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Title: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on March 30, 2017, 18:06:28 PM
Bella was playing with my daughter when she suddenly froze, wouldn't respond to touch or her name, lasted a minute or so and then she seemed to come out of it, she looked like a person having an absence seizure. She seems okay now purring, she's gulped down some food, have a vets appointment at 10am tomorrow but really worried about her. She's five years old has a minor heart murmur but is normally well :( 
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on March 30, 2017, 20:19:42 PM
I hope that this was just a one off and that vet can set your mind at rest tomorrow, or at worst can do tests to isolate cause and provide medication if necessary. Really don't know much about epilepsy in cats, but in people a one off would just be viewed as an aberration, and follow up after basic checks would be minimal unless there are further 'absences'. Good luck with tomorrow for you all. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 31, 2017, 07:10:33 AM
I support Paula's comments too.  Very much hoping the visit to the Vet this morning can shed some light on things, and sending shedloads of positive thoughts for you and Bella.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on March 31, 2017, 07:24:54 AM
Thank you both, spent most of the night awake worrying, we're meant to be going to London for the weekend tomorrow for daughters 8th birthday. My dads coming to cat sit. don't want to leave him with a poorly cat, but it's daughters birthday present so don't want to let her down either
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 31, 2017, 07:39:35 AM
It's going to be worrying for you, but for now you're doing all you can.   :hug:

I suspect Bella's behaviour will have to be monitored, and unless it takes a serious turn for the worse, there's not much more you can physically do.  As Paula says, sometimes these can be a one off in the electrical wiring of the brain, as it were.

Our lovely old Tess suddenly developed fitting when she was around 5.  In her case it was triggered by over-heating - she was a beardie collie cross, with a heavy double coat.  We solved matters by keeping her clipped, and making sure so far as we could that she didn't get heat exhaustion (not easy with a dog who lived to run and play, but we managed).

It may have been the case with Bella too, if she was getting very excited. 

Try not to worry.  You and your daughter deserve to have a lovely weekend, and hoping everything settles down so you can have your trip together without fretting.   :hug: :hug:

Keeping all crossed.   :crossed:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on March 31, 2017, 11:20:22 AM
Just back from the vet, he thinks it's her heart that caused it,she has a grade 4 heart murmur. We're to try and stop her getting to overexcited and keep an eye on her. If she does it again they'll do bloods and based on those possibly refer her to a cardiologist.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 31, 2017, 12:10:38 PM
HOPE THAT IT WAS A ONE OFF BECAUSE ITS TERRIBLY MANAGING A CAT THAT HAS SEIZURES AND MINE DID NOT HAVE EPILPSY  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 31, 2017, 13:03:07 PM
Well at least that puts the matter into perspective.   :hug: :hug:

Our Padster had a heart murmur too, and that was manageable.  They're usually graded 1 to 6, so Bella is on the higher side of the grading, but it doesn't mean it can't be treated.

Bella is a relatively young cat, so it's natural they may want to carry out further investigations. 

Heart murmurs aren't necessarily linked to heart disease - there can be other causes, but it isn't always possible to tell unless further tests are undertaken.

Wishing Bella a peaceful and sedate weekend without any incidents, and that you and your daughter enjoy your long planned for trip.   :hug:



Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on March 31, 2017, 15:33:45 PM
Ask our Dad not to play with Bella too much and enjoy your trip and your little girls birthday. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 11, 2017, 20:05:24 PM
thanks everyone for the lovely words, we had a fab trip to london and Bella had a relaxed weekend with my dad.  Shes back to being her normal self (sleeping/eating/demanding strokes). trying to stop harris (18 month old cat) from chasing/playing with her is proving tough so am going to get a feliway plug in to help mellow them out
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on April 12, 2017, 02:23:05 AM
Thanks for the update. I am glad to hear that you enjoyed your trip to London and that Bela is doing well  ;D
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 12, 2017, 06:54:44 AM
That's really good to hear and pleased your London weekend was a success.   ;D
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 12, 2017, 14:27:25 PM
SO PLEASED BELLA WAS OK  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on April 13, 2017, 00:07:04 AM
So pleased that the weekend away was a success and that Bella was fine. :hug: :hug: :hug: Maybe try Zylkene in Harris' food for a week or so and see if it calms him down a bit, you can also get beaphar calming spot on drops, it helped a lot with settling in my newest cat, you can get them off amazon. (
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 23, 2017, 17:52:06 PM
It's just happened again, she got a bit giddy at feeding time and just stopped. Picked her straight up and she wasn't floppy or anything just like she was turned of, lasted a minute or so. Going to get her a vets appointment tomorrow, I know in the past if they do bloods they need to sedate her, so would you fast her just incase??? Dh normally feeds them when he goes to work at 6 but I'm thinking it might be worth holding of till I've spoken to the vets
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on April 23, 2017, 17:54:11 PM
I'm sorry tjhat Bella's not too well. If you can see the vet early then I think it would be worth withholding breakfast.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 24, 2017, 05:44:39 AM
How is Bella today?  Thinking of you both.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on April 24, 2017, 06:57:52 AM
 I WOULD JUST TURN UP AS SOON AS THEY OPEN AS AN EMERGENCY  :hug: :hug:

HOPE THEY CAN HELP HER ASAP.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 24, 2017, 07:49:56 AM
Vets open in 15 mins, so getting daughter ready incase they say take Bella straight in. Bella is very grumpy this morning we decided to fast her as last time she had bloods she needed sedation and I'm positive they'll want to do some today .
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 24, 2017, 08:20:57 AM
Be thinking about you, and hoping the visit is helpful.   :hug:  Sending snoozles for Bella
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 24, 2017, 08:32:48 AM
Vets at 1020, there was a 9am appointment and normally I could have dropped daughter at school 5 mins early and ran across the road to the vets. But it's daughters first day with her new teacher and she suffers with anxiety so new teacher and Bella being poorly and she's a mess so can't leave her earlier why does everything have to happen at once
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 24, 2017, 08:38:15 AM
It's sod's law, isn't it?     :hug: :hug:  Fingers crossed for later.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 24, 2017, 10:12:08 AM
Just waiting to be seen, not sure if it's because she's not had breakfast but she just seems very quiet and not herself
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on April 24, 2017, 10:46:49 AM
hope you get on ok, such a worry  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 24, 2017, 11:21:45 AM
Just home, vet was lovely, he really likes cats, and loved Bella. He gave her a full check up and said he didn't want to do bloods today as he thinks it's her heart, he said not only has she got a murmur but it goes from beating fast to slow and back again. He said there's three options 1) start her on medication straight away 2) do a full cardiac screen, scans, X-ray and stuff or 3) do nothing as inbetween episodes she's well. He said that he wouldn't recommend option 3 but he had to give it.  I told him she's far to important to our family to do nothing and that she is insured (her heart murmur was first discovered when she was already insured by petplan so we've kept her insured by them knowing they'll cover her) . So he arranged for her to go back on Friday when they have a morning free so they can get a ultrasound specialist in, to do her scans, and X-ray and if needed do bloods then as they might need to sedate for for the scans and saves sedating her twice in a week.  To try and keep her calm and quiet and if she has another episode to try and video it and time it as well. He said it all sounds bad but she's not showing signs of being unwell between episodes so that a really positive thing, she's not fluid overloaded and she's not loosing weight so it may just be that she'll need some form of medication to regulate her heartbeat
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 24, 2017, 12:00:17 PM
Well that sounds not exactly positive, but giving you a direction to proceed in, which is  reassuring of itself.  Certainly if she has the tests done, it will either rule it out, or clarify matters, and enable meds to be considered.  :hug: :hug:  Do you feel better for having trusted your instinct and made the appointment?   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 24, 2017, 12:09:06 PM
I just want Friday over with so then I know what we're dealing with. He said there's a drug he might recommend but it'd be off licence, that doesn't worry me as such as so many drugs are used off licence. I'm just scared incase it shows something awful. Bella's happier now she's had breakfast
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on April 24, 2017, 12:30:24 PM
He sounds very good and proactive, everything crossed it's just a case of giving meds. In humans it would be called Atrial Fibrillation, is it the same in cats?

