Topic: Meet Coco and Chanel (Read 22469 times)

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #363 on:** March 31, 2019, 18:36:39 PM »

Window person is coming on Wed to measure up and see what options there are for them to get fresh air, and came across this, could be a good alternative

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/323447082070

Judecat (Paula) · « **Reply #362 on:** March 27, 2019, 19:15:33 PM »

What an utter PITA. Sorry Desley.

Sue P (Paddysmum) · « **Reply #361 on:** March 27, 2019, 17:26:56 PM »

Oh Desley, I suspected they might veto it too, but am so sorry they did. It was a cracking idea.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #360 on:** March 27, 2019, 13:09:07 PM »

Council came back and said that it would require planning permission so neighbour rang them, and due to the fact I live on a back to back street, nothing would be acceptable. She spoke to someone different who knew the case as it was the talk of the office!! Builder now speaking to his window supplier to see if there is some way of adjusting the opening so we could have mesh on the inside so they can get extra fresh air. Builder is also going to try and salvage the shelves in the catio and put them inside the house – the two small ones at the side of the window for sunbathing, and the larger ones near the den to give Chanel extra levels to jump on when playing.

Lyn (Slugsta) · « **Reply #359 on:** March 26, 2019, 10:05:38 AM »

Such a hard decision Delsey

Misa · « **Reply #358 on:** March 25, 2019, 17:40:46 PM »

POOR COCO

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #357 on:** March 25, 2019, 13:04:12 PM »

I checked it again yesterday with my neighbour and we are sure we aren’t in the conservation area, but checking the planning portal for windows, a new bay window requires permission, so guessing this would too. So dilemma is to go for pre-planning at £101 in case they refuse, but if they agree, will then have to go for planning at £202. Each stage should take up to 8 weeks, so there is an extra time element involved too. Coco upset me yesterday, she actually asked to go outside, it’s the first time I’ve heard her miaow.

Sue P (Paddysmum) · « **Reply #356 on:** March 24, 2019, 20:15:13 PM »

Quote from: Judecat (Paula) on March 24, 2019, 15:45:53 PM

Plans are very easy to misinterpret. I hope it isn't a conservation area for the girls sake.

Same here. So disappointing after all your efforts.

Judecat (Paula) · « **Reply #355 on:** March 24, 2019, 15:45:53 PM »

Plans are very easy to misinterpret.

I hope it isn't a conservation area for the girls sake.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #354 on:** March 24, 2019, 08:59:13 AM »

Thanks Tab - I will double check the plan I found on the council website this week, I thought the factory was included but these 5 streets weren't, but maybe I misinterpreted it.

tab · « **Reply #353 on:** March 23, 2019, 16:19:42 PM »

It's a shame about the catio but thinking about it you may well be in the heritage area. I know barehill is as the houses are of historical interest as they were built by the co-op and are interlocked so going down the row you get front room of one then kitchen of next etc. There are rules on what can be done externally so that could be the problem.

I hope they all continue to relax and get along more

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #352 on:** March 23, 2019, 15:35:56 PM »

Well, second attempt at Plan B didn't go too well, when I went to give them their supper I didn't shut the door fully, Chanel ran to it, and Lucy was on the landing and growled at them, both girls jumped! I woke up 5.30 and thought I'd check on them, they were both huddled on the brown scratching post, Coco was very hissy and growly at me, so I shut the door and at breakfast time she was slightly better with me, so not sure they are ready yet.

Judecat (Paula) · « **Reply #351 on:** March 23, 2019, 13:47:52 PM »

Good luck, both with Plan B and the council.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #350 on:** March 22, 2019, 09:11:47 AM »

Looking at the dimensions, I'm not sure they would be able to sit up in it, but it would give them something. I am going to speak to the council, definitely don't want to end up in this position again. Am going to try plan B again tonight, the rainbow cord stopped the door shutting when I came in to give them their breakfast, and Chanel went to investigate so she clearly has got over last week

Misa · « **Reply #349 on:** March 22, 2019, 02:07:43 AM »

HOPE IT WOULD WORK BUT BEST TO CHECK WITH COUNCIL FIRST

Lyn (Slugsta) · « **Reply #348 on:** March 21, 2019, 20:17:46 PM »

That looks great Desley! I wouldn't think you should need planning permission - but I wouldn't have thought you would need it for the catio and I was clearly wrong on that score!

Judecat (Paula) · « **Reply #347 on:** March 21, 2019, 19:04:04 PM »

I think that looks like a workable solution Desley, if it doesn't need planning, obviously check with the Planning Dept first, it may not be as big but would still give them an outside space.

