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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #351 on: March 23, 2019, 13:47:52 PM »
Good luck, both with Plan B and the council. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #350 on: March 22, 2019, 09:11:47 AM »
Looking at the dimensions, I'm not sure they would be able to sit up in it, but it would give them something. I am going to speak to the council, definitely don't want to end up in this position again. Am going to try plan B again tonight, the rainbow cord stopped the door shutting when I came in to give them their breakfast, and Chanel went to investigate so she clearly has got over last week
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #349 on: March 22, 2019, 02:07:43 AM »
HOPE IT WOULD WORK BUT BEST TO CHECK WITH COUNCIL FIRST

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #348 on: March 21, 2019, 20:17:46 PM »
That looks great Desley! I wouldn't think you should need planning permission - but I wouldn't have thought you would need it for the catio and I was clearly wrong on that score!  :-[

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #347 on: March 21, 2019, 19:04:04 PM »
I think that looks like a workable solution Desley, if it doesn't need planning, obviously check with the Planning Dept first, it may not be as big but would still give them an outside space. ;D Good find! :wow:
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #346 on: March 21, 2019, 13:06:37 PM »
A friend has found this for me, think this could be a good solution – as it installs from the window, not sure if I would need permission or not? Obviously not as big as they have, but better than nothing.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264220355880?ul_noapp=true
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #345 on: March 19, 2019, 13:25:33 PM »
That is a good way of describing it! My vet was surprised that Lucy can use teeth and claws to let me know she isn’t happy, but without breaking the skin, can’t remember what term she used, something about a threshold though. I’m definitely considering it, part of me thinks trying again but slower may work, but part of me wonders if they really want it at the moment. Was very naughty last night, Lucy was sleeping just outside their door while I was in with them, so I pushed her in as I was leaving – Chanel was on the floor near the cupboard, Coco was on the windowsill. Lucy hissed at Chanel, but neither of the girls reacted, I ushered Lucy back out, and she wasn’t worked up enough to draw blood on me, she did allow me to pick her up and praise her. Was looking at the new Cat Gallery brochure, and they have a cool looking shelf and ladder system for £49, I am going to ask the builder if two of the shelves can be salvaged and put in the room instead. Neighbour thinks we should keep some of the mesh to put inside, so they can have more fresh air, but I’m not sure if that will make it worse for them. It would allow me to open the window more in case we get hot weather again, but last year was the only time in 14 years it’s been an issue, and I can prop the door open a tiny bit overnight now.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #344 on: March 19, 2019, 10:32:52 AM »


The Paw of Correction.  Love it.   :evillaugh:


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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #343 on: March 19, 2019, 10:25:56 AM »
Sky wields the 'paw of correction' liberally - but always without claws. She is very clear on what she will, and will not, allow!  ;D

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #342 on: March 18, 2019, 20:50:03 PM »
ROFL A WHACK WITHOUT CLAWS IS GOOD INTERACTION, SHE LOOKS SERIOUSLY RELAXED

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #341 on: March 18, 2019, 14:31:35 PM »




 I did have a sneaky stroke of her tail, she looked at me and whacked me, but without any claws!

Demmed cheek!!   :evillaugh: :evillaugh:


SERIOUSLY THOUGH, DESLEY, I THINK I'D GO WITH THE DOOR OPEN JUST A CRACK FOR THE TIME BEING.  THEY CAN THEN CHOOSE HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO PEEP OUT (OR NOT) AND THEY WON'T FEEL SO EXPOSED TO THE POSSIBILITY OF INTROODERS LEAPING ON THEM.   :shify:  Sorry about the capitals, there.  trouble wiv me keybpard!