If it is, it is what OH has, one pill a day has sorted it out nicely.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on April 24, 2017, 13:38:21 PM
Fingers crossed for the tests on Fri
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on April 24, 2017, 17:03:32 PM
I'm glad your vet is so kind and thorough. Sorry that the news is not what you want to hear though  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 27, 2017, 15:03:20 PM
Hi treasure.  Just popping by to see how you're doing, and hope you're not worrying too much about tomorrow.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 27, 2017, 21:13:08 PM
Am trying not to worry but I think tomorrow is going to be a long day. Got to drop her at the vets at 9am and it depends if she needs sedating as to what time I can collect her
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 28, 2017, 05:44:50 AM
Topping up the positive thoughts for you and Bella xxxxx.  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on April 28, 2017, 08:37:06 AM
Keeping everything crossed that all goes well with Bella at vet visit today and that it is not too long before you can bring your beautiful girl back home. 

It would be brilliant if it's only a matter of one pill a day.  Heart issues are so worrying but excellent news that no fluids detected around her lungs  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on April 28, 2017, 08:39:40 AM
best of luck for today, hope its easily sorted
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 28, 2017, 09:29:59 AM
Dropped her of at the vets. Have to phone at lunch time to see how she's doing
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on April 28, 2017, 09:35:15 AM
Everything crossed for you all. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 28, 2017, 12:15:58 PM
She's had her scans don't think they sedated her, just have to wait for vet to ring to tell me what they've found
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 28, 2017, 12:26:23 PM
Not too much longer to wait, hopefully.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 28, 2017, 12:58:25 PM
vets just phoned, he wants me to go in at 430 and talk about what they've found trying not to panic, the day is dragging. trying to get incontact with husband so he can come with me, going to have to take daughter as no one will be able to collect her from school
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on April 28, 2017, 13:08:59 PM
but didn't give any idea??
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 28, 2017, 13:15:52 PM
No, just said they had to give her a tiny bit of sedation and she's come round fine, eaten her breakfast and to go to the vets at 430 to discuss what they've found, really scared, dh is going to make sure he's at the appointment
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 28, 2017, 13:18:53 PM
Worrying isn't going to alter anything in the meantime, so just try to prepare yourself against worse case scenario.

Take a notebook and pen with you, so you can write things down, and ask questions about things if you need to, because if there are options, you may want to arm yourself with additional information.

Sending a hug in the meantime.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on April 28, 2017, 13:22:16 PM
Judging from our beautiful Boris' experience, vet will want to show you what the scans showed up.  I found it so much easier to understand what he was talking about whilst looking at xrays.  It's so good that they were able to carry out tests without too much sedation due to heart issue.  Good idea that hubby going too as two heads always better than one. 

Might be a good idea to bring a pen and paper to take down a few notes.  You might also want to ask vet if there is a recommended website for you to refer to when your head has stopped spinning so that you can better understand stuff so you can make better decisions. 

If they are carrying out blood pressure tests it's better to take readings over a good number of hours.  Also best not to do too many tests one after the other to avoid too much stress.  Very much a softly slowly approach when heart issues involved  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on May 01, 2017, 13:17:53 PM
hope you got on ok, have been thinking about you
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on May 01, 2017, 13:47:48 PM
hope you got on ok, have been thinking about you

Me too x
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 01, 2017, 14:00:06 PM
Thanks ladies, she has sub aortic stenosis, which is really rare in cats. At least we know what it is unfortunately as its so rare in cats there's no proven treatment but in dogs they use beta blockers. We're going to start her on atenalol and then scan again in 3 months. Because it's so rare no one knows how long she'll be with us as she's at risk of sudden death and also going into heart failure, but there's no sign of that yet.  My vet was very honest and said he doesn't know much about her condition but can always contact the specialist if he needs advice.
Looking online, studies done on dogs, surgery doesn't provide a better outcome and lifespan is on average 15 months after diagnosis. The vet did say if she hadn't picked our daughter at the rescue and become a house cat she probably wouldn't have lived this long so just to try and keep her stress free and see what her next scan says. 
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 01, 2017, 14:06:34 PM
Meant to add, the sedation really seemed to take it out of Bella, only today she's started acting herself, she's completely disgusted with her shaved chest and belly and keeps going to clean it and then stopping
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on May 01, 2017, 15:17:19 PM
Having a diagnosis must be something of a relief.  Really glad Bella' s not taking things lying down.    :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on May 01, 2017, 15:43:26 PM
I am glad that you got a diagnosis, even if it isn't great, you know what you are dealing with. :care: :care: :care: Hopefully the drug helps and her scan is better in three months. :crossed:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on May 01, 2017, 17:46:23 PM
Aww, sorry to hear it isn't better news. Hopefully the meds will help. Its quite normal for cats to be funny about cleaning shaved patches, it must feel funny to them
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on May 02, 2017, 11:59:28 AM
You were also very much on my mind over the weekend and am sorry it isn't better news  :hug: :hug: :hug:

The vet may have suggested you monitor Bella's breathing?  If not I suggest you ask if this might be a good idea?  I used to video Boris breathing every so often for a full minute and then count the breaths whilst watching the video.  The number of breaths can be an early indication of fluid which can be helped with diuretics. 

As your vet said, it's fabulous that Bella lives indoors which will very much lessen any stress  :care: :care: :care:

Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on May 02, 2017, 12:40:47 PM
your daughter and bella have such a lovely bond, its am great tribute to her to know that the vet says she has had a hand in keeping bella going - I've no advice to offer but just wanted you to know I have been thinking of you all, I know that bella is a very important member of your family and couldn't be in better hands :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 02, 2017, 16:53:18 PM
We've been keeping a watch on her breathing every now and again since she was diagnosed with the murmur. The vet has actually asked me to try to check her heart rate as we'll adjust her medication level depending on it.  She'll quite happily let me have a listen with a stethoscope, but even if she's asleep she starts purring the second I touch her. Did manage to hear her arrhythmia and it is quite shocking how much her heart rate changes, hopefully the medication will help with that
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 02, 2017, 17:17:27 PM
(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r353/girlinleeds/IMAG1146_zpssvvcobuj.jpg) (http://s352.photobucket.com/user/girlinleeds/media/IMAG1146_zpssvvcobuj.jpg.html)
The lady herself
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on May 02, 2017, 17:28:15 PM
Ah! bella Bella :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on May 02, 2017, 17:57:38 PM
Indeed - Bellissimo Bella.   :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on May 02, 2017, 22:14:53 PM
What a pretty girl she is  :blow kiss: :blow kiss:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 03, 2017, 19:43:36 PM
She's been really good and had her first dose of medication, with the bribe of a dreamie, she let me do her heart rate. Have made a chart so we can keep track of when we're giving her her medication and her heart rate so it's easier to show the vet/specialist and so daughter can be involved as she'll like filling in the chart
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on May 03, 2017, 22:14:24 PM
That sounds like a really good idea, especially as your Daughter can feel involved too. Bless. :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on May 03, 2017, 22:28:53 PM
BEAUTIFUL CAT AND GREAT IDEA TO HAVE EVERYONE INVOVED AND SENDING LOADS OIF GOOD WISHES  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on May 04, 2017, 07:06:46 AM
  Making a chart is such a good idea.  Really helps to monitor everything. 
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 04, 2017, 21:42:49 PM
Cheeky monkey spat her tablet out tonight, so daughter goes i can get her to eat it, she took some roast chicken of her plate put the tablet (its only a quarter so a tiny amount) in the chicken and fed it to bella. Why do i have the feeling that, that was bella's plan to get some chicken all along, could see her gloating at jess and harris as she'd had chicken and they hadn't
what you dont do when you have an evening to yourself is spend it googling bellas condition as its scary reading, but shes a strong lady and loves my little girl far too much to go anywhere just yet (or thats what im going to keep telling myself anyway)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on May 05, 2017, 08:16:11 AM
they really do have a special bond, its lovely  :Luv2:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 07, 2017, 21:31:31 PM
Husband said its easy to get her to take her tablet, just put it in her food, Bella ate all the food and then spat her tablet out  :rofl:
Had to squish it into a dreamie (okay took 2 attempts as she found it in the first one ) daughter already in bed so she couldn't get her to take it