Good find!

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #346 on:** March 21, 2019, 13:06:37 PM »

A friend has found this for me, think this could be a good solution – as it installs from the window, not sure if I would need permission or not? Obviously not as big as they have, but better than nothing.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264220355880?ul_noapp=true

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #345 on:** March 19, 2019, 13:25:33 PM »

That is a good way of describing it! My vet was surprised that Lucy can use teeth and claws to let me know she isn’t happy, but without breaking the skin, can’t remember what term she used, something about a threshold though. I’m definitely considering it, part of me thinks trying again but slower may work, but part of me wonders if they really want it at the moment. Was very naughty last night, Lucy was sleeping just outside their door while I was in with them, so I pushed her in as I was leaving – Chanel was on the floor near the cupboard, Coco was on the windowsill. Lucy hissed at Chanel, but neither of the girls reacted, I ushered Lucy back out, and she wasn’t worked up enough to draw blood on me, she did allow me to pick her up and praise her. Was looking at the new Cat Gallery brochure, and they have a cool looking shelf and ladder system for £49, I am going to ask the builder if two of the shelves can be salvaged and put in the room instead. Neighbour thinks we should keep some of the mesh to put inside, so they can have more fresh air, but I’m not sure if that will make it worse for them. It would allow me to open the window more in case we get hot weather again, but last year was the only time in 14 years it’s been an issue, and I can prop the door open a tiny bit overnight now.

Sue P (Paddysmum) · « **Reply #344 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:32:52 AM »

The Paw of Correction. Love it.

Lyn (Slugsta) · « **Reply #343 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:25:56 AM »

Sky wields the 'paw of correction' liberally - but always without claws. She is very clear on what she will, and will not, allow!

Misa · « **Reply #342 on:** March 18, 2019, 20:50:03 PM »

ROFL A WHACK WITHOUT CLAWS IS GOOD INTERACTION, SHE LOOKS SERIOUSLY RELAXED

Sue P (Paddysmum) · « **Reply #341 on:** March 18, 2019, 14:31:35 PM »

I did have a sneaky stroke of her tail, she looked at me and whacked me, but without any claws!

Demmed cheek!!

SERIOUSLY THOUGH, DESLEY, I THINK I'D GO WITH THE DOOR OPEN JUST A CRACK FOR THE TIME BEING. THEY CAN THEN CHOOSE HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO PEEP OUT (OR NOT) AND THEY WON'T FEEL SO EXPOSED TO THE POSSIBILITY OF INTROODERS LEAPING ON THEM.

Sorry about the capitals, there. trouble wiv me keybpard!

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #340 on:** March 18, 2019, 13:43:44 PM »

Luckily I’m used to cats choosing which part of the house they want to live in, at least I’ve finally got away from having cat food on the bed! And I’m used to going at their pace – a friend said that I should carry on leaving the door open, but Chanel was too petrified, wouldn’t come out from the side of the litter tray till I’d shut the door. She did finally investigate the door again at supper time, so I may consider propping it just a little bit open, but going to do that when she seems more ready, there is no need to rush. Coco has been great, one of them had been sick during the afternoon, which I thought was her as she was quiet and didn’t eat much tea, but then she did this! She was a lot more relaxed this morning, I was able to walk past her without being hissed at or her running, I did have a sneaky stroke of her tail, she looked at me and whacked me, but without any claws!

Sue P (Paddysmum) · « **Reply #339 on:** March 18, 2019, 07:21:11 AM »

Am so sorry about the Catio Desley. It's a real shame, given how much they enjoyed it.

I think as Liz has said, cats can continue to surprise us as the years pass, and things we thought would be unimaginable suddenly happen. I hope that will be the case for Coco and Chanel, too. I love the photos.

Misa · « **Reply #338 on:** March 18, 2019, 00:28:20 AM »

POOR CHANEL GETTING SO SCARED, COCO LOOKING GREAT

Lyn (Slugsta) · « **Reply #337 on:** March 17, 2019, 20:26:53 PM »

I agree, it is a real shame that the catio has to go

It does look as if Coco and Chanel are happy in their room, at least for now. Sky is the shame, she did go out a few times when we first had her but, since she was ill, she shows no sign of wanting to leave the bedroom!

Judecat (Paula) · « **Reply #336 on:** March 17, 2019, 16:16:37 PM »

That's a shame, especially as Coco and Chanel enjoyed it so much. Lovely that they are still coming on though.

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #335 on:** March 17, 2019, 15:14:13 PM »

no, they have said it wouldn't be given, apparently it isn't in keeping with the character and appearance of the street - although suspect it is the height that is an issue.