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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #340 on: March 18, 2019, 13:43:44 PM »
Luckily I’m used to cats choosing which part of the house they want to live in, at least I’ve finally got away from having cat food on the bed! And I’m used to going at their pace – a friend said that I should carry on leaving the door open, but Chanel was too petrified, wouldn’t come out from the side of the litter tray till I’d shut the door. She did finally investigate the door again at supper time, so I may consider propping it just a little bit open, but going to do that when she seems more ready, there is no need to rush. Coco has been great, one of them had been sick during the afternoon, which I thought was her as she was quiet and didn’t eat much tea, but then she did this! She was a lot more relaxed this morning, I was able to walk past her without being hissed at or her running, I did have a sneaky stroke of her tail, she looked at me and whacked me, but without any claws!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #339 on: March 18, 2019, 07:21:11 AM »


Am so sorry about the Catio Desley.  It's a real shame, given how much they enjoyed it. 

I think as Liz has said, cats can continue to surprise us as the years pass, and things we thought would be unimaginable suddenly happen.  I hope that will be the case for Coco and Chanel, too.  I love the photos.   :Luv:


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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #338 on: March 18, 2019, 00:28:20 AM »
POOR CHANEL GETTING SO SCARED, COCO LOOKING GREAT

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #337 on: March 17, 2019, 20:26:53 PM »
I agree, it is a real shame that the catio has to go  :(

It does look as if Coco and Chanel are happy in their room, at least for now. Sky is the shame, she did go out a few times when we first had her but, since she was ill, she shows no sign of wanting to leave the bedroom! :-[

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #336 on: March 17, 2019, 16:16:37 PM »
That's a shame, especially as Coco and Chanel enjoyed it so much. Lovely that they are still coming on though. :Luv:
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #335 on: March 17, 2019, 15:14:13 PM »
no, they have said it wouldn't be given, apparently it isn't in keeping with the character and appearance of the street - although suspect it is the height that is an issue.

I do hope in time they do want to come out Liz, but I'll leave it till they start asking after this attempt - they didn't eat a full meal till supper time and it was heartbreaking to see Chanel so petrified. They were playing by teatime though, and got some lovely pics of Coco, who was the one unfazed by anything. I suspect if they'd been homed in a 'normal' house, they would be the kind of cats who would choose to live in one room, clearly they can't cope with more than that.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #334 on: March 17, 2019, 14:54:40 PM »
Why wouldn't they give retrospective PP? Is it the elevation? I know from the conservatory that anything less than 3m X 3m doesn't require it, but that was single storey as far as I am aware.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #333 on: March 17, 2019, 12:50:47 PM »
I'm really sorry about the catio (time and expense too!) - could you not apply for retrospective PP - or have you been told it would be refused?

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #332 on: March 16, 2019, 22:56:04 PM »
So sorry about the catio Desley. :(
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #331 on: March 16, 2019, 22:21:57 PM »
SO SORRY ABOUT THE CATIO, THEY LOVED IT SO MUCH

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #330 on: March 16, 2019, 16:20:09 PM »
Desley it does take time for them to take the plunge and leave their safe room, took our Harper nearly 2 years and he now comes down stairs to the familyroom on the inside only side of the house and occasionally the diningroom but lives with his mates in our upstairs study but he can now be stroked and comes to see me at feeding time - this has only taken 9 years so time is on your side :)
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #329 on: March 16, 2019, 15:41:09 PM »
Not sure I'll try that again for a while, Chanel seems curious about the door, but clearly they are happier in here than I thought.

I think I must have missed something.  What did you try Desley that caused such upset?

Opening the door for them to have access to the rest of the house!!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #328 on: March 16, 2019, 15:40:32 PM »
Well, the girls do seem to have forgiven me, Coco at least doesn't seem fazed by it. I did spray some Pet Remedy though, and now Chanel is at least sat in one of the beds and not with her mum! In the stress of this morning, I forgot to say I had a really good evening with them, Coco was very relaxed and was even running after a toy I threw her! Someone on CC said that it proves adopting them was the right thing, imagine the stress moving and potentially separating them would cause!

