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Re: Awful news
« Reply #263 on: May 25, 2007, 20:09:23 PM »
I hope you manage to get an appointment at the other vets.  I completely understand why they don't want to go behind the first vets back as they all do the same job, but when it is a life that is at stake then it's different, and certainly when x-rays haven't been taken.  I can't understand why no x-rays have been done to see if anything can be seen on them, maybe the other vet will be more willing to take them.

Even if the worst happens, and the second vet agrees with the first, at least you will know you did everything you physically could for her and you won't be left wondering "what if".

Everything's crossed for you and Jasmine and the kittens for a happy outcome.

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Re: Awful news
« Reply #262 on: May 25, 2007, 18:48:25 PM »
God Karen - I've just caught this thread - have been on holiday and not on here much the last two weeks.  Am horrified at what's happened.  I really, really feel for you and for Jasmine too, Bless her heart.

I live in fear of my own cat being caught by a dog that visits our neighbour.  Some of the others will remember we've had two close shaves in the past with this particular dog, which the owner won't muzzle, and which she won't take to a specialist dog behaviourist.

As a dog owner too I'd be gutted if this had happened - through some fault of my own my dog injured a cat.  I can see why you may not want to report it.  I just hope the owners get what's coming to them one way or another.

I really am so sorry Karen.   I have everything crossed for Jasmine.  Maybe something's been missed and - well, I pray for a miracle for you.

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« Reply #261 on: May 25, 2007, 18:48:03 PM »
I am hoping that a second opinion (if that is what you decide) brings some good news.

I was also told the wrong thing by a locum at my vets (my vet was on a day off), I took Rosie to be PTS on the Monday by my own Vet and he refused as the information I was given by the locum was incorrect.

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« Reply #260 on: May 25, 2007, 18:41:42 PM »
Thanks for telling your story, smudge. I am aware they do make mistakes, and already have done with Jasmine. It was them - I think it might've actually been that same vet - who said her kittens were due within the next week, and they came five weeks later.

Grrrrrrrrrrr. Just rang that vet and they're completely booked up tomorrow. Only one vet works on Saturdays, she says all I can do is ring in the morning and check for cancellations. Even the receptionist gave me the speech about them having to get in contact with the vet she has been seeing.

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« Reply #259 on: May 25, 2007, 18:27:50 PM »


Thanks so much, smudgepickles, I really appreciate you getting your vet to have a look. And thanks to all for the info, support and good wishes  :hug:


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I wish I lived nearer to comfort you and to drive you where ever you needed just to give you that little bit of hope.I'm sending you a very tearful cyber hug . Do you have a friend or neighbour that would take you to another vet, I will explain why this is all worrying me just so you understand  :hug: :hug:

5 years ago one of my horses came in with what looked like the worst fracture in his leg............ called my vets and out came a vet i hadn't used before and he advised PTS well to be shot  :'( He wasn't my usual vet and I said "no" I need  to hear it from ***** himself. He wasn't on until the next day in the afternoon......... I myself gave my horse pain relief and asked this vet to leave....................we spent an agonising day wondering if we had done the right thing and should we have let him go as he seemed in pain..............the other vet came out and it was A VERY BAD ABCESS deep inside his foot it couldn't bee seen from outside and he admited the swelling made it look  like an abcess..........the abscess was cut out and treated for 6 weeks at home and he was fine. The vet was NEVER allowed to ever come to see to my horses again..  :hug:

I hope you didn't mind me saying why its just that they do make mistakes Karen. Your vet may well be right but a different vet shouldn't have a bad attitude with you on the phone, its your right and Jasmines. When I spoke to my vet they did specifically say they should have rayed her


My heart goes out to you and Jasmine

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Re: Awful news
« Reply #258 on: May 25, 2007, 18:12:41 PM »
So much to answer, so remind me if I miss anything...

I wouldn't say that the vet sounded defensive, just that he thought nothing more could be done for her. I do have a vet I trust, I took my dog to them, it's miles away and I don't drive. But I'd crawl there at the moment. I rang them this morning and they were a little bit off - I thought, although it could've been just me - and said they don't like to go behind other vet's backs, and would need to ring my vet to discuss it all. She also asked if she'd been x-rayed, like alot of you have here. They said I was welcome to bring her out to be seen, but if it's nerve damage there's nothing can be done.

