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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2007, 13:33:30 PM »

Gillian: I am definitely interested in trying complementary therapy - how do I go about finding a homeopathic vet, though?  :-:

There is a list here http://www.bahvs.com/findavet.htm - or your vet might know of one, if you fancy asking him that is  :evillaugh:

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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2007, 08:03:04 AM »
Her tears are brownish reddish which I think is normal for cats? - I am always wiping it off walls, tables
& me  :sick:  :evillaugh:

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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2007, 23:20:00 PM »
I don't use the optex all the time as I think everything in moderation. I just use it when her eyes are extra weepy. They have improved since she changed from Iams to Hill's food almost 3 years ago (I think Hill's has L-lysine?) I have tried to see if there is a pattern to the watery eyes bit doesn't seems to be. They run quite a lot when she is in the garden, which isn't often. They seem to be better over the last few weeks as she stays upstairs to avoid Kylie. I would be wary of using anything as powerful as interferon considering its just a nuisance for her and not an illness. Her tears are brownish reddish which I think is normal for cats? - I am always wiping it off walls, tables
& me  :sick:  :evillaugh:
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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2007, 22:06:04 PM »
Thank you everyone for your stories and input! More than anything, it's nice to know that Monkey's eye isn't due to me being a bad Mummy... sometimes I just feel bad, you know. Like it's my fault somehow.

First of all - Monkey's eye really isn't that bad. Most of the time, it's almost perfect. But we all want our babies to be completely fine, don't we?

Swampmaxmum: Yes, Monkey had a complete eye exam last time, to check there were no ulcers on corneas etc. Eyes were fine (apart from the inflamed eye lid).

Milly's mum: In future, I'll try to ask for a specific vet when booking appointments as far as possible. But each vet doesn't work every day, so sometimes that's not practical. But for non-urgent visits, I will hold out for my Favourite Vet. (He really is the nicest man, you know.  :Luv: And he can give injections so smoothly and swiftly that the cats don't even notice!  :wow:)

Gillian: I am definitely interested in trying complementary therapy - how do I go about finding a homeopathic vet, though?  :-:


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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2007, 10:37:46 AM »
has he had a full eye exam done? You know, lights out, blue drops in the eyes etc as they can tell quite a lot. Is a specialist an option for you? I know how horrible the constant eye infections are and as the eye and nose in a cat are linked, as he gets older, like Swamp he'll start to have a chronic snuffle quite probably too. Poor mite.

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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2007, 23:20:13 PM »
Hi

I have the same challenge with my Garcia, although in between his bouts he doesn't have a weepy eye.  He is 3 and has suffered from mild corneal ulcers since being a kitten.  He gets a sore eye every 8 weeks or so and it varies from just a slight close to the eye to being really sore and inflamed.  It was diagnosed as feline herpes and the specialist I saw told me that while he could give me medication to try to control the effects (as no cure) that if the episodes were not that often that he would recommend we didn't put him on the drugs permanently due to the strength/other side effects.  I have tried L-Lysine in tablet form and can't say I have seen any great results.  I can relate most of the episodes to a stress related event - a fight, cattery/vet visit etc.  The vet knows me and Garcia now and so I have tubes of fusithalmic cream on standby to treat him so I avoid the regular trips to vet and then more stress for Garcia!

I know Teresa at Paws Inn had a kitten that had a very bad reaction to Interferon drops and they nearly lost his eye and so I am very weary of the use of these drops (although I have read articles on line about taking a tablet version), however I am by no means an expert, just aware of others experiences.

I also use chamomile tea (brew a cup and wait for it to cool until warm) and have found this very soothing for his eyes.  He loves being bathed when they are sore and I really believe they help. 

I also found that when he was having a bad few months that putting the feliway plug in on also worked.

Sorry, can't offer any further advice apart from understanding what you are going through.

I would be very interested (like you) in others experiences and advice.  I have also discussed the long term effects of this on his eyes as sense tells me each episode can't be doing him any good (or his sight), but the vets tells me that this is the best approach to take and as long as I ensure he recovers from each episode fully that his eyes are ok.

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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2007, 20:09:39 PM »
Check with your vet which optrex is ok as there are many formulas around now and some preservatives would not be suitable for cats.
I would request to see the same vet each time that way you get some continuity and you may be able to collect meds for him without having to take him in each time.

There was a post a few days ago about camomile tea, i think it was teresa who said its good for soothing sore eyes    :-:


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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2007, 19:19:36 PM »
  I've tried Lysine and can't say it helped as the problem's too severe.
What's the homeopathic remedy called please?

No, I think as you've found, lysine in isolation doesnt work for all cats.

Bearing in mind that with homeopathy the remedy is chosen for the individual cat, and the way that cat's illness is presenting itself, and Gypsy was also given remedies to combat overuse of antibiotics - the regime was silica first (to overcome the long term antibiotic use), pulsatilla for the profuse nasal/eye discharge, then the last remedy was Gypsy's similum (which is the remedy that BEST fits the symptoms/cat) which in her case was tuberculinum (think I spelt that right!).