The catio unfortunately has to go on Fri - the builder was wrong about it not needing planning permission (I did check, but couldn't find a category that covered something like this), so they have said it is unacceptable. As gutted as I am to do it to them, at least it has happened early on, so they haven't had that long to get used to it, and without it I wouldn't have considered adopting them, so I am trying to think everything happens for a reason. And it made me look at a way to give them more space, even though it turned out they don't actually want that. At least I have tried
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #327 on: March 16, 2019, 15:36:04 PM »
Not sure I'll try that again for a while, Chanel seems curious about the door, but clearly they are happier in here than I thought.

I think I must have missed something.  What did you try Desley that caused such upset?

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #326 on: March 16, 2019, 10:17:27 AM »
Desley, I'm sorry that the girls have been upset   :( However, it does sound as if they settle again relatively quickly, so I don't think any lasting harm has been done  :hug:

What is the problem with the catio? It would be a real shame if it has to go  :(

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #325 on: March 16, 2019, 09:42:30 AM »
Well, that didn't go at all like I expected! I ended up popping back in 2 hours later, poor Chanel was cowering in a corner, I went to speak gently to her to calm her down, and she was that petrified she let me stroke her, although Coco was growling at me! When I got up this morning, Coco was in her usual place, but Chanel was cowering at the side of the litter tray! After I shut the door she came and sat at the side of the tray, but was very wary. Then I noticed they hadn't even eaten all their supper, don't think that has ever happened before! Just sat with them now, Chanel is quite unsettled. Not sure I'll try that again for a while, Chanel seems curious about the door, but clearly they are happier in here than I thought.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #324 on: March 10, 2019, 11:01:47 AM »
.....we are having catio issues and they might lose it at the end of the month, which is going to affect the life I wanted to give them.....



That's really sad Desley.  Can I ask why?  :shy:

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #323 on: March 07, 2019, 13:53:55 PM »
I’m just glad I was in a position to be able to adopt them, although we are having catio issues and they might lose it at the end of the month, which is going to affect the life I wanted to give them, but I’m working on shutting Lucy in with me at night so that they can have more space, I’ve made that commitment to them now. Poor Barley, it really doesn’t take much to spook them. The vet was asking how Lucy is at home and I said that as long as you treat her like a semi feral, and accept her quirks, she’s a lovely cat. Paula, unfortunately the majority of the ‘management’ are dog people so certainly don’t understand semi-feral cats. The irony is they were last seen in a filing cabinet, when I was looking for the boys, which was never found, so I had to scan them! The manager has damaged her cruciate ligament and the assistant is also ill, so think everyone is running round trying to keep on top of the essential stuff at the moment. But that doesn’t excuse the fact it should have been sorted at the time of adoption.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #322 on: March 06, 2019, 19:07:55 PM »
You would think that people from a cat charity would have more idea, and how come the Manager has to do it, surely that info should either be available on a computer system or in a filing cabinet able to be accessed by all. It just sounds like a dose of 'lazy' to me Desley. :hug: :hug: :hug:

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #321 on: March 06, 2019, 15:04:14 PM »



Dear God!!   Maybe you'd better give them back now!  (If only you cold handle them...... :doh: :doh:)

I admit to my own anxieties about being unable to get the gurlies to the vet, but even yesterday, Barley freaked out.  She was having a cuddle with me, when OH walked quietly past with a coat in his hand.  She was off me like a shot, neatly raking my shoulder as she fled the coat monsta.   :doh: :doh:



