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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2010, 19:29:45 PM »
I reckon Mum knows best!  ;D   Hope it does help a bit. It increases the flow of blood to the brain I think. It does come highly recommended. You could always try the Selgian too as they can be taken together as they work differently. Sorry I don't have the FABcats article on dementia that Prof G-M wrote any longer but it should be on their website (maybe?) or you could email them to ask for it if you want. She talks about using them both, that's where I got the selgian name from and started nagging the vet.

Good for Mog, she sounds like she has a lot of good times still despite it all  :hug:

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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2010, 19:13:55 PM »
Mog is asleep on her heated pet bed. :) To be honest, I think it's making a little difference, but my partner says he thinks that's because I want it to and he can't see anything changed. :hug:




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2010, 14:57:25 PM »
With Swampy the vivitonin worked immediately (it made him hyper) but of course he had brain damage. Selgian took longer but was far more effective.

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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2010, 18:28:54 PM »
Sorry, forgot to answer this! The hugs are appreciated.

We started Mog on the vivitonin, but despite looking it up on the internet we can't seem to find how long it takes to have an effect. I noticed the other day how bony my old lady had gotten, I hate noticing things like that. Doesn't bother her though!




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2010, 13:52:08 PM »
I gave Prof Gunn Moores number to my vet about a year and a half ago. Unfortunately, my vets is the only vet in the area that does PDSA so the practice is run off its feet.

She could just be moaning, definitely. But lack of sleep can blur your thought process and it's been a number of years since I've slept properly. She's such a stubborn old thing, love her.

I know exactly what you mean about lack of sleep and how it affects you, and your emotions.  Give Mog a cuddle from me and a hug for you too  :hug:

My "charming" vet only bothered to call Prof G-M on the day I called and said I thought Swampy should be pts as he was manic all night. THEN the b***d did call her, she gave him 1/2 hour (she never charged for) and months later, his brain problem was so much better and he died from kidney complications. I also know how the Busy Vet Syndrome works and you get fobbed off and you're too tired to keep at it
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2010, 10:37:29 AM »
Much appreciated, Janey. I'll pass Mogs on when she's awake.(and yelling at me again!) I really hope it's not because she's unhappy, and just being disorientated. It would be so much easier if she could talk to me.




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2010, 10:03:08 AM »
JS  :hug:  :hug: for you and Mogs xx
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2010, 08:23:34 AM »
Thanks. It's difficult because I love her so much, but a screaming cat can try anyones patience if it seems to be all she does. :(




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2010, 22:30:14 PM »
Can't offer any advice hun ... but am thinking of you both and sending lots and love and hugs to you all xxxx
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2010, 22:22:23 PM »
Hey hun, can't add anything more than lots of  :hug: :hug: :hug: for you and Mog, I just wish I could offer advice or something meaningful xxx

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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2010, 19:25:51 PM »
I gave Prof Gunn Moores number to my vet about a year and a half ago. Unfortunately, my vets is the only vet in the area that does PDSA so the practice is run off its feet.

She could just be moaning, definitely. But lack of sleep can blur your thought process and it's been a number of years since I've slept properly. She's such a stubborn old thing, love her.




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2010, 19:15:26 PM »
Hi, it could be worth a try, at least you've then tried everything. There's not much on the web (or known by ordinary vets) on selgian in cats. It's more often used in dogs. But if you can get your vet to contact Prof Gunn Moore in Edinburgh, she knows a lot and dementia's her specialty (or one of them). The only thing was she wanted Swampy on 1 tab a day and it was too much - vets were surprised - so I gave 3/4. Imho that's a better dose, depends what Mog weighs. Maybe even 1/2 if she's skinny.

Mog could be grumbling because she's old; old people do that too. I'm sure you'll know when she's had enough. People told me I would when I was conflicted and unsure and I'm glad I waited as at the end, I did know.
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2010, 11:27:58 AM »
I just hate that I'm watching her deteriorate, Kate. I feel completely helpless - Mog has shared my life for such a long time (15 years in August; longer than I've been in any relationship!) and she's changed so dramatically since the diagnosis a few years ago. She's always been a bit contrary, which was fine. But I can never decide whether she's unhappy or not and I hate it.

