Purrs In Our Hearts - Cat Forum UK

Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: Stuart on August 06, 2017, 10:31:43 AM

Title: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 06, 2017, 10:31:43 AM
Hi Folks

I think I just brushed on this with my last post - Robbie and teeth extraction, as I Had noticed that Robbie had started to lose
a lot of weight, I had asked for a blood test, they phoned with the results and said everything was fine.

I was away for 3 weeks with work, I come home, look at Robbie and think "He's lost yet more weight?"
OH has also accidentally changed his food pouches from Felix as good as it looks fish flavors (coz that was all he would eat
and even then, he would NEVER clean a plate) to Senior meat in jelly, I have noticed he is eating more but still looks poorly

Marianne on Purrs facebook page suggested Thyroid

checking symptoms, as far as I can tell, I have noticed this

YES*weight loss
YES*increased appetite
?increased activity and restlessness?
YES*a matted, greasy or poor hair coat
?a fast heart rate - not sure, but the vet did put him under for tooth extraction, surely that would have been picked up on?
increased water drinking - cannot tell, he drinks from puddles - won't touch tap water in bowl
vomiting - cannot tell - he's very rarely in
diarrhea - cannot tell - we don't have a litter tray
occasionally difficulty breathing - not that I've noticed
weakness - not that I've noticed

looks like another visit to the vet - to Get ANOTHER blood test, what annoys me is that I requested a blood test the first time
also quoting "he has been losing weight" in the same sentence, obviously this has probably got lost in translation somehow
(there are No vets in my area I trust now) and I see they
even charge for boarding now, even tho they don't stay the night >:(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Liz on August 06, 2017, 10:41:49 AM
Could be Hyper T they need to send bloods away  think its to Bristol about £50.00 and whilst they are at it they should run a sugar curve - all day stay at vets for diabetes symptoms are pretty much the same, being in diabetic number 4 and had 4 Hyper T's we now know what to look for, also senior food is lower in calories so that may also be why he needs more food.  Also get some Complivit food supplement and add to his food a great way to add weight, a couple of pumps a day is easy added to wet food.  1 pump of the wonder food is equal to a full days calories for a 4kg cat, this stuff has kept some of our long termers alive x
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 06, 2017, 10:49:55 AM
Thanks Liz

hmm, is that Complivit food supplement stuff easy to get hold of?
will have to make another appointment with the robbers

and I've still to pop thru to yours with yon stuff ;)
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Liz on August 06, 2017, 10:54:23 AM
Complivit from Vet Uk at a good price
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 06, 2017, 10:59:16 AM
ta Liz
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on August 06, 2017, 11:05:57 AM
I'd check with the vet, but I think your blood test was cheaper than mine, so probably didn't cover thyroid, some vets can test in-house, if they have the correct part on the machine. You could also pick up a couple of tins of a/d from the vet, which is a high calorie food for convalescing cats.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 06, 2017, 11:21:41 AM
Thank you Desley
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 06, 2017, 15:06:13 PM
The others have said what I would have, Complivit, A/D food, Thyroid test, wishing Robbie all the best. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: heather sullivan on August 06, 2017, 21:36:20 PM
Having had 2 cats with thyroid problems over the last few years, I would say def get him  tested. At least if its not that, you can rule that out. :)
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 07, 2017, 07:07:35 AM
Does sound like it could be HyperT, Stuart.  Hope you can get to the bottom of it. 

It's awful when you don't get the service you feel you should from vets.  I don't think it's helped by veterinary franchises where vets seem to come and go with little continuity of care.

Sending soothing vibes for Robbie (and for your wallet, too)  :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 09, 2017, 12:00:07 PM
thanks guys, I've ordered the Complivit, not got an appointment with vet yet, going on holiday tomorrow  :doh:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 09, 2017, 12:44:37 PM
I hope that the Complivit helps Robbie. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 09, 2017, 13:05:08 PM
Easy for me to say, but try not to worry while you're away, Stuart.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Rosella moggy on August 11, 2017, 11:12:52 AM

Hope you have a good holiday Stuart.

