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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #87 on: May 06, 2016, 19:37:34 PM »
I'm glad you have been able to make a decision that feels right for you. It won't be long before Bonnie is part of your family  ;D

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #86 on: May 05, 2016, 06:50:31 AM »
Am glad you were able to make a decision that felt right for you.  Now you can look forward to bringing Bonnie home, and settling her in with Bebe, Bruno and Barnaby.

I think she's aptly named, as she's a little beauty. 

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #85 on: May 04, 2016, 21:56:37 PM »
Hi all

Well I took notice of the advice given here and after careful thought and consideration we have decided that we do want to take on kitty number 4 but that sadly Bella wasn't going to be it. We saw her again on Monday and I still had the same concerns. We decided to withdraw our interest in taking her on.

We considered further about the NFC mix kitten and the more we thought about it the more we know she's the right one so finally please meet Bonnie (unless anyone else has a suggestion for a name but it must start with a B - feel free to suggest any):








We bring her home on 15th. So not long to sort out the cat room!!

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #84 on: May 02, 2016, 19:32:35 PM »
If Bella wasn't in the picture I would have the NWF kitten straightaway.

In that case take Bella out of the picture.  To take on a cat that you're not sure about just because you've said you will does nobody any favours.

I can't help wondering whether what you're not sure about is really the advisability of getting another cat at all.  Yes you know you want one but I think what is worrying you is whether it's the right thing to do. iYou say it must be the right cat but in truth there are no guarantees that there is such a thing as the right cat.  You have to be prepared to put the time and effort in to make things as good as they can be, and to accept the consequences if things just don't work out as you had hoped despite your best efforts.  I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, and if if I've got wrong then please forgive me.  Perhaps taking a step back and rethinking the decision to increase your feline family will help you to decide one way or the other.  If  after doing that you still think the NWF is for you (and your existing  furries) then go for it and good luck.  :hug:

Hello :) you have a very valid point. I think we are very aware about the possible impact adding another cat to our household may have. We just feel we have the room and capacity for one more and our three have always been so good accepting new additions. I do see what you mean though...our concerns at adding a further cat is causing us to be wary of all the kittens we are seeing so none 'feel right'.... point taken :)

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #83 on: May 02, 2016, 19:12:22 PM »
If Bella wasn't in the picture I would have the NWF kitten straightaway.

In that case take Bella out of the picture.  To take on a cat that you're not sure about just because you've said you will does nobody any favours.

I can't help wondering whether what you're not sure about is really the advisability of getting another cat at all.  Yes you know you want one but I think what is worrying you is whether it's the right thing to do. iYou say it must be the right cat but in truth there are no guarantees that there is such a thing as the right cat.  You have to be prepared to put the time and effort in to make things as good as they can be, and to accept the consequences if things just don't work out as you had hoped despite your best efforts.  I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, and if if I've got wrong then please forgive me.  Perhaps taking a step back and rethinking the decision to increase your feline family will help you to decide one way or the other.  If  after doing that you still think the NWF is for you (and your existing  furries) then go for it and good luck.  :hug:

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #82 on: May 02, 2016, 18:48:12 PM »
If Bella wasn't in the picture I would have the NWF kitten straightaway.

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #81 on: May 02, 2016, 18:41:39 PM »
I think, given how undecided you feel, it may be better to bide your time and look around for a male cat, one that's about 8 - 10 weeks or even little older so you can get an idea of the characteristic of the cat, or find one that immediately speaks to your heart.  To take on a cat you're not sure about is a big thing if you get it wrong - not great for you and your OH but even worse for the cat.

