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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #320 on: March 06, 2019, 13:44:10 PM »
Had a message from one of the trustees telling me all I needed to do to sort out the microchips was go online and change them, using my adoption form as proof of ownership (odd, when I was with CP, we had to fill in a special form and provide our charity code to change ownership), but pointed out I don’t have the microchip numbers to do that (and I’m not 100% sure which company they use!). Was told that the manager was having some health issues, so it would be quicker to pop them to the vet and get them scanned than wait for them to find the paperwork. Pointed out these are semi-feral cats (didn’t say I had my own scanner so could have already done that myself!). Reply was ‘can’t you handle them, how do they get vet treatment’ – at which point I stopped answering!  I might actually be able to scan Chanel, she does walk past me a lot when I am sat on the chair, but no chance with Coco.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #319 on: March 04, 2019, 13:40:35 PM »
Had an interesting moment on Sat, I hadn’t fully shut the door when I gave the girls their supper, and Lucy popped her head round cos she heard food. She did hiss at Chanel, but then walked away and I didn’t get any redirected aggression, so I gave her an oral biscuit. Neighbour said that maybe I’m in a position to start introducing them, which I’m not convinced about, but she suggested giving them the run of the house at night. Two main issues with that are getting them back in the morning – Chanel is food orientated enough to follow me for food, not convinced by Coco. Other issue is Lucy – she doesn’t like shut doors, and the bedroom door only gets shut for vet visits, so not sure how well shutting her in my room overnight will go. I have been feeding her supper on the landing for months, so am going to try putting her supper in my room this week, then try shutting the door at weekend.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #318 on: February 26, 2019, 14:11:14 PM »


I wouldn't have said chubby.   I think cats of their breed type (whatever that may be) often have very plush, dense coats, which can make them look chunkier than they are.



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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #317 on: February 26, 2019, 13:14:57 PM »
Well, Chanel could certainly pass for a ragdoll, but Coco is short haired, so couldn’t (although was reported as a ragdoll). Their eyes aren’t traditional for any of the colourpoint breeds, they are only blue in certain lights, the rest of the time they are yellow. Another relaxed moment with Coco last night, she was cleaning her back leg till she saw me pick up the phone, then decided to ‘pose’. Sent this to a friend who said she is getting chubby, I think it is just the angle of the pic personally. Unfortunately then my neighbours lodger banged on the door, all 3 cats freaked out, but I went back and read to the girls and they calmed down a lot. She ended up in an awkward position when eating her supper biscuits off my hand and touched me twice with her paw. I did try getting Chanel to come closer by putting the Da Bird toy near my feet, but it just stops her playing.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #316 on: February 25, 2019, 22:53:48 PM »
I DONT THINK THEY HAVE SIAMESE IN THEMBUT POSSIBLYRAGDOLL BIRMAN OR DAM CANT THINK OF THE OTHER ONE

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #315 on: February 25, 2019, 13:37:31 PM »
Yes, last week has made me feel really positive about them, the only downside is they do keep showing an interest in the door, but both know their name and move when you call them. Couldn’t get Coco in till 6 last night, I tried twice from 4, and both times she looked at me and jumped in the catio. Chanel is funny, if she is out and I sit on the chair, she comes in and asks to play – in the morning I try and ignore her to get her to go back out in the fresh air. I am wondering if they just have colourpoint in their background rather than Siamese, I stood on Chanel’s tail last night, and she didn’t make a noise! They certainly don’t have the Siamese vocalisation, although at meal times Chanel can get a bit whiny. You’d think it isn’t all that long ago Sue, but I’ve had them for 17 months now! My friend who has two dogs on foster for the charity had to speak to the manager today, so has asked for me, apparently someone will get in touch!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #314 on: February 25, 2019, 06:45:01 AM »


Desley, I'm so glad you decided to take these two on.  Just look at them.   ;D  Doesn't seem so very long ago that all you would see was a pair of eyes from some hiding place. 