Just thought I'd let you know that we had bloods done for Noni yesterday as she is losing weight (awaiting results).  £135 including thyroid (£50) altho very unlikely thyroid as she is only coming up to 11 and not eating well.  Just want to rule it out.  To say you got a bargain is an understatement  :innocent:

Sending best vibes to Mr Robbie  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Liz on August 11, 2017, 12:59:03 PM
Hyper T can strike early our Max was 8 when diagnosed and went on to be 17 years young so longer Hyper T than not, due to his nature he had the thyroid removal op and had a year off tablets but then a little bit left grew back was on Vitalda till he became immune then on to Felimezole and was a happy boy
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 14, 2017, 17:13:48 PM
Damn, just got back and still no Complivit, just checked my order and I have accidentally sent it to my old address ><
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 14, 2017, 17:16:23 PM
That was a short holiday, I hope that you enjoyed it, how close is your is your old address, can you pop round and get it?
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 14, 2017, 17:41:36 PM
That was a short holiday, I hope that you enjoyed it, how close is your is your old address, can you pop round and get it?

not too far away JC, currently have a tenant in there so have asked her if she has it, she certainly hasn't sent me a message?
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 14, 2017, 17:43:50 PM
Scratch that, I just got a message  :doh:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 14, 2017, 17:46:47 PM
That is good Stuart. I do hope that it helps Robbie gain some weight. :crossed:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 14, 2017, 17:54:43 PM
Glad you got it sorted Stuart.  I hate it when that happens - Hotel Chocolat often send orders to my workplace, even though I plainly specify my home address on my account.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 14, 2017, 18:05:13 PM
My own fault, I think I must have registered with them when I stayed in my flat, never noticed when I placed the order in  :doh:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 15, 2017, 18:19:12 PM
What?? Robbie is now turning his nose up at the food - He Knows there is something in it  :shify:

Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Rosella moggy on August 15, 2017, 21:12:15 PM

Does his nibbs like fish?  It disguises all sorts of stuff.

Noni is hoovering up Applaws senior tuna with salmon on jelly.  It's pricey but she really is keen  :wow:

Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 15, 2017, 21:53:02 PM
he did, then he didn't, then he did, think we are back to not
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: alisonandarchie on August 24, 2017, 09:28:37 AM
How is Robbie doing Stuart :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Kittty_Galore on August 25, 2017, 21:30:11 PM
So your cat is losing weight but it is eating more?? Maybe it is hyperthyroidism. Dont take my word for it but you should ask your vet about it
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 26, 2017, 08:41:49 AM
Hi Alison, yeah, he seems to be doing fine, still haven't got round to getting vet appointment yet due to work  :doh:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 26, 2017, 10:09:12 AM
Just a thought Stuart, but one of ours adores Thrive products, and you can get one which is sprinkled over the top of food as a supplement.  It might be worth a go (It can be a bit pricey though, so worth shopping round for)


https://thrivepetfoods.com/thriver-protaste-chicken-food-topper-for-cats-170g

Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Kittty_Galore on August 28, 2017, 21:34:50 PM
So I was checking out some ways to improve my cat's diet and I remembered your thread and Robbie.

I just wanted to share with you what I read about adding healthy things to your cat's diet and maybe this could help you when your kitty doesn't want to eat as much. https://www.felineliving.net/improving-cat-diet/ (https://www.felineliving.net/improving-cat-diet/)

I sincerely hope that you will be able to help Robbie gain some weight and that he will do just fine  ;) give him a big hug  :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on August 28, 2017, 21:40:39 PM
Thank you so much Kitty G, but it's not that he's eating less, Robbie is eating more, a horrendous amount more - nearly a whole box of sachets in one day at one point :O
I get home this Sunday and may be home for a while, I'll see about getting his thyroid checked out then ;) 
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: heather sullivan on August 29, 2017, 19:29:59 PM
Hmmm def sounds like a thyroid problem. THat's how my Silvie was, she was eating 4 sachets a day and she is quite small. She would have eaten more if I let her.  I would get him checked out as soon as you can, as if its thyroid it can affect the heart as well and blood pressure :)
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Kittty_Galore on August 29, 2017, 21:36:24 PM
I just hope it is nothing serious  :(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 29, 2017, 22:14:39 PM
I really hope so too. :cat rub: :cat rub: :cat rub:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: alisonandarchie on August 30, 2017, 08:26:16 AM
Sending Robbie lots of get well wishes :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on September 08, 2017, 17:47:38 PM
Any news Stuart? :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on September 25, 2017, 15:21:46 PM
Still not had a chance to take him to the vets  :doh: He is still his normal self - never see the little butter unless he's wanting food
or sleeping on the carpet / cushion on the settee is also a favorite place
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on December 15, 2017, 19:50:57 PM
I Actually managed to get Robbie to the vets to get checked over and bloods taken, He was a Trooper and put up with all the man handling and injections of Steroids and vitamins etc, the results of the Blood test are back, but they are not showing anything untoward for a 11 year old cat
(age guessed as Robbie's birth date is unknown) so Robbie is currently on more steroids (vet seems to enjoy dishing these out?)
so as it stands just now, we still have no idea why he has lot over 3kg over his usual weight, the steroids of course, are making him eat like a
horse, but there must be something else causing the weight loss? he has also been treated for worms.

