Topic: Wish us lots of luck tomorrow now updated with IMPORTANT BREAKTHROUGH? (Read 36053 times)

Wibblechick · « **Reply #196 on:** March 10, 2009, 17:36:23 PM »

Positive vibes and

for you and Charlie

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #195 on:** March 10, 2009, 17:32:01 PM »

Lots of positive vibes and good wishes for you and Charlie

Skiddaw · « **Reply #194 on:** March 10, 2009, 16:44:04 PM »

Second that. And remember you and Charlie have made progress- the external issues that caused the set back were unfortunate but you couldn't have done anything about it. Glad he seems calmer today.

Indys Mamma · « **Reply #193 on:** March 10, 2009, 15:35:11 PM »

a huge

from me too

how about you treat yourself to a lavender bath oil and have a soak? you've been through the wars this last few months

LeighK · « **Reply #192 on:** March 10, 2009, 15:14:43 PM »

Same here, big

From the boys and I

All best wishes

Leigh, Alfie and Frankie

Debsymiller (Rufus' mum) · « **Reply #191 on:** March 10, 2009, 13:40:47 PM »

Just wanted to send a

for you and a

for Charlie

Maddiesmum · « **Reply #190 on:** March 10, 2009, 13:37:21 PM »

Thanks for all your good wishes, support and ideas. I will keep him on the treatment programme of Sarah's for now and give it the best chance of working I can. I will keep details of the alternative therapies/homeopathic remedies though. Sarah's programme (pre meds) was starting to show results until we had the awful incident with the police. Then quickly on the heels of that came Sophie (next door's cat) bullying him plus a new unneutered tom stray in the area (Nigel is trying to tempt him in and will have him neutered and adopt him he says), plus bad storms, wind, rain, hail and my noisy lodger's return haven't really helped us much. Now I may have to have some remedial work done on the house but am trying to postpone it for as long as possible to give him a chance.

On a brighter note he has been a good boy since yesterday afternoon. No skitzing, some sweet headbutts and face snuggles for his mum but still noise reactive. Will keep you posted and please, please keep the positive vibes up

Leanne · « **Reply #189 on:** March 10, 2009, 10:08:31 AM »

Chrissie I am catching up with this

to you and Charlie.

The meds will work

Liz · « **Reply #188 on:** March 10, 2009, 10:01:34 AM »

Hope you and Charlie are both feeling better

here is another naturel tablet for stress is £14.99 for 200

Description is below

Scullcap and Valerian is a traditional herbal remedy for the symptomatic relief of anxiety, nervousness, excitability and travel sickness and an adjunct in the treatment of epilepsy in dogs and cats. Calms and relaxes without sedating. Can be used on a daily basis or as and when required for specific occasions or situations. Please note that epilepsy should only be treated in conjunction with your veterinary surgeon. Recommended dose: 1-2 tablets per 5kg bodyweight daily.

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #187 on:** March 08, 2009, 20:11:06 PM »

Do not give up and so agree with Mary...Charlie needs you in the right frame of mind to help him and you know he loves you as much as you love him

Liz · « **Reply #186 on:** March 08, 2009, 20:02:11 PM »

This is the link that I have been given - its actually an alternative therapy centre about 5 mins from where we used to live and they have been very helpful with CP cats, not sure on costs but it may be worth contacting them - Patricia swears by them and she specialises in the fostering of some of the most traumatised cats I have seen and although its usually a long haul she really has had positive results

http://www.rapha.com/

Gillian Harvey · « **Reply #185 on:** March 08, 2009, 18:15:40 PM »

Quote from: Maddiesmum on March 08, 2009, 15:54:29 PM

There is nothing more I can do if the meds don't work and I wont know that for three weeks. Whatever happens I have to do the best I can with Charlie's interests at heart, even I break my own heart in the process.

I wonder if you have a homeopathic vet near you? homeopathic remedies can work really well for stress related probs, mabe try that. http://www.bahvs.com/findavet.htm

maryas · « **Reply #184 on:** March 08, 2009, 16:11:39 PM »

No tears and no broken hearts just yet please - in fact not at all. Positive vibes in your house from now on please, or Charlie's Army will be after you.

It's just a pity it will take a long time for the meds to start acting, but you never know, you might see a difference pretty soon.

Everything crossed.

Mary

bonnielass · « **Reply #183 on:** March 08, 2009, 16:09:37 PM »

Chrissie dont think about what might happen in 3 weeks, concentrate on today,and take one day at a time,you have to remain calm for Charlie, otherwise nothing will work because he will pick up on your stress. Try the meds and alt.therapy have you also considered Acupuncture, that can also relieve stress altho i dont know where you would go for this unless your vet can recommend someone,just a thought but maybe another avenue to explore

Kirst · « **Reply #182 on:** March 08, 2009, 15:57:40 PM »

Maddiesmum · « **Reply #181 on:** March 08, 2009, 15:54:29 PM »