I really don't think I could cope with her living as she is. It's obvious she misses being able to move freely. This morning she was crying at the bottom of the stairs, I took her up and let her have a look round and I think that's all she wanted. Meeko and Daisy were in my ironing basket a while ago and she was trying to get up to peek in it.

She's not incontinent, Susanne. Well, she has control over her bowels and bladder but is having trouble getting it into the tray. It's one of the kittens shallow ones, she seems to think she is right into it when her backside is hanging out.

Milly's mum, the vet thinks the damage has been caused by her being shaken, cos the only place she was cut was a teeny one of her lip. Which is all I thought was wrong for the first few minutes.

I'm not reporting the family to the police. It sounds bad but if you knew the family in question you'd understand. They're the type of family even the police are scare of. I know of a case not so long ago where someone wronged them and got an ignited rag through their letterbox. I need to think about my family and the kittens. There actually was a toddler there, Lynn. One of my two year olds was in the hall. But of course, I agree. A dog like that should not be allowed to run loose, and as much as I'd love to see something done about it, I can't.

She doesn't seem to be in any pain, Lisa. She doesn't have pain relief. Well, actually I'm not sure what her meds are. It's prednisolone (sp?)

It'd break your heart. She's laid on the floor beside me at the moment, with Meeko asleep at her side and Belle under her chin. She's so happy to have them near her but I need to watch like a hawk in case they try to get milk, which Daisy is mad for. If anyone saw her they'd never guess anything was wrong  :'(

Thanks so much, smudgepickles, I really appreciate you getting your vet to have a look. And thanks to all for the info, support and good wishes  :hug:


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Re: Awful news
« Reply #257 on: May 25, 2007, 17:44:54 PM »
as ive not been online for a few days ive only just caught up with this thread ,i have been thinking about jasmine and wondering how she was etc

the video of jasmine and the photo of rosie made me cry  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
this is a subject very close to my heart as my precious babe was killed by a dog at 6mths old
the dog is question was a staffie cross ,

i dont think these evil people and there monsters of a dog should be able to get away with the pain and heart ache they cause us ,
i never have and never will get over my cat being killed ,

as the dog ran in ur house karen u should report the people responsible to the police

they cant get away with this ,

that animal should of been on a lead ,
regardless of who owns the dog they are not any differnt to the rest of us ,they have to live by the law ,
if the owners of these dogs were really animal lovers then theres no way theyd be able to live with the dogs or there selfs after knowing what theyve done ,
u should send a copy of that video to the owner , and take it to the police ,

is jasmine in any pain karen ?do u have to give her pain relief at home?

i really do feel for u karen ,
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Re: Awful news
« Reply #256 on: May 25, 2007, 17:35:57 PM »
So sorry to hear the news Karen, it must be a terrible time for you.  Remember that we are all here for you no matter what happens  :hug:  I sincerely hope the vet is wrong and that Jasmine will improve  :hug:

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« Reply #255 on: May 25, 2007, 17:25:12 PM »
How does your vet believe the nerve damage was caused? A tooth puncture? Violent shaking?

How can he be sure there isnt a small piece of bone putting pressure on something it shouldnt?

I couldnt go ahead with pts without a second opinion & x rays. I also dont see how the other vets could diagnose/comment over the phone without even seeing her.  :shify:

I really feel for you being in this situation   :hug: :hug:


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« Reply #254 on: May 25, 2007, 16:44:06 PM »
Thats a fantastic website I had used before when Thomas had a bad tail.............. ihttp://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_cats_with_broken_tails.html the information is really good and thorough.............. I hope and pray that Jasmine can recover

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Re: Awful news
« Reply #253 on: May 25, 2007, 16:37:19 PM »
Karen thats good news.  I have been looking at web sites for any info that may help and it seems in UK most cats are pts with rear spinal nerve damage because of the way our cats live ie most outsiders but in USA where alot of Cats are indoor , they have ways to give a rear disabled cat a good life which is not very common over here.  Do we know if the spainal damage to her cord is damaged or severed? Heres bits i got of the net and i have no clue if they can help at all.