Me, I am Still stuck offshore, due home on the 19th December

Is Mark still active in here? as I am told he knows quite a lot about blood results, I'll try and get them up when I get home (for a whole 9 days this time  :censored: )
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on December 15, 2017, 20:25:15 PM
Stuart, I think Mark is activactive on Facebook.  Liz might be able to give you his details.  You must be feeling so worried and frustrated.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Kay and Penny on December 15, 2017, 20:29:20 PM
I've emailed Mark via CatChat directing him to your post, Stuart - I've done this before for another poster and I'm sure he'll respond when he sees the message
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Mark on December 15, 2017, 21:16:11 PM
Hi Stuart, I got Kay's message. I'm not really that up on blood results, but as others have said, the firs tthing I would think of would be thyroid too - obviously that wouldn't show up on a regular blood test. Surprised that the vet hasn't suggested testing for it.

I hope you can get some answers.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 15, 2017, 21:21:36 PM
Would be interesting to know his T4 results, if they are in the upper quartile, they can actually be hyper-t, would need a Free T4 test to confirm
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on December 20, 2017, 19:20:00 PM
Thanks Guys,
and Thank you, Kay and Mark
Yes, I initially took him in and requested a blood test "due to Robbie's weight loss"

they proceeded to do a normal blood test, spoon fed them that I Wanted bloods done
checking thyroid too, then stood there naively at the counter, thinking that they were
looking for an appointment for me to come back or something, then they turn round
and ask for payment  :shocked:

Just got back home yesterday, Robbie is now more steroids - eating like a horse
hasn't been sick, so thats good

Just away to scan the blood results, maybe stick em on CC
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on December 20, 2017, 19:43:36 PM
I hope that you find out the cause Stuart, that is a helluva lot of weight to lose. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 20, 2017, 20:01:28 PM
I'd be interested in his results '
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on December 20, 2017, 21:10:56 PM
Thanks Paula  :-[

Here you go Desley BT
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 20, 2017, 21:21:41 PM
Am surprised the vet wasn't concerned, ALT and ALK being high indicate liver issues which could improve with steroids but I'd question it - a high urea with normal creatnine could indicate an infection
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: heather sullivan on December 20, 2017, 23:19:51 PM
That is far too high, he has a problem with his liver and needs to be investigated further. Could just be an infection, inflammation or hopefully not, a tumour. I would speak to your vet about what to do next or get a 2nd opinion.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Kay and Penny on December 21, 2017, 00:07:28 AM
my Trigger had Alt at that sort of level, but the speicalist vets who treated him for HT weren't interested in it at all

but he did have malabsorbtion problems, which only stopped when he was on regular Metacam towards the end of his life, so could well be some pancraeatic or liver inflammation going on with Robbie

could even be a simple food intolerance, if your're lucky Stuart
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 21, 2017, 07:34:55 AM
my Trigger had Alt at that sort of level, but the speicalist vets who treated him for HT weren't interested in it at all

but he did have malabsorbtion problems, which only stopped when he was on regular Metacam towards the end of his life, so could well be some pancraeatic or liver inflammation going on with Robbie

could even be a simple food intolerance, if your're lucky Stuart

I can understand them not being concerned about Trigger as Hyper -t can affect liver values and they often go down when thyroid levels are under control
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Kay and Penny on December 21, 2017, 10:52:39 AM
I didn't know that Desley - so Robbie's symptoms do all point towards HT as the likeliest diagnosis?
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 21, 2017, 12:12:46 PM
I didn't know that Desley - so Robbie's symptoms do all point towards HT as the likeliest diagnosis?