I keep crying at the thought. I am trying not to think about it but yesterday I was really upset and pictured myself packing all his stuff up and him leaving. I don't want it to happen but it is a possibility unless I can get something to work as all the stressors are totally outside my control so I can't do anything to ease them for him. I am really anxious and depressed about the whole thing. I have tried every possible thing I can think of, have read up on stress in cats, have every book published I think, have discussed him with three behaviourists and the vet. There is nothing more I can do if the meds don't work and I wont know that for three weeks. Whatever happens I have to do the best I can with Charlie's interests at heart, even I break my own heart in the process.

bonnielass · « **Reply #180 on:** March 08, 2009, 15:38:51 PM »

Im sorry your having such a bad time with Charlie, it must be breaking your heart thinking that maybe you will have to let him go

but try to stay positive and calm and dont think that far ahead, maybe between the meds and alternative therapy you can sort him out so you both continue to be together,will keep fingers crossed and send lots of positive vibes for you both

Kirst · « **Reply #179 on:** March 08, 2009, 15:34:09 PM »

Arms ,legs ,fingers and toesies crossed that the meds help.xx

Maddiesmum · « **Reply #178 on:** March 08, 2009, 15:24:57 PM »

Would be great if you could get the details please as the meds are the last hope we have of me and Charlie staying together for ever

Liz · « **Reply #177 on:** March 08, 2009, 15:19:38 PM »

I have been speaking to a friend who fosters for CP and she had 2 very traumatised cats in fact so much so that folks wanted to PTS but Patricia said no and took them home to her pens and she had fur tested and started using essential oil therapy on them - 9 months on both have been rehomed to a lovely couple and they are like different cats

i think it involves fur being tested or something similar and on awkward and very stressed cats my old branch of CP are now testing and taking advice from the alternative therapist and it has worked wonders on traumatised and scarey ferals

We used Margicol tablets for the healthfood shop on our 3 from Patricia and all are well settled and have fitted in might be worth a try

if you want toknow more about the therapy thing I can get some details for you

Lets hope that the meds kick in and soon both of you can have some more quality knee time

Maddiesmum · « **Reply #176 on:** March 08, 2009, 12:16:47 PM »

DAY 48 things have been really bad behaviour and skitzing wise with Charlie. He will start on his meds tomorrow so fingers, toes, eyes, legs, and paws crossed we shall see an improvement in three weeks or so. I have been at the end of my tether with him this morning

maryas · « **Reply #175 on:** March 06, 2009, 19:00:10 PM »

MEDS YOU WILL WORK

MEDS YOU WILL WORK

MEDS YOU BLOODY WELL WILL WORK.

Mary

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #174 on:** March 06, 2009, 17:52:09 PM »

If I didnt have 4 cats I would take Charlie tomorrow, cos he is so lovely

Liz · « **Reply #173 on:** March 06, 2009, 15:50:16 PM »

The Clan Cats and Dogs have all paws crossed and parent have fingers crossed for you and Charlie and hope that everything works

Maddiesmum · « **Reply #172 on:** March 06, 2009, 15:44:34 PM »

Day 44. Spoke to Sarah as the meds have arrived and she wanted to talk me through doseage, rationale and anything I might want to ask. We will start Charlie on the meds any day now (he is a little constipated so we want to get his poo back to normal as a potential side effect is constipation). They should start to work in about 3 weeks. He is on a minimal dose which can be increased if necessary However if these drugs do not work then realistically Sarah says, I have to think about rehoming him to somewhere where there is less concentration of cats. All the things that are stressing Charlie are completely outside my control and so it is not really possible for me to reduce his stress. I need you all to send us tons of positive vibes that the meds do the trick but the other thing I have to consider is that although the meds may help, they are not something he will stay on for the rest of his life and even if they do help now, when he is weaned off them what if he goes back to being stressed again? A horrible time coming up I think, please keep Charlie in your thoughts

Maddiesmum · « **Reply #171 on:** March 05, 2009, 11:26:04 AM »

I could scream I really could, he was just starting to calm down and Sophie next door's cat was perching on the wall eyeballing him. He ran up the fence and she smacked him one and spat at him which has got him all hyper again

Susanne (urbantigers) · « **Reply #170 on:** March 05, 2009, 10:17:27 AM »

Fingers crossed it does the trick for Charlie

maryas · « **Reply #169 on:** March 05, 2009, 09:40:26 AM »

I take fluoxetine!! There must be a cat version too. If they say it will work for him and it does it doesn't matter. All that is important is that Charlie is ok and you are not worrying.

Mary

Maddiesmum · « **Reply #168 on:** March 05, 2009, 09:01:50 AM »

Day 43. Charlie is going to have fluoextine. Please please if you know things about it don't tell me. I am anxious enough and have to trust in Sarah and my vet. Will keep you posted.

Millys Mum · « **Reply #167 on:** March 04, 2009, 18:00:27 PM »

Whats he being medicated with? I hope it doesnt make him feel too 'fluffy'

Its a hard decision whether to use drugs or not but its something iv decided i wouldnt do for taz, fortunately i can control his issues abit better now i understand him (a little bit lol)

clarenmax · « **Reply #166 on:** March 04, 2009, 10:06:15 AM »

I can't add anything practical hun, just wanted to say keep up the good work, yes there have been some setbacks, but I'm sure you can build again on what you acheived before the police incident next door.