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #80 on: May 02, 2016, 18:22:38 PM »
Hello all :) another post I'm afraid. We have seen Bella again this evening and she's so small. Only 5 weeks yesterday but just small even compared to her two brothers. She seems quiet but certainty playful with her brothers. Obviously not sure about being picked up and handled but I think that's age. I just can't decide... she's lovely but I just can't say no to the NWF kitten yet but I have to decide today. My other half piped up and said maybe we should get a boy as she wants a cuddly lap cat and we've been told females tend to be more independent than males. I don't know how true that is but I guess it's again dependent on the individual cat. I wish so much that we could take both but we just can't. So what on earth do I decide? Why is it that I'm not 100% sure about Bella? There's nothing I can put my finger on. It's so frustrating and I just don't want to make the wrong decision.  Sorry to keep going over the same thing!!
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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2016, 09:22:24 AM »
How are you feeling now you've had time for a re-visit and to sleep on things? 

I'm a huge fan of ginger cats, but somehow I now have three assorted tabbies.  Life does that sometimes.   :evillaugh:

Well I had a message from the lady who has Bella and she said yesterday wasn't convenient but today would be. So I replied asking what time we could go round and I've recd no reply. I don't know if that should be a warning sign or whether I'm intruding by asking to go round so often, saw Bella Friday evening for half hour.

So nope, things are no clearer sadly. :(

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #78 on: May 02, 2016, 08:53:19 AM »
How are you feeling now you've had time for a re-visit and to sleep on things? 

I'm a huge fan of ginger cats, but somehow I now have three assorted tabbies.  Life does that sometimes.   :evillaugh:

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #77 on: May 01, 2016, 15:00:16 PM »
Well update time. So we just can't decide. Having both isn't an option. We just don't have the room once they are fully grown. We have asked if we can visit Bella again today and spend more time with her. That way we can be sure about how we feel. The lady who has the NWF kitten said that she is in no rush to find a home for her and is happy to keep her until 14 weeks if needs be. She isn't going to let anyone else view her until next weekend so I am hoping if we can see Bella again today or tomorrow and see how we feel. That way we can better make a decision. Right now for some reason I'm leaning towards the NWF kitten but we started off looking specifically for a black cat, that was the idea
 Not a massive fluffy white and tortie cat haha best laid plans and all that.

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #76 on: May 01, 2016, 13:08:01 PM »
Just wondering why you aren't going to a rescue? They will give you more advice and if the worst came to the worst they will always take a cat back. Personally I would only get animals from a rescue as don't like the idea of encouraging breeding of animals. Is it because many shelters won't home to indoor only? I know this can be a problem as mine are indoor cats.   

Hi. We absolutely have looked at rescues but because we have 3 adult cats already it's very important to us we pick the right kitten to join our family. We are looking for very specific qualities. We have found not many rescues near us have kittens and those that do don't rehome if they are going to be house cats. We also don't like breeding for profit. But it's not the kittens fault that they are in that situation so we are considering all sorts of kittens.

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #75 on: May 01, 2016, 11:56:58 AM »
Just wondering why you aren't going to a rescue? They will give you more advice and if the worst came to the worst they will always take a cat back. Personally I would only get animals from a rescue as don't like the idea of encouraging breeding of animals. Is it because many shelters won't home to indoor only? I know this can be a problem as mine are indoor cats.   

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #74 on: May 01, 2016, 11:18:43 AM »

 :evillaugh: :hug:   I know.  I think I would take on another two if we had to, but that would be my lot.  In order to ensure that they're all insured, fed, watered and looked after, 5 would be my definite limit.

Wegies have a double coat, and it does tend to shed quite a lot in spring and then again in Autumn.  And we do find we have to cut the odd tat from Moray's coat, in spite of it being pretty low maintenance, so you'd have to factor grooming into the equation too.

Personally, I dont get too hung up on where kittens come from - not to encourage backyard breeders (which I abhore), but just because all kittens and cats once they're born need a home, so it's by that time a bit like closing the door when the horse has bolted.  :doh:

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #73 on: May 01, 2016, 10:53:20 AM »
Exactly and I think, for the space we have, 5 is just too many! Otherwise we would take all the kittens in all the world haha!! The lady wants an answer re the NWF kitten as someone else is interested. It's just so hard to know. I also read they shed their coat ALOT. One concern we do have is that we didn't see the mother cat. She was out. Should this be a warning sign? Obviously she did have the mother as the whole litter was there so it's not someone who has bought a kitten and trying to sell it on. Oh God!!! Haha we just went looking to make sure Bella was the right one....Didn't think we'd find another sweet girl.

