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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #114 on: October 16, 2015, 22:20:07 PM »
Can you remind us of Archie's symptoms Alison.  As detailed as you can and how frequent they occur and how serious.  May be worth reviewing your Purrs posts to remind you?   :hug: :hug:

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #113 on: October 16, 2015, 21:56:07 PM »
colonoscopy I think you mean, where a small camera is inserted into the rectum and then up into the colon. I work for a doctor who does these on humans ;)

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #112 on: October 16, 2015, 21:05:51 PM »
Oh dear think I have put the wrong word in :-[ So sorry :-[ It is where the vet would put a camera in Archie's bowel and take a biopsy.

He said even if they do this the results would probably be inconclusive so has left it to me to decide. Do not really want to put Archie through this unless I think it would help so now in a quandry.

He did mention a blood test too so take on board what you said Gill as this would cause a lot of distress. Will see what the poo sample shows up first.

He is very sleepy today so would think that is the injection.

He seems to have had one attack after another this year and at the moment 15 yr old Parki is in a better state of health :(

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #111 on: October 16, 2015, 18:34:11 PM »
I think a colostomy would be where they'd remove a section of the bowel Gill, so not something they'd undertake as an exploratory.  The only text I could find on it suggests that one of two types of colostomy could be used, but both would leave the cat with complete faecal incontinence.  I'm not sure what quality of life that would offer.   

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #110 on: October 16, 2015, 17:56:59 PM »
Only if it could be shown to me that this was really necessary but if its just a guess and a money bumper for ins purposes no I wouldnt.

Also what would be a possible find they would need to tell you.

I am sure they will make the excuse its just to check that nothing nasty is going on!

I refuse all blood tests on cats unless really needed which hardly ever are.

For Misa in the end, well quickly had to agree for them to do the works cos nobody knew what was wrong with him at beginning of year and he couldnt walk or do anything.

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #109 on: October 16, 2015, 17:26:18 PM »
Is that what the vet's suggested Alison? 

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #108 on: October 16, 2015, 15:58:31 PM »
Thanks Gill :hug: So far so good.

Will have top give Parki her treats when Archie is sleeping :shify:

Wondering if anyone would put their cat through a Colestomy as not sure what to do after chatting with the vet

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #107 on: October 16, 2015, 14:34:59 PM »
Hope Archie is feeling a bit better today  :hug: :hug:

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #106 on: October 16, 2015, 07:46:41 AM »
Thank you :hug: :hug: :hug:

Rosella maybe Noni has a bit of colitis, seems it is quite common :hug: :hug: :hug: In the past Archie has had a do then it cleared up on it's own

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #105 on: October 16, 2015, 07:33:03 AM »
Sorry to hear that poor Archie is under the weather again Allison  :hug: :hug:  I very much hope he starts feeling a great deal better very soon.

When I was poo collecting in our front garden last week I noticed fresh blood in one of the poos.  Suspect Noni as she has had it on and off over the years but no one showing any other signs of discomfort or being off their food.  In fact she is constantly starving but she always is so I'm afraid I'm keeping my fingers crossed and ignoring it  :-[

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #104 on: October 16, 2015, 07:08:49 AM »


Alison, sending lots of soothing vibes for Archie this morning.   :hug: :hug:

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #103 on: October 15, 2015, 23:59:58 PM »
Oh no! Poor Archie and poor you  :(

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #102 on: October 15, 2015, 23:19:09 PM »
Thank you all :hug: :hug: :hug:

Gill, it could well have been the visitors that stressed him out :shify:

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #101 on: October 15, 2015, 20:09:53 PM »
So sorry to hear that Archie is poorly again Alison  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #100 on: October 15, 2015, 17:41:59 PM »
So sorry, could it be your guests that have stressed him?

Hope he gets better quick  :hug: :hug:

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #99 on: October 15, 2015, 17:33:08 PM »


Poor Arche  :hug: :hug:

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2015, 17:29:29 PM »
I had to take Archie back to the vet again today as more blood in his poo. He did have another Do a few wks back when Parki had her dental but it cleared.

He has had an injection that will last a week and been given Royal C sensitive biscuits to try and I have a few pouches at home from Parki.

I have to take a sample of his doings in too. The vet will do a colestomy investigation if I want but said it more than likely would be inconclusive.

Poor Archie :( I have to take him back on the 24th to see how he and the diet are going.

Thankfully they both love the biscuits so no probs there.

If this does not work will think about raw

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #97 on: August 10, 2015, 07:39:44 AM »
Thanks a great help :hug:

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #96 on: August 10, 2015, 07:36:26 AM »
raw sounds like a great idea if Archie likes it.  I fed natures menu nuggests and another one (natural instinct I think?  still have some in the freezer) to Jaffa and Mosi.  Not tried Kito on it yet.  Mosi is a bit unsure about raw.  Must have another go.

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #95 on: August 10, 2015, 02:25:24 AM »
Poor Archie! I do hope he is feeling better today.