Bella's heart rate seems to be settling between 130-140 and vet said above 90-100 so later this week she'll start a morning tablet as well, she's also a bit more playful and alert and don't know if that's coincidence or maybe she's feeling better
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on May 08, 2017, 07:04:32 AM
 :innocent:  Paddy used to do that when he was on Felimazole for his Hyper-T.  We'd think we'd managed to get it down him, then we'd find a tiny half dissolved tablet discarded behind the sofa or on a slipper.   :shify:

Such good news that she's acting much more chipper.   :)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 10, 2017, 19:41:28 PM
I think the other cats are in shock, sleepy laid back Bella is gone and boss Bella is back. Think she will have Harris firmly in his place soon, on one hand him knowing he can't push her around has to be a good thing but on the other trying to stop her bossing him around is hard don't want her getting to over excited
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on May 10, 2017, 20:08:26 PM
Bless her!
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on May 11, 2017, 07:16:02 AM
 :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 12, 2017, 13:02:39 PM
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Just got a new phone so trying out the camera and Bella is just sat there,  she's now on a quarter of a tablet twice a day and her heart rate has dropped a bit,  but still above 100.  even dh has said she's more lively after he had to remove her from the top of the fish tank,  it's a solid top but she hasn't jumped up there in ages
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on May 12, 2017, 13:10:14 PM
what a sweetie  :Luv2:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 19, 2017, 14:23:42 PM
Since starting on her atenalol so far she's not had any more episodes and just seems happier and livelier in herself. She's back to demanding attention and complains on a night if a cushion isn't in her spot on the back of the sofa. Her heart rate seems to have settled around 120-135  a minute which is low for a cat but within what they wanted.  Really hoping that when they scan her in a few months it also shows some benefit as from our point of view it seems to be helping.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on May 19, 2017, 14:29:55 PM
sounds like she is really doing well!
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 19, 2017, 14:30:37 PM
Just this minute found out that that the insurance company have paid our claim, means she can have all future scans without me stressing about payment. I knew they should pay but as it's such a lot of money I was a bit concerned they'd find a reason not to.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on May 19, 2017, 15:01:30 PM
Oh, that's just the very best news!!   :wow:  You must be so pleased.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on May 19, 2017, 20:13:13 PM
Great news all round
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on May 19, 2017, 23:24:30 PM
Brilliant news on the insurance, and such a pretty girl. :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on May 26, 2017, 07:51:46 AM
(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r353/girlinleeds/DSC_0091_zps3alptegr.jpg) (http://s352.photobucket.com/user/girlinleeds/media/DSC_0091_zps3alptegr.jpg.html)
I am boss Bella hear me roar (she was sleeping in dd lunch bag). This last couple of days when she thinks we're not looking I've seen her playing with toys, something she hasn't done in ages
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on May 26, 2017, 10:01:35 AM
Fantastic photo, glad that Bella is picking up. :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on May 26, 2017, 10:01:59 AM
Fantastic photo, glad that Bella is picking up. :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on May 26, 2017, 11:51:30 AM
 :evillaugh:  Brilliant.  And how nice to see.   :Luv: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: alisonandarchie on June 10, 2017, 23:52:56 PM
GREAT NEWS AND WONDERFUL PICS ;D
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on June 22, 2017, 21:58:19 PM
Bella's still continuing to improve, she tries to play with jess and harris (there really shocked when she does and don't seem to know what to do). she's rediscovered her favourite toys and has become very vocal, the only side effect we have seen is hair loss. She leaves clumps of fur where ever she lays and is looking a bit scruffy, but we're not bothered.  We've not seen anymore episodes either which has surprised me as she does get a bit over giddy playing every now and again which i am looking at as a positive sign.
Did have to have the conversation with dd (8years old) about how poorly bella is and she said might she die?? I couldn't lie to her and said there is a possibility but we're doing everything we can to keep her healthy.  They love each other so much i cant even explain, fingers crossed she continues as well as she has
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on June 23, 2017, 08:34:43 AM
good to hear she is doing so well, I do love the relationship your daughter has with her, so heart warming
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on June 23, 2017, 11:59:21 AM
Just stroked Bella and found a lump/scab on the back of her head, she was clawing at me when I tried to look so obviously sore, vets at 2pm
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on June 23, 2017, 12:10:12 PM
Sending lots of positive thoughts for Bella, and hoping the vet visit goes well.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on June 23, 2017, 12:17:16 PM
Glad she is continuing to improve, good luck at the vets
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on June 23, 2017, 14:20:39 PM
Nasty scab on her head but it's clean and no sign of infection, did feel a bit daft (like an over anxious parent) but vet said because of her heart its always worth getting it checked. He listened to her heart and he said it sounds much better than before :)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on June 23, 2017, 20:56:58 PM
Nasty scab on her head but it's clean and no sign of infection, did feel a bit daft (like an over anxious parent) but vet said because of her heart its always worth getting it checked. He listened to her heart and he said it sounds much better than before :)


 :briggin:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on June 23, 2017, 20:58:11 PM
Glad the vet said it was nothing, am sure they would rather people go with nothing, than leave something and only go when it is too late to treat
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on June 23, 2017, 23:38:34 PM
Glad the vet said it was nothing, am sure they would rather people go with nothing, than leave something and only go when it is too late to treat

I can only echo what Des has said. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on June 29, 2017, 08:26:17 AM
bellas been booked in at the vets for the 2nd august for her repeat scan, shes still doing well though, managed to get some pics of bella and dd this morning :)
(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r353/girlinleeds/DSC_0161_zpsfljmclde.jpg) (http://s352.photobucket.com/user/girlinleeds/media/DSC_0161_zpsfljmclde.jpg.html)
(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r353/girlinleeds/DSC_0167_zpsfr2vcfhp.jpg) (http://s352.photobucket.com/user/girlinleeds/media/DSC_0167_zpsfr2vcfhp.jpg.html)
(http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r353/girlinleeds/DSC_0168_zpszzrhpdke.jpg) (http://s352.photobucket.com/user/girlinleeds/media/DSC_0168_zpszzrhpdke.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on June 29, 2017, 11:58:40 AM
They have such a wonderful close relationship, don't they?  And Bella is beautiful.  So pleased she's doing well.   :)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on June 29, 2017, 12:24:16 PM
Bella is an amazing cat, I've been struggling with lots of different things recently and she knows,  and she's just there for me with a purr and a headbutt. Don't get me wrong I love all three cats but Bella is special
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on June 29, 2017, 12:33:23 PM
Aww, how lovely
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on June 29, 2017, 21:12:05 PM
Lovely pics  :Luv2:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 01, 2017, 07:33:20 AM
Bella is of back to the vets this morning for her repeat scans, they'll probably have to sedate her which always worries me but hopefully it'll bring good news
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: alisonandarchie on August 01, 2017, 08:26:12 AM
Hoping everything goes well, thinking of you both :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 01, 2017, 12:53:12 PM
Thinking of you both.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on August 01, 2017, 13:10:46 PM
Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 01, 2017, 14:22:58 PM
Just spoken to the nurse,  she's recovering well and has had breakfast/lunch. They need to monitor her for a while longer so we need to see the vet at about 6pm and collect her
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 01, 2017, 14:36:17 PM
That is really good news, way to go Bella. :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 01, 2017, 20:08:03 PM
unfortunately its not good news Bella is now in heart failure, there's been rapid changes on her scans. Cant even begin to explain how devastated we are dd has sobbed her heart out, she says her heart hurts so much she cant explain. Were going to start her on blood thinners and diuretics cant really write more at the moment 
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 01, 2017, 20:45:25 PM
Oh sweetheart.  I can barely imagine what a blow this is to you all.  I can say nothing which will help, but my heart is truly with you. Xxxxx
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 01, 2017, 20:45:26 PM
I am so sorry, read that completely wrong, I do apologise. I do hope that Bella can rally. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on August 01, 2017, 21:16:07 PM
I'm so sorry to hear this, I do hope the meds buy her some quality time
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 02, 2017, 07:01:32 AM
Thinking of you all this morning, and sending much love.  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 02, 2017, 07:27:43 AM
Thank you everyone,  I've hardly slept I just can't believe it as Bella looks so well. Dd ended up crying herself to sleep,  she was at the vets with us and understood what he was saying better than dh.
 Apparently the atenolol that is preventing her from having more episodes has caused the blood to start pooling in her heart and distended it. We've halved the dose she's having as if we stop it completely she's at high risk of sudden death as it's helping her arrhythmia. The vet is phoning round drug companies today to find the best brand of drug for her, apparently one of the drugs is very bitter and worst when cut (she'd only need a quarter) but another manufacturer makes small dose tablets.
They want to scan again in three months as the changes are so rapid but he advised us not to book it till a couple of weeks before just in case she's not here.  She's our beautiful little angel and I really don't know what we're going to do without her. Dh says there's no point getting upset as she's not gone anywhere yet but I can't help it, he says dd gets more upset when I'm upset which is true but I think it's important she knows that it's upsetting to us all
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 02, 2017, 07:58:12 AM
Its a horrendous situation.  I can't believe how quickly this has developed, and my heart really goes out to you.  Very hard not to openly show your distress, and perfectly understandable that your daughter will be devastated.    But, Bella's gift to you all is the bond and the love that you share, and will continue to share even when she no longer graces your lives on a daily basis.  Hold fast to the fact she's still here now, and enjoy every minute you can with her.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on August 02, 2017, 08:14:58 AM
Is the bitter tasting pill clopidogrol by any chance?  I remember spending hours each night trying to find anything that might help Boris and came across that but he wouldn't tolerate it due to bitter taste. 

