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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #88 on: December 11, 2006, 19:30:28 PM »
Oh Des our thoughts are with you at this sad time I had hoped you and pebbles would have better news.

Another Bridge baby joining this years members, now free from pain and whole again, but always a pawprint in your heart.

Again deepest sympathies to you and your furry family, its always the hardest decision we make and I don't know how you do it nearly broke me with  Holly and then she departed before we could take her.

She was and always will be your Pebbles and a very special lady with cattitude :(
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #87 on: December 11, 2006, 19:28:32 PM »
Desley, I'm so sorry for you.  You gave her every chance but when the time came you have done the kindest and bravest thing for her.  Please remember that we are all here for you, you must be feeling very sad.

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #86 on: December 11, 2006, 19:25:56 PM »
Thanks Teresa, it will be hard for a while, but I will be able to look at her pics and smile soon, and I dont think many people would have given her so many chances. Receptionist asked me how I could keep putting myself through it - I am sat typing this watching Molly (14) have a mad 5 minutes chasing her tail and rolling over the bed - she could have been dead if I hadn't taken her, and things like that remind me why I do it, and why the heartache is worth it.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #85 on: December 11, 2006, 19:21:31 PM »
Aww Desley Im so sorry its ended this way but from you've said it was the only option. You gave Pebbles loads of love and Im sure she is now at peace and no longer in pain.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #84 on: December 11, 2006, 19:18:44 PM »
Pebbles what a lucky girl you were to have had Desley to love and care for you so  much.
Desley try to take comfort that you loved Pebbles enough to put her needs before your own, her suffering is over now.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #83 on: December 11, 2006, 19:07:30 PM »
Thanks everyone - I have had to let her go. She was even more dehydrated, her tummy felt worse, her bladder was feeling odd, so the vet suspected that this has brought on cystitis on top of everything else (she did have it last year), her chest was wheezy and she was clearly miserable - she didn't bite the vet. We had a very long conversation as to what to do with her next, the vet did say that with all the tests she has had in the past 2 years with no indication, it could indicate tumours. I could have had her referred to a specialist, and done loads of x-rays, scans etc, but I didn't think that was fair on her. We could have tried steroids, but the vet couldn't guarantee that they would do anything or if they did, for how long, and I didn't want to put her through anymore unless there were guarantees - and not just for this, but that this would be the final thing. The vet said that in light of how hard to treat PEbbles was (I got to read the notes from the e-vet - barely diagnosable without a sedation, cos I wasn't there) that she felt this was the best option, she had been miserable for too long, and the struggle with her legs was cos she was weak. RIP little one.
Out of the 6 cats I had here at the beginning of the year, only 3 are still alive, and only one is still with me, the other two are in new homes now, and Pebbles was the 7th cat I have lost in 4 years. It is getting harder and harder with each one as well.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #82 on: December 11, 2006, 18:25:23 PM »
Des i am dreading ya coming back from Vets. I am wishing but have an awful feeling.  :'(

If there is nothing more they can do, you will be helping her out of the awful pain she is in. I am sooo hoping for a mircle.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #81 on: December 11, 2006, 16:47:10 PM »
Paws crossed for you both.........sounds like a terrible time for you
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #80 on: December 11, 2006, 16:39:05 PM »
My thoughts are with you both Des

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #79 on: December 11, 2006, 16:21:22 PM »
Des my heart goes out to you and Darlin Pebbles. She sounds in alot of pain. :'(  I know you will do everything possible for her and the best for her.
Sooooo Hoping the vets can come up with a mircle tonight.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #78 on: December 11, 2006, 15:01:32 PM »
Thinking of you and Pebbles.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #77 on: December 11, 2006, 14:56:26 PM »
Thanks Roz, will try and remember that.
Liz - we did a/d last week, and like most things since this started, she wolfed the first half, and point blank refused the rest. I dont mind the smell of a/d, although liquivite is awful.
To be honest, unless the vet can miraculously think of something, I can't see her coming home with me tonight, this has been going on for just over a week now, despite having various meds, and I can't see her like this anymore, it is no life for her - like this morning, she showed an interest when I picked the biscuit tin up, but then just looked at the full bowl of them. As soon as I put some on her bed next to her paw, she wolfed them. That to me is no life for her, she knows they are there, and obviously is hungry, but no energy or whatever to get up to get them - and they werent more than a finger length from her head. She has barely eaten overnight the past two nights, and I suspect that is the reason why - but last night, she had obviously moved to go to the loo, but ignored them.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #76 on: December 11, 2006, 14:41:15 PM »
Thinking of you and Pebbles tonight. Hope it goes ok
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #75 on: December 11, 2006, 13:31:47 PM »
Thinking of you tonight with Pebbles, hope the vet can shed some light on your baby, I would try the ad liquid as if can be left down and it kept Holly going and it does smell awful - Holly like it heated for 10 secs in the microwave and could lap it up.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #74 on: December 11, 2006, 12:05:10 PM »
Hi Des,