No, because his T4 levels are fine, so infection/inflammation is more likely, partly as his urea is raised. Can understand the vet ignoring the other 3 highlighted values, as they are barely high/low. If your vet says normal, I would get a second opinion - I had a foster cat once who had more things wrong than right, the vet the police had taken him to had done bloods, mine did a consult where I just took the results rather than the cat, so you might be able to do that.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on December 21, 2017, 12:59:50 PM
Thanks again for the replys guys

I was not overly correct when I said he wasn't concerned

I asked the mrs as it was she who spoke to the vet, results saying about the liver are low, but nothing significant for a cat
of 11 years old, it could be inflammation of the bowel/bowel disease, nothing he could diagnose from the blood results.

moving forward, Robbie has been put on a course of steroids with another course of bloods to be done when they are finished
then possibly a scan?
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Rosella moggy on December 22, 2017, 06:11:16 AM

Just a thought but has anyone suggested testing a urine sample which just may give a bit more info.

My vet would also be pretty unimpressed with that ALT result but think ALP is liver related. However his bilirubin level is fine   so maybe not.  Also I'm pretty sure that cats with liver problems usually eat very little as they feel nauseous.

Would have thought WBC would have been raised if it were an infection. I'm certainly no vet though.

Scans are very expensive Stuart. Been down that road with Billy this year.  Sadly we had to let him go as thought likely a blockage following scans caused by cancer and he would not be compliant for treatment but his liver values were far far higher than Robbies.

It was the urine test that alerted vet to seriousness of his problem though which is why I wonder if that could help?

Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on December 22, 2017, 08:25:53 AM
Stuart, I have little knowledge of the issues here, but I do know you're very worried, and am sending my thoughts and best wishes for Robbie.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on December 22, 2017, 10:18:00 AM
Thanks Sue  :shy:

and Thanks Rosella

Robbie doesn't have a litter tray, he just does his business outside, getting a P sample will be tricky but not impossible
He has never been one for scoffing his food down, in fact, he ate more when he first arrived, I think once he realized
the food would be there on a daily basis, that's when he became picky, for the last 6 years his eating habit's have
not changed, his personality has not changed, in fact nothing has changed apart from his weight loss.

I still haven't paid his initial bill + the 3 week course of steroids, vet has mentioned scans, I am still waiting to find out
what is going on as I have pet Insurance for Robbie, but do not know whether to pay bill or file for a claim yet

I just want to know whats going on with him?
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 18, 2018, 20:09:40 PM
Things really turned around with the steroids, he was eating like a horse, one morning he basically ate 6 satchets :shocked:

But now we are in an even darker place, I am still away from home
OH told me she was concerned with Robbie and that he was out of sorts and not eating, she made an appointment with the vet today.

It was another Vet she saw local vet (same practice) he thinks there are several things going on at the same time
but does not know what?

He says there are Lumps in his abdomen, his blood results are pointing to liver disease, he has a thick jaw? and has lost all of his Guard hairs :(

More bloods have been taken and these are now being sent through to Aberdeen, Robbie has also been given another steroid injection and another to stop him feeling sick :(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 18, 2018, 23:55:28 PM
I don't know what to say, just sending my best wishes to you all. :blow kiss:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 19, 2018, 05:51:28 AM


Suggest you put the insurance claim in now Stuart.  See no point in waiting.  Hope it's decent cover. 

Have been googling the hair loss symptom.  Unusual to have hair loss all over.  You must be so worried esp being away from home  :hug: :hug:

Wish I could help.  Guessing is pointless.  Fingers crossed that blood results clarify things more but imagine vet will encourage you to sanction scans esp due to lumps in abdomen.

Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 19, 2018, 06:12:02 AM

You mentioned in an earlier post that vet keen on steroid injections.  How long has Robbie been having them?  Just wondering if they are just possibly causing any side effects?

They are invaluable for treating all sorts of conditions but need to exercise care with longer term use.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 20, 2018, 08:09:22 AM
Rosella, initially he got a steroid injection, then over December he got a course of steroids in the form of tablets
and yesterday he got another injection as he was not eating :(

Thanks Paula xx
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 22, 2018, 08:04:23 AM
Stuart, am sorry this is happening, especially because you're away, which makes it really worrying for you both.  I would also suggest putting the Insurance forms in now.   :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 22, 2018, 08:29:29 AM
I got home early, Robbie is going for an Xray this morning  :(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 22, 2018, 08:43:09 AM
I hope they can ascertain what's going on, Stuart.  Thinking of you all.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 22, 2018, 08:44:13 AM
Thanks Sue  :shy:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 22, 2018, 08:57:01 AM
Fingers crossed it gives you some answers
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 22, 2018, 09:15:17 AM
Fingers and toes crossed here too Stuart  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 22, 2018, 09:30:23 AM
Thank's guys, that's Robbie dropped off, they will also be doing ultrasound
I hope this will finally give answers and it is treatable  :(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Dawn F on January 22, 2018, 13:01:11 PM
hope you get some answers Stuart
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 22, 2018, 17:24:25 PM
Unfortunately, it is not good news

The Vet diagnosed Robbie with Intestinal cancer and there is nothing that can be done.