Diagnosis
A history of recent injury is important in diagnosing spinal trauma. In addition, your veterinarian will perform a thorough examination to determine the extent of the injury and to determine if there are other injuries present.
Your veterinarian will take X-rays of the spinal column to detect fractures or luxations.
A myelogram may be performed to determine if significant spinal cord swelling has occurred. A myelogram is a specialized test that involves injecting dye into the spinal canal and taking X-rays. Animals are often sedated for this test.
A CT scan or MRI may also be performed to determine the severity of spinal cord injury.

Treatment
Animals with suspected spinal trauma should be immobilized immediately. The animal should be taped to a board while lying on his side to prevent further injury. Tranquilizers, sedatives and painkillers are not given until the animal can be evaluated since giving these drugs will make it nearly impossible to determine the severity of the injury and will make decisions regarding appropriate treatment difficult.
Treatment for spinal trauma depends on the severity of the injury and should begin as soon as possible. Some injuries can be treated medically and others require surgery. For some injuries, particularly severe fractures or dislocations of the spine, there is no treatment available and euthanasia should be considered.
The goal of treatment is to alleviate swelling, control hemorrhage, alleviate compression on the cord and to stabilize the vertebral column if a fracture or luxation is present. Treatment for spinal trauma can be medical, surgical or a combination of both.
Medical therapy often involves the administration of corticosteroids, primarily methylprednisolone sodium succinate. It should be administered within eight hours of the injury to be effective. If given later, it can worsen the spinal injury.
Surgical therapy should be considered in animals with unstable fractures or luxations or animals with worsening neurologic signs despite medical therapy. Surgery should be performed by an experienced neurosurgeon.


Depending on the nature of the injury, paralysis may be temporary or permanent and may involve loss of sensation in bowel and bladder as well. Where the injury has caused the blood supply to be cut off, the vet may opt to amputate the tail and/or lower parts of the hind legs due to the risk of gangrene. Other conditions causing lack or loss of hind-limb function are pelvic deformities and spina bifida. In some extreme cases, kittens have been born without proper pelvic bones.

If the bladder and bowel are affected this will result in incontinence (uncontrolled dribbling of urine, uncontrolled defecation) or an inability to urinate/defecate unaided. In either case, the owner can manually express the bowel and bladder. The vet will show you how to do this. A build up of urine in the bladder can lead to infection which can track up the ureters to the cat's kidneys. If the cat is incontinent inbetween sessions, nappies (US: diapers) may be possible. There are nappies ("Stud-Pants" "Piddle-Pants") designed for incontinent dogs and cats, sometimes used by owners of stud cats which spray indoors. Washable bedding will also be needed and must be washed daily. Caring for a long-term incontinent cat requires effort and commitment.
Many cats have pursued several more years of mobility and good quality of life using a "wheelchair" or mobility cart. Initially developed for dogs, but now available for cats as well, these support the cat's hind quarters and tail so that they don't drag along the ground. The cat can walk, run, lie down and defecate while in the cart. They are also suited to hind-limb amputees. The carts are generally made to measure and if used for a young cat or kitten, will have to be replaced as the cat grows. Whether or not your cat is suited to a mobility cart depends on its personality and ability to adapt to a more dependent lifestyle. Fiercely independent, tree-climbing kitties may not be able to make the adjustment to a more limited lifestyle.

Although designed to cope with a variety of terrains, pet mobility carts are rare in the UK due to the prevailing unsupervised indoor-outdoor lifestyle of most British cats. In the USA, where an indoor lifestyle is more normal - meaning more even terrain - and a cat's outside forays are likely to be supervised, they are more common. They have been imported into the UK and some skilled cat owners have made similar carts (as a temporary measure) using the children's construction toy Meccano or plastic plumbing tubes. Home made carts are often in the form of four wheeled frames with the body supported by a sling. Although useful as a stop-gap measure while a specialist cart is being made to measure or while a kitten is growing fast, many home-made carts are too bulky, heavy and cumbersome for long term use.
One thing cats in mobility carts cannot do is jump. To reach a favourite chair, the cat requires a ramp wide enough to accommodate the cart. Although not impossible, it is probably inadvisable for the cat to jump down from the chair. Because pressure sores can develop at the points where the cat's body is supported (particularly on lifeless limbs where the cat cannot shift its position) lap-times, nap-times and bed-times are times to come out of the cart. Many cats are happy to remain in one place during these times, while others prefer to drag their hind ends around the floor. Owners need to watch out for pressure sores and also for abrasions caused by dragging the lifeless limbs on the ground.

