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SamMewl:
i have been in a similar situation- a very upset lady could no longer look after her cats as she was havnig trouble with depression. Keeping her onside and talking to her openly about what was going to happen to the cats worked well. I reassured her that they were OK and that they would be going to good homes and also that once she was feeling strong she could always take on another cat that needed a home but that it wasn't fair on her cats right now. She was actually very understanding and because she did not feel i was the enemy she trusted what i said.

can you try and talk to the lady as if you and her together are going to get the best for the cats and kittens. if you can suggest a plan to her and if she can then see it as not only for the best but somethng she doesn't have to worry about she may well go along with it.

if the worse happens and she demands the cats and you are worried about what will happen to them, then try and at least let her know that you are there if she can't cope and maybe if she is having trouble you will at least know and maybe able to help.

it is very difficult in these situations to know how much to worry. supergoodluck xx

sheilarose:
Sadly yours is a position none of us would want to be in. I wish you the very best outcome, I am certainly not judging anyone and completely applauding the effort you are putting in to this problem. And problem it is, no doubt.  :shify:

Please come back for more help, I'm not sure what more I can offer right now but it may be we have more inspiration in our ranks yet?  ;D

midgecat:
thanks everyone.  just to be clear - i've no desire to prevent this woman having her cat back in the long term.  she was clearly in quite a state to be sectioned, and i think the cats had got a bit neglected during that time - but the cat who is with me surely wouldn't be so friendly and chilled if she'd been mistreated to any extent.   

i think my fears are that the cat's return to her won't be planned and managed carefully - ie. when the woman is in a good enough head space, and housing space to be able to take them, and the kittens are born and old enough to be moved, and there is a clear plan in place for them to be spayed/neutered and support for the woman should she need it for looking after the cats.  i want her to be able to have the cat back ultimately and have whatever support she needs to care for her.  my fear is that the turns up on my doorstep when she's neither in a good space mentally or has adequate housing, and demands the cat (and kittens) back.

sheilarose:
I too have a family member who was sectioned for several months having become demonised - in her mind. She is now stable and healthy again, thankfully, but we went through a very frightening time with her when she was ill.

The question here, surely, is that the woman mistreated her cats before not because she was bad, but because she was ill? So if she has recovered fully, then shouldn't she be given the chance to have her pet back?

Also, I understand that it would need to be her decision to have the cat spayed, but has anyone thought to ask for her pemission to terminate the pregnancy if it is in early stages? It's this sort of objective thinking that gets lost in the emotional upheaval when things are not black and white.

Not sure what the Mental Health Panel could do about this. They won't discuss the personal situation of a client - if indeed she is under the care of the Local Authority - with anyone outside the immediate family. But if her cat is important to her she may well listen to reason about her future care, and in fact welcome an offer of support from you and your friends.

Rosella moggy:
When my brother took a turn for the worse with his mental health, approx 15 years ago, he had a stay in hospital.  We chatted about it the other day as "his" cat Susan was sadly pts aged 18 last week after living with my mom for the last 15 years.

At the time, he was absolutely dead against taking Susan from his flat even though he had not been caring for her properly before his hospital admission and 2 of my brothers were having to cross the city twice a day to feed her.  Eventually my eldest brother rang him and told him they were taking Susan whatever he said and gave him no choice.  He now freely admits that was the right thing to do and he wasn't thinking straight at the time as he was ill. 

It's such a difficult situation but am wondering if perhaps this lady has any family members that she trusts for advice?  Failing that, I'm afraid I would do all I could to protect the cat and kittens especially as the cat was not being cared for properly by this lady.  Hopefully the social worker has had experience of kittens but if not I would strongly emphasise how much hard work they can be as Helen said.

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