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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2021, 17:09:12 PM »
I think in our times - any online shop

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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2021, 12:36:58 PM »
Is Katkin the subscription one?  I’ve heard good things about it but would be put off by having to subscribe and buy so much.  If I could just buy the odd meal I would try it.  My cats are mostly raw fed so I would only feed the odd meal.
I agree totally Susanne. Bubz can be a very difficult feline if she opts not to eat food that she's been happily eating for ages.. The price put me of even trying it
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2021, 11:30:26 AM »
Is Katkin the subscription one?  I’ve heard good things about it but would be put off by having to subscribe and buy so much.  If I could just buy the odd meal I would try it.  My cats are mostly raw fed so I would only feed the odd meal.

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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2021, 11:12:37 AM »
sorry to bring  this up again but I was tempted by Katkin (no S at end of name) but when I saw the price I was instantly un-tempted, but is Katkins the same as Katkin?
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2006, 17:17:21 PM »
Im awaiting response form Natures Menu & Town & Country who make Hi Life. I cant email Nutro, its snail mail or phone, i really dont do call centres    :censored:   so i cant follow this up!

Theres alot of cats with natural CRF who could test foods, they tend to have regular bloods done so it wouldnt be an additional nasty for the cat, shame the companies dont see it this way!


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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2006, 08:42:18 AM »
Milly's Mum - yeah, I've read all the stuff about the Iams tests, wouldn't touch them or anything they go near with a bargepole now. I don't mind animal testing if it's stuff like some of the FIV tests in the States - take an animal that's already ill and see if you can cure it (provided it's done humanely obviously) - but some of the stuff Iams commissioned to see if their food was working was horrific. (e.g. deliberately give cat kidney problems, then feed it Iams, then kill & dissect it to see if the food helped - in some cases dissect while alive).

Does anyone know if Nutro is OK? Picked some up for the pooch the other day to keep her going until the next Trophy delivery. I know they've just got natural stuff in, it's the testing bit I'm not sure of..
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2006, 18:02:14 PM »
Magpie (in my avator) was involved in whiskas taste tests.  I can't remember how I got involved but I think I answered a questionnaire at some point about cat food and they emailed me to ask if I (and one of my cats!) would take part in taste tests for the new, improved whiskas!  They sent some tins and I had to feed him a different one every day then fill in a short questionnaire about how long he took to eat it etc.  :feedme:  He did it twice and certainly liked it.  I hardly every fed it to him though after the tests  :no:

Yeh - most companies do taste tests so it's knowing who does invasive testing and who just does taste testing.

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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2006, 17:36:36 PM »
Em- Whiskas have food trial venues where they let people see what goes on. Its the labs commisioned by the parent companies who are hiding their activities.
I accept that taste tests are neccessary,(those cats are the lucky ones) its the mutilation that isn't.

Susanne- I used this email and its yet to be returned(or answered) sales@naturesmenu.co.uk

Rebecca- Yes its the <lack of> welfare in Thailand/China that bothers me!


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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2006, 14:53:06 PM »
I requested some free samples from Trophy and am still waiting  :shify:  So not very impressed. 

Must just be that I've got a really good local franchise then - did you request by e-mail or by phone? My sis requested samples by e-mail and still hasn't had them. With mine, I got the samples really quickly and a follow up phone call a week after that. Might be worth phoning?

It's also worth bearing in mind that BUAV rates Whiskas as a company that tests on animals, but the "testing" involves keeping the cats in a well-looked after cattery where they have a lot of freedom to wander round, and they get to test the food, toys, beds...and I think the food isn't even given to the cats if the human testers don't like it! I believe the same is true of Pedigree/Spiller but I can't remember. BUAV's guidelines are very strict... so I think people should make-up their own minds really, it has to be down to what you can get hold of and afford, not to mention what your pets will eat. Guess I'm just really lucky!:D
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2006, 14:41:13 PM »
I requested some free samples from Trophy and am still waiting  :shify:  So not very impressed.  The problem is if you avoid products that are owned by companies that test you are left with a very restricted choice, none of which seem to be readily available (mail order is not an option for me for main food) and most seem to be dry food which I feed very little of.

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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2006, 10:57:44 AM »
Hi guys

THought I'd mention that I had the same questions about 6 months ago. After ferreting around I moved my furries onto Trophy and haven't looked back. The premuim biscuits are £7.50 for 2 kilos which is comparable to other premium brands and the cats love them - all natural ingredients and my beasties are lovely and shiny and healthy. Trophy deliver free to your door and will do a nutrition consultation if you want, and they provide samples. Only thing to watch out for is that you really have to keep an eye on how much they're eating and only serve the correct amount - they're so tasty that the cats demand more straight after they've finished!! (means the bowls are ALWAYS clean though!!) :D:D

Don't know about other franchises, but ours (based in Swadlincote) is great, and they also sell lots of toys, beds, bowls etc etc and do microchipping.

I e-mailed BUAV about JWB when I was looking around and they said that, although JWB is historically against animal cruelty and contains only natural ingredients, they are now own by a company which does not have an anti-cruelty policy.

I also asked my vet about the benefits of 'special' dietary biscuits e.g. Hills, and he said that provided your cat is on a good quality natural food and gets enough water and exercise, they should be fine - and if they're on it from early enough it should help them stay free of stuff like kidney disease and diabetes.
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2006, 09:16:15 AM »
Milly's mum - if you get a reply from natures menu can you pm me the email addy you used?  I tried to email them a few weeks ago about something else via the contact email on their website but it came back to me as undelivered.