British behaviourists have expressed concerns that a partially paralysed cat's body language might put it at a disadvantage. For example, its lifeless tail might be interepreted by other cats as a "tail between legs" fear posture, but there is no evidence that affected cats are at any more disadvantage than naturally tailless or bobtailed breeds.
In Britain there is generally more resistance to artificial aids such as pet wheelchairs. However, in the early 1990s a British Cat Shelter had a paraplegic puss who adapted well to a mobility cart for several years. Hector was a semi-longhaired black-and-white tuxedo cat whose hind legs were paralysed by injury when he was six years old. Hector lived at the Ingleside Cat Shelter who reported that his easy-going and co-operative personality meant he adapted well to a life in a mobility cart and his greater dependence on humans. He was possibly one of the first British cats to use a mobility cart. Hector eventually died of cancer, a condition unrelated to his partial paralysis.


I'm caring for a rescued kitty who was found last August with no hind end function (legs, tail, bladder, bowel). She has very slowly but steadily regained some function. I doubt she will walk, but who knows. She can now move her tail (not hold it in the air but twitch it and move it out of the way when her bladder is expressed) and "walks" on her knees - even tries to pull her hind legs under her to stand. We've been doing the same massage & range of motion therapy and supporting her while having her stand & bear a little weight on her hind legs (to provide some muscle tone). Although people cringe & sigh when I tell them about Jenny, they shouldn't - this cat is not handicapped in spirit and shows no sign of being troubled by her lack of normal hind end function. She's inspirational and a delight to have around.


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Re: Awful news
« Reply #252 on: May 25, 2007, 15:36:51 PM »
Right here goes.....

my vet suggests that a second opinion is sought. x rays will do no harm but  will show if the damage is pelvic. You have the right to go to another vet, you do not need these approval you telephone to make an appointment explaining the situation and the vets then request the notes and history of Jasmine from your existing vet.... they said that people do ask for a second opinion as nobody gets everything right all of the time

http://www.uk250.co.uk/frame/1408/royal-college-of-veterinary-surgeons.html this is the website they gave me ther is at the top find a vet list, maybe there is one that a friend has used and that you feel happy with using.

I hope this has helped rather than confuse yopu even more

love and hugs to you and Jasmine  :hug:


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Re: Awful news
« Reply #251 on: May 25, 2007, 15:26:57 PM »
That's a good idea.

Karen - I've forgotten what you said about her using the litter tray - is she managing to use it?  If she's not incontinent then that implies that her spinal cord isn't too damaged so the nerve damage must just be in her legs.  I can't pretend to know much about that kind of thing but in people it can take a long time to get feeling back in the legs when there's been a spinal injury or nerve damage in the legs, but it is possible if the spinal cord is still intact.  Has your vet said it's certain she won't regain any feeling or movement in her back legs?

As far as the specialist goes - what is your vet like with you?  Does he get defensive when you suggest it or is it just that he doesn't think there's any point?  Maybe he'd be amenable to the argument that having a second opinion doesn't mean you dont' value his opinion, just that it would help you come to terms with Jasmine's condition and prognosis if you had it confirmed by a specialist?

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« Reply #250 on: May 25, 2007, 15:11:28 PM »
Im just going to ring and ask mine.....................if he will heres hoping

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« Reply #249 on: May 25, 2007, 15:07:34 PM »
Clutching at straws but I wondered if anyone on here that has a good relationship with their vet could possibly show them the video and get an opinion.
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« Reply #248 on: May 25, 2007, 14:53:16 PM »
Hi Kare

I am heartbroken to hear what is going on, I know this must be a horrible time for you, as many others have siad here, you will make the right decision by Jasmine, thinking of you.

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« Reply #247 on: May 25, 2007, 14:46:15 PM »
I asked about getting a specialist but he just said there's nothing can be done, by anyone, for nerve damage. The other vets I spoke to said the same.

She's a bit restless this afternoon, doesn't want to lay still. Still eating though and bright enough.