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« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2016, 10:48:27 AM »
 :wow: :Luv2: :Luv2:  She's beautiful too........   :doh: :doh:

I dont think I'd worry too much about gender.  I admit we wondered about it too, with the girls, as Moray had only ever interacted with other boy-cats, but he doesnt mind them one bit.  I think whether we'd brought home males or females, his chilled and laid-back personality would've treated them both the same.

Well, yes Wegies do like to be outdoors cats, but because the kittens you're looking at aren't full NWF's, the chances are they wont grow anywhere near as big, and could adapt just as happily to indoor living.  They do like to climb though, so adding another cat tree might be a useful move if you did take that little one.

I think Bella's very sweet too, and I know how hard it would be to turn your back on her now.  Of course if you ended up with 5 cats, that really would put you into "Mad Cat Lady" territory.   ;)

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« Reply #71 on: May 01, 2016, 10:16:39 AM »
P.S 

This is the NWF kitten:



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« Reply #70 on: May 01, 2016, 10:12:51 AM »
Thank you for such a detailed reply :) Bella interacts fine with her two brothers. She was playing with our fingers and trying to climb. She was snuggling with her brothers as well. She just seemed, I don't know, under developed if that makes sense but then she is only 5 weeks old.

The NF kitten we saw yesterday was the only one left and she was the most nervous out of the lot. The rest of them were wrestling and playing but it took her a while to warm up. When we picked her up she did settle down and did fall asleep.

We have been doing research and it says that the breed is better suited to outdoors as they like to climb? Our cats are in door cats so we are unsure as to whether we would be the right home for her.

We just want the right kitten - Bella is lovely and maybe I'm just worrying too much.

I'm also concerned about getting another female and not upsetting bebe. Maybe it would be better to get a male instead. It's just so tricky to know the right decision to make. How can you decide between a beautiful cute black tiny kitten with fluffy ears and a giant fluffy kitten with a beautiful face. Both are lovely!!!!

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #69 on: May 01, 2016, 10:00:55 AM »
Well, I think the obvious answer to your dilemma here is two kittens  ;) :evillaugh:

Sorry, I didn't mean to be flippant, and I know you have two already, but I wasnt being altogether frivolous.  If you adopted two kittens at the same time, they could play with each other for company, and would be less likely to annoy the older cats.  It can sound like utter madness, but it can also work really well, if your budget allowed (and I realise it's not something everyone can accommodate)

NWF cats are absolutely adorable, (we believe Moray's ancestry definitely contains NWF in the mix, as he's NWF in miniature with a personality to boot) and they have a well deserved reputation for being laid back and companionable cats, so any cats with that in the mix stand a good chance of integrating well with other cats, but that is of course a generalisation, and Bella may adapt just as well.

I think you have to listen to both heart and head here, and if you aren't in a position to take on two kittens, then you need to think very carefully about what you do next.  It can be easy to rush in to acquiring another cat (I know - bin there, done that, bought the Gurlie T shirt  :innocent:) but you need to be certain that if things don't go well initially, you can work at it to get it to near where you want or need it to be, otherwise you could be setting yourself, Bruno, Bebe and Barnaby Jones up for a very rough ride.

I could be very wrong, but I think you're nervous about your choice of Bella.  How does she interact with her littermates?   Is the lady you're getting her from someone you can talk to about your concerns, or is she just in it for the cash? (Not being judgmental here, just trying to establish how approachable she is if you were to voice your thoughts to her).