Am so very sorry to hear that your beautiful girl is in heart failure  :( :(

Sending every good wish to you all  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 02, 2017, 11:15:27 AM
I think it might be clopidogrol as the vet said it was to prevent clot formation. Have had a hard discussion with dd this morning as she said she wants to keep Bella alive as long as possible and I've explained as long as Bella is happy pain free and not suffering we will do, but there may come a time when the kindest way to show her we love her is to let her go, which I think she understands
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 02, 2017, 11:19:25 AM
And thank you all for understanding just what Bella means to us, she is such a part of our family, just been able to talk and people understand and not say its only a cat helps xx
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 02, 2017, 12:01:53 PM
All of us completely support you.  I think all of us have stood in your shoes at one time or another.  To us it's never "only a cat."   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on August 02, 2017, 13:11:01 PM
I'm so sorry to hear this, I honestly thought she would be ok, I've said it many times before but the bond your daughter has with bella is wonderful I'm just sorry she is being taken so soon  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on August 02, 2017, 13:40:04 PM
So sorry to hear the drug that is helping her arrhythmia has caused issues, do hope the vet can find something for her, and you get plenty of time to take pics etc for memories - maybe something DD can use to make a memory book after? I don’t think you can help getting upset by such sad news, just because they haven’t gone anywhere, you need to adjust and DD is going to be upset regardless, it’s natural. It does sound like you have a very mature, kind daughter x
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 02, 2017, 22:54:47 PM
So sorry to hear the drug that is helping her arrhythmia has caused issues, do hope the vet can find something for her, and you get plenty of time to take pics etc for memories - maybe something DD can use to make a memory book after? I don’t think you can help getting upset by such sad news, just because they haven’t gone anywhere, you need to adjust and DD is going to be upset regardless, it’s natural. It does sound like you have a very mature, kind daughter x

Very wise words from both Sue and Desley, I think that most of us have lost beloved animals on here, and I think that you are quite right to say that Bella's quality of life is the most important thing, harsh as it may seem it will also teach DD an important lesson on any future animals. I still feel desperately sorry for her, a very hard lesson to learn at such a young age

My thoughts are with you all. :care: :care: :care:.

They use Clopidogrel for stroke victims too, it was what OH was on when he had his a year and a bit ago, it is very efficacious, if you can get it down her. :hug: :hug: :hug:

Take care Honey, for you all.

Paula xxx
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 07, 2017, 21:29:51 PM
Hi everyone quick update on bella, the vet has set up a contract with a new drug company to get Bella the low dose tablets, theyve arrived at the vets tonight and we can collect them tomorrow. There's half a roast chicken in the fridge which hopefully will get Bella to eat the tablet. She's been fine since we halved her atenolol dose, no signs of episodes yet and her sleeping respiratory rate is 28 which I know is the high side of normal, but vet happy if it's under 30.
 When I spoke to the vet on Friday about bellas medication he said if I want he can arrange for the heart specialist to give me a call to discuss everything but I'm happy with what he told me. I am very lucky that we have a vet that we trust completely and I know he will do his very best for Bella and her best interests always come first (as it should be)  but he's also the vet that had to put barney to sleep, so I always dread the worst, but nothing prepared me for last week as she's looking and acting so well.  But we're taking everyday as it comes, I've let dd buy her everything she was going to get Bella for her birthday as I'd rather she got her it now than never get the chance, so Bella is the proud owner of a flamingo toy she loves to kill and a tent type cat bed that she spends lots of time in. Will report back after we try to give her the new tablet tomorrow
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 07, 2017, 21:47:26 PM
 :care: :care: :care:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on August 07, 2017, 22:13:00 PM

I was always happy with a resp rate around 30 with Boris but rarely had it that low. 

Soo very much agree that a vet you trust is worth more than a specialist  :hug:  It's all about what is best for Bella.  Sometimes it is easy to get carried away with what you can do rather than what you should do  :hug: 

A vet who cares for Bella and understands your family's relationship with her is worth their weight in gold.

Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 08, 2017, 07:01:40 AM
I agree, and it's great that you Vet thoroughly "gets" where you're coming from.  Am so glad Bella has had an early birthday, and is enjoying her gifts.  My heart goes out to your DD, but am so pleased she's sharing such love with Bella.  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on August 08, 2017, 13:36:56 PM
Completely agree with R, sometimes just because we can do something doesn’t mean we should. Lovely idea to let DD give her presents now.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 08, 2017, 20:57:40 PM
she took two of her tablets really well, the third one it took three attempts and a bribe with some chicken but she had it
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on August 09, 2017, 09:03:52 AM
glad she is taking them  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 09, 2017, 09:43:31 AM
Chikkun is a good bribe.   :)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 09, 2017, 09:56:57 AM
Dh said if you give her chicken now she'll want it everytime, my opinion is that if it takes chicken to get the tablet into her then so be it. Today she's being very fussy and wants constant strokes, she's fallen asleep on my knee (not done that in ages) sleep purring so my trip to the shop for milk is delayed until she moves.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 09, 2017, 10:52:05 AM
Not that you are a devoted cat slave or anything. :evillaugh:

My Mum always used to say "Paula, can you make me a cup of tea? I can't disturb the cat." :rofl:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 09, 2017, 11:34:17 AM
Spoken like a true cat afficionado.   No true cat lover ever wants to disturb the cat.  We all appreciate what a huge compliment it is that they choose to be in/on or near us.   :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 11, 2017, 12:36:41 PM
Think the young lady is feeling better, caught her trying to drink my cup of tea, she hasn't done that in ages. At one point I couldn't put a cup of tea down as she'd have her head stuck in it having a drink
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 11, 2017, 12:38:04 PM
 :evillaugh: :evillaugh:  - The Cup that cheers.....!  ;)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on August 11, 2017, 12:39:51 PM
Aww!!  :innocent:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 22, 2017, 21:08:43 PM
Bellas being a good girl and taking her tablets, sometimes it takes a couple of goes to get them in. She has her moments but generally is getting tired a lot quicker than before and spending lots of time sleeping . Her response rate is settling around 30. Me and dh have discussed how far we will go to keep her alive and have decided at what we are and aren't willing to do. It sounds very morbid but actually it's freeing as we can just enjoy her until the time comes.  Dd is coping she has moments when she gets sad but is spending time just being with her. Bella is the only cat allowed in her bedroom for bedtime stories, and tonight dh upset dd and Bella was very upset with him.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on August 23, 2017, 06:45:13 AM
 :hug:  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on August 23, 2017, 07:10:23 AM