You said you could hear Pebbles' breathing over the sound of your shower.  This suggests to me that she is having problems with breathing which could be because of complications in her chest.  I know you said that they checked this area but the vets consistently examined one of my cats several years ago for two weeks and it was only on my insistence that she be admitted to hospital for further examination that they found she had got pyothorax... and was given a very slim chance of lasting the day!  Bless her, after having some of the fluid syringed from her chest (without an anaesthetic because she was too weak), she rallied and the chest drains were fitted the next day.  She was discharged within a week but had to have check ups and medication for another two months!  This was the cat who frequented the bathroom. She also displayed very similar symptoms to those you describe for Pebbles....but then again they might be similar for any cat who is feeling very, very unwell.

I just hope the vet can diagnose the problem and that it is treatable.

Poor little love.

Good luck to you both tonight

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #73 on: December 11, 2006, 10:55:40 AM »
I couldn't hand feed her for any length of time - I work full time, and to me, it wouldn't be fair on her as she will have to go too long in between meals - even if I came home every lunch time. I don't think this has anything at all to do with Shadow - Shadow has been here for 7 weeks now, and is only out of her room in the evening, how long varies on what I have on that day, but they do have the day and nighttime without her round. If the vet is right about pancreatitis, it does make them feel miserable and it is painful, and I think that is what we are seeing now. PEbbles does get plenty of time from me, and did even before this as her and Molly were the only two that were in my bedroom, so night and computer time are theirs.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2006, 10:38:44 AM »
For the last 3 to 4 years of Kockas life I had to hand feed her ad diet and that was her basic food until she died last year. She would also eat Hi-life Turkey and giblets pate and lick the jelly or gavey from pouches.

I reckoned if I could get nearly a tin of ad into her everyday I was doing well, she was still quite active up until we moved, except the last 3 months of the old place where we were both so stressed. When we went to Devon on the last Christmas she used to sleep 80% of time but was like a new cat  going out on a harness and lead outside the farm house for two weeks. All was fine till we returned home for another month waiting to move. She went bakwards again in 24 hrs.

Basically the situation killed her and nearly me.

I think it really depends how Pebbles and you react to things. She is obviously very down and my own thoughts, which may be totally wrong is that she is unhappy about Shadow being there and just wants more time from you. I would hand feed her ad diet all the time, I used to keep it in the fridge and Kocka would just lick it off my finger but if it was too cold i would just swish my finger in it to warm it for her in the winter. I used to buy a tray at a time from the vets.

I hated the smell of it but its what kept Kocka alive for so long and it got good quality of food into her. She just about maintained her body weight but she was very thin after having thyroid removed. She was a fighter and loved to go outside in the garden.

I wish you all the best for Pebbles, I knew that Kocka wanted to live and she was so determined to right up to the end.

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #71 on: December 11, 2006, 07:45:18 AM »
I wish it was her nose Helen!! Nto sure if she has had steroids Becca, I honestly couldn't tell you what any of the three jabs she has had this week are!!
A very mixed morning - she hadn't touched most of her supper (although I gave her some treats before bed), but she had used the tray. Then I put her food in front of her and she seemed perky and showed an interest - but it lasted for all of two mouthfuls, then, after sitting pondering, she turned round and laid down. I had my shower, and could hear her breathing over that, have got more food into her, but only cos I have been rather persistant, it still isn't even half the half pouch though. Rightly or wrongly, I am going to stick with her app this evening, rather than try and make it earlier, I haven't had a good feeling about this since the vets suspected diagnosis, but now it has been a week of this, I just need a few more hours to get my head sorted - luckily my bosses are out this morning, so might be able to do some frantic googling in case there was something I missed in the 10 articles I read last week.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #70 on: December 11, 2006, 07:15:05 AM »
sending thoughts your way this morning Des.  Hope Pebbles is feeling brighter

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #69 on: December 10, 2006, 22:08:42 PM »
Oh poor Pebbles, I didn't know she was poorly - I thought this thread was about her nose condition.