That doesnt mean to say that a cat with the same symptoms would fit those remedies, which is why its a good idea to consult a homeopathic vet, or do a lot of research into the different remedies to find the one (or more) that best suit. Having said that - Gypsy and Suzie WERE both given the silica and pulsatilla, (very similar characters) but only Gypsy had the tuberculinum.

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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2007, 18:39:41 PM »
An ophalmologist (sp?!) prescribed Interferon drops for Swampy's eyes because he had cat flu twice as a kitten and has been left with permanent cold symptoms, including constant eye infections, herpes and conjunctivis etc. He was on at least 8 tubes of antibiotic ointment a year and the (human) Interferon A drops stopped it in its tracks.  However the latest research now suggests that it's not that good for them long term and is really suited for short, sharp bursts of treatment. It's also very expensive in England.  I still have the prescription if you want to ask your vet about it, just pm me and I'll send it to you. The vets also tried a Virbac veterinary Interferon drop product, Virbagen, which was expensive and didn't work at all well (on Swampy anyway).
He's not allowed it any more since his liver disease and his cold/eye are much worse.  I've tried Lysine and can't say it helped as the problem's too severe.
What's the homeopathic remedy called please?

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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2007, 14:45:28 PM »
L-lysine can help if the herpes cat flu virus is involved, not sure if it works if its calici flu virus though. It seems to give a boost to the immune system - and some cat food manufactuers (dry foods mostly) even add it to their foods now. As you say, antibiotics/eye drops will clear any infection, but its not a permanent cure, as you've found. As Mark said, stress can cause the flare ups. My Suzie used to get flare ups and Gypsy used to get really bad flare ups - but a combination of lysine and a homeopathic remedy from the homepathic vet have made a huge difference. I could never relate the stress thing to Suzie and Gypsy's flare ups though - both Suzie was, and Gypsy is, as laid back as they come LOL!

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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2007, 08:30:24 AM »
Thanks Mark - it's nice to know that someone else has experienced the same thing. (... although of course, I wish you & Willow hadn't!  :Crazy: )

I know there's not going to be a cure - which is why I want to know as much as possible about how to manage it myself, long-term. How do you find the Optrex works? I will definitely try that.

As I said, I'll obviously see the vet as well; but when they just see it as an isolated incident that has to be treated short-term... well...  >:( So thanks for your input!  :thanks:


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Re: Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2007, 23:05:49 PM »
Willow is about 9 now and still has runny eyes from having cat flu as a kitten. She has seen 4 different vets. We are told there is no cure. 2 of them prescribed steroids. I asked the 3rd vet if they would help long term and he said no. He said it doesn't bother them and the steroids will only stop the running as long as they are being used. As willow hates having her eyes done, I decided to stop the drops. The vet said when they are runny, to gently clean then with a make up pad and some optrex, using a separate pad for each eye to avoid cross contamination. He said if the discharge turns cloudy, there is infection and to bring her in. The 4th vet agrees with all this advice. I find certain things aggravate the problem - ie cold, stress.
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Weepy eye (cat flu left-over)
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2007, 21:59:04 PM »
As some of you might know, when Monkey was tiny he got quite ill in cat flu. He had two bouts a couple of weeks apart, and after that recovered almost completely. However, almost a year on, he still has a weepy eye.

It doesn't seem to bother him, he never tries to wash it or scratch it or anything, and usually it's just clear tears rather than discharge. Needless to say, I have spoken to the vets about it many times, and they never seem particularly concerned. A couple of months ago I had to bring him in 'cos the eye got inflamed - lower eyelid quite red & coloured discharge. (Normally there is no redness of eyelids.) He was given eyedrops to clear it up (after test was done to check cornea - no damage), and it got better again. But now it looks inflamed yet again, so it's back to the vets.

I accept that Monkey is probably a flu carrier, and that there might be some left-overs of his being so ill when he was little. My problem is that when I see the vet, they don't seem to look at the problem long-term. Ok, antibiotics can clear an infection in the short term, but I can't keep giving him that forever. Last time I went to the vets, it was a new vet I hadn't seen before, and although I explained Monkey's history (and he'd presumably read what was in the computer files) he was utterly convinced that after giving Monkey some eye drops for a week, his eye was going to be completely cured forever.

I suppose I'd like some advice about what to say to, or ask, the vets. Is there anything I can do at home to keep this problem in check? Up until the last couple of months, it was only ever clear tears, and his eye would mainly be weepy if he was having a stressful day. But now his eye's got inflamed twice with not too long in between.

I do like my vet surgery, but there's quite a few different vets, so I never seem to see the same one twice in a row. Which doesn't help, I suppose. Will they think I am annoying if I say I want to see a specific vet? (The founder of the surgery is absolutely fantastic, I really trust him and he has such an obvious love for animals - he's the kind of vet who speaks to the animal before speaking to the owner, and he'll squeeze you in if necessary between appointments. Just a lovely man!  :Luv:)

Sorry about just rambling on, but after nearly a year, I just wish I could do something to stop my little handsome boy crying. Even though it has never once seemed to bother him (and believe me! He's usually more than happy to complain about things!) it can't be nice for him. Although I am pretty sure he sometimes uses it to his advantage... he'll sit and look pathetic and go "Look Mummy, you made me cry".

So, what should be my approach at our next vet's visit?

 


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