Am glad you have a plan that you are both decided on  :hug: :hug: 

Bella is lucky to have such caring people in her life.  Am very sad for you, hubby and daughter  :(

Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Liz on August 23, 2017, 07:14:52 AM
I am glad you now have a plan for Bella, sometimes releasing the medical side a little takes the stress off all round, we have some of what we call our borrowed time children, Brady 4 years with a jaw tumour only lost 25g and enjoying the sunshine, Jester had a stroke months ago and has steroid injections every 3 weeks and a Vit B for good measure and aside from he walks like he has had one or two Vodka's to many is doing well, this pair are still with us despite the vets diagnosis and are doing well, we like to think its a little Clan cats magic and hard work put n by us as well x
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on August 23, 2017, 07:49:44 AM
As has been said, having a plan in advance helps, Bella is having quality of life with bucketfuls of love, all a cat needs. Bless you all. :Luv: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on August 23, 2017, 16:06:59 PM
Thanks everyone I think I've come to the conclusion that there's a time for being sad and that's not now, just enjoy her while we can. I'm 99% sure it's her love for dd that has kept her going all this time
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on September 26, 2017, 21:56:44 PM
One of the other cats must  have had a go at Bella, she just came into the living room with blood stained fur. Have managed to apply pressure and stop the bleeding but it's really not what she needs :(
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: heather sullivan on September 26, 2017, 23:39:50 PM
Ahh poor Bella hope she is okay :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on September 27, 2017, 05:43:32 AM
Poor Bella.  How is she this morning?
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on September 27, 2017, 06:10:13 AM
There's me laid in bed worrying about her all night and this morning she's looks as fit as a fiddle, we did shut her in the living room on her own last night. And while we're at work today I'm going to keep them separated, more because I don't want her knocking the scab of while we're out.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on September 27, 2017, 06:51:52 AM
 :)  Well, that's a relief, I must say.    :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on September 27, 2017, 10:25:11 AM
So glad she seems none the worse this morning. As Sue says a relief. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on September 27, 2017, 21:56:30 PM
I think I've been blaming the other two wrongly, I've got a feeling she's been scratching her head and caught it making it bleed. She's been fine all day, no further bleeding I swear I don't fuss as much/get as stressed over daughter's health as I do bellas
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on September 29, 2017, 17:28:35 PM
 At the vets she's bleeding again :(
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on September 29, 2017, 19:40:49 PM
 :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on September 29, 2017, 20:32:08 PM
Good luck
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on September 29, 2017, 21:28:04 PM
at first the vet thought she'd been bit, but then saw a similar patch on the other side of her head. He checked for fleas, mites, ringworm and nothing he now thinks shes had an allergic reaction and shes scratched herself as its been irritating her. Shes had an injection of steroids and antibiotics and a weeks worth of oral antibiotics. But far worst then that she has a cone of shame and is not happy about it at all, we've got to try to keep it on her and take her back in a week for a check up
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on September 30, 2017, 06:56:24 AM
 :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on September 30, 2017, 07:43:42 AM
She's really not happy with the cone, she can't eat with it on so have to take it of but getting it back on is a nightmare. As soon as it's of she tries to scratch her head, so she definitely needs it on :(
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on September 30, 2017, 07:56:30 AM

What about an inflatable collar or even a onesie?

We ended up putting a onesie on Elsa to stop her interfering with her spay stitches as trying to put the cone back on after she ate was a nightmare.  She got used to it quite quickly.

Noni recently had to wear an inflatable collar and she could eat fine with it on and it didn't bother her much at all.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on September 30, 2017, 07:58:37 AM

Sorry.  If it's right on her head a onesie no gud but inflatable collar should be fine.

Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on September 30, 2017, 15:30:54 PM
Have managed to get her an inflatable collar just going home to put it on her
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on September 30, 2017, 21:17:40 PM

Fingers crossed the inflatable collar is doing the trick  :hug: :hug: :hug:

Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on October 01, 2017, 09:07:56 AM
What sort of night did Bella have?
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on October 01, 2017, 09:36:28 AM
She fell asleep on the sofa last night so left her there. This morning got up to find she'd removed the inflatable collar and buried it in her litter tray  :rofl:
Because I'm in all day today I've told her she can keep it of as long as she doesn't scratch, so she's had a clean, drank some Water and gone to sleep on the sofa again.
The collar is still stressing her out though and she won't eat or drink wearing it, hopefully the steroid injection has helped with the injection so she's not as itchy, had her nails trimmed at the vet as well
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on October 01, 2017, 09:44:42 AM
I'm pretty sure she's also punctured the collar, the little monkey
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on October 01, 2017, 12:47:05 PM
 :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on October 02, 2017, 09:18:00 AM
I shouldn't laugh but that is funny!!
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on October 02, 2017, 09:22:02 AM
The collar is punctured, but she's not been scratching so I've left it off, at least she's eating and drinking now
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on November 02, 2017, 19:01:06 PM
Her head is all healed, but nerves are setting in now as she's due her next scan tomorrow, the last one brought such unexpected news I'm praying so much she's stable. We didn't think she'd make her birthday but she has she is one tough cookie
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on November 02, 2017, 20:39:49 PM
Bless her, so pleased she has got to this point. ;D
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on November 03, 2017, 05:35:25 AM
Everything crossed for today
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on November 03, 2017, 07:33:37 AM

Sending every good wish for Bellas vet visit today  :hug: :hug:

Glad to hear that her head is fully healed.  She's done so well so far helped by very caring slaves  :)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on November 03, 2017, 07:46:57 AM
She is very grumpy, she really does not like being fasted, but then neither do I
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on November 03, 2017, 14:17:17 PM
They didn't need to sedate her today, which I'm really pleased about. Her scan hasn't shown any changes which is fantastic, although the vet did say they didn't expect her to be so well, still no fluid on her lungs. Realistically this time next year she won't be here but at least we can hopefully have one last spoilt rotten Christmas with her. They've said to rescan in 6 months unless she becomes ill and then they'd do it sooner. No change to her medication either
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on November 03, 2017, 14:38:47 PM
Am so very pleased to hear this.   :) :hug: :hug:  I can just imagine how chuffed you'll all be feeling. 

Clever girl, Bella.   :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on November 03, 2017, 15:02:40 PM
The vet was lovely and said he didn't want to upset me but to say at some point we're going to have to make hard decisions about her, I explained me and dh had already discussed that and as long as she's happy and comfortable we are happy. He understands and I think he's happy we will do the best for her. Just of to pick her up and daughter from school
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on November 03, 2017, 18:54:49 PM
So happy for you All. :wow: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on November 04, 2017, 07:52:36 AM
I hope that Bella is happier today, she'll have had her brekfuss. ;D
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on November 04, 2017, 08:25:17 AM

So pleased she allowed scan without sedation and no fluid on her lungs.  Couldn't have realistically hoped for better news I think.  Am delighted for you all  :) :)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 04, 2017, 09:16:58 AM
That's fantastic news
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on November 04, 2017, 17:35:31 PM
She is bonkers today, I've never seen her so lively she running round pouncing on toys and the other two, why do I get the feeling it's her going, me ill I don't think so  :P
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Liz on November 04, 2017, 22:38:12 PM
So glad she is doing well my only advice would be to follow your heart and love her for being Bella and that will provide some wonderful memories.