Rebecca/Milly's mum - applaws say their meat is organic and that their fish is dolphin friendly so I'd trust them (as much as anyone else) that it is cruelty free

http://www.mpmproducts.co.uk/?in_section=applaws&page=applaws
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2006, 00:26:18 AM »
Does it bother you 'cos of potential Thai animal welfare concerns, Milly's Mum?  :scared:
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2006, 16:51:06 PM »
I have emailled Natures Menu and await their reply!    :evillaugh:

Applaws/Almo are made with Thai chicken    :sick:  which at times bothers me

Im gonna email Town & Country too....


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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2006, 14:16:19 PM »
My cats love Applaws and Almo Nature  :P  Don't know about the testing on animals thing though.   I think hi life is ok too re the cruelty issue - it's made by town & country pet company ltd, or something like that.

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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2006, 14:01:03 PM »
My cats did enjoy the free samples I received.
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2006, 13:46:37 PM »
Does anyone have any opinions on Applaws? It looks pretty good to me...
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2006, 16:14:06 PM »
I dont think natures menu are animal tested other than regular taste testing, i cant find where i read it tho   :shify:   so i will email them to find out.


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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2006, 09:20:14 AM »
Whenever I have meat in gravy I always  mash it up completly.
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2006, 20:30:41 PM »
Wish my boy would eat Olli but he just licks the gravy and leaves the rest :doh:
He eats Natures Menu and I wonder if they test on animals?
Also he loves JWB; what a dilemma :doh:
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2006, 19:16:44 PM »
Salmon in parsley sauce.................I hungry , sound good  ;D

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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2006, 17:02:15 PM »
They make odd flavours like salmon in a light parsley sauce!  :Crazy:
My lot sniffed around it before cautiously eating the green bits, lol


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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2006, 12:18:07 PM »
Meant to add they make Olli wet food which is expensive as they only sell it in "ready to serve" bowls. They also make "classic" which is normal price food and sainsbury's sell it.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2006, 12:14:26 PM »
Olli is owned by Butchers pet food and they have a statement on their website that says they don't test.
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2006, 12:08:47 PM »
RC dont but are owned by a company that do, so as Susanne says its deciding whether to avoid the main culprits or boycott the companies completely which is a big job when 4 companies own most of what Tesco sell!


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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2006, 11:13:39 AM »
Thanks for the info catswhiskas & ela.


Im no sure but i thought there was someone on CC that mentioed that royal canin tested on animlas????



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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2006, 09:49:24 AM »
 :'( OMG!!! I didnt realise so many companies do test on animals......makes you stop and think doesnt it
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2006, 08:51:19 AM »
Royal Canin sponsered CC and to my knowledge do not test on animals
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2006, 08:32:40 AM »
I think this is the old testing products on animals vs products that aren't tested but are owned by companies that do test.? JWB do not test on animals (other than taste tests) but are owned by Pedigree that do carry out animal testing.? If you want to avoid all products owned by companies that test then you do have a very limited choice.

Yes you can get those treats by themselves.? Ive seen them in pets at home I think.

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2006, 08:27:48 AM »

 Recommended list of foods represents a reliable guide to non-animal tested products.

 Arden Grange 01273 833390 enquiries@ardengrange.com
 Burns 01554 890482  info@burns-pet-nutrition.co.uk
 Europa Pet Foods Ltd
 (Brands: Europa - please note: this is NOT Europa supermarkets)0845 658 0987 www.europa-pet-food.co.uk 
 info@europa-pet-food.co.uk
 Fromm Family Foods  01531 633 985 available from:www.postalpetsproducts.co.uk 
 Naturediet 08700 132960 info@naturediet.co.uk
 Pero Foods Ltd 0800 917 9697 www.pero-petfood.co.uksales@pero-petfood.co.uk 
 Top Number and Happidog 0800 0182955   
 Trophy Pet Food 01367 243434 www.trophypetfoods.co.uksales@trophypetfoods.co.uk
 Vegecat/Vegekit 01424 427393 info@vegansociety.com

Some of these brands are available from www.veggiepets.com.
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2006, 02:16:20 AM »
So it says on the uncaged site, they have a list of non tested foods too top of the list is Burns.
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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2006, 01:56:37 AM »
Mmmmmm soo? all the above test on? animals?? ? I thought james wellbeloved didnt?? ?
I didnt know felix was tested on animals... I also use bonio, go cat & whiskas.....not a hell of
alot for me to go to feed my lot ?

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Re: Couple Of Questions
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2006, 01:36:35 AM »
Just looked this up for you
Brands to Boycott
As mentioned above, the main culprits for cruel and unethical animal testing are the major international 'pet' food businesses.

IAMS / Eukanuba owned by Procter & Gamble
Hills Science Diet owned by Colgate Palmolive
The majority of pet food brands available in the UK are produced by two animal testing companies - "Nestl? Purina/Friskies" and "Pedigree, Masterfoods (Mars Inc)."

Nestl? Purina/Friskies: Alpo, Bonio, Felix, Go Cat, Gourmet, Omega Complete, Proplan, Spillers, Vital Balance, Winalot.
Pedigree, Masterfoods (Mars Inc): Bounce, Cesar, Chappie, Frolic, James Wellbeloved, Katkins, Kitekat, Pal, Pedigree Chum, Royal Canin, Sheba, Techni-cal (US & Canada), Whiskas. Pedigree also manufacture Thomas rabbit food and Trill bird food.
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2006, 00:31:59 AM »
Can anyone let me know if royal canin test on animals?


And.......


I got a back of james wellbeloved dried cat food in it was a small tub of fish & parsley
 munchies type things ..does anyone know where or if these can be bought seperate?

Naturally hypo allergenic fish & parsley

 

 


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