Thanks JS, I dont think I am being fair on her buying her time now, as that is all I am doing, I have just popped down to sort something out, she miaowed at me and wandered into the kitchen after me for food, but still had some tea down, and didn't tuck into it, and I can't see her continue to be miserable. At least I know now I have given her every chance, and as the vet says, it seems like she doesn't want us to medicate her, and without her co-operation, it isn't fair to leave her unhappy and in pain, I love her too much for that, and however hard it is, I have to do what is best for her, not for me. Thanks, I suppose I am really - she would have been pts 15 months ago if they hadn't been able to find someone to take her, so at least she has had that time, and known love and affection that I think she missed out on, and we have tried so many things for her.