She's had half today and I managed to give her the tablet yesterday. I just don't know what to do. Thanks for the info, will look up selgian.




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2010, 11:13:14 AM »
Hope it went off ok? Swampy was on vivitonin and it made him more hyper so I stopped it (but he had brain damage, not dementia). It was also 1/4 tab and so tiny I was never sure if it got spat out!

Prof Gunn Moore uses Selgian as well for dementia. It's mentioned in her article for FABcats about dementia. He was on that too. It calms down rather than hypes up and it worked very well on him although took at least a month to start working, if not more. More expensive than vivitonin and has to be given in a gelcap (Swampy got 3/4 pill; fitted in a size 4 gelcap) as tastes horrible and makes cats foam. There are no clinical trials in cats, but seems plenty have taken it without side effects. You can stop it without tapering off if you need to. HTH poor Mog and poor you

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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2010, 21:16:48 PM »
I don't know, MM. She's not had the tablet today as it would've meant finding her and prodding her awake to give it to her.




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2010, 19:58:11 PM »
Maybe it got stuck, did it get washed down with water or food? It can take a couple of hours for a dry pilling to reach where it should  :scared:


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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2010, 13:00:16 PM »
She's being an utter crannock, but I'm hoping she'll calm down soon. She's being given RR, vivitonin and we have a feliway diffuser on the go....




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2010, 12:28:51 PM »
Aww bless her, hope she's ok xx
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2010, 21:19:51 PM »
hope things go better in nexr couple of days, one problem may be the sudden heat which affects how body works. :hug:

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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2010, 19:19:00 PM »
Am going to give her a couple more days on it and if her body keeps reacting that way I'll stop - she was fine yesterday.




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2010, 18:25:50 PM »
Aww, bless her
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2010, 10:48:49 AM »
OK, started Mog on the vivitonin. She was REALLY vocal after it this morning and brought up some frothy watery sick. Not a good start, really.




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2010, 15:44:28 PM »
I get terrified about side effects, especially in older cats. But I suppose you're right - and it isn't too costly either. Works out at around £4.50 a month.




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2010, 15:27:56 PM »
i would give it a try js, nothing to lose but loads to gain if you can get some relief  :hug:

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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2010, 10:19:38 AM »
Vivitonin came up with Aktivait when I googled. Am seriously considering it - Mog is being REALLY appalling this morning.




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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2010, 08:26:31 AM »
Glad to hear that she doesn't need BP meds. I dont think that price is overly high, I paid £15.70 just for a checkup for Sam on Fri. I haven't heard of vivitonin, but it might be worth a try?
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 10:57:40 AM »
Good news is she doesn't have high blood pressure, but that could be the bad news too I guess. Because then the yowling would likely lessen if treated.

I'm not sure how how much a BP test usually is. I got charged £25, and the vet mentioned vivitonin for Mogs dementia. He said they've had a lot of success with it for dogs and a few people have asked to try their cats on it (on a low dosage) with varying degrees of success. Anyone had any experience of this?

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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2010, 09:20:42 AM »
Good luck today - hopefully they can help with the yowling - I empathise  :shify:
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2010, 09:17:03 AM »
Best of luck for today xx
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 09:00:34 AM »
I hope it goes well. When Mogs used to go they started to bring the vet nurses out to hold her as she just sat with her leg stuck out so they got their been there dont that star without any hassle  :evillaugh:
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 08:55:52 AM »
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 07:50:36 AM »
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 07:22:09 AM »
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Re: Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 01:35:44 AM »
I hope everything goes well...............I dont see why you should be charrged more if she is scared of vets  :hug: :hug:

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Mog is going for the BP test tomorrow....
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2010, 22:50:31 PM »
Wish us luck. ;) I'm told I'll get charged more if she's an "awkward patient...."




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