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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #313 on: February 24, 2019, 17:52:32 PM »
GREAT THINGS HAPPENING, IT WILL TAKE TIME BUT THEY WILL GET THERE

YOU COULDNT HAVE DREAMED OF THIS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #312 on: February 24, 2019, 15:56:56 PM »
She does look a tad awkward on top of the cat scratcher. :evillaugh:
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #311 on: February 24, 2019, 14:47:33 PM »
Have had a really good week this week with them, feel a lot more positive that keeping them was the right thing to do, and I think a big part of that is having more time with them due to quitting my voluntary work, not sure it would have worked as well otherwise. Tue night I popped back in after feeding everyone and didn't fully shut the door, Chanel went to it, and Lucy was on the landing, so growled and hissed at her - Chanel didn't react in the slightest, but makes me feel like integrating them isn't going to happen any time soon. Wed my neighbours granddaughter came round, Chanel took one look at her and ran in the catio, Coco hissed at her, but she is used to being hissed at, so she carried on walking towards her, so got growled and popped at! Thu night Coco went near the door, laid on her side and then when I called her name, she glanced at me, which I got a pic of, and that made me feel so positive. I did leave the door slightly open that night too, and she went to investigate, but she does respond to her name. After lying on her side, she got playful in a mad way and jumped on the small scratch post, and then wasn't sure what to do, Chanel thought that was a good game and kept batting her legs/tail! Last night she felt relaxed enough again to lie on her side, then decided to clean her bits, which while a good sign, I could have done without!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #310 on: February 15, 2019, 19:20:05 PM »
Yes, they have come on well, and there is always time for a cuddlebug to come out, although I wouldn't be surprised if Coco comes round better than Chanel
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #309 on: February 15, 2019, 17:23:22 PM »
I think they have come on amazingly well, still time for a cuddlebug to appear! :)
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #308 on: February 15, 2019, 12:36:50 PM »
That’s nice to know Tab, I was off on Wed, had a few bits to do so went out twice and neither time saw them out! 
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #307 on: February 14, 2019, 15:50:18 PM »
I went passed yours on Monday and the girls were both in the catio looking relaxed and happy.
They do seem a lot more settled

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #306 on: February 14, 2019, 13:02:06 PM »
I think I made her feel better too Sue!! I’m not sure how long she had to keep hers confined, although she had the advantage of having already established a relationship with them by feeding them – although she still can’t pick them up 7 years later! It’s nice for someone to meet them in the flesh and comment that they look content – it is a lot more work and effort than just adopting two ‘normal’ cats and being able to have them all loose in the house, but don’t think it would have worked, or indeed been fair, if I’d continued volunteering, I’ve even noticed a difference in Lucy. Still wish I wouldn’t get hissed at everytime I scoop the litter tray mind, and slightly frustrating they don’t hiss at visitors, but then Lucy hisses most days (not always aimed at me, she still hisses when I open the front door, just in case there is a cat there!). Had a lovely moment with Chanel this morning, she was rolling round gazing at me purring, but then jumped up as if she realised she was relaxing too much! I think if we can ever break that fear, she’ll be a cuddlebug.  Yes, I should probably contact the charity.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #305 on: February 14, 2019, 06:42:11 AM »


What I love about your neighbour's friend's observations, is that she is a step removed from your particular situation, yet fully understands what it means to take on cats with issues.  You invest so much in your girls, on a daily basis, and sometimes it's easy to be blind to progress.    And because your neighbour's friend knows how things tick, she's able to see just how far you've come.  And I think that progress will continue steadily over the months and years ahead.   :) :)

For what it's worth, I'd still approach the charity about the microchip changes.  if they then ask for the adoption fee, you can point out why you believe that would be inappropriate, having regard to all of the circumstances..   :hug:




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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #304 on: February 13, 2019, 17:54:12 PM »
Well, she'll be 2 in June. So Coco could be as young as 2.5 but think older. Chanel being her daft self
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #303 on: February 12, 2019, 20:05:32 PM »
I LOVE YOU TELLING US ABOUT THESE TWO.

