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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #40 on: October 17, 2017, 20:59:13 PM »
Another first - well 2 actually, it's the first time we've seen her eat wet food! I would have cropped my foot out, but shows perspective




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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2017, 21:37:01 PM »
Oooh er, I was too bored today, when I should have been doing stuff, and bought 6 of those crinkly balls, 3 for mine and 3 for Gills. I was just  :tired: :naughty:
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2017, 18:15:10 PM »
Most relaxed I've seen Coco during the day. Had Chanel taking treats from my hand again, but she isn't happy if I try and touch her
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2017, 10:57:07 AM »
It's not been discussed, but the boys were here 6 months, and we've had a dog for 2 years, so am sure they will get as long as it takes. I just hope it's the right thing for Coco, a couple of years ago we took in mum and kittens, mum was very quiet so we thought she was homeable, when we took her for second vacc the vet disagreed, we found her a home where she was safe if she wanted to go out, they kept her in for about 7 weeks before she showed signs of wanting to go out and was never seen again
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2017, 10:34:27 AM »
Do you mean how long I've got to bring them round R?

Yes that's what I meant Desley.  It would be lovely to think they could be rehomed together but that's not always best.  I know Dinah wouldn't have given a hoot to have been rehomed away from her family.  Despite being a fab mom for 12 weeks or so (even allowing an orphan to join her gang and suckle), she dumped Ruby and Millie on us as soon as she was able to and showed no interest in them ever again.  We thought we were doing her a favour but I often wonder if she would have much preferred to wave them farewell  :-:
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2017, 10:32:21 AM »
Yes, they are, especially when you consider it's only been just over 2 weeks and both had an unsettled few weeks prior to coming here. Coco has drawn blood twice while trying to offer her treats, my neighbour just suggested I used chicken instead!  :shocked:

My initial plan is to get Chanel homeable, then go back to the rescue for adoption, I don't think it would be feasible to find a home for both of them, as I don't think they will be ready at the same time, and I suspect they will need different homes. I think Coco will be harder, it's a shame Lucy is so intolerant, or she could have stayed here
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2017, 10:04:37 AM »
I think, bloodloss notwithstanding, that they are coming on quite well. Softee softee catchee monkey, or cats in this case, I can't believe your neighbour thinks that grabbing them is a good idea. :doh:

They are really beautiful cats Desley, once you have worked your magic I can't see you having any difficulty finding homes for them. Will they be rehomed as a pair?
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2017, 09:12:46 AM »
Yes, it is tough to know if they would do better, but then Coco is watching Chanel play, but if I put Da Bird near Coco she pops at it, so I think it is helping her. I sat on the floor again last night (sciatica doesn't like that!) and I could see Coco watching me. This was when I went in at supper time last night.

Do you mean how long I've got to bring them round R?
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2017, 09:01:52 AM »

Hopefully Chanel will teach Coco that you're safe in time.  It's great that she isn't following her mom's lead being so wary. 

How long do you expect to be able to give them Desley?  I do wonder if Chanel would do even better being away from mom?

Which in turn makes me wonder if Coco might be forced into being more friendly if she weren't allowed to hide being her daughter.  Such a tough one to call.


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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #31 on: October 14, 2017, 20:15:35 PM »
Seemed to have a bit of a breakthrough last night, had been playing with Chanel and trying unsuccessfully to get her to take a treat stick from my hand, then my neighbour interrupted us. When I went back in, Coco had come out and was behind the chair, so I ended up sitting on the floor. Got Chanel to come part way towards me, then I started tapping my fingers on the floor to get her interested (I know you aren't supposed to encourage playing with hands, but I find it helps with kittens), and she could smell some houmous on my fingers so started licking them!! I got a full treat stick into her, part taken from my hand, part from the floor at the side of me, and part from my knee!! This pic was taken last night, if you zoom you can see Coco behind the chair

This afternoon, I swept the cat room, I thought I was only going to manage part of it as they were in the scratching post, but I was able to sweep in front of it without being popped at. Tried sitting on the floor again tonight, Chanel wasn't interested, but I could see Coco watching me. My sciatica doesn't quite appreciate it though!!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2017, 13:16:04 PM »
Interesting evening with Chanel, she was reluctant to come out for Da Bird as I was trying to stroke her with it, so thought I’d see what she thought of the lazer pen – she was racing round the room for it, but got so fixated on it, she wouldn’t even sniff at the treat I was offering her, instead trying to find out where the dot had gone!! Tried to end it on a toy, but she still couldn’t grasp it. Tried to offer Coco a bit of a treat stick, and she drew blood again. Went in at supper, and forgot to check where Coco was, she was behind the chair when I sat on it, she flew out, but couldn’t get behind the bed, so she ended up on the den – she didn’t fully relax, but she watched Chanel play, and actually let me put some food close to her. Chanel is finally eating all her breakfast practically as soon as I put it down, but tea doesn’t go down as quickly. They have been here 2 weeks today, and I’m still unsure about whether Coco can come round, although I was a bit happier last night when she let me pick up bowls, fill them and put them close to her.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2017, 13:02:07 PM »
I have no idea re the fur markings or the color of eyes maybe a color point site can help, they are very beautiful anyway.