Having lost 2 this week my thoughts are with you in this journey x
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on November 29, 2017, 21:06:36 PM
Dh has decided she's getting a bit podgy and needs to diet, I've just moved where her dreamies stash is, honestly what is the point of making her miserable trying to loose weight, as long as she's not massively overweight I'm happy
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on November 30, 2017, 08:32:27 AM
think I'd be sneaking the dreamies!
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on November 30, 2017, 08:48:10 AM
think I'd be sneaking the dreamies!

Me too......  ;) :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on November 30, 2017, 09:12:01 AM
Dh seems to think I've binned the dreamies, in reality me and Bella both know where their hidden, I just think it's pointless making her miserable, it's not going to change anything. I've accepted her prognosis but I think dh is struggling to believe it
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on November 30, 2017, 09:42:38 AM
 :hug: :hug:  Life is for living.  It's all too short, and precious and delightful.  If a Dreamie or too helps things along, I vote for the Dreamies. 
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 30, 2017, 13:24:53 PM
Dh has decided she's getting a bit podgy and needs to diet, I've just moved where her dreamies stash is, honestly what is the point of making her miserable trying to loose weight, as long as she's not massively overweight I'm happy

I fully agree - too much weight could make her heart worse, but a bit extra could be a bonus actually.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on December 24, 2017, 15:03:43 PM
Just thought I'd drop in and update on Bella, she's still doing well. Just cooking a full chicken for the three of them for chickmas, only sad point was when I wrapped bellas  Christmas present for dd and realised it will  be the last one she gets from her. I bought a Teddy that dd is desperate for so she'll have something to remember her by.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on December 24, 2017, 16:00:58 PM
Thank you for the update, I hope that you all have a wonderful Christmas. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on December 24, 2017, 17:16:51 PM
Am also hoping this Christmas  will be very special for you all.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 24, 2017, 18:37:22 PM
Thanks for the update, sorry it was a bit bittersweet for you
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 16, 2018, 16:25:38 PM
Her breathing isn't right, she's always snored when asleep but noisy when awake relaxed resps  upto 38 vets shortly
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 16, 2018, 17:03:52 PM
Thinking of you.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 16, 2018, 18:52:43 PM
She's not good, heart rate 250 and resp rate over 50 at vets, her heart murmur is now grade5-6. She's had an injection of diuretic, and added in fruisamide to her medication, if she doesn't improve or gets worse to get in contact otherwise they'll review her on Friday. Dd said on the way home mummy I don't want to say it but  I think bellas reaching the end of her life, then sat and sobbed.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 16, 2018, 19:30:37 PM
Oh sweetheart.  What can we say?  Nothing that will help, but we're  here for you x
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 16, 2018, 19:52:53 PM
my heart is  breaking but just knowing there are people who understand and care helps. Dd wants me to make her a Bella Teddy, I'm thinking I could crochet a cat and then add black patches on??
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 16, 2018, 22:53:52 PM
Whatever you think will help Dd. We are always here for you both. :care: :care: :care: :blow kiss:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 17, 2018, 06:49:44 AM
She didn't really eat her breakfast this morning, and even though she was purring she wouldn't jump onto the sofa like she normally would. I know we're very rapidly reaching the point where we have to make that decision, she just looked so sad this morning
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 17, 2018, 07:44:48 AM
I remember very well taking my beloved Trouble to the vet just before Christmas three years ago, the vet said that we could keep him going for a few more months, but he would have to have biweekly bloods done and would have to be given pills every day, he was still a purr monster, but had stopped playing, I looked at him, his eyes had started to film with cataracts, and he just wasn't right. I asked the vet what she thought, she said "I think it's time to let him go." In my heart of hearts I knew that, which was why I asked her. She asked if I wanted him taken into the back room, but I said no, so he went to sleep in my arms. It was one of the hardest decisions I have ever made, but I had to do what was right for him. You'll know in your heart of hearts when it is time for Bella. Awful though it is. I am sure your Darling Daughter will recognise this too.

He is in my back garden with a lovely wild white rose on his grave.

As I said before, we are always here for you both. :hug: :hug: :hug:

I think everyone on  here has had to make that agonising decision at some point, we do all understand.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 17, 2018, 07:48:15 AM
Well said, Paula.

It's a heart-rending situation you're in, and each and every one of us wishes there was a way to lessen the feelings of grief and indecision.  I think a Bella Teddy is a wonderful idea, and a lovely tribute to Bella. 

Sending you all much love.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on January 17, 2018, 08:25:44 AM
so sad  :hug:  I think the bella teddy is lovely as well, the way your daughter has loved her is so touching   :(
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 17, 2018, 09:25:39 AM

Thinking of you all  :hug: :hug: :hug:

Sending much love to Bella  :Luv2:

Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 17, 2018, 10:58:02 AM
Dh has said she ate her dreamies this morning with her tablet, I'm desperately hoping these drugs kick in and she perks up a bit. Her Friday appointment is with the vet that knows her best, he's been at every scan and I know we'll get an honest opinion from him. My worst fear is putting her through treatment and dragging things out to benefit us not her,  but Im also scared about saying enough too soon. At least with barney it was clear cut, he'd been poisoned and there was nothing to be done. My heart and head are saying very different things
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 17, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
I so understand.  Been there myself.  Sadly, I didn't make the wisest decision in hindsight.  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on January 17, 2018, 13:02:18 PM
me too sue  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 17, 2018, 13:18:11 PM
It is such a hard position to be in, but it really is best to do it too soon than too late – my neighbour wanted me to give Buster 24 hours on a drip to see if he could recover, but it would have only bought him months at best, and his spark had gone, I normally let mine go early and don’t see that, but you can tell in their eyes when they are ready. I’m glad for your sake that DD is so astute about it, although that must also be breaking your heart
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 17, 2018, 13:18:49 PM
Sometimes, life sucks. It's never easy at times like this.  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 17, 2018, 20:20:29 PM
Have had a long chat with dh, and he's agreed she really not herself she's not eaten all her tea, going to have a very honest chat with the vet on Friday about our feelings and what is in bellas best interests and take it from there.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 17, 2018, 21:38:19 PM
Personally I think that is the best course of action you CAN take. Listen to the Vet, to your heart and do the best thing for Bella, as I am sure that you will.

It won't be nice, but I am sure that your Husband and Daughter will understand that Bella's interests have to come first.

My heart and thoughts are with you at this difficult time.

I do agree with Dawn though, better a touch early than too late when Bella's life becomes a chore to her. :care: :care: :care:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 18, 2018, 06:55:35 AM
Thinking of you all Xx  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 18, 2018, 08:02:45 AM
How is Bella today? xxx
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 18, 2018, 08:30:33 AM
She's looking a bit brighter,  I'm not as got up at 1am to give her, her tablet but if that's what I have to do so be it. Her breathing doesn't seem as laboured this morning so hopefully she's a bit more comfy. Dd told me she cried all day at school yesterday (I work 12 hour shifts so didn't see her till this morning) and this morning we've discussed that we might need to put her to sleep and why, she's upset but understands
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 18, 2018, 13:49:12 PM
I think asking your vet what they would do if it was their cat is the best thing you can do. Poor DD
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 19, 2018, 05:38:21 AM

Wishing Bella all the best for today's vet visit  :care: :care:

Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 19, 2018, 06:55:57 AM
Sending my thoughts  to you all too.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 19, 2018, 07:38:55 AM
Thanks everyone she's not at the vets till 5pm so dh can come. She pee'd a lot yesterday and actually looks less like a barrel, she seemed comfier when resting and jumped onto the back of the sofa (her napping place).
 Poor jess is beside herself, we got jess at 11weeks old when Bella was 2. Bella mothered her, jess was abandoned in a carrier as a tiny kitten and hand raised so Bella is the only mum she's known, both me and dh think jess knows Bella is ill, jess is so quite and looks so sad, she even let Bella clean her last night with no complaints.  So am now trying to comfort jess and dd. Dd has said she wants to come to the vets tonight but wants to sit in the waiting room and then I can explain what he's said. Sorry if this is rambling but got up at 1am to give Bella her tablet and didn't go back to sleep till 4
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 19, 2018, 07:47:37 AM
Not rambling at all, but even if it was, you can do that safely with us.   :hug: :hug:  I can understand your DD wanting to accompany you.  This is a big learning curve for her, and she wants to adopt responsibility, knowing how hard that can be.  She's a young lady you can be proud of.  She understands the value of love and loving.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 19, 2018, 09:29:49 AM

Sounds like the furosemide is doing its work.  It will make Bella very thirsty so need to ensure water bowls are kept topped up.  I used to medicate Boris every 8 hours so know well how tiring that is  :hug:

One of the side effects of Furosemide to watch for is possible low potassium due to lots of peeing.  That showed itself with Boris with him going off food and unable to jump due to muscle weakness. 