Robert will have palliative care until he has no longer a good quality of life.

Needless to say I am numb  :'(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 22, 2018, 17:27:25 PM
I'm so sorry to hear this, hope you get some quality time with him
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 22, 2018, 18:10:50 PM
Stuart, I'm gutted for you, your OH and Robbie.  I know this is something you've probably considered and dreaded hearing.  Noting we say will alter how you're feeling now, but genuinely, you've cared so much for Robbie, and he's known such love and affection and care whilst he's shared your lives.  That much, you couldn't better if you tried.  :hug: :hug:  I'm so sorry the news is so devastating.

Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Liz on January 22, 2018, 18:38:32 PM
Stuart so sorry to hear this about darling Robbie sending hugs to you, Carol, Marissa and Robbie x

You know where I am x
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 22, 2018, 23:24:44 PM
So sorry to hear that it is such awful news, I'll be thinking of you all. :care: :care: :care: I know that Robbie will receive the very best of love and care for as long as it takes and you will both know when the time is right to let Robbie go. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 23, 2018, 08:40:33 AM

Oh Stuart.  I'm so very sorry to hear this :(

Poor Robbie.  Thank heaven he has such a doting family who know him well.  You are  very much in my thoughts  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Dawn F on January 23, 2018, 08:41:08 AM
Stuart I am so sorry  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 23, 2018, 09:26:11 AM
Thanks guys, he sulked for quite some time last night and refused to come in

I'm pretty sure the steroids are working and making him feel better now,
I caught a glimpse of him in next door neighbours garden with a Mouse
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 23, 2018, 09:54:34 AM
It's all about quality of life.  If he's mousing, he's enjoying himself.  :) :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Dawn F on January 23, 2018, 09:57:08 AM
stuart we had the exact same thing with our Oscar, he had a few good months between diagnosis and making the call - he loved his food and they day that stopped I knew it was time but he had a good life until then, he didn't know he was ill and the vet assured us he felt no pain.  sounds like Robbie doesn't know he is ill either and long may it continue
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: alisonandarchie on January 27, 2018, 23:55:46 PM
steroids are great Stuart and make such a difference :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 28, 2018, 19:20:15 PM
hmm, just wished they would, I'd hate to think what he would be like without them  :'(

Robbie is currently just licking the liquids/gravy etc, only solids he will eat is Asda treats
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Liz on January 28, 2018, 19:45:28 PM
Liquidise the food with a little water then he can drink all his dinner = Jester is currently drinking his with added Complivit food supplement :)
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 28, 2018, 20:34:27 PM
I tried that Liz, used the nutribullet, he just turned his nose up at it, and the Complivit he won't touch  :(

Glad Jester is Soldiering on  :Luv:

Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Yvonne on January 28, 2018, 20:38:28 PM
Positive vibes being sent this way   :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 28, 2018, 21:49:44 PM
Thanks Yvonne  :shy:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 29, 2018, 06:28:08 AM
Have you tried the cat soup? It does have some lumps in it, but maybe you could mash them a bit. Misa loved them just after his teeth were removed and his gums ulcerated.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 29, 2018, 07:00:21 AM
Just sending love and gentle ear rubs for Robbie.   :cat rub: :cat rub:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 29, 2018, 08:48:55 AM
Have you tried the cat soup? It does have some lumps in it, but maybe you could mash them a bit. Misa loved them just after his teeth were removed and his gums ulcerated.

