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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #104 on: November 22, 2007, 18:40:23 PM »
ah Gillian, how frustrating for you, all for a piece of paper and you could have had her at home with you. all fingers and toes crossed here...

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #103 on: November 22, 2007, 18:34:54 PM »
I just want to bring her home, now I've got to wait till tomorrow.

So frustrating.  Keep positive (she will be having a nice doze now, Im sure).
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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #102 on: November 22, 2007, 18:33:40 PM »
arrrr thats a shame, how was she?
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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #101 on: November 22, 2007, 18:19:20 PM »
Well the results havent come through yet  :( So i've just been in to see her again and she came to the front of the cage to greet me and and I gave her lots of strokes - I just want to bring her home, now I've got to wait till tomorrow.

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #100 on: November 22, 2007, 15:02:24 PM »
I am sure she will be happier at home and lets hope the bloods show that to be the problem   :hug:

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2007, 15:00:00 PM »
Oh Gillian that's great news! ;D I'm so pleased for both of you ;) I'll keep everything crossed for the bloods, and hope she is home again soon :hug:

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #98 on: November 22, 2007, 14:04:50 PM »
Great news Gillian. Hopefully she will be back ruling the roost later today  :Luv:
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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #97 on: November 22, 2007, 13:59:28 PM »
Thats wonderful news Gillian, Im sure that little Gwyn will make a better recovery at home with those who love her.  So glad that thimgs are looking more positive.

Fingers, toes and everything else crossed that she is soon on the mend and that the vets can find out what caused her problem.
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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #96 on: November 22, 2007, 13:48:33 PM »
I hope she comes home todat, feeling better. :hug:

Its been a worring week for few of us.

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #95 on: November 22, 2007, 13:32:18 PM »
Did the vet say when he thought she would be able to go home?  Or does that depend on the results of the blood tests?

I think she might be able to come home today sometime - vet said she'd keep her there until they've got the full blood profile tests (which will show if the calc/phos thing is wrong) and we should get those today fingers crossed.

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #94 on: November 22, 2007, 13:20:49 PM »
rooting for good news and a speedy recovery here too  :hug:

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #93 on: November 22, 2007, 11:37:41 AM »
So much was going on while I was offline!!  Perhaps it was a good thing I came back to the news of a possible sign of things looking up this morning. ;D  I would have been crying for Gwynnie last night!! :(
I really hope things will only get better from here... this waiiiiiting for the result must be eating you alive Gillian, as it does to all of us rooting for the lil un.  Keep your chin up and don't give up the positive thinking!!  If nothing else I will WILL Gwyn to get better soon!! ;)

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #92 on: November 22, 2007, 11:33:53 AM »
That sounds a bit more promising.  I'm glad you've seen her and she seems better and in good spirits!  ;D  Did the vet say when he thought she would be able to go home?  Or does that depend on the results of the blood tests?

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #91 on: November 22, 2007, 11:29:04 AM »
Gillian you are in my thoughts I hope things are sorted out quickly and little Gwyn comes home soon

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #90 on: November 22, 2007, 11:25:37 AM »
I really hope that this could be the start of good things  :hug:

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #89 on: November 22, 2007, 11:25:08 AM »
I'm really pleased the news looks as if it's going to be more positive today, sending you big  :hug: , xxx

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #88 on: November 22, 2007, 11:18:24 AM »
Brilliant news Gillian  ;D

So glad that you feel more positive today and you have seen your little girl.

Still got everything crossed for you  :care:

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #87 on: November 22, 2007, 11:12:37 AM »
I think it might be better news today. After speaking to that breeder last night I printed off the letter on the kitten food alert thread and took it into the vets this morning. I saw Gwyn and gave her a great big cuddle and she was so pleased to see me - she looked fine and she was all cuddled up on one of my fleeces I took down with her yesterday, with a heatpad underneath it. When the vet put her down on the floor she was actually using her legs a little bit better.

So I showed my vet the letter but really we've got to wait till the blood tests come back (hope today!) which will show if calcium and phos ratios are out of balance. I thought we'd be getting the FIP test back soon too - but my vet just told me it can take a couple of weeks. I know I shouldnt be getting my hopes up - but I can't help feeling much more positive than yesterday.