ONE IS TWO, WOW I THOUGHT THEY WERE BOTH YOUNGER

DO I REMEMBER THAT THEY ARE MOTHER AND DAUGHTER

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #302 on: February 12, 2019, 13:08:35 PM »
One of my neighbours friends came round on Sun to pick up some food that my spoilt brats wont eat, hopefully hers will! She is like me, ended up with more cats than she wanted as she was feeding cats at her work, then when they shut the factory, she got CP to help her trap them, and had them in her spare room to introduce them gradually, although her existing cats are a lot friendlier than mine so didn’t have to confine them quite as long. When I said that it wasn’t my choice to keep these two, as it broke my promise to Lucy, she said ‘but sometimes needs must, and they seem content in here’, which I was pleased about. Bizarrely neither of them ran away, even though Chanel was in the open on the floor, and neither hissed, although Coco’s body language wasn’t great, she was laid in a really odd position with her ears flat. She gave them two treats each, which they ignored but had gone by the time we got back from shopping. Then I was telling her about Lucy, and she was in awe at how in tune with my cats I am, and the things I’ve done for them. She didn’t say much about the catio, although she already knew about that, but she was really impressed with the den. I think the combination of that and the catio is the reason it is working as well. Was looking for a new litter scoop in the wardrobe last night, and realised that now I’m not fostering, I don’t need the amount of stuff that is in there (beds, blankets, trays, scoops), so I think I might sort through it all and take it to the charity Lucy is from, or even split it between them and the charity the girls are from. It did dawn on me while I was sweeping their room on Sun that the charity never came back to me about the adoption fee, although that makes it a tad awkward as I also haven’t had the microchip details. I also like the fact that while Chanel was born outside and has human trust issues due to that, she came in early enough that even though she is 2 this year, she is still very kittenish and playful, whereas Coco is still unsure what play is, although she is getting better, she even attempted to play with Da Bird last week, that normally scares her – wish I had an idea how old she is.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #301 on: February 10, 2019, 10:00:05 AM »
I make her eat part of her supper off my hand every day, I used to make her it until she'd had enough, but now I just do the first handful. Chanel is still wary of eating from my hand
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #300 on: February 10, 2019, 09:38:16 AM »
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #299 on: February 10, 2019, 08:42:03 AM »
Yes, they are doing well - I had to take the grooming mat back as it was too small for the den and too large for the shop bought scratch post, so bought one of the arches, they were half price. She has gone through it both with and without toys, but not convinced her fur is getting close to the brushes. We are trying the second litter, I wasn't sure at first as it is a very dark grey, but it is a fine sand like litter and it doesn't seem to be tracking that much - or if it is, I can't see it or feel it. These seem to be like Lucy, will just use the tray regardless of what litter I put in it. I did notice when Coco was eating off my hand the other day that she has blondish hairs running through her tail.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #298 on: February 01, 2019, 12:35:23 PM »
Not quite so sure about that Gill – she may have been warm enough, but no doubt the wet element will mean she gets a few matts! Picking up the grooming thing tomorrow though. Yes, this breakthrough is good.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #297 on: January 31, 2019, 15:35:37 PM »
WELL SHE HAS THE RIGHT SUIT FOR SNOW LOL

EVERY LITTLE BREAKTHROUGH IS WONDERFUL AND THIS ONE VERY GOOD

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #296 on: January 30, 2019, 12:39:32 PM »
Chanel is rubbing my legs more and more - all 3 times I fed them yesterday! She has only started doing that in the past few weeks, so maybe in another month there will be another breakthrough. She got close to snow this morning for the first time, she was the only one of the three who was curious!!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #295 on: January 24, 2019, 13:28:16 PM »
Yes, they certainly are improving a lot this year, not sure if it is being less stressed and having more time to spend with them, or whether it is just a natural progression after 16 months. Last night I was properly multi tasking, was watching TV on the tablet, playing with the rainbow cord with one hand for Coco, the Da Bird in the other for Chanel and in between that, playing my game! Coco did show a bit of interest in Da Bird, although it scares her when it flies through the air, I have to gently move it along a flat surface for her. I also opened the first of the clumping litter last night, they have happily used it, but I’m not convinced I like it – it’s like Cats Best, but smaller grains, and not convinced it clumps as well.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #294 on: January 24, 2019, 13:18:49 PM »
I THINK THEY ARE DOING REALLY WELL AND SLOWLY COMING OUT OF THEIR SHELLS,  UMM FUR LOL

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« Reply #293 on: January 24, 2019, 12:20:39 PM »
See, still getting better. :Luv:



Exactly so.   :hug:  And sometimes, they may take a step backwards again, but we have to trust the process.