Hi Paula, that is the main thing he laps up, loves it, but still won't eat the meaty bits, I tried putting a couple of satchets in the blender but he just turned his nose up

Thanks Sue 
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 29, 2018, 19:17:26 PM
It is mostly liquid, I think, not promising, I still have a few in the garage. Would you like me to post them up for him? Misa is back on normal diet.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Kay and Penny on January 29, 2018, 21:55:10 PM
I got a cat with an ulcerated tongue to lap up cat food liquidised with poached chicken liver- most cats love the smell and taste of liver
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: heather sullivan on January 29, 2018, 22:20:31 PM
warm any food up, the smell may tempt him? :Luv:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on February 01, 2018, 10:41:58 AM
Thanks for the offer Paula, I have got loads of Soups cat foods here
will maybe try the chicken livers, would it be ok to give them raw?
Yes Heather, been slightly heating the food for a while, it does make a difference

He is still Robbie, Still cleaning himself, just wish he would eat a bit more :(
Only other thing he has started doing is incessant meowing to get outside at all hours
don't know why he has stopped using his cat flap? he uses it to come back in
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: pandorawarlord on February 01, 2018, 12:18:05 PM
positive vibes for Robbie  :cat rub: :cat rub: :cat rub:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 01, 2018, 12:54:04 PM
Quote
he has started doing is incessant meowing to get outside at all hours
don't know why he has stopped using his cat flap? he uses it to come back in]

Sounds like he may have had a bit of a confidence knock when using the flap.  That might be because of an encounter when leaving the house, or if he's having a low episode, feeling a bit under the weather and worried he can't make good his exit. 

Malt went through a phase of only going out if the patio doors were open, whilst using the flap to get back in.  In her case it was because she kept being ambushed by our neighbour's cat, who loathes her (poor little scrap - she's just a tot compared to him).

She can and does use the flaps, but prefers it if the door is left ajar.  Our kitchen is consequently always freezing at this time of year.....  :-:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Kay and Penny on February 01, 2018, 12:57:57 PM
re chicken livers, I'd try lightly poaching them in water so the middles are still raw, as the smell seems stronger after cooking - they are very soft cooked this way so should blend easily
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on February 01, 2018, 17:22:29 PM
OK I have discovered the cat flap issue is my fault  :doh:
It is a sureflap, the ones where you can control the time of the comings and goings, I remember a few days ago
playing about with the settings as it was windy and this was stopping the flap returning to closed position, I thought
I had returned it to it's Original setting, as my OH had to get out of bed at 1am to let Robert out, she checked the
setting tonight and noticed for exit, it was set not to open  :doh:

this has now been rectified  :innocent:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on February 01, 2018, 19:52:46 PM
Ooopsie. :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on February 01, 2018, 21:18:38 PM
Ooopsie. :evillaugh:

getting sick of growing old  :P
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 02, 2018, 05:47:06 AM
At least that was easily remedied.   :hug:  (the flap - not you cracking on  ;))
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on February 02, 2018, 05:47:06 AM
"We know a song about that, don't we children?"

Anyone remember The Harry Enfield Show? :shify:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on February 02, 2018, 16:17:33 PM
"We know a song about that, don't we children?"

Anyone remember The Harry Enfield Show? :shify:

LOL "Billy and Johnny"

OMG, I just bought Purina Gourmet crystal Soup for Robbie, he scoffed the lot and licked the plate, that's the first time since he decided to stay with us that he has cleaned a plate :O

he's away outside now, just hope he keeps it down :(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: heather sullivan on February 02, 2018, 18:02:16 PM
Billy and Johnny was Hale and Pace ;)
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on February 03, 2018, 08:39:48 AM
Billy and Johnny was Hale and Pace ;)

they are the only ones I can think of that say "We know a song about that"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSWBX72rDe4
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on February 03, 2018, 13:17:15 PM
Ooopsie! It's old age dontcha know. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I am glad that you have found something that Robbie will eat. :Luv:

Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on February 06, 2018, 13:04:34 PM
Oh well, it had to happen, Back to work tomorrow, for 3 weeks :(

Robbie is still Robbie, cleaning himself, eating plenty of soups (still don't know if he keeps it down, and what his toileting is like?)
Sleeping and Stretching, just being Robbie  :Luv:

His steroid tablets run out in 5 days time, so we will need to get more, just hope they keep working for as long as they can  :scared:

I would hate for things to go downhill when I am offshore  :'(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 06, 2018, 17:47:31 PM
Stuart, know too well how you'll be worrying like crazy.  It may not help you much, but we're all thinking of Robbie, and sending super strengff vibes for when his Dad is offshore.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on February 06, 2018, 18:06:15 PM
Thanks Sue  :shy:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on November 18, 2018, 20:46:23 PM
Well, I couldn't believe it but Robbie has soldiered on all through the year, when he would go off his food, we'd either try a different
type or give him his steroid tablets for a few days, it's only been the last week he has been off usually finding vomit on the carpet
most mornings, I'll be going to the vet tomorrow to see if I can get something to get him to keep his food down.
I managed to get a photo of him in one of his favorite perches today, I then compared it to one taken 5 years ago, it's heartbreaking  :'(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sootyca on November 18, 2018, 21:39:20 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug:

Such a big difference in him - you don't notice the same when you see them daily, it's when you put photos side by side.