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #86 on: November 22, 2007, 09:31:44 AM »
I was hoping to find better news Gillian, I'm keeping everything crossed for you and little Gwyn

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #85 on: November 22, 2007, 08:48:04 AM »
Keeping everything crossed for some positive news for you today Gillian  :hug: :hug:

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #84 on: November 22, 2007, 08:38:37 AM »
So sorry there's not more positivie news for you yet Gillian, keeping all things crossed for you both.  :hug:
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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #83 on: November 22, 2007, 08:27:41 AM »
I have everything crossed Gillian, and really hope it isn't FIP, it is a nasty illness, it is something that can be connected with catteries though, so might depend on what the breeders set up is as to whether it is an option.
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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2007, 08:21:49 AM »
I hope you get some better news today, Gillian, and that Gwyn show some improvement.  The end of the week is going to feel like forever if you have to wait til then for test results.

I'm sending more get well vibes for Gwyn and some more  :hug: for you.  Nothing more stressful than having a poorly pet at the vets and not knowing what the problem is :(

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2007, 23:20:04 PM »
I dont think this will help but Lynn has givem Diane Addies site below.

However at the cat show in Birminghame I was given a magazine called Fancy That!  which seems to be aimed at pedigree owners and breeders, its a new magazine and this is the trial edition.....sorry rambling.

They have the first of series of articles by Diane Addie and its called what is FIP?

Briefly it says it comes from FCov infection which I think Milly referred to.

FCov is a temp infection in majority of cats with no problems
Can be Permanent Infection but Cat will be jhealthy
FIP  can affect 5-10%  FCov infected cats

Then divides FIP into Wet and Dry

Clinical signs of WET

Swollen Tummy
Breathing probs, rapid breating or by mouth
Cat not eating, although some eat normally
Apparent weight loss, bones sticking out, although die to fluid cat may weigh more
Temp when taken but apparently some cats like to sit on owner to dhare body het
Decreased activity if cat normally active

Clinical signs of DRY

Cat not eating as well as normal
Cat loses weight gradually
Temp as for WET above
Less active and depressed
Iritis or Uveitis - this appears as brownish or reddish discoloration of the eye usually or can appear as a misty appearance of the front of the eye. In one case she saw blue eyes turn green.
Jaundice.....Nose or gums look yellow or pale
Neuro signs - can be any or all of the folowing:
fits or seizures loss of balance tremopr eyes darting from sode to side
personality chang
paralysis.

What is very interesting not from Gillians point of view but maybe from Dawns and Lesleys and maybe Teresas is:

Are your kittens infected wit FCov? This is highly contagious.

Signs are:

diarrheoa in kittens usually 5-7 weeks
litters of kittens in uneven sizes
one kitten developing FIP

Diane Addies site is www.catvirus.com

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new website but there is also going to be two ebooks on FCov and FIP for breeders and rescuers available soon.

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2007, 23:10:15 PM »
I hope Gwyns problem is identified and found to be treatable really soon. Poor little girl.




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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2007, 22:49:49 PM »
gillian i found this on toxoplasmosis signs -- i dont think it fits in at all although it says could affect eyes and CNS i am sure she would not have been free from any of the other illness signs.

No it doesnt fit at all - the ONLY sign to me of something wrong was not being able to use her back legs - in all other respects she was fine, she was eating well, still trying to play (with her front paws!) even though her back legs were lying useless. I picked her up onto my bed last night and she was trying to catch my hand moving under the duvet in the same playful way she did every other night.

Don't want ot interupt helpful comments but really want you to know Gillian that I'm certainly rooting for the lovely Gwyn here too. Really feel for you  :hug:

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2007, 22:00:13 PM »
Don't want ot interupt helpful comments but really want you to know Gillian that I'm certainly rooting for the lovely Gwyn here too. Really feel for you  :hug:

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2007, 20:52:12 PM »
gillian i found this on toxoplasmosis signs -- i dont think it fits in at all although it says could affect eyes and CNS i am sure she would not have been free from any of the other illness signs.

Signs
Most cats show no clinical signs of infection with Toxoplasma. Occasionally, however, clinical disease—toxoplasmosis—occurs, kittens and young adult cats being more often affected than older animals. Lethargy, depression, loss of appetite, and fever are typical early nonspecific signs. Pneumonia, manifested by respiratory distress of gradually increasing severity, is the outstanding sign in many cats. Hepatitis (inflammation of the liver) may cause vomiting, diarrhea, prostration, and jaundice (yellowing of the mucous membranes). Inflammation of the pancreas and enlargement of lymph nodes also occur. Toxoplasmosis can also affect the eyes and central nervous system, producing inflammation of the retina or anterior ocular chamber, abnormal pupil size and responsiveness to light, blindness, incoordination, heightened sensitivity to touch, personality changes, circling, head pressing, twitching of the ears, difficulty in chewing and swallowing food, seizures, and loss of control over urination and defecation.