You're on a horrible ride but sounds like Bella more comfy and the fact she was grooming Jess sounds very positive  :)

I'm still not sure whether I did the right thing nursing Boris so intensely those last 4 months.  It was very hard.  He was uncomfortable every so often as I learned to adjust Furosemide dose in response to his respiration rates but I just hope he was OK most of the time.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 19, 2018, 10:19:36 AM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: Thinking of you all.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 19, 2018, 12:39:15 PM
Good luck this afternoon, sounds like the meds are working. Lovely that DD is being brave enough to come with you.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 19, 2018, 18:19:50 PM
Had a long chat with the vet and he's lovely, he said it sounds like she had a crisis but is slowly improving with the medication. At this point in time he thinks she's still got quality of life so wouldn't recommend putting her to sleep, but if she has another crisis it may well be time. Then found out she's got a temp, so he thinks she's got a virus and because everything came on so quickly that may have triggered her breathing problems. He said if that is the cause once she's better we may have her with us for a while longer, injection of antibiotics and he's dropped her furosemide to 2 times a day. Far better news then we were expecting :)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 19, 2018, 19:16:18 PM
Am so pleased.   :)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: heather sullivan on January 19, 2018, 19:30:01 PM
Fingers crossed the infection made her ill and she perks up soon x
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 19, 2018, 20:22:27 PM
Fingers crossed it was the infection and you have lots more quality time
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 19, 2018, 23:22:20 PM
That is really good news, hopefully she is with you for longer. :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 22, 2018, 08:05:29 AM
How are things with you this morning?  Hoping that Bella - and all of you -  have had a better and more comfortable weekend.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 22, 2018, 08:12:37 AM
Thank you all for your kind  words, she's slowly picking up, she's back to eating most her food and is taking her medication with a few dreamies and bits of cheese as a bribe. I know the cheese isn't the healthiest but the vet said at this point it's more important to get the medication into her. Her breathing is settling her respiratory rate is 32 but the vet is happy with that given her heart. 
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 22, 2018, 08:52:29 AM
At this stage, I don't think I'd worry about her enjoying cheese.   :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 26, 2018, 07:26:19 AM
I swear she is trying to put me in a early grave. Just came down and couldn't find her anywhere, even rattling the dreamies didn't bring her out. Finally found her under the sofa and she still wouldn't come out for dreamies , mind went into overdrive has she had a stroke/broken a bone/got a blood cut, sofa to heavy for me to lift. On phone to dh in a panic when she walks out the other side of the sofa as if to say what are you on about, and yes she has had some of the dreamies
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 26, 2018, 08:20:45 AM
 :hug: :hug:  Sounds like one typical cat.   :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 26, 2018, 21:25:14 PM
:hug: :hug:  Sounds like one typical cat.   :evillaugh:

Absolutely, send Meouwmy into a total panic and wander out wondering what all of the fuss was about. :naughty:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 30, 2018, 07:38:17 AM
How is Bella today?   :)
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 30, 2018, 19:53:38 PM
She's okayish, bit sleepy but then eating all her food and she looks comfy.
Just got the remainder for her boosters for next month but can't decide if we should have them done or not.  Just think it's another stress she can do without
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 30, 2018, 23:31:50 PM
TBH, if she isn't going out then I wouldn't bother, if she does, probably best in case her immune system is compromised. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on January 31, 2018, 06:03:57 AM
All three cats are house cats the other two are upto date with there's
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 31, 2018, 06:58:03 AM
I probably wouldn't get her boosters done either at this point.    :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Liz on January 31, 2018, 06:59:23 AM
I wouldn't have them done no point in stressing her out over it, she will have immunity anyway from her previous ones x
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 31, 2018, 08:23:01 AM
I wouldn't bother
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 31, 2018, 16:54:27 PM
"And I am unanimous in that." as Mrs Slocombe would say. :rofl:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on February 01, 2018, 16:26:06 PM
 Just had Bella to the vets for her check up, he's pleased with her, says shes lots brighter than last time, so keep doing what we're doing and if not before see her in a month. Asked him about bellas boosters and he said not to bother having them done
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on February 02, 2018, 05:49:18 AM
Really good news. We need some of that. ;D :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 02, 2018, 06:51:42 AM
Never mind Bella, bless her - I bet that's given you and your Daughter a real boost.   ;D :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on February 02, 2018, 07:54:22 AM
It is,  he was really positive he said hopefully we could have a couple more months with her. He said Bella is such a lovely placid cat (he wouldn't have said that if he'd seen me getting her in her cat basket  :rofl:) and it's lovely how she's bonded with dd
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 02, 2018, 08:05:49 AM
 :evillaugh: :evillaugh:  I bet. 

Our two gurlies can be very snuggley, but try and get them into a carrier, and life and limb are seriously at stake.  :tired:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on February 02, 2018, 08:55:33 AM
glad she is doing well  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on March 02, 2018, 08:06:54 AM
She's not great again, resps up and looking at her you can tell fluids building up, increased her fruisamide to every 8 hours to try and shift it. She's not eating properly, which I'm guessing is because she's uncomfortable, so me and daughter are giving her dreamies as at least she's eating something. If I can get to the shops (snow/ice is bad) we'll get her some chicken/salmon/tuna to tempt her. I've got all my fingers and toes crossed she's picks back up
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 02, 2018, 13:03:29 PM
Adding my thoughts to Bella for her recovery
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on March 03, 2018, 01:13:18 AM
Bella could not have more love and care. I really hope that she picks up again. :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure cry
Post by: girlinleeds on March 03, 2018, 06:38:52 AM
Just woke up after having an awful nightmare where Bella died. Scared to go downstairs now just in case
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 03, 2018, 07:18:38 AM
Sweetheart.  We're here for you, but put your mind at ease and check  :hug:  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on March 03, 2018, 07:40:41 AM
I sent dh to check, she's absolutely fine, brighter than yesterday and has managed to get onto the back of the sofa to sleep, she couldn't manage yesterday
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on March 03, 2018, 08:40:16 AM
That is good news. You are on a roller coaster Honey. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 03, 2018, 12:24:22 PM
An understandable reaction, but am so glad she's fine.  As Paula says, you're on a real rollercoaster right now.   :hug: :hug: 
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on March 10, 2018, 21:49:54 PM
We ended up back at the vets again, we're to keep her on fruisamide 8 hourly from now on. She's happy ish  but is getting worn out so easily, she  has to lay down after walking upstairs, can't always jump on the worktop, that sort of thing. I know that decision is approaching, it's three weeks till daughters birthday I don't know if it's cruel to Bella to try and get her past that. She's not in pain, still eating and still managing to get on the sofa and rest. If she deteriorates again, we've decided that is the point where we say enough but I don't want her to suffer, I hate having this decision,  how do I know when,  it's breaking my heart
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Frances on March 10, 2018, 22:31:18 PM
You might want to have a look at this: http://www.catster.com/lifestyle/cat-health-care-euthanasia-decision-quality-of-life-scale (http://www.catster.com/lifestyle/cat-health-care-euthanasia-decision-quality-of-life-scale)

I’ve never used the quality of life scale (I found this site when I was looking for something else – easily distracted :doh:) but you may find it helpful to assess how Bella is doing both now and subsequently over time and make it more straightforward to identify when, for her, enough is enough.