Bless Robbie.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on November 18, 2018, 22:02:19 PM
Thanks Sootyca  :shy:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on November 18, 2018, 22:08:45 PM
Stuart, Have you tried the Complivit that Liz swears by? I think it's putting more meat on Emos bones. :hug: :hug: :hug:

Bless Robbie, cats do tend to lose weight as they age though. How old is he now?
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on November 19, 2018, 05:43:12 AM
 :(  yes, see what you mean Stuart.   :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: dawnf on November 19, 2018, 09:20:07 AM
oh bless him yes, its sad to see them in decline like that  :(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on November 20, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
I tried Complivit the last time Paula, heaven knows where it's at now he never touched it  :tired:

I had Robbie to the vets today and as per usual he behaved impeccably  :Luv: he has also been given a good report
regarding his health in the form of his gums are in good colour his eyes are bright, and he is obviously in no pain as
the vet gave his abdomen a right check over. so I am another £69 down and have been given a weeks course of meds
we have

21 x Metronidazole susp
14 x Prednicare
and also
7 x Omeprazole

will see how he does on those  :shy:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on November 20, 2018, 22:35:40 PM
Bless you all, :hug: :hug: :hug:

I have nothing more to suggest
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Misa on November 20, 2018, 23:42:04 PM
SENDING LOVE TO ROBBIE
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on November 21, 2018, 09:58:44 AM
Thanks Guys
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sootyca on November 24, 2018, 20:01:00 PM
How's Robbie doing?

 :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on November 25, 2018, 10:08:07 AM
Hiya Sootyca

He is doing fine, eating like a horse, My daughter thinks he is putting on weight, I think she's right
but then again, I know how quick it also comes off, just a few days of the course of medication left :(

Thanks for asking :)
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on November 25, 2018, 14:02:45 PM


So good to hear, Stuart.  Let's hope this time he keeps the weight on. Xxx
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: heather sullivan on November 26, 2018, 13:03:05 PM
Thats good news, hopefully he will pick up again and put lots of weight on. :)
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 01, 2019, 14:01:08 PM
Well Robbie came in from outside the same time as I came into the kitchen, I'm afraid Robbie has went downhill and is now just sitting in his bed  :'(

He has basically been off his food for the last few days (something he has done before but always came round with a different flavour) this time this
wasn't working, so we got some roast chicken slices which was picked at, but he thouroughly enjoyed the raw chicken breast.

We were going to try him again on his cat soup again but the way he is now, I do not think he has long  :( :'(

As some of you may know, Robbie was diagnosed with cancer of the intestines about a year ago, I was told that they were double the thickness that
they should be and this was also stopping the nutrients going into his system explaining the weight loss.

I was told by the vet that because of the type of cancer he has and his age there was nothing more that could be done for him, the only thing you can
do is give him palliative care, I replied "as long as he has a quality of life" the vet replied "Yes, I believe we are reading off the same page"

So, that was that  :(

Fast forward to mid November 2018, Robbie started being sick on a daily basis, more bile than anything else, I took him back to the vets to get
something to stop him being sick, I saw a different vet this time, he started going on about all the things that could be making him sick, kidneys
liver problems, hyper thyroid etc... and what the best course of action we could take? all the while, I'm standing there a bit confused? thinking
"hold on a minute, Robbie has cancer hasn't he?" I still don't know why I never mentioned this, I just wanted something to make Robbie better.

This course of meds lasted just over a week, I ended up going offshore, phoning home, OH told me he was still being sick and that she would
be taking him back to the vets.

OH took him back to the vets again and saw yet another vet, she too was also fishing around trying to guess what was causing him to be sick
OH repeated to her what I had been told by the first vet "Cancer" she replied, "well to be honest, we don't really know what is going on with
Robbie, it could well be cancer?"

This made me angry, If they did not really know what was going on with him, then WTH was I told he had cancer and that there was nothing more
they could do for him? basically almost a year of investigation could have been done to determine exactly what was going on.