I do hope in time they do want to come out Liz, but I'll leave it till they start asking after this attempt - they didn't eat a full meal till supper time and it was heartbreaking to see Chanel so petrified. They were playing by teatime though, and got some lovely pics of Coco, who was the one unfazed by anything. I suspect if they'd been homed in a 'normal' house, they would be the kind of cats who would choose to live in one room, clearly they can't cope with more than that.

Judecat (Paula) · « **Reply #334 on:** March 17, 2019, 14:54:40 PM »

Why wouldn't they give retrospective PP? Is it the elevation? I know from the conservatory that anything less than 3m X 3m doesn't require it, but that was single storey as far as I am aware.

Lyn (Slugsta) · « **Reply #333 on:** March 17, 2019, 12:50:47 PM »

I'm really sorry about the catio (time and expense too!) - could you not apply for retrospective PP - or have you been told it would be refused?

Judecat (Paula) · « **Reply #332 on:** March 16, 2019, 22:56:04 PM »

So sorry about the catio Desley.

Misa · « **Reply #331 on:** March 16, 2019, 22:21:57 PM »

SO SORRY ABOUT THE CATIO, THEY LOVED IT SO MUCH

Liz · « **Reply #330 on:** March 16, 2019, 16:20:09 PM »

Desley it does take time for them to take the plunge and leave their safe room, took our Harper nearly 2 years and he now comes down stairs to the familyroom on the inside only side of the house and occasionally the diningroom but lives with his mates in our upstairs study but he can now be stroked and comes to see me at feeding time - this has only taken 9 years so time is on your side

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #329 on:** March 16, 2019, 15:41:09 PM »

Quote from: Rosella moggy on March 16, 2019, 15:36:04 PM

Quote from: Desley (booktigger) on March 16, 2019, 09:42:30 AM
Not sure I'll try that again for a while, Chanel seems curious about the door, but clearly they are happier in here than I thought.

I think I must have missed something. What did you try Desley that caused such upset?

Opening the door for them to have access to the rest of the house!!

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #328 on:** March 16, 2019, 15:40:32 PM »

Well, the girls do seem to have forgiven me, Coco at least doesn't seem fazed by it. I did spray some Pet Remedy though, and now Chanel is at least sat in one of the beds and not with her mum! In the stress of this morning, I forgot to say I had a really good evening with them, Coco was very relaxed and was even running after a toy I threw her! Someone on CC said that it proves adopting them was the right thing, imagine the stress moving and potentially separating them would cause!

The catio unfortunately has to go on Fri - the builder was wrong about it not needing planning permission (I did check, but couldn't find a category that covered something like this), so they have said it is unacceptable. As gutted as I am to do it to them, at least it has happened early on, so they haven't had that long to get used to it, and without it I wouldn't have considered adopting them, so I am trying to think everything happens for a reason. And it made me look at a way to give them more space, even though it turned out they don't actually want that. At least I have tried

Rosella moggy · « **Reply #327 on:** March 16, 2019, 15:36:04 PM »

Quote from: Desley (booktigger) on March 16, 2019, 09:42:30 AM

Not sure I'll try that again for a while, Chanel seems curious about the door, but clearly they are happier in here than I thought.

I think I must have missed something. What did you try Desley that caused such upset?

Lyn (Slugsta) · « **Reply #326 on:** March 16, 2019, 10:17:27 AM »

Desley, I'm sorry that the girls have been upset However, it does sound as if they settle again relatively quickly, so I don't think any lasting harm has been done

What is the problem with the catio? It would be a real shame if it has to go

Desley (booktigger) · « **Reply #325 on:** March 16, 2019, 09:42:30 AM »

Well, that didn't go at all like I expected! I ended up popping back in 2 hours later, poor Chanel was cowering in a corner, I went to speak gently to her to calm her down, and she was that petrified she let me stroke her, although Coco was growling at me! When I got up this morning, Coco was in her usual place, but Chanel was cowering at the side of the litter tray! After I shut the door she came and sat at the side of the tray, but was very wary. Then I noticed they hadn't even eaten all their supper, don't think that has ever happened before! Just sat with them now, Chanel is quite unsettled. Not sure I'll try that again for a while, Chanel seems curious about the door, but clearly they are happier in here than I thought.

Rosella moggy · « **Reply #324 on:** March 10, 2019, 11:01:47 AM »

Quote from: Desley (booktigger) on March 07, 2019, 13:53:55 PM

.....we are having catio issues and they might lose it at the end of the month, which is going to affect the life I wanted to give them.....

That's really sad Desley. Can I ask why?

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