In some cases, coinfection with feline leukemia virus (FeLV) or feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV
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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2007, 20:45:17 PM »
yeah the felv vacc doesnt cause any subsequent tests to show up as positive.

As far as i know this is why we are not using the fiv vaccine over here because it make the test show positive.

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2007, 20:39:58 PM »
I really hope and wish that little Gwyn gets better soon, take care of yourself Gillian xxx
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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #74 on: November 21, 2007, 20:28:20 PM »
Have they ruled out anything like poisoning? Sorry, don't remember if they are indoor cats. Mind you I suppose there may also be something around the house?

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2007, 20:04:09 PM »
Was hoping to log on and find good news, got everything crossed for little Gwyn.  What a an awful, worrying time this must be for you  :hug:

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« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2007, 19:58:35 PM »
:hug: Hoping they can rule out things and it will all be OK for her  :hug:

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2007, 19:56:26 PM »
 :hug: Hoping they can rule out things and it will all be OK for her  :hug:
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« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2007, 19:49:05 PM »
Im really hoping she pulls through whatever this is Gillian  :hug: :hug:

Me too - i just want to bring her home.

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« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2007, 19:47:48 PM »
I thought the test for Felv/Fiv could be affected by the vaccination and if they have been vaccinated it comes back possitive??

Coming from a reputable breeder and you and all your Persians, surely this cant be FIP?
So much thinking about you  :hug:

 :thanks: thank you Gill, I can't believe this is happening. Yes i think your right about felv fiv vacs and positives. As for FIP I don't know,  i think the virus that causes it is a common one in many cats, especially - multicat households, without causing any problems.

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« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2007, 19:45:16 PM »
Gill, the FIV vaccine (not available in the UK luckily) gives a 'positive' result but the FeLV jab doesnt  ;D

FIP can affect the best of breeders as its a unique reaction in each cat when it comes across the corona virus which i think 90% of cats have. A kitten can get fcov from contact with its mothers faeces and from then on its an individual response.
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Most cats simply become infected, shed FCoV for a month or two, mount an immune response, eliminate the virus and live happily ever after. However, for reasons that we don't yet fully understand, instead of clearing FCoV infection, an unfortunate few cats develop FIP. 

Im really hoping she pulls through whatever this is Gillian  :hug: :hug:


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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2007, 19:32:22 PM »
I am sure that Lynn will know the answer to this as I cant remember but, I thought the test for Felv/Fiv could be affected by the vaccination and if they have been vaccinated it comes back possitive??

Coming from a reputable breeder and you and all your Persians, surely this cant be FIP?

So much thinking about you  :hug:

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Re: Gwyn's back legs arent working properly
« Reply #66 on: November 21, 2007, 19:28:18 PM »
So sorry, hope they can find problem & sort her out.  :hug:

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« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2007, 19:27:02 PM »
I presumed you bought gwyn gillian and obviously you must alert the breeder

How old is she now exactly ? (i know a kitten but not sure of weeks or months)

depending on the diagnosis/prognosis/treatments etc you may have grounds to recupe all money back from the breeder,

I'd have expected all cats at the breeders to have been tested and be vaccinated for fiv/felv
big  :hug: for you and little gwynnie just now  :hug:

I got Gwyn from a breeder in Cornwall, her and her husband have been breeding colourpoints for 20 yrs, they are well known and respected - whilst I didnt actually see Gwyn in her breeder's home - Gwyn's sister Jade went to a another breeder who DID see the kittens at the breeder's home and in fact has known the breeder for 10yrs - and we've been in touch on the phone and I've visited the other breeders house (to collected Gwyn - as she picked both ktitens up from Cornwall).

As to getting money back from the breeder - well I havent actually paid the full amount for her yet! - the breeders were really lovely because after i'd said I'd have her, I had all the vet bills with Jasper and Suzie, and they were quite happy for me to take her and pay for her as and when I could. So I've actually only paid half for her so far!

Gwyn is 5 months old now, and I got her when she was 13 weeks - so she's been with me about 2 months. She'd had all her jabs - the 4 way Fevaxyn. I also think Felv/Fiv are unlikely. I've phoned the breeders and they are shocked as they've never come across anything like this before. I don't know anything about toxo in cats either, but I think the lesions the vet was referring to in the eye he thought were another pointer for FIP rather than toxo, but I may have got that wrong - not really taking it all in.

 


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