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2017, 11:14:17 AM »
I'm used to cats not liking new things, Lucy still doesn't like my rug, over 12 months later, just shocked at her reaction to something that wasn't near her (although that's a regular occurrence with Lu too!)she had a similar reaction last night when I scooped poo. Thu night was good, they were both behind the chair,
mum didn't pop when I got near, so I ended up laying on the floor moving my hand closer - bit disconcerting as she was growling and hissing but ears weren't back. Chanel has quite a few tabby strips where her points are paler, is that normal for colour points? They also don't have blue eyes.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2017, 21:51:10 PM »
sounds as if there just coming along just fine, a mop next they usually like to chase them  ;) ;)

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2017, 06:59:38 AM »
Ah yes - the introduction of "new stuff."  Everything gets treated with huge suspicion.   :shify: :shify: 

We got caught out like that a number of times. 

Even Moray, when we bought the Tru-pet grooming glove freaked out at first seeing it, and yet he loves to be groomed with it now. 

When we got the Gurlies it was in the week or so leading up to Bonfire Night, and we thought we'd lost them in a closed room.  I don't know to this day how they did it, but I'd only left them, for half an hour, and they managed to get the sliding wardrobe doors open, winkle themselves inside an overstuffed wardrobe, and get the door pooey after them!   :-:

Cats are ever resourceful, yet capable of huge changes of mind-set.   How was last night with them?

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2017, 20:07:36 PM »
Thanks Sue. Had an odd moment with Coco earlier, I figured as she was in the top box that I could sweep the floor, a few minutes later a growling blur flew past me, was a bit scary for a moment. Got some of the calming treats when I ordered some more Calm
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2017, 17:42:58 PM »
 ;D ;D  Desley that's great progress.  I'm sorry, but I'm with you rather than your neighbour.  With scared and/or feisty cats, grabbing is an absolute NO!   Your approach is by far and away thew better one - they need to know that bad things wont happen when you're around - that you're the bringer of lovely treats, and playtime and calm chilling out time. 

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2017, 15:51:15 PM »
Yeah, I'm so pleased at how well she is doing. Coco is sitting out in the open more and doesn't look as stressed, not sure if it is the Feliway or the RC Calm. She has found a new hiding place, it's slightly easier to see her which is good. My neighbour thinks I should try and grab mum to get her used to being handled, but I'm not a fan of doing that to kittens, have never done it to an adult, would rather they get used to my presence, then use food. Another breakthrough last night, cornered Chanel and held her, after a few mins, she struggled away, drawing blood in the process!! Then she went in the dome bed, I put my hand in to give her a treat, she swiped me twice before realising I had food!! Gave her one bit, then refused to give her the other till she purred, but I managed it.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2017, 15:10:01 PM »
looks good, in more ways than one!

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2017, 15:03:33 PM »
Here is Chanel in the open
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2017, 09:55:30 AM »
What news, Desley? 

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2017, 14:06:59 PM »
Yes, it is all encouraging – supper last night went pretty much the same, except that when Coco moved off the den, she didn’t rush into hiding, she seems to think behind the chair is hiding!! I did hope last night that as she will stay in the open, she has the potential, as she hisses and growls, but doesn’t fly off immediately, and stayed watching while I was talking to her. They still aren’t eating during the day though. I do enjoy the sense of satisfaction you get from timid cats, although not sure I’ve ever had a purr so quickly!! We’ve had my neighbours rugrats a year now, and they are still improving on a daily basis.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2017, 06:45:57 AM »
That's so encouraging.   ;D ;D  I remember how excited we'd get when we first brought the gurlies home and some tiny communication barrier would be overcome.   

I still recall the day that Malt crawled underneath my dressing gown, which I'd laid over my tented knees, and went to sleep nestled against my thigh.   :Luv: :Luv:  She was the first to make that move. 