I really hope she perks up soon, I know how worrying it is when they don't eat and to see a cat miserable is heartbreaking.  I have soul searched a few times with Tiggy but I am lucky in the she has turned the corner each time.  Will be thinking of you both.


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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #68 on: December 10, 2006, 21:56:30 PM »
Poor lass, Des - has she responded to steroids at all with this problem?

I'm wondering if she's either experiencing some metabolic problem or whether it could be something neurological... I know bog all about feline or indeed human brains but maybe if something's not quite right it could stop her from feeling hungry?
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #67 on: December 10, 2006, 21:49:29 PM »
just gone and sat with her again, and had a 'talk' with her, and she has eaten some more, but only when I have hand fed her, or taken things out of bowls and put on the bed, and she can't possibly eat enough to sustain her that way, with me working full time, and she obviously isn't feeling right if she wont get out of bed to eat.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #66 on: December 10, 2006, 18:41:27 PM »
I have no idea with her anymore - she is eating, but not really good enough - she has only eaten some of her tea cos I keep coaxing her, if you get her eating biscuits and put the bowl back on the floor out of hte bed, she puts her head back down to go back to sleep. And it normally takes 3 goes for her to decide to bother with what you are putting in front of her. No sign of anything much in teh litter tray - have sent Shadow out of there twice though, so the wee in there could be from her!! Am going to go and have a bath now, hopefully that will help her. I dont think there is much point ringing the e-vets, I can't remember most of what the vet has given her - and the tests they did a month ago showed nothing. The anti-inflammatories she is on are Metacam, she has already had her two drops for today, and it is something I wont ever give more of. If she is no better in the morning, I might ring in and take her, but we do have an app for 5.30 tomorrow anyway. I really can't see what quality of life she has at the moment, hopefully the vets can say otherwise.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #65 on: December 10, 2006, 18:30:12 PM »
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #64 on: December 10, 2006, 17:31:41 PM »
Oh poor little poppet.  I wonder what is going on there.  She still is eating a little though isn't she?  Did she manage anything in the litter tray last night?

I would just try to make her as comfy as poss ible and leave her to rest....and take her to the vet tomorrow, as early as possible if you think she is suffering and in pain.  I don't suppose there is any point in finding an emergency vet tonight is there? It might be an idea to ring one up and mention about the strange eating behaviour...maybe there is some reflux  going on in her oesophagus.

Have you got any more anti-inflammatories..or any of Tom's Metacam about?  I just wonder whether it would be worthwhile giving her a drop or two (but don't know how that might affect her if she has got pancreatitis?) if no more painkillers left.

Such a worry Des.  Will keep everything crossed this end for the little sugarplum.

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #63 on: December 10, 2006, 17:24:31 PM »
I know - it is typical Pebbles though, that we have a good moment, and then back to not good. She has cleaned herself more than I have seen in the past week, but still biting me for trying to pick her up, and her third eyelids are a bit up - couldn't check for dehydration though cos she was still trying to bite me!! The vet can only think of pancreatitis seeing as bloods done a month ago when she had diarrhea were clear. All 3 vets that she has seen in the past 5 weeks have mentioned the possibility of tumours though - nothing showed up in the x-ray, but the vet said on Thurs that it doesn't mean there aren't any, they could just be too small. It would make sense with the diarrhea, and then this just short of a month after, neither have had a reason such as change in food, temp etc. She still has occasional body twitches too, so unless it all magically goes overnight, she will be there at 5.30 tomorrow. I hope that the vet will agree to more blood tests in case there is something else. Off to put the kettle on now to add hot water to her tea!!
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #62 on: December 10, 2006, 17:08:27 PM »
Oh Des Bless her. I hoped she would pick up yestereday.  :'(
The vets have no idea whats aling her?? Will ya take her to them tomorrow?

