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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #160 on: July 24, 2018, 22:39:03 PM »
WHAT DO YOU READ DESLEY, I MAY TRY IT WITH LUPIN

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #159 on: July 24, 2018, 13:36:48 PM »
Rubbish pics, as I only had the tablet with me, but I’d dumped a blanket that needed washing on top of the box on Sun and Chanel dived on it, so swapped it for her favourite cushion and last night she was padding away while I read to them. Coco was in the bed on the floor when I first walked in, but I forgot something and when I went back in she’d moved to her usual spot. Chanel was quite brave this morning and sniffed my face, so she got a Dreamie for that – she has been braver since I moved the table next to the chair I sit on, so she can be close to me without me being aware! It is amazing how well they respond to being read to – wouldn’t do it with Lucy, she can get huffy when you try and talk to her, even if you are saying how much you love her!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #158 on: July 24, 2018, 07:24:44 AM »
 :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

I love that, Desley. 

I used to underestimate the power of reading to cats in particular.  It wasn't until we got Moray, and we had to keep him away from Tinks initially, that I would read, and sit with him, telling him stories and other nonsense.  It gives them an opportunity to enjoy your company without stress, and they seem to know it's just for them.   When we got the gurlies, it was something I really think helped them to grow accustomed to our presence - that, and just sitting there watching catch up tv on the tablet, so they could explore without me being too direct with my presence.

I love that Coco "assumes the position" and settles down ready for a good story.   ;D




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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #157 on: July 23, 2018, 22:00:58 PM »
LOVE IT THEY GET A BEDROOM STORY AND CHANEL BEING MISCIEVOUS AND SUR SHE WILL LOVE THE ENCLOSURE

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #156 on: July 23, 2018, 13:35:58 PM »
Went up early last night, so spent a bit of time reading quietly before their bedtime story, Coco didn’t seem too impressed, but when I started reading she laid out with one leg stretched in front of her, it really does relax her. Unfortunately Chanel was in mischief mode last night (not sure 23 is cool enough to start playing Da Bird with her!), so spoiled the moment! She was hilarious though, I’m sure she is going to love the enclosure, and luckily I can leave it open all night if they refuse to come in – although I’m hoping they are food orientated enough not to miss supper!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #155 on: July 22, 2018, 20:05:35 PM »
No Gill, just not a cat person, never mind complex cats. Apparently we've had someone wanting a pair of semi feral cats so hope she doesn't forget our conversation or I may have to adopt them.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #154 on: July 22, 2018, 18:49:38 PM »
I DONT UNDERSTAND THE RESCUE WOMAN, IS SHE THICK

CHANEL GOING BONKERS FOR YOUR CRISPS LOL, SHE SOUNDS LIKE A REAL CAT

I WISH I HAD A BUILDER TO DO THINGS FOR ME THAT QUICK, OR DO ANYTHING

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #153 on: July 21, 2018, 18:26:13 PM »
Builder is hopeful he can do it Wed/Thu this week. Rescue lady rang about a home visit last night and asked me about the girls, she said she was concerned about how long I'd had them (she thinks people get fed up if they have had them a certain length of time!), she seemed to forget the conversation we had the other week, asked if I thought they should go back in a pen (can you imagine??) so I said they weren't homeable in the true sense, when I described what they needed, she thought it was impossible, so I said again about the long term foster bit, she didn't seem too enthusiastic, but left it that she would trust my judgement, so I'll take that as a yes I can! I didn't mention the enclosure again as she didn't seem keen on me paying last time. At least my vet was more enthusiastic about the scenario.

Last night I ended up having some crisps in here (I try not to eat in the cat room), Chanel went bonkers and started gently touching my arm and leg, so I obviously gave her a bit!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #152 on: July 20, 2018, 18:22:20 PM »
COCO AND CHANEL ARE FULL OF SURPISES  ;D

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #151 on: July 20, 2018, 13:36:27 PM »
She really doesn’t Sue and thinks I’m too soft on her and that it’s made her worse, when the reality is I’ve found what calms her down the quickest, regardless of whether it is right or not. The sad part is because either the way my neighbour deals with her is harsher, or she picks up on the vibes, Lucy is very standoffish with her. Luckily I have a friend who isn’t put off by the hissing, and is happy to come round and just lie on my sofa when I go away, and Lucy will happily sit on her knee – she barely acknowledges her when I’m around, but my friend doesn’t get offended about that like my neighbour.
Had a good couple of days with them – when I changed the room the other week I moved some of the books from the bottom shelf of the bookcase and put a blanket on, they haven’t bothered with it, so I was going to wash it this weekend and put it away – one day this week Chanel was on it, last night not only was Coco on it, but didn’t move when I approached her to put her food in front of her!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #150 on: July 19, 2018, 14:17:36 PM »


Jackson Galaxy often talks about pushing a cat's "challenge line" but in a way in which you understand more about how to interact with them.

Sometimes, when what we know doesn't work, we have to think laterally, and try to figure out what will work with that particular cat (or human for that matter).    I don't think your neighbour quite grasps that.