Chin up

Liz · « **Reply #165 on:** March 04, 2009, 09:28:05 AM »

Toxoplasmosis initially shows the same symptoms as Corona but is cureable on antibiotics over a long period so if you are going to test then do this one to

Charlie sounds as if he is at odds with this modern world and it can be so difficult to remain calm for them - soeaking from experience here on that one I am Mrs paranoid if so much as one of ours sneezes or looks off for no apparent reason so know how hard it can be

Have you tried things like having indoor pots of Catnip, and cat grass - we have both and dry the nip from the outside and have parties on a rug and they love it

Just keep being positive and above all try and have chill time for you both

Susanne (urbantigers) · « **Reply #164 on:** March 03, 2009, 23:43:16 PM »

Poor Charlie

and poor you

I hope the meds help him and he can enjoy a calmer life.

Indys Mamma · « **Reply #163 on:** March 03, 2009, 23:35:00 PM »

oh MM

hopefully if Charlie has a few months on the meds and by the time he is weaned off them again he will have acclimatised to all the noises and stuff and be a normal, chilled pud that you wish would wake up

for you both

maryas · « **Reply #162 on:** March 03, 2009, 21:08:05 PM »

I think we would all be happier without meds but if thye calm him down and make him happy and by him being happy, make you happy too, then you have to go for it.

Mary x

Maddiesmum · « **Reply #161 on:** March 03, 2009, 20:56:48 PM »

Thanks Gill Liz and Janey. I don't want him to have meds if we can avoid it but Sarah agrees. On and off Charlie has been stressed since last August time and it is not good for him physically or emotionally to be so anxious all the time. We are using the meds to stabilise him and to give him a break from feeling anxious all the time and to level out his anxiety. He has been on Zylkene for months and it really isn't strong enough for him. I can't help worrying, I wish I didn't but I am an anxious person and the slightest thing sends me off. I know it is not good for Charlie but there is little I can do about it I am afraid. I can pretend not to be anxious and stress but I still give off the vibes.

Charlie is only 2 and should be having a carefree fun filled life instead of which he is miserable, anxious and generally on edge most of the time. He does not cope well with some of the neighbourhood cats and these things, like the police incident, the cats, the wind, thunder, fireworks I have absolutely no control over. All I can do is make it as easy for him as possible and that is why the decision has been made to use medication

Liz · « **Reply #160 on:** March 03, 2009, 20:46:55 PM »

I hope Charlie does start to calm down have you tried Zylkene - works wonders on some of our Hyper ferals when we first bring them in and its a natural product

On the coronavirus thing don't panic yet - we have Beijing who is a carrier and she is a bit loose in the stool department but our vets have advised us to leave well alone she is a happy soul and we don't change her routine and she is off to be speyed in May when she will be 1.

Also the coronavirus can also look like what Gem was tested for - can't remeber offhand but it shows the same symptoms and needs to be ruled out first - I will check gems thread tomorrow and let you know what the other thing is

Above all try and remain calm as he will pick upany worries you have - easier said than done but he has had the lap moment and that has to be a bonus gold star so

to you and Charlie from all here

Gill (sneakiefeline) · « **Reply #159 on:** March 03, 2009, 20:00:02 PM »

Stop worrying and you may find Lacto B that is a fine powder I am led to believe and will vanish in food, a better option and less stressful for Charlie.

I have just ordered some on vet uk for franta who has a tummy problem after all his abs.

I dont know what the behaviourist thinks but I think its too soon to go down the meds route after the police incident.

One thing is for certain you must stop worrying cos this is making him worse....he needs and relies on you and is a very sensitive boy so everytime you get all worried and stuff so does he.

Also you have not been doing your normal routine of being on the puta and stuff cos of your neck and I know Misa worries terribly if I do that and he keeps trying to take me into the study to be on the puta, so this may also be affecting Charlie.

Its all the innocent little changes that you dont notice but Charlie will

Janeyk · « **Reply #158 on:** March 03, 2009, 19:59:30 PM »

awww, what a shame poor Charlie I hope it is just a small setback maybe meds and the treatment programme are the way forward, best of luck

(I'm sure you will have tested his thyroid as that can cause over anxiety, eating and diarrhoea?)

Maddiesmum · « **Reply #157 on:** March 03, 2009, 19:42:26 PM »

Day 41. things have been mostly very bad indeed although we did have the magic sit on lap moment. We are now going to go down the medication road. Charlie has had diarrhoea today which we think is stress related. He is not a happy cat at all and his edginess has increased. He has skitzed most days (not today yet touch wood) and is generally anxious and highly aroused. He is trying to comfort eat too. Anyway has had two lots of diarrhoea, one this morning and one about half an hour ago. If still having it tomorrow Irene the vet is giving me the probiotic paste. I worry because one of the symptoms of the coronavirus is diarrhoea!!!!! I worry anyway! We are still continuing with his programme but he is not really coming back round after the incident with the police. Also think there is a cat bothering him but haven't actually seen it.l

thanks for reading

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