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« Reply #246 on: May 25, 2007, 14:45:54 PM »
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« Reply #245 on: May 25, 2007, 14:42:43 PM »
Have you asked your vet about referral, Karen?  I dont' think any referral centre will deal with you directly as you always have to be referred.  But I can't understand why your vet would refuse to refer you if you asked. 

How is Jasmine this afternoon?

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« Reply #244 on: May 25, 2007, 14:37:29 PM »
I rang the Dublin Veterinary college, but they wont talk to me. They said they never talk to patient owners and I'd need to get my vet to ring them, which I'm sure he wont do.
 I don't think my head has ever felt so muddled  :'(

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« Reply #243 on: May 25, 2007, 14:23:27 PM »
What a heartbreaking time for you and poor Jasmine.....our thoughts are with you both  :hug: :hug: :hug:

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« Reply #242 on: May 25, 2007, 13:24:45 PM »
I am so sorry to hear that the news isn't that good. IF she isn't in pain, I would monitor her for a short while longer and see how she goes, just in case she can adapt, but if she can't, at least you have tried everything possible for her.
Michelle - sadly they aren't the only things to consider regarding quality of life, one of the major ones with this kind of issue is toileting, and being able to move, as it could start to impact on Jasmine's mental state, cats dont like not being able to be clean.
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« Reply #241 on: May 25, 2007, 13:02:11 PM »
Karen, I am so sorry to read today's news.  As everyone has said, you obviously know Jasmine best.   I do think that letting the vet college see the video and getting their opinion is a very good idea.   Thinking of you all like so many others here.
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« Reply #240 on: May 25, 2007, 11:54:46 AM »
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I would think if jasmine went on indefinately the way she is she would develop sores around her rear end mainly because of the way she is scooting along, even with great care over cleaning her etc  If this happened it would be very difficult to keep them infection free.  Of course a vet may be able to shed more light on that particular aspect but thinking of any animal that is partially recumbent and cannot move a certain part of the body then in my experience would bound to develop ulcerated "bed" sore type lesions.

Sadly that is exactly what happened to a little cat named Tessa that I knew about.
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« Reply #239 on: May 25, 2007, 11:27:38 AM »
Re the disability .. it is true many cats live happily with disablement (with caring owners) but i have to say a paraplegic cat is at the very top end of disability.

I would think if jasmine went on indefinately the way she is she would develop sores around her rear end mainly because of the way she is scooting along, even with great care over cleaning her etc  If this happened it would be very difficult to keep them infection free.  Of course a vet may be able to shed more light on that particular aspect but thinking of any animal that is partially recumbent and cannot move a certain part of the body then in my experience would bound to develop ulcerated "bed" sore type lesions.

As Tan and others have said, you know Jasmine more than anyone else and will do what is best for her  :hug:




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Re: Awful news
« Reply #238 on: May 25, 2007, 11:22:35 AM »
Oh Karen   :brokenheart:  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

You are such a loving mum we know you will do whats best for her hun. We will always  all be here for you both :hug: :hug: :hug:

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« Reply #237 on: May 25, 2007, 11:08:24 AM »
Oh God this is so not what i wanted to read.

When you say she has gone down hill what do you mean ?
Is she still eating ?
Does she seem free of pain ?
Does she seem happy in herself ?

If the answers are YES to the above then I think she still has quality of life.
As someone else has said, disabled cats can learn to adapt well in time - it might be hard work for you though.

I still feel you have nothing to loose by getting a specialist to see her, even though your own vet says theres no point I personally would want to try everything.

I am now away for the weekend so sending you much love and hugs, i will be thinking of you and Jasmine



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« Reply #236 on: May 25, 2007, 11:04:10 AM »
Oh Karen - so sorry to hear this :(  I agree with the others though about her seeing a specialist.  It's not that I'm doubting your vet's competence but in a case like this I'd want to have a specialist look at her just to be sure there aren't any options your own vet is unaware of.  If there isn't then at least you know you pursued every option and there was nothing that could have been done, and that will be a comfort to you if you do have to have her pts.

How is Jasmine in herself?  Does she seem to be in pain or discomfort?  Do you feel that travel and prolonging things would be distressing or painful for her?

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« Reply #235 on: May 25, 2007, 11:00:45 AM »
Karen this is the most difficult time for you and Jasmine and our thoughts are with you.