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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #320 on: March 06, 2019, 13:44:10 PM »
Had a message from one of the trustees telling me all I needed to do to sort out the microchips was go online and change them, using my adoption form as proof of ownership (odd, when I was with CP, we had to fill in a special form and provide our charity code to change ownership), but pointed out I don’t have the microchip numbers to do that (and I’m not 100% sure which company they use!). Was told that the manager was having some health issues, so it would be quicker to pop them to the vet and get them scanned than wait for them to find the paperwork. Pointed out these are semi-feral cats (didn’t say I had my own scanner so could have already done that myself!). Reply was ‘can’t you handle them, how do they get vet treatment’ – at which point I stopped answering!  I might actually be able to scan Chanel, she does walk past me a lot when I am sat on the chair, but no chance with Coco.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #319 on: March 04, 2019, 13:40:35 PM »
Had an interesting moment on Sat, I hadn’t fully shut the door when I gave the girls their supper, and Lucy popped her head round cos she heard food. She did hiss at Chanel, but then walked away and I didn’t get any redirected aggression, so I gave her an oral biscuit. Neighbour said that maybe I’m in a position to start introducing them, which I’m not convinced about, but she suggested giving them the run of the house at night. Two main issues with that are getting them back in the morning – Chanel is food orientated enough to follow me for food, not convinced by Coco. Other issue is Lucy – she doesn’t like shut doors, and the bedroom door only gets shut for vet visits, so not sure how well shutting her in my room overnight will go. I have been feeding her supper on the landing for months, so am going to try putting her supper in my room this week, then try shutting the door at weekend.
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« Reply #318 on: February 26, 2019, 14:11:14 PM »


I wouldn't have said chubby.   I think cats of their breed type (whatever that may be) often have very plush, dense coats, which can make them look chunkier than they are.



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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #317 on: February 26, 2019, 13:14:57 PM »
Well, Chanel could certainly pass for a ragdoll, but Coco is short haired, so couldn’t (although was reported as a ragdoll). Their eyes aren’t traditional for any of the colourpoint breeds, they are only blue in certain lights, the rest of the time they are yellow. Another relaxed moment with Coco last night, she was cleaning her back leg till she saw me pick up the phone, then decided to ‘pose’. Sent this to a friend who said she is getting chubby, I think it is just the angle of the pic personally. Unfortunately then my neighbours lodger banged on the door, all 3 cats freaked out, but I went back and read to the girls and they calmed down a lot. She ended up in an awkward position when eating her supper biscuits off my hand and touched me twice with her paw. I did try getting Chanel to come closer by putting the Da Bird toy near my feet, but it just stops her playing.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #316 on: February 25, 2019, 22:53:48 PM »
I DONT THINK THEY HAVE SIAMESE IN THEMBUT POSSIBLYRAGDOLL BIRMAN OR DAM CANT THINK OF THE OTHER ONE

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #315 on: February 25, 2019, 13:37:31 PM »
Yes, last week has made me feel really positive about them, the only downside is they do keep showing an interest in the door, but both know their name and move when you call them. Couldn’t get Coco in till 6 last night, I tried twice from 4, and both times she looked at me and jumped in the catio. Chanel is funny, if she is out and I sit on the chair, she comes in and asks to play – in the morning I try and ignore her to get her to go back out in the fresh air. I am wondering if they just have colourpoint in their background rather than Siamese, I stood on Chanel’s tail last night, and she didn’t make a noise! They certainly don’t have the Siamese vocalisation, although at meal times Chanel can get a bit whiny. You’d think it isn’t all that long ago Sue, but I’ve had them for 17 months now! My friend who has two dogs on foster for the charity had to speak to the manager today, so has asked for me, apparently someone will get in touch!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #314 on: February 25, 2019, 06:45:01 AM »


Desley, I'm so glad you decided to take these two on.  Just look at them.   ;D  Doesn't seem so very long ago that all you would see was a pair of eyes from some hiding place. 




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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #313 on: February 24, 2019, 17:52:32 PM »
GREAT THINGS HAPPENING, IT WILL TAKE TIME BUT THEY WILL GET THERE

YOU COULDNT HAVE DREAMED OF THIS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #312 on: February 24, 2019, 15:56:56 PM »
She does look a tad awkward on top of the cat scratcher. :evillaugh:
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