home (my cats are indoor and she was constantly at the windows/trying to run through the front door). She also started attacking the other cats. Since then, I rehomed her with a friend who had a large house, a garden and no other pets. Maddy did well for a while, but is back to showing signs of stress and aggression. She needs a very experienced home, who can provide some stability and routine and attempt to solve her mental health problems.
   Character of the cat, is puss a lap, nervous, timid or an independent soul? What puss likes and dislikes. : Alternates between being a lap cat and a terror. She is affectionate and demanding.
   If more then one cat do they need to be rehomed together or on their own?: N/A.
   Does puss get on well  or been living with children (if so what age range) other cats or dogs?: Has lived with other cats and children, and attacked both of them.
   Is puss an indoor or an outdoor cat?: Prefers to stay indoors - only goes out to do her business.
   Current status of vaccinations? (bare in mind that vaccinations are usually done on a yearly basis, so if they are not up to date and you don’t have any vaccinations records you may wish to state when say  if you are prepared to get them done or not): Up to date. Booster required in January.
    Is he/she neutered? Microchipped?: Neutered and microchipped.

If Maddy were a human, she would probably be undergoing psychiatric treatment. I'm not sure what the alternative is for felines.

She does not seem to like other cats and children appear to be too loud and unsettling for her. She might co-exist with other cats if not in a confined space (e.g. in a flat). For whatever reason, this cat seems too psychologically damaged to remain in her own home. Whether I, being the one who raised her, am to blame, I couldn't say. My other cats are incredibly placid and sweet, so I'm inclined to think this is nature, rather than nurture.

Maddy can remain in her home until the end of January at the absolute latest. After that point, she can come back here if need be, but will need to be separated from the other pets, which means being shut in a room alone. She's an adorable, loving cat underneath it all, but there's a lot of work to do in order to get that side out of her.

I feel like an absolute... <<insert word I probably shouldn't say on a public forum>>, and I sincerely hope people aren't judging either me or them for "giving up on her". That's not the case. We're just not equipped, either through time, facility or experience, to help her. And she does need help.

Please, please, PLEASE, get in contact if there's anything you can do or suggest.

Thank you.
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