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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #149 on: July 19, 2018, 13:47:33 PM »
That is a very good point Sue, for whatever reason, my neighbour just doesn't seem to 'get' Lucy, and always says 'I'd do x', regardless of the fact I said I tried that and it doesn't work, it makes the situation worse - I dread to think what kind of cat Lucy would be if she was with my neighbour. I am the only one brave enough to pick her up, and ignore the growling and nipping that sometimes comes with that, but I think deep down Lucy appreciates that.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #148 on: July 18, 2018, 14:27:54 PM »


Well, it's a funny thing Desley, but I've known a few people who are "no stranger" to a certain situation or set of circumstances,  and persist in a singular type of approach which is often inappropriate or counter-productive to the said situation or circumstances.  You can encounter something again and again without beginning to understand or harmonise with it.

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #147 on: July 18, 2018, 13:29:00 PM »
Not sure I know what Lucy’s hisses always mean! I know what you mean, but my neighbour is no stranger to semi-feral type cats, and you’d think she’d have learnt a bit about Lucy’s ways by now.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #146 on: July 17, 2018, 14:07:10 PM »


Moray occasionally hisses at OH if OH approaches him with grooming implements.  Doesn't hiss much at me though, cos I whisper sweet nuffinks in his ear, and sing his little song to him.   :evillaugh:  It''s all about the approach and the mood of the cat.  You know what Lucy's warning hisses mean - with the greatest of respect to your neighbour, she doesn't.  Instead she responds to the hiss having the desired effect, and keeps away. 



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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #145 on: July 17, 2018, 13:25:38 PM »
Builder came on Sun, he thinks it will be next week before he can start building it, he’s struggling a bit with the mesh. Coco stayed on the floor this morning when I went in, even when I fed them, so she ate on the floor rather than her usual spot and started eating before I left the room, which is really good for her.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #144 on: July 06, 2018, 13:46:56 PM »
Sorry Liz, not much help! Fortunately being hissed at doesn't faze me, unlike my neighbour - she was near Lucy last night so I asked her to stop Lucy doing something and Lucy hissed as she got near, so she walked away - when I asked her to try again, it was 'what, you want me to go near your hissing, snarling cat' - I'd watched Lucy, and it was a tame hiss, but I wasn't asking my neighbour to touch her, just interrupt her. She still hisses at me most days, but quickly goes to rubbing my legs/feet.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #143 on: July 05, 2018, 20:01:01 PM »
If its any help our Blue feral has been with us 12 years and still hisses at us as we place his evening treat on the chair next to him :)
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #142 on: July 05, 2018, 13:46:23 PM »
She often does stop mid hiss – she generally hisses when doing the litter tray (she sits directly above it), but I tell her what I’m doing and she stops, moves her eyes like she’s considering what you’ve said, then stops and settles down.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #141 on: July 04, 2018, 18:46:53 PM »
LOVE SHE STOPPED MID HISS LOL

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #140 on: July 03, 2018, 13:37:28 PM »
Yes, Paula, there is progress and they are responsive cats, it’s just not in the normal way. I offered Coco a new toy last night, she started hissing, then stopped mid hiss, I wish I had taken a pic of it! Chanel has finally been in the cat cube though, just the Senses circuit she isn’t bothered with, will probably end up going to my neighbours. 
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #139 on: July 03, 2018, 10:53:43 AM »
Two lovely girls Desley :Luv:, it does sound as if you are making progress even if it is a slow process.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #138 on: July 02, 2018, 22:05:16 PM »
HOPEFULLY WITH TIM DESLEY

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #137 on: July 02, 2018, 13:41:04 PM »
Yes, they do look very relaxed Gill, just a shame that it doesn’t stop the hissing! Last night was sweet, Coco was in the bed on the windowsill, stayed there while I read to them, then when I shouted her to get her supper, she actually came out of the bed!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #136 on: July 01, 2018, 23:35:02 PM »
GREAT PICS DESLEY AND THEY LOOK VERY RELAXED

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #135 on: July 01, 2018, 11:05:57 AM »
Finally pics! We put the shelf up and put 2 of the cat tree toys up, might do a third tonight. I knew Chanel would Gill, surprised by Coco as she was an adult when she came
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #134 on: June 29, 2018, 20:26:33 PM »
SO PLEASED AN AS THEY GET OLDER THEIR COLOUR LIKELY TO CHANGE. WILL BE GREAT TO SEE SOME PICS