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #61 on: December 10, 2006, 16:17:19 PM »
She is now biting when you touch her belly or her back leg, and not just a warning nip either. She has had her meds for today as well. I have just groomed her cos her fur wasn't separating and looking dull, it still doens't feel silky like normal though, and I am now wondering if there is something wrong with her teeth as she keeps eating odd, like she is shaking her head - with bits of food flying. When she does it with her biscuits though, she ends up dropping half biscuits and not bothering to find the other half.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #60 on: December 10, 2006, 11:04:03 AM »
Breakfast was a bit of a struggle again, and she hadn't eaten much of her dry food overnight. She was more perky after the anti-inflams though, and just popped in to see her, and she is enjoying fusses more, but wont leave the bathroom to come and get more. Still not convinced that I am doing the right thing by trying to get her through this though, this started days short of a month after coming back from the emergency vets, and I dont want her to keep on having to go through this, esp not as she could be worse if this happens again.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2006, 10:51:51 AM »
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #58 on: December 09, 2006, 22:23:53 PM »
I thought so too Roz - I gave them some supper a short while ago, and have heard eating noises from next door twice, but sadly it was Shadow wanting 'big girl' food!! We have had lovely cuddles tonight (although you can feel a bumpy spine with very little pressure, and her shoulders are still prominent, must get the vet to re-weigh her), but the fact that she has little interest in coming out of the bathroom isn't good, and she hasn't used the tray today, fingers crossed she will use it overnight though. She still has occasional body twitches, but wont be able to find out about those till Mon. She will be lovely and warm, as she is in front of the radiator.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #57 on: December 09, 2006, 22:15:46 PM »
Oh Des, I'm so sad to read that Pebbles is not feeling any better.  I thought after reading your post earlier today that she was perhaps turning the corner. 

I will be thinking of her and praying for her tonight.

Try to get some rest....just help her to feel warm and comfy wherever she feels that she wants to be and let Nature take care of her. Provided she has drinking water close by and a litter tray and lots of warmth and quiet, she should settle down reasonably happily for tonight....

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #56 on: December 09, 2006, 20:23:25 PM »
Would be nice - just a shame I have all 4 in different rooms!! Have had a real battle with her tea, she was on the stairs when I came home (late - oops!!), so I thought 'oh good' - she then struggled to get up the stairs, ended up lying in her bed cos her leg gave up, then wouldnt eat, so I left her in their while I fed Molly. She followed me in, sat watching Molly eat, so I got her food, and she wouldn't touch it, after two attempts (with her moving away in between), she wandered back into the bathroom, so I followed her back, and she would only eat when I then put it in her bed. But then she laid down when she had had enough and her tail ended up in her food - again. I think I am going to ask the vets to do bloods on Mon, unless there is a miraculous improvement (although her meds have finished now - she hardly got any antibiotics, which we knew was a possibility, I just thought that tabs would be easier than a paste), and if they show anything bad, and she is still not right, then I dont think it is fair to keep her going. I dont think it is fair now, she has been like this for nearly a week, with very little relief from the 6 days worth of meds - it is heartbreaking to watch her walking at hte moment, her remaining back leg doesn't seem very strong at the moment. And if the vet is right, she could end up with another bout of this in the future, but it could get worse, and she could already have had this for a while.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #55 on: December 09, 2006, 17:40:53 PM »
Desley, how is Pebbles this afternoon?

I really hope you are feeling more cheerful yourself too - sounds like you're down in the dumps, to say the least. My recipe is a spot of self-indulgence, whatever works best for you.

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #54 on: December 09, 2006, 16:02:43 PM »
Des Great she has eaten this morning. Sending lots and lots of hugs and love for you all.  :hug: :hug: :hug:  :Luv: :blow kiss:

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #53 on: December 09, 2006, 12:42:18 PM »
Des I think you need to chill spend quality time with the furkids and just shut out the rest of the world for the weekend.

I feel a takeaway and a bottle of wine, maybe the order for  you and lots of treats for the cats!  We are planning on that this weekend and we have to pick up the takeaway as we are to far out for delivery!!!
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #52 on: December 09, 2006, 10:30:02 AM »
Thanks Teresa - I need to try, but have had such a bad week it has been unbelievable!! Last night was actually the best out of the lot!! Hopefully going to teh rescue and seeing nice cute kittens will help, and I need to ignore the majority of the housework and try and have a rest, I am just incredibly tired with everything this week - and last week wasn't a good week either!!
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #51 on: December 09, 2006, 10:20:46 AM »
Just caught up with this and so sorry to hear that Pebbles is having a rough time but Desley I really think you need to try to cheer yourself up the last thing Pebbles wants is to see her mum so worried and unhappy.
Sending you both happy positive healing vibes.

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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #50 on: December 09, 2006, 10:09:39 AM »
No, I can imagine.

Will see you later hopefully. Thanks, me too - this is the 5th thing wrong this year alone, I dont know how much fight either of us have left.
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Re: Another vet visit for Pebbles
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2006, 09:57:34 AM »
Yes I have - thank you  :Luv:   Just didn't expect it to have such an effect after only 2 treatments so its hit me quite hard.

I'll be at the rescue at similar time to you - really do hope Pebs will pull thru this one x
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