I don't know what to do about that now

At the end of the day, if Robbie is the same as he is today tomorrow, I will have to call a vet for a home visit  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 01, 2019, 14:09:21 PM
I'm sorry to hear he is going downhill. I can understand your anger at the vet, I had a similar thing, but would it have been fair to to through a load of investigations? Just going off his pics, it is clearly something and I doubt you would have got any longer with him and would he have appreciated the tests and possible regular medication?  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 01, 2019, 14:34:10 PM
Stuart above all else I understand the sense of pain, frustration and loss.  It's so hard, faced with your choices.  Only wish there was something we could do. Xx

[/size]
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on January 01, 2019, 17:35:01 PM
Stuart, I am sorry that your lad is so poorly  :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 01, 2019, 19:47:49 PM
Thanks guys, he is still not good, I have found him twice at the back door and lifted him outside, he has peed twice He then walks back to me and lets me carry him back inside, he has eaten and drank a little, will be monitoring him over the next couple of days, but my hopes are not high for a good outcome  :'(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Liz on January 01, 2019, 20:48:19 PM
Stuart our thoughts are with you, Carol and Marissa x
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 01, 2019, 20:55:02 PM
I can understand your frustration and anger.

The main thing to remember is that if the worst happens, Robbie has had the very best of care and pampering. He is well and truly loved. That is the most important thing. My thoughts are with you all. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 02, 2019, 16:03:41 PM
I think I will be calling the vet for a house call tomorrow  :'( :'( :'(


He did have a lot of Lick-e-lix last night and some water, he did go outside for a wee while today but he isn't eating or drinking now  :'(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 02, 2019, 17:06:47 PM


Stuart, am so sorry.  I love The two tributes you posted.  So true.

Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on January 02, 2019, 17:08:45 PM
I'm so sorry Stuart   :'(  :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 02, 2019, 22:43:20 PM
Oh Stuart, thinking of you all. :care: :care: :care: :blow kiss:

Particularly loved the cat holding his grieving humans, very sweet and poignant. People who don't 'get' cats and thing that they are aloof, unfeeling creatures are just so wrong. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 03, 2019, 06:46:47 AM



Stuart, just wanted to say, am thinking of you and yours this morning.  x


Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 03, 2019, 10:43:18 AM
Thanks again guys, I have asked another practice 13miles away for a home visit, they should be here at 3:30 today  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 03, 2019, 10:46:49 AM
I'm so sorry to hear that, I'll be thinking of you this afternoon
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 03, 2019, 12:15:41 PM



With you in spirit, Stuart.  :hug:  Please give Robbie a gentle stroke from us.


Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on January 03, 2019, 13:33:12 PM
Stuart, you will be in my heart and thoughts this afternoon :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 03, 2019, 16:54:41 PM
Going to miss ye mannie  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 03, 2019, 17:15:28 PM


Safe journey, Robbie. 




Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 03, 2019, 17:22:30 PM
Thinking of you and yours Stuart. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on January 03, 2019, 22:59:37 PM
Goodbye sweet Robbie, play hard at the Bridge.
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 04, 2019, 08:29:44 AM
RIP Robbie  :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Liz on January 04, 2019, 10:28:43 AM
Stuart thoughts are with you, Carol and Marissa this morning and I know the pet crem will do you proud - we both use the same Pet crem as Stuart isn't to far from me x
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 05, 2019, 22:48:28 PM
Thanks guys  :shy:
most things have been dealt with now, last thing I have still to do is clean Robbies cat flap and lock it, not looking forward to that  :'(

Aye Liz, the guy at the Crem is a nice lad, the place has fairly changed since I was there with Olivia
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 05, 2019, 23:30:40 PM
Stuart, Carol and Marissa, it is so very hard, again, my thoughts are with you all. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 06, 2019, 06:35:19 AM

Oh Stuart.  Am so very sorry for your loss  :hug: :hug:

RIP Robbie.  Such a very handsome boy  :blow kiss:  :'( :'(

Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on January 21, 2019, 18:49:12 PM
Thank you guys  :shy:
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Misa on January 22, 2019, 14:24:56 PM
RIP ROBBIE SO VERY SORRY TO HEAR OF YOUR LOSS
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Stuart on February 07, 2019, 19:33:37 PM
Robbie finally sent me a Rainbow today  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Robbie losing weight
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 07, 2019, 20:19:15 PM
Oh Stuart.   :hug: