Author Topic: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.  (Read 3760 times)

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2008, 17:56:32 PM »
Pleased your MP corresponds with you.......more than mine does!

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #36 on: October 31, 2008, 16:46:01 PM »
I've been communicating with my MP Gisela Stuart who indicated that EDMs do not require a response but questions raised with Minister must be responded to by the Minister. She has said she will raise will Minister and copy me in. I have forewarned her that response may be "difficulties of scanners not reading all microchips". I explained that I spoke to a vet nurse yesterday who has been at our practice for many years. In that time, she recalls only one time when their scanner did not read a microchip in a dog coz he was chipped in USA. 

I have also resurrected correspondence with my local council as they were supposed to have introduced a pilot scheme covering 1/4 of Birmingham last year. Seems there's been a delay due to department reorganisation that's taken 18 months so far.

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2008, 14:52:53 PM »
Mine had not signed sent him an email will wait and see if he does.


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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2008, 11:39:45 AM »
I think you're right it is,  I've just had look
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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2008, 11:39:02 AM »
Oh ok *oops!* lol

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2008, 11:37:27 AM »
I received same email but didn't think it was same petition
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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2008, 11:32:11 AM »
Haven't read this thread for a while so sorry if I've mised something but have you all had the response from the PM's office...

http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page17308

Really dissappointing!!!

Again, sorry if i've missed the discussion!

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2008, 01:01:43 AM »
Well mine hasnt and no reply either....maybe I should have written it in welsh as prob only language he understands!!

The number signed has increased by 30 but still a very very small number out of over 600!

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2008, 23:05:41 PM »
Yay!  My MP has signed  ;D  Not surprised, he's a bit of a champion of the underdog ... er ... undercat ...

Edit:  Only yesterday I received an email in response to the petition to get this done - the usual stock answer about how they can't do it for various reasons and that they're not going to legislate  :-[

Those govt petitions are just rubbish - I swear that they only use it not to listen to the electorate but just so's they can get your contact details and identify any potential 'dissidents'.  There is not one single one I've signed that they've said anything like 'oh, that's a good idea, we'll look into it'.
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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2008, 20:08:31 PM »
My ability to get off my ar*e to vote for my MP at the next election is likely to be directly proportionally linked to the speed of his response.
So far = FAIL.

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #27 on: October 29, 2008, 19:39:34 PM »
I got a letter today thanking me for drawing his attention to it and he has signed  ;D

Most chips are ISO standards and most scanners read ISO chips so no excuse there  >:(

Also when i phone petlog up they search other databases, it takes them a few minutes longer but its done so thats a lie too  :tired:


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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #26 on: October 29, 2008, 16:48:32 PM »
and nothing from mine either
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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #25 on: October 29, 2008, 16:09:46 PM »
Nothing from mine either and I dont think he will bother

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2008, 16:06:46 PM »
No word from my MP yet, I'm not happy.
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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2008, 22:11:58 PM »
My typing looks like i have been on the wine ........sigh

Interesting about the chip in Shadow and I think they are just copping out cos none of this takes much time or money and the amount of money councils waste, makes this look like a a flea egg in the middle of a haystack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2008, 21:12:23 PM »
Gill, mine only arrived today so they are probably doing them in batches. I must say I am not impressed with their reasoning as the proportion of animals from overseas would be minute. And also, Shadow's microchip - inserted in New Zealand can be read by my vet who is not a registered vet for international transfers, so their reasoning is a little simplistic methinks. It sounds like a cop-out to me and I intend to point this out in my response to their email - but feel I should wait until I have not had 2 glasses of red to fuel my ire ... >:(

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2008, 20:45:08 PM »
i have not heard a thing from my mp!

do not think this edm is going anywhere though cos have just recevied the following garbage from the petition



Tuesday 28 October 2008
Microchips - epetition response
We received a petition asking:

“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to force Councils to Scan Dead cats for Microchips and contact their owners.”

Details of Petition:

“Currently, when a cat is found dead on the road - the countils in England and Wales send the refuse collectors to dispose of them. No attempt is made to contact the owners. We would like to force them to scan for Microchips and contact the pets owners.”

· Read the petition
· Petitions homepage

Read the Government’s response
The Government continues to support voluntary identification of pets - by micro chipping, tattooing or both - and having them registered on nationwide databases, but has no plans to make it compulsory.  Such a requirement would place an additional burden on a number of authorities which may well divert resources from other pressing problems.     

It would also be virtually impossible for a local authority, or indeed a normal veterinary practice or police station, to be stocked with all the microchip readers that they would need to read every possible microchip.  Although certain standards of microchip are recommended for use as part of the Pet Travel Scheme, the pet owner may use any microchip that is available.  This includes microchips that may be available in Africa, South America etc, i.e. microchips that the police, local authorities or a vet would not be expected to have a reader for.  Nor is there a national database for microchip numbers; at present, most manufacturers run databases only in support of their own product.




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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2008, 08:57:47 AM »
Bump

Oh and I've heard back from Gisela Stuart who says may be better to raise with the Minister, which she is going to do, as it's an important matter. I don't know anything about Parliamentary procedures (don't know how often EDMs turn into law) so have asked if she will also sign EDM.

I will also get my backside in gear and get back in touch with B'ham City Council to check progress on their pilot scheme.

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2008, 22:34:48 PM »
Not heard anything from my MP  :(

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2008, 19:45:57 PM »
Peter Kilfoyle has replied advising that he will sign it  ;D

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2008, 13:19:30 PM »
Gisela Stuart emailed me last night asking for my address  :-: 

In my original email to her I explained that last year I tried to get B'ham City Council to introduce scanning for microchips and gave her the persons name and ref number who was supposedly in charge of introducing a pilot scheme.  I spoke to him on the phone and he told me he had a cat and fully understood etc etc but, despite chasing a few times, I heard nothing further. Could be that they are already introducing something but why do I doubt it?

Will let you know when I hear further.

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2008, 00:05:18 AM »
Just emailed my MP and he does seem to sign a lot of EDMs including one on a vet hospital in wales, although he strongly opposed the hunting ban!

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2008, 22:41:28 PM »
Delighted to see mine Mike Hancock has signed......



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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2008, 19:41:58 PM »
Have emailed Peter Kilfoyle, will upate when/if i get a reply  :)

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2008, 15:48:40 PM »
Wow, on a Sunday - he'd get my vote  ;D

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2008, 15:47:15 PM »
Just heard back from my PM

Dear Ms Boyer,

I will certainly sign.

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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2008, 11:18:38 AM »
Any MP that actually works for the movement, minister, secretary to minister etc. is not allowed to sign a EDM its really only for back bencher's


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Re: Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2008, 11:10:53 AM »
Mine wasn't there so have sent her an email.  :thanks: J

Don't forget if you are sending the email via the link J gave to find your MP then it won't be sent until you click on the link in the email they send to you. 

For the lazy people amongst us (me included!) here is the CP template that you can use instead of having to think up your own!  http://www.cats.org.uk/newsandevents/edm.asp

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Mine hasn't signed it so I've just sent her an email.

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Mine has signed it. Just saw what else she's signed and I have to admit to being fairly pleased so far.

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Mine has signed it  ;D

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Mine wasnt on there either !!!

Have just sent him an email

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I've emailed my MP, Gisela Stewart

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Mine hasnt signed which is surprising as he is an animal guy, have emailled  ;D


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There was something in this month's Your Cat about this.  Will look it up.

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No I dont think this has been posted before and I definately have not seen it.

Where do you get the template letter from?

Only 59 mps have signed this which is almost none!

Putting this just for my info.......MP is Adam Price  http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/adam_price/carmarthen_east_and_dinefwr        and he has not signed

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Reminder: Early Day Motion about Cats - make sure your MP has signed this.
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 23:02:37 PM »
I'm sure this must have been posted before but I'm quite tired and when I searched I couldn't find anything.

My MIAOW I got at the weekend asked me to check my MP had signed the early day motion regarding cats and councils checking them for chips when they have been found ' on the road '.

Quote from: Cats Protection
Thousands of cats are killed or injured on our roads every year. Clearly the upset caused to families when this happens to a pet cat is very distressing. In many cases, owners will not even discover their loved pet's fate.

However, a recent Early Day Motion tabled by MPs David Crausby and Lindsay Hoyle aims to change this. It calls on all local authorities to routinely scan domestic cats killed on roads, thereby allowing owners of microchipped pets to be told of their cat’s death or injuries.

This EDM (no: 2079) is something Cats Protection fully supports – we microchip around 35,000 cats a year and our volunteers and staff play a big role in dealing with families naturally distraught over their missing cat or kitten.

We need your help to get this issue discussed further in Parliament and time is running out. We are acting now before the Queen’s speech sets out the parliamentary programme in November.

Please write to your MP today, even if your local authority routinely scans cats killed on roads. You can download a letter template to urge your MP to sign the EDM 2079 below. Please personalise and add your own comments to make it more effective. You can find out the name and contact email/postal address of your MP here.

Download the letter template to send to your MP

Finding your MP:
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/

Finding if they have signed it:
http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=36420&SESSION=891


I've emailed mine and got him to sign things before so I'll be emailing him as he hasn't signed.
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