They still manage to surprise and delight us two years further on.  Am really hoping these two can be cracked and brought round.   :) :hug: :hug:

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2017, 20:56:37 PM »
I've got a good feeling about Chanel, I keep getting curious looks from her. Tonight I dangled the da bird toy out, she put half her head out of the box while I was reading to them, I did get her out playing! But reluctant to take her webbox stick from me, but came out for it
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2017, 17:48:04 PM »
  Well done Desley.   :)

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2017, 13:18:36 PM »
Thanks Dawn, am doing a Zooplus order at lunch, so will see if they sell them. Popped in last night after giving them some supper, Coco stayed on the scratching post in full sight, admittedly growling a lot. Chanel was in the box, I managed to stroke her and got her purring again (at least she only kept hissing, there was no more swiping)
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2017, 09:13:11 AM »
I have used the Beaphar Calming Cat Treats


and of course am a big fan of rc calm!

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2017, 19:45:11 PM »
Ooh, do you have the name of the treats Lyn? Well, I ignored the hissing and swiping, and managed to get Chanel to eat some cat tuna from my hand. Slightly concerned that she is swiping a bit earlier now, like she is picking up mums bad habits
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2017, 18:04:21 PM »
They are both very beautiful  :Luv2: I'm sure some patient love can only help, even if slowly. We have some calming treats for Sky, they contain valerian and other herbs, and she has just 2 a day. I think they might help a little but it is hard to say because she is so much more settled anyway.

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2017, 11:56:19 AM »
it is, and I'm not bothered by the fact she has been reluctant since, I know it's normally one step forward, 2 back. She's swiping more, so slightly bothered by the fact mum is rubbing off on her. That patch is from where she was spayed
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2017, 11:42:23 AM »
Well done, Desley.  Even a baby step is giant step with cats like these two.  Is that a scar on Coco' s hind leg?

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2017, 09:14:21 AM »
had a good moment with Chanel yesterday, I got her purring for a few minutes before she scared herself and hit me! Had nothing but hissing since. Coco was exploring more last night, so I have a full pic of her, she ended up sitting who's the chair while I was sat on it, and growled everytime I checked she was there.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2017, 13:09:33 PM »
Well, the decision not to eartip had nothing to do with looks,we hadn't seen her by that point. It will takes while, and judging off Chanel, quite a bit of blood drawn, but I like the challenge. Sue, I'm going to see if the feliway helps where it is first. Zylkene would be tricky as Coco doesn't like wet, but I have 1kg of RC Calm biscuits left, so giving her those
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2017, 07:45:53 AM »

Wow they look uber posh kitties Desley.  Very pretty  :Luv2: :Luv2:

The youngster looks quite unusual in a stunning way and can well understand why you didn't want to clip ears.

Very much hope you are able to bring mom and baby around but think it's gonna take a while?


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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2017, 06:55:20 AM »
Beautiful pair, Desley.  If it's possible, could you put the plug-in in their room?  And Zylkene mixed in with their food?

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2017, 20:01:00 PM »
Yep, certainly a challenge Lyn! Got home to find them cuddled up together, which could be a bad thing as mum pops at you if you get too close. The feliway is on the landing at the side of the cat room door, so it must get in there. Got this, but mum flew at me
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2017, 17:51:28 PM »
They sound like a bit of a challenge Desley!

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2017, 14:35:16 PM »
ooh they sound lovely, I hope for their sake they will let you work your magic!

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2017, 14:13:18 PM »
Look forward to seeing the pics Desley, and to hearing how you get on with them both

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Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2017, 13:45:18 PM »
3 weeks ago, we were asked to take in a ragdoll, she had been hanging round someone’s workplace. She was trapped, and taken straight to the vet for neutering etc. The vet did ask if we wanted to eartip her, as they felt she might need a farm home, but we wanted to give her a chance first. She isn’t a ragdoll, but is a seal colourpoint, we don’t think Siamese, as she is a bit too chunky for that. She wasn’t doing well in a pen situation, so we have shuffled things round to put her with an indoor fosterer, to see if she can come round. Just as we were arranging this, the person who had asked us to take mum asked us to take the kitten she had kept, as she was too wild. We decided that as mum was being moved, we’d arrange for the kitten to be neutered that day, to both go to the fosterer and be worked on together. The kitten is also a seal colourpoint, but fluffier than mum, we think about 3-4 months.

So far, they are hiding in different boxes in the room, mum (Coco), has hissed, growled and swiped when I went to put the food a bit closer to her, kitten (Chanel) was allowing fusses last night, but this morning has been hissing and swiped at me when I ignored the hissing.

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