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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #292 on: January 24, 2019, 09:16:38 AM »
See, still getting better. :Luv:
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #291 on: January 23, 2019, 13:08:18 PM »
Realised yesterday that something Coco did on Sat night was actually quite a big thing – she went and sat on the floor near the door, then laid on her side and started cleaning herself, showing her belly in the process. I commented on what a nice belly it was, she briefly stopped and looked at me, but then decided cleaning herself was more important. You can buy silicone grooming things that wrap round scratching posts, am going to buy one of those when I get paid. If that doesn’t work, then I’ll get an arch, but I am running out of floor space! Was at the vets with Lucy last night, so registered them – the vet overhead and asked if I’d finally caved in, so told her I didn’t really have much choice, can’t foster cats when you don’t volunteer for the charity! She agreed that it isn’t ideal to keep them confined, but then when I showed her the pic of Coco twelve months apart, she did agree it doesn’t look like they are bothered by it, and maybe in 5 years I’ll be able to stroke them, although it may be grudgingly. I just don’t know what I will do if they show signs of being bothered by being confined. I was saying that Chanel will happily rub my legs, purr when she sees me, shows her belly, but then pulls away from contact, she said she’s just odd, I said ‘well, she is my cat, would you expect anything different?’
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #290 on: January 17, 2019, 17:34:37 PM »
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #289 on: January 17, 2019, 13:40:54 PM »
Yes, I thought that when I did it Sue, you don’t always see it day to day, but that really is proof of how much Coco has come on, it may not have been enough for them to be tame enough for a ‘normal’ home but then things happen for a reason, and keeping these two means I’m not feeling the loss of my voluntary work the same, as they are keeping my routine, and they are my new ‘project’. I’m still hoping it is the right decision for them though. I told Coco what Gill said and that it would be fantastic if in years they were more like normal cats, but if they never improve from this, that is equally fine by me. She considered it and then ate from my hand.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #288 on: January 17, 2019, 08:37:23 AM »
SO AGREE WITH SUE AND JUST READ BACK THRO YOUR POSTS ON HERE AND THAT DETAILS THEIR MASSIVE PROGRESS

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« Reply #287 on: January 16, 2019, 15:16:47 PM »


Desley, in terms of your comment:  "I do hope I get to see them grow in confidence......" the proof is right there in front of all our eyes.  I suspect it's harder for you to see, as you're living it, day by day, but there's no doubting that these two have come on leaps and bounds since you took them in. 



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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #286 on: January 16, 2019, 13:46:50 PM »
I'm so glad they are officially yours now, they are adorable  :Luv2:

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #285 on: January 16, 2019, 13:42:38 PM »
Managed to do this, a comparison between when they first came and a year on, the Sept 17 pic is the first time I saw Coco not in hiding, massive difference in her. Now she even asks for things (play, reading, treats!).
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #284 on: January 15, 2019, 13:25:21 PM »
Thanks Tab, I hope you are right! It is strange having young cats, but they do fit under the ‘hard to home’ criteria. I do hope I get to see them grow in confidence, someone on CC said that maybe now the decision is made and the paperwork done that I have relaxed and that is why there has been an improvement – plus I now have more time after quitting my voluntary work. The girls amused me last night, then Lucy was being daft, it made me think that all 3 have ended up with me because they have issues that make them hard to home, but I’m lucky to have them. Yes, my neighbour has one too. You are more than welcome to come and meet them. It is odd not having to get insurance quotes, they are the first in years that haven’t had insurance. Finally got a pair of them together, you can’t tell on this but Chanel is purring – only being a slight floozy though.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #283 on: January 14, 2019, 16:58:04 PM »


I'm glad they're yours now too.  That scared little shadow peeping out of the box - awful they were so traumatised.  So much happier with you. 


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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #282 on: January 14, 2019, 16:01:28 PM »
I'm glad they're yours now. Best home they could have and you get to watch them grow in confidence.

Has someone else on your street got a catio too?
I'm sure I saw one when walking past the other week

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #281 on: January 14, 2019, 13:46:16 PM »
Slightly late, but paperwork has been signed, so the girls are officially mine, so let’s hope it was the right decision for them! Just waiting for the microchip details to be done. Chanel has been different since, not sure if it is co-incidence or not, but she keeps being a floozy, rolling over to show her belly, and stretching her paws out, although I’m not allowed to try and touch her back. She often gazes at me and purrs, which is lovely, and she has started to get really affectionate when I’m doing their food, rubbing against my leg, this morning she forgot herself and actually laid on my foot before realising and jumping up! Yesterday Coco was in the catio after I’d finished cleaning and I always give them treats, I put my hand through the window to put them on the shelf and she didn’t freak out, just watched me, then I heard her eating them when my back was turned.  Not sure I ever shared this very first picture of Coco, while she was still at the rescue, but she is barely recognisable! They do seem happy and content with what they have, although Chanel doesn’t really know any different, and this may be the best home Coco has ever had. Chanel is looking quite scruffy though, her ruff seems massive and she doesn’t seem to groom it that well. She has started developing matts since going outside, luckily she has very silky fur so they drop out quite easily
Please spay your cat



 


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