I dont know if it will help you or not, but I can share our experience when we got the Gurls.  It was just after we'd lost one of our beloved duo, and my OH needed to have something to focus on.  We went to our preferred shelter, looking for a male cat, but they had none.  What they had were two absolutely traumatised 8 week old kittens who'd been dumped in a lady's garden in a cardboard box.  They were absolutely terrified, and semi-feral.  Hadnt been handled much, if at all, and they were wild.  Their eyes were huge and hunted, and they hid all the time.  Thankfully, acquiring them coincided with me having just come out of hospital and needing a couple of weeks to recover from an illness, which we then spent just quietly sitting in a small room with them, reading talking, and letting them get accustomed to us.  It has taken 6 slow and quite painful months to get them to where we are now, which is that they are much more confident, and will come for some cuddle time, but very much on their own terms.  If we need to pick them up to put them in a cat carrier to go for vaccinations for example, it's a full-on military campaign.  They scratch, bite, hiss and spit.  They go bananas.  They will like as not never lose that instinctive fight or flight reaction now. Notwithstanding, I still wouldnt part with them.  They're funny and engaging, and considering what they've been through, they're coming along just fine.

It doesnt seem to me that Bella is as bad as that, and I doubt you'd need to spend as much time socialising Bella, but you may have to spend some time with her on her own, if your other three aren't struck on the cut of her cloth.  That's true of the NWF Mix kittens too though. 

I dont know if that will help much, but I really feel for your indecision at the moment, and hope that you can think things through and come to a decision you're happy with.   :hug:


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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #68 on: April 30, 2016, 23:25:57 PM »
So we went to look at some other kittens today to make sure we had made the right choice. We ended up seeing Norwegian forest mix kittens. Beautiful little things but now qwe are torn. How can we possibly know which is the right one for our family?! We picked up and cuddled all 6 of these kittens and not one of them purred and they were 6 weeks old. So the fact Bella doesn't purr when picked up seems not to be a big deal. Oooooo it's so hard to know the 'one'

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« Reply #67 on: April 30, 2016, 16:08:18 PM »
We can't really keep going round, it's someone's house and you can't really intrude like that. I think we are just anxious to get it right for our gang. She seems like a really sweet kitten. When her mum came back they had milk and she was purring away then whilst having her milk. We are going to go see her in two weeks again and it's 4 weeks until we bring her home.

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« Reply #66 on: April 30, 2016, 14:30:16 PM »
Can you visit to play with them daily?  It's not too late to remedy.  They really need to be handled.  You can still turn it around later, but it could be more difficult.  You seem to me to be unsure about your choice, and that may be instinct saying this isn't right for you.  Only you can decide whether it's better to walk away now or keep going.   :hug:

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« Reply #65 on: April 30, 2016, 13:47:43 PM »
Well I don't know. She lives with her kid who is probably 13/14 or so. There is another cat in the house and they have a parrot but I don't know if she's being socialised with people. They aren't scared as such but you can tell they are unsure. They don't purr.

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« Reply #64 on: April 30, 2016, 13:32:42 PM »
Being scared of being picked up would, I admit, make me somewhat wary.  The kittens should be being handled regularly and growing accustomed to that.  Do you know if the woman who has the kittens is socialising them? 

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« Reply #63 on: April 30, 2016, 11:54:50 AM »
Not second thoughts....we are just concerned about getting the right match for our cat family. She's a lovely girl and starting to explore. She seems quiet and chilled but it's scared of being picked up. She is very young tho. Her eyesight isn't quite there and they are still a little wobbly on their feet. They are 5 weeks on Sunday.

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« Reply #62 on: April 30, 2016, 11:42:32 AM »
 :evillaugh:  Well, conversely, our two semi feral girls will purr like billy-o if you stroke them when they're on they're favourite chosen snuggy spots (my Onesie and OH has a fake fur jacket Malt uses) but try and pick one up?  They'd have your hands off your wrists and bloody stumps in their place, so I dont think you can be too swayed by that.

Are you having second thoughts about Bella? 