Yes, I feed Alfie and Cleo raw but don't have anything like the experience with it that Julie does. Alfs will eat almost anything but Cleo is a fussy little madam, yet I was surprised at how easily she took to it. It won't hurt to give it a try and see how Atchie does on it.

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #94 on: August 09, 2015, 22:24:31 PM »
Thanks Gill. You are right vet science has advanced very quickly, thankgoodness too

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #93 on: August 09, 2015, 20:38:43 PM »
None of mine will touch raw..................look at me as if its poison!

Take care Alison and hope Archie stays well.

Animal medicine has improved so much since the 50s and back then they couldnt diagnose all those things that they can now.

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #92 on: August 09, 2015, 15:58:58 PM »
Thanks, yes the complete meals would be such a help :)

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #91 on: August 09, 2015, 15:57:00 PM »
Alison that is a great start that Parki likes raw meat. Some cats convert easily. With others it's a struggle. If you do decide to convert it is certainly easy nowadays with access to ready made complete raw meals.
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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #90 on: August 09, 2015, 11:34:04 AM »
Wow, thanks Julie looked it up and saw it was complicated :-: The link is great and that would be the way to go.

The thing is Parki would have to go raw too as no good having biscuits out. Am sure it would benefit her too and she really loves raw meat

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #89 on: August 09, 2015, 11:26:38 AM »
Alison you need to be careful. Raw feeding is so simple, but you can read a lot of rubbish about it on the internet. Like every thing else really on the internet. It just boils down to what a cat needs. 80% meat 10% bone 10% organs. half of which has to be liver. Nowadays it is so easy because so many firms now do raw diets for cats.  This is a good place to start. They are British and do complete meals, also lots of information and you can phone for good advice.

http://www.naturesmenu.co.uk/advice-centre.aspx 

Alfie and my lot use nurturing by nature. I also use another place but these don't give the advice like Nature's menu. I have been raw feeing for 11 years. And I think Alfie's mum has a few years under her belt. It won't harm to at least take a look and have a think about it. The vet doesn't seem to be getting very far. Apart from emergency patch up jobs for now. Maybe raw can help.
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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #88 on: August 09, 2015, 11:14:28 AM »
Thank you Julie and Sue :hug:

Off to google raw diets, sounds good :)

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #87 on: August 09, 2015, 11:00:32 AM »
I totally agree Sue. Just google raw diet for IBS cats or something similar. What ever the vet has diagnosed Archie's condition as. Cats were fed by nature thousands of years before man turned all their diseased bad unwanted food into so called pet food for profit instead of binning it. All these terrible conditions, diabetes, cancer IBs etc were hardly known before the fifties when people started to pick up a can instead of the scraps from the butcher. Humans living on junk food become unhealthy. Same with cats.
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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #86 on: August 09, 2015, 08:39:04 AM »
Alison, am so sorry to hear this, and wanted to send a gentle ear rub for our lovely Archie.

I wonder if it's worth discussing a raw diet with Archie's vet?  Poor little soul.  :hug:

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #85 on: August 08, 2015, 21:11:59 PM »
Thank you both :hug:

Susanne not heard of Hills Z/D will look into that. Hope you have some luck with Mosi :hug:

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #84 on: August 08, 2015, 20:33:35 PM »
So sorry to hear this Alison.  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: for you and Archie.
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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #83 on: August 08, 2015, 20:29:58 PM »
Poor Archie  :hug:

He might benefit from something like Hills z/d

I am thinking of trying Mosi on an elimination diet but would do a novel single protein diet for him but want to discuss it with vet first.

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #82 on: August 08, 2015, 17:19:03 PM »
 :thanks: from Archie

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2015, 17:06:02 PM »


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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2015, 16:41:19 PM »
Thank you :hug:

Yes, why does it always happen at the weekend :)

So glad my vet started opening on Sat morning again

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #79 on: August 08, 2015, 15:57:46 PM »
Poor Archie! I am glad that he seems brighter after his treatment.

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #78 on: August 08, 2015, 14:51:16 PM »
I'm so sorry to hear poor Archie has been unwell again. Things always seem to happen at weekends.
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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #77 on: August 08, 2015, 13:39:41 PM »
Thanks Sheila. I don't know at the moment, should have asked :shy: At the mo he is on Science Plan complete

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #76 on: August 08, 2015, 13:07:46 PM »
Poor Archie. What does the diet consist of Alison?  :hug:

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Re: Blood in Archie's poo again
« Reply #75 on: August 08, 2015, 11:29:30 AM »
Archie slept most of yesterday and was off his food :( Knew something was brewing and then more blood last night :(

Vet saw him first thing and has given him Dep-medrone which will last six weeks. David the vet seemed very knowledgable about Archie's condition so will see him next time.

If after the six weeks he is ill again within a month he will have to go on a special diet.

Archie must feel more comfortable as he is more active now. It was another anti inflam

 


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