Whilst sending all the positive thoughts we have here at the Clan cats you have to much as it will hurt put Jasmines need above yours and her babies - can you cope with what is happening - she will never be the same and this involves a lot of work and the anguish that it can cause.


Whatever you decide she is your baby and we can only do our best and sometimes it is not enough but I'm sure you have support here and in your own heart you will know wht is best for her

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« Reply #234 on: May 25, 2007, 10:48:36 AM »
So sorry she is deterioting karen.  Personally i would phone a veterinary college and explain the circumstanses and say YOU UNDERSTAND that nerve damage cant be fixed but you'd atleast like a more informed diagnoses before making the final decision.  Having said that i am now thinking, is it fair to put jasmine through travelling, tests and procedures etc just to "confirm" what may be becoming more and more obvious.

I have to confess i did not have a good feeling after seeing the video.   I am grateful however that she is not feeling pain  :hug:

Re the reporting, my thoughts are exactly like rosiesmum and my biggest concern is that this dog entered a strange house which could have indeed been a toddler in the hall not a cat.  I am sure the police would treat this alot differently than had the dog attacked jasmine in a garden.


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« Reply #233 on: May 25, 2007, 10:45:40 AM »
I don't think it's a bank holiday here, Yvonne. The vet is open.

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« Reply #232 on: May 25, 2007, 10:40:26 AM »
Karen my heart goes out to you, so sorry.

However, I do not think that much will happen on Monday, if you leave it until then, dont forget that it is a Bank Holiday.
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« Reply #231 on: May 25, 2007, 10:34:22 AM »
I agree re a specialist.

I would also say that if she's not in pain, I wouldn't want to PTS.  There are plenty of disabled cats that live a happy life. Teresa & others would be able to advise on this. I'm so sorry Karen
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« Reply #230 on: May 25, 2007, 10:32:28 AM »
http://www.ahis.org/Ukvetsch.html this is for the one in Dublin

Each and everyone of us will be thinking of you and Jasmine it such  a shame especially as she is sooo beautiful and she has a wonderful meowmy

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« Reply #229 on: May 25, 2007, 10:30:19 AM »
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Maybe give the veterinary college a call and send them by email the video you have of Jasmine and explain your terrible dilema they may be able to advise. Also mention she hasnt been x rayed............poor little darling she is and you

That is a good idea, at least then if it is confirmed that nothing can be done, you know you have done everything possible.
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« Reply #228 on: May 25, 2007, 10:28:42 AM »
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I'm wondering if the vet is right. I've noticed her going downhill myself. This morning she had pooped on the floor and trailed herself through it. I wonder if I'm just delaying the inevitable and just making things harder on her and myself. Surely all those vets can't be wrong.

In that case then I would think that the vet may be right, I do understand though that often we clutch at straws. All I can say is that all my and I am sure all the posters thoughts are with you at this sad time. Many of us have needed  to make such decisions and it is never easy, but we do it as it is in our little ones best interest.
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« Reply #227 on: May 25, 2007, 10:25:35 AM »
I'm wondering if the vet is right. I've noticed her going downhill myself. This morning she had pooped on the floor and trailed herself through it. I wonder if I'm just delaying the inevitable and just making things harder on her and myself. Surely all those vets can't be wrong.


I can only imagine how your heart must be breaking and can only send you my best wishes.

Maybe give the veterinary college a call and send them by email the video you have of Jasmine and explain your terrible dilema they may be able to advise. Also mention she hasnt been x rayed............poor little darling she is and you

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« Reply #226 on: May 25, 2007, 10:23:19 AM »
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My heart's broke, don't know what to do now  

I am so sorry.

I think that before I made the decision for perhaps the final act of kindness, I would insist on an x-ray and also contact one of the university's for advice. Have you searched the internet for advice?
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« Reply #225 on: May 25, 2007, 10:19:41 AM »
I'm wondering if the vet is right. I've noticed her going downhill myself. This morning she had pooped on the floor and trailed herself through it. I wonder if I'm just delaying the inevitable and just making things harder on her and myself. Surely all those vets can't be wrong.

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« Reply #224 on: May 25, 2007, 10:12:02 AM »
I am sorry to hear that too.  I hope that some of the more expert people will be able to advise: Im thinking of you both and hoping so much that Jasmine will confound the vet.

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