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« Reply #61 on: April 30, 2016, 07:50:57 AM »
Ah okay. I ask because I read somewhere that when kittens are cuddled or picked up they should instantly purr and not to pick the ones who don't. ???

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« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2016, 22:04:21 PM »
Depends on the cat - most can purr from 3 - 4 weeks old but many don't.  Why do you ask?

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« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2016, 20:39:08 PM »
Hello.

So we visited Bella today and she's now nearly 4 weeks old. She is so sweet but I was wondering whether she should be purring by now?

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« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2016, 08:32:14 AM »
Sometimes intros go brilliantly well from the first hour or so.  Other times it can take a marathon rather than a sprint.

We were worried when we brought the Gurls home, but felt Moray's personality was such it stood a good chance of working, if we could get the Gurls to begin to trust their situation.    Moray reacted a bit more unhappily than we thought he would, and I admit it gave us anxious times, but he was the absolute star we thought he would be, and came round to them within a fortnight. 

You're naturally going to be concerned, but I think if you take it slowly, and follow the guidelines if first reactions are less than favourable, you'll stand a very good chance of integrating them all.  I think it's reasonable to expect some hissing and raised hackles at first.

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« Reply #57 on: April 23, 2016, 20:56:53 PM »
Remember, how you manage the introductions is key to everything x

Yes absolutely however when we introduced bruno and then barnaby after about an hour of door sniffing they just got along. I feel we may need to be more careful with Bella?! I just hope it doesn't put out our gang too much as they are so happy at the moment. I'm sure once Bella is here and settled it will all be fine. I just hope it doesn't upset the balance too much! Am worried now  :'(

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« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2016, 15:44:09 PM »
Remember, how you manage the introductions is key to everything x

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« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2016, 15:42:48 PM »
Have a look at the thread "Sue' s cats" to see how our two semi feral girls have settled with our quiet, laid back boy cat.

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« Reply #54 on: April 23, 2016, 15:41:16 PM »
I can't agree with your friend.  I believe firmly it's about personalities, not gender.  And I wouldn't have chosen two female cats, yet I wouldn't be parted from our girls now, and I'm sure Moray, our boy cat wouldn't be bothered - he just thinks the Curlies are "okay" and that's fine with us x

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« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2016, 22:22:35 PM »
Hiya guys.

I just wanted to check, you don't think getting another female will be a bad idea considering we already have a dominant female?! They are all indoor cats. I've just told a family member that we are getting another cat and they said they hoped it was a boy because getting another female cat was a really bad idea. Is that true?? I thought it was the personality of the cat, not the sex that made the difference?!

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2016, 17:05:07 PM »
That's the trouble i like the idea of making things but actually when it comes to it, I'd much rather buy things. We only have one cat tree (large) and one huge scratching post but the kids (as we call them) are so good at sharing. I guess we will need to get more.

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2016, 13:44:51 PM »
Woohoo! It won't be long until Bella is home with you  :cheer: :dance:

I also missed out on the creativity gene - and the DIY gene - but, inspired by someone here, I did manage to put together a pyramid of loo roll insides. I hide dry food in there for Alfie. I actually have a box full of the things, not sure what else I can make with them!

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #50 on: April 21, 2016, 13:37:11 PM »
What about old chests of drawers - take out the drawer, stick a carpet offcut to the bottom and it can serve as a cat scratcher?   

Different sized sturdy cardboard boxes glued or gaffa-taped together to form climbing cubes.  Balls out of non-winning lottery tickets?  (We have plenty of those and the Gurlcats love them  :evillaugh:)

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2016, 13:00:09 PM »
I'm pants at making stuff.  Okay at painting and the like, but not creative, to my eternal shame.....  :-[  My Mother could make doors out of windows, but I missed out on that gene.   :evillaugh:

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Re: Long time no post!!!
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2016, 12:51:45 PM »
Yeah...need to start planning the spare room. I don't want to spend loads on buying thing, want to hand make things. Any ideas? I love the kitty city but £80?? It's a lot of money.

 


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