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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2008, 22:23:08 PM »
She had full bloods done a couple of months ago which were all clear. He said the pale poo is to do with bile production  :sick:
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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2008, 22:15:25 PM »
The test for pancreatitis has to be sent off to AMerica, there isn't a test in the UK. Has she had any blood tests done to check her organs? Snowy never had pale poo's despite having high liver enzymes and then cholangiohepatitis, but the vet could feel her liver everytime we went (mind you, it was enlarged).
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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2008, 21:06:08 PM »
Thanks, I'll add that to my list. The vet is baffled so will appreciate any ideas  ;D
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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2008, 20:25:47 PM »
Mark it might be an idea to ask your vet to test for pancreatitis.  The stools my cat used to have with that were large and pale.  It is not common in cats and therefore vets do not routinely test for it.  Might be worth a shot as it is manageable.

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2008, 19:28:43 PM »
- he didn't explain why it was brown & gunky when it should have been clear - he said he only did it 2 months ago last.

Anal glands rely on the passage of firm stools to drain them. since Alice has not had firm stools for some time, they would simply accumulate the oils they produce and not be draining them properly so they would be particularly unpleasant and gungy, that's all. Nothing too worrying there ...

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2008, 19:25:46 PM »
Thinking of you and Alice :hug:

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2008, 18:40:25 PM »
Hope everything goes well  :hug: :hug:

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2008, 18:38:09 PM »
Aww bless her, squeezed and emptied!
I hope the ultrasound goes well  :hug:

She was not happy and sqawked a lot!  :evillaugh:
He thinks that could have cause the flicking tail - he didn't explain why it was brown & gunky when it should have been clear - he said he only did it 2 months ago last.
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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2008, 18:30:08 PM »
he said it is frustrating.

this is a good thing - it means he cares and is frustrated that his current level of knowledge is insufficient - he will be reading himself to sleep with text books tonight or I miss my guess. Best sort of vet to have, one who admits he doesn't know but doesn't give up - lucky you!

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2008, 18:27:23 PM »
Aww bless her, squeezed and emptied!
I hope the ultrasound goes well  :hug:


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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2008, 18:02:35 PM »
He said he stomach still doesn't feel right. I told him that I know when she is going to have an episode as her poo goes light just before. He said that points to liver issues. He said it is difficult to feel the liver as it's behind the ribcage but what he could feel seemed normal.I told him about her tail waving all the time so he emptied her anal glands which were full of dark-brown gunk - he said it should be clear. He said although it could cause her discomfort, it wouldn't cause bleeding. He has booked her in 1st thing monday for an ultrasound scan and said hopefully that will pick anything up. He mentioned an exploratory so I asked about endoscopy. He said they don't do them and they are really for upper intestinal issues and he thinks Alice's are lower which an exploratory is more suitable for. He said it's not as bad as it sounds as they open them from the sternum which is low on a cat,  to just below the belly button. He said the other advantages are they can get a good look and if it isn't obvious, they can take samples. Strangely, just at the end he said there is a remote possibility that it was the result of malnutrition - ie when you think of biafran children with pot-bellies when they were starving. He said he would have expected it to sort itself out by now though if it was that (funnily enough it's what OH said he thought it was)
He said, she is in no immediate danger so it's a case of elimination - he said it is frustrating.
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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2008, 17:15:09 PM »
Positive thoughts for Alice (and you), hope it is nothing sinister. :hug: :hug:

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2008, 15:39:11 PM »
Fingers crossed its just IBS 


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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2008, 14:29:03 PM »
Got everything crossed for her Mark  :hug:

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2008, 14:23:44 PM »
poor Alice, I hope she's ok Mark she deserves a break 

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2008, 13:56:16 PM »
Fingers crossed that Alice is ok Mark..... xxxx

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2008, 13:53:36 PM »
It's just that the vet said it that is worrying me. I know they can say things without realising how much they worry you. When I moved here, I had to go for a checkup with the nurse when I signed on with my doctor. The nurse said she thought I had a heart murmur but it might be the stethoscope as she hadn't used one like it before. A week of worrying later, the doctor listened to my chest and laughed  :-[

I just want her better  :Luv2:
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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2008, 13:49:33 PM »
Get the exam done first Mark, don't stress yourself just yet. If it is a tumour then you know what to deal with, but if its an intolerance to certain foods you will have stressed yourself out early.  I know its easier said that done. When Lexy had the bladder stones I had visions of all sorts of cancers and diseases wrong with her and was in tears for days before her op. Felt silly after  :sneaky:

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2008, 13:46:06 PM »
an endoscopy should pick up on a tumour if there is one, .but seems more likley a food related thing to me. Good luck. :hug:

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2008, 13:42:11 PM »
Sharon has spoken to Isobel and she said a cat was brought into her place with similar symptoms and his bowel was severely inflamed etc - it turned out that he had a food intolerance and after a few weeks on special food, he was better. Sharon said they need to explore all those things before they think about anything radical. Her tummy is hard and swollen. I just keep thinking back to the vet saying his gut feeling was a stomach tumour  :'(
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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2008, 13:38:22 PM »
Keeping you both in my thoughts. Big :cuddle: for Alice. Let's hope for the best now.

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2008, 13:33:11 PM »
Poor Alice, keeping fingers and toes crossed here  :hug:

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2008, 13:26:31 PM »
... we need to get to the bottom of what if wrong with her.

so to speak  :rofl: :rofl: but I agree, and endoscopy is less traumatic for her, so go with that option if it is available ... :hug:

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2008, 13:21:39 PM »
I have spoken to Sharon and if they suggest an exploratory, I am going to ask about endoscopy? - as suggested by Lynn. If they don't do them there, one of our other vets does so we will take her there instead. One of our volunteers, Isobel is a VN at the other vets. We think an exploratory is too invasive and if there is another possible way we will do that. As Sharon said, we need to get to the bottom of what if wrong with her.
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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2008, 12:45:42 PM »
poor Alice, hope they can help.

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2008, 12:33:56 PM »
She seems to read my mind, she was really cagey when I went up and ran under the bed as if she knows where she is going  :(

She is purring and rubbing up against me but I know something is very wrong  :'(
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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2008, 12:30:03 PM »
Poor Alice, hope that they can help her  :hug: :hug:

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Re: Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2008, 12:10:35 PM »
fingers and toes crossed for her Mark - she is such a sweet kitty!

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Off to the vets again with Alice
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2008, 11:30:54 AM »
She did a mucousy poo with blood in in the tray just now. I am fearing the worst. I have to take the sample with me  :(

I'm sure they will keep her in - now I am used to having her around, it will be even harder to leave her there. I think they may want to do the exploratory this time  :(

Not sure if she is strong enough and it's hard to see her go through more pain. My poor baby  :'(

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