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #133 on: June 29, 2018, 12:39:08 PM »
Had a great time with the girls this morning, went in and Coco was on the windowsill, she stayed long enough for me to de-fluff the place she normally sits, then I spooked her but rather than run to her safe place, she went the opposite direction and ended up on the floor, Chanel run to her, and Coco actually laid in a relaxed position, then I got the rainbow cord out and actually got her playing for a bit! Will post pics later. That’s at least the 3rd time this week I’ve gone in and she hasn’t been in her safe place, but it is the only time she hasn’t ran to it, so think we are getting somewhere. Putting her shelf up this weekend and a few more toys! Chanel doesn’t look as fluffy, wonder if it is the heat? Coco is actually getting darker, I knew Chanel would as she got older, but surprised with Coco.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #132 on: June 26, 2018, 13:06:09 PM »
The favourite toy appears to be the rainbow cord – it’s too long for the cat room though, so will cut it in half, Lucy was rather interested in it too! The den was actually hand made by a friends’ husband Paula, the boxes were built in his workshop, everything else came in pieces in my house and was built in the room, don’t think it would ever come out of there in one piece! I wasn't sure about the astroturf at first, but its easy to hoover and steam mop, and the cats don't mind sitting on it. He was a typical bloke and told me on Thur he was coming round to do it on Sat, but I hadn’t ordered the sisal, so that had to be put on after, would not recommend that, it was so hard, and we underestimated how much you use, so had to then order some more!
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #131 on: June 26, 2018, 05:24:09 AM »
I love the den! Where did you get it from? I have three soppy Tittentats that would love one of those. ;)
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« Reply #130 on: June 25, 2018, 23:15:28 PM »
HOPE ITS JUST A MATTR OF TIME.

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #129 on: June 25, 2018, 19:27:40 PM »
The den is too large to get it all in one photo! Still got a few cat tree toys that need screwing, and a shelf on the wall for them. Forgot there is also a window sucker toy, she hasn't bothered with that! She has barely bothered with the toys or new post. Might have to shuffle things round
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #128 on: June 25, 2018, 12:58:51 PM »
Typically Gill, she’s barely touched them. I got her a bit interested in the Senses when I went in at bedtime, and did hear a few loud noises as I was going to sleep. Purrs order has arrived today, so more stuff for them, Lucy got something in this order too (The shark destroyed her Da Bird the other week!!)
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #127 on: June 24, 2018, 21:07:52 PM »
CHANEL SHOULD HAVE FUN WITH ALL THOSE

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #126 on: June 24, 2018, 19:36:18 PM »
Thanks - obviously not where they are going to stay but this is the majority of the new toys for Chanel

 
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #125 on: June 22, 2018, 19:08:24 PM »
Sounds good to me Desley. :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #124 on: June 22, 2018, 18:34:05 PM »
I THINK THATS PURRFECT DESLEY

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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #123 on: June 21, 2018, 13:43:24 PM »
Spoke to builder, my enclosure will cost more than my neighbours as he will need to hire an access tower, and I want stronger mesh than she went for, but he said he’d clean out my gutters for free while he was doing it!! Just debating at the moment whether I can get a cat flap installed in the window. Most of the toys, the new scratch post and shelf have arrived, but I Want to clean the room before putting them in. Just waiting for the stuff from Purrs now, so Sunday’s job will be re-arranging things in the room for them.

Our trustee thinks we may be able to get the cost covered by a grant we are applying for, not sure if she needs any text to explain, but have written this, what do you think?

Last September, PAWS took in a mum cat, who the vets asked us if we wanted to ear tip as she was wild there, but we wanted to give her a chance in a home environment to see if she could be homed as a pet cat. 3 weeks later, the people who had asked us for help with the mum asked us to take in the kitten they had kept, as she was too wild for them, so we took her too, and both were placed with a fosterer to bring them round. They are quite content indoors and spent most of the winter snoozing in a bed under the radiator, so it would be unfair to put them back outside (and the ‘kitten’ may not have the skills to fend for herself, after spending the majority of her life inside), but they will still growl, hiss and draw blood if you get too close, so they need someone who is willing to give them the space and love they need, accepting they may never be able to touch them. As these homes aren’t easy to come by, the fosterer has proposed to keep them as long term foster cats, so if someone perfect comes along we have the option to home them, but will do everything she can to enrich their environment in the meantime, which is why we are applying for a grant to build an enclosure outside their room, so they have some outdoor space, and the extra stimulation that comes with that, as they are too nervous to be given unlimited outdoor access. 
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #122 on: June 16, 2018, 09:44:29 AM »
for some reason, since explaining the dilemma to Coco, she actually seems to be slightly better with me. This morning they'd kicked the blanket off the windowsill, Coco hissed when I went to replace it, so I told her there was no point, I'm only doing this to make things better for them, and she stopped with her mouth open, like she had to contemplate this, then shut her mouth. I'll have another chat with the rescue when we aren't quite as under pressure fundraising wise, but I don't want to wait that long to start putting things in place, it wouldn't be fair on the girls. I think there is just so much going on Gill, we are opening next week and haven't finished building the cat pens yet, so she doesn't know if she's coming or going.
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Re: Meet Coco and Chanel
« Reply #121 on: June 15, 2018, 22:22:56 PM »
WELL DONE ON THE ORDER DESLEY AND HOPE THEY WILL HAVE SOME NEW FUN WITH THE TOYS.

SEEMS TO ME THAT THE RESCUE IS NOT STAYING IN FOCUS AND THEY SHOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT YOU KEEPING THESE TWO, MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT THO

 


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