 :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Rosella moggy on March 11, 2018, 06:40:58 AM

That's a good link Frances.   :thanks:  Wish I'd seen it a while ago.  I may well have said goodbye to Boris sooner  :(

Whatever decision you take should of course be for Bella.  She is the one living with her condition altho I am only too aware of the impact this has on those who love her  :hug: :hug:


Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on March 13, 2018, 09:37:53 AM
Spoke to the vets there happy for us to keep going for the time being, so fingers crossed she gets to daughters birthday xx
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on March 20, 2018, 08:54:06 AM
Just thought I'd do a quick update, Bella is okay, she can no longer get on the worktops, but can manage the table, if I leave a chair out so she can take it in stages, she loves sitting on there so she can see out the window.
 She's not eating as well but will happily eat chicken, dreamies, fish,cheese not sure how much she's just decided that if she doesn't eat her food we'll give her good stuff and how much she really is of her food.
Had another hard talk with daughter,  she's said if possible (depending on bellas condition) when the time comes she wants to come to the vets to say goodbye, but not be in the room when it happens. I want her to be as involved as possible as Bella really is her cat.
Me and dh have decided no more vets trip for Bella until its time, it's now stressing her out too much and it's taking her days to recover, we've not given up just want to do the right thing for Bella. It's under 2 weeks till daughters birthday we're hoping she will make it, her quality of life is sliding but we're not quite there yet
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on March 20, 2018, 10:45:43 AM
My heart goes out to you all. :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 20, 2018, 13:29:03 PM
  Mine too.  I hope that Bella makes it to your daughter's birthday, but more importantly, that her quality of life is good until then.  Personally, I think it's lovely that your daughter wants to attend, and understand she may not feel up to actually spending those last moments with Bella.  It's always a difficult one to call, for any of us.  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Kay and Penny on March 20, 2018, 14:46:03 PM
have you considered having the vet come to you when the time comes? it would save you and Bella that final last horrible trip, and allow you to arrange things as you would wish
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Liz on March 20, 2018, 18:23:23 PM
A home visit may be the way forward no stress for any of you as its at home and it means Bella will pass in her home,  vet can then take her away for cremation - that's what we do if we go that route and get them all back home - we have a full set of Clan cats and dogs on the shelves in our bedroom

We are lucky that our vets have a lovely quiet room with couches and the like so its like your sitting room at home and its very peaceful x
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on March 21, 2018, 06:47:00 AM
I wish my vet had somewhere like that. The people themselves are very good though.

I also really hope that Bella lasts a few weeks more so your Daughter's Birthday isn't tainted. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on March 29, 2018, 10:04:14 AM
While at the vets last night with jess had a talk about bella. He agreed the time is fast approaching, but as she's not suffering at the moment he's happy for us to keep going until after daughters birthday on Monday.  We had a discussion about home vs the practice and decided we'll take her to the practice.  This is mainly for daughters benefit, because I don't want the house to be the place where she remembers Bella dying if that makes sense.  For the next week Bella is going to be spoilt rotten, chicken, tuna, salmon,  dreamies whatever she wants and then we'll say goodbye :(
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on March 29, 2018, 10:07:45 AM
I'm sorry that the vet thinks it is nearly her time. I understand about taking her to the vet, it is why I don't have house calls, I don't want to look at a part of my house and remember that is where x was pts
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on March 29, 2018, 10:20:00 AM
I'm so sorry to hear it is nearly time - you couldn't have been more loved that is for sure  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 29, 2018, 12:43:19 PM
Adding my thoughts to the others.  Bella has done so well, you and your daughter have done so well, and you all love each other so much, which is the most beautiful thing in the world.  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 02, 2018, 08:09:39 AM
Well Bella has made it to daughters birthday, I swear she knows it's her birthday and has fought to get here. Dh is going to contact the vets tomorrow and arrange an appointment for Thursday unless she deteriorates before then. She's fought so hard but it's time for us to say we love you to much to see you suffer
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 05, 2018, 07:10:39 AM


Sweetheart.    You're very much in my thoughts  :hug: :hug: 

Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 05, 2018, 07:30:43 AM
I'm not sure if I'm strong enough to get through today, dh at work so I've got the job of telling dd that today is the day. Appointment is booked for 430, I know in my head it's the right decision, her breathing is becoming worse and she's not even bothering to sunbathe anymore, but my heart isn't and never will be ready.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on April 05, 2018, 08:13:40 AM
my thoughts will be with you all, I've been worrying about you with purrs being down and not being able to get support  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 05, 2018, 08:24:15 AM
No.  We're never "ready" no matter how much we try to prepare.  I hope that you can all be strong for each other, and to give Bella the very best farewell that she can have. 
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 05, 2018, 09:18:15 AM
Thanks everyone, have managed to get Bella curled up on the kitchen table on a blanket, enjoying the sun coming through the window. I'm glad there's some sun and she can enjoy a last sunbathe xx
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 05, 2018, 13:18:52 PM
Have told dd, she knew as soon as I opened my mouth. She's spent some time sat with Bella talking and cuddling her, and she's allowed to give her as many dreamies as she wants. She's asked me to stay with Bella for the injection as dh is scared of needles, she's currently sat on the sofa with Bella curled up next to her, she keeps giving her a stroke and crying 
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on April 05, 2018, 13:40:51 PM
Thinking of you today, as Sue says, we are never ready, but you are letting her go with dignity. Your last post brought tears to my eyes
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 05, 2018, 13:57:08 PM
Try to stay focused on the fact that you're giving Bella a final kindness.  It's not a betrayal, it's an act of love from all of you to her.  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on April 05, 2018, 14:30:56 PM
your daughter sounds wonderful, I'm sure she will never forget bella  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 05, 2018, 17:14:46 PM
She's gone xx
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Liz on April 05, 2018, 18:11:56 PM
I hope it was a peaceful passing for all x
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Frances on April 05, 2018, 18:49:14 PM
Thinking of you all :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on April 05, 2018, 19:35:20 PM
Sweetie, I am crying for you all, you and Bella all fought so hard for her, but she is now at peace and no longer struggling. :hug: :hug: :hug: Thinking of you all.

R.I.P Bella. Play hard on The Bridge Little One. :Luv:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 05, 2018, 20:32:05 PM
Love to you all.  Run free little Bella xxx
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 05, 2018, 21:52:24 PM
in the end dh stayed with bella, dd needed me more, so we said goodbye to her in the vets gave her a cuddle and went to sit outside. Dh said they had to give her two sedative injections as she was being feisty but he stroked her and talked to her till the end and said he was surprised how peaceful it was. The vet said to him we had made the right choice as due to the amount of fluid she had, she would have really started to suffer and would have not had much longer left
DD is beyond devastated, when we came back she said to harris and jess "bella has gone now so i promise to look after you if you look after me" that broke me, i laid with dd as she cried herself to sleep. Im completely broken
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on April 05, 2018, 22:02:48 PM
Oh Honey, I wish I could do something to take at least some of your Families pain away, but sadly I can't, but please know that I am thinking of you All. :care: :care: :care: :care: :blow kiss:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on April 06, 2018, 09:05:47 AM
its a well worn phrase but very true  - grief is the price we pay for love - one day your lovely daughter will understand like we all do that these moments are far outweighed by the good times we have  :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 06, 2018, 09:24:17 AM
 We're all abit calmer this morning, tears keep coming every now and again but I know in the end we made the right decision for Bella and she had to come first.
In a few weeks when we all feel stronger, we're going to buy a plant for the garden and a statue to sit with barney's. Jess and Harris don't like dreamies, so we're going to go to the shop buy some more and donate them and bellas stash to the rescue she came from in her memory, dd thinks Bella would like that.
I just want to say a huge big thank you to everyone that has been there for us over the last year, it has been an unbelievable rollercoaster and your support, thoughts and kind words have been appreciated more than I can ever say xxx
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on April 06, 2018, 12:37:35 PM
I'm glad it was peaceful for Bella and the vet confirmed you did it before she started to suffer. Poor DD, she has been so brave about it, you must be so proud of her
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: girlinleeds on April 09, 2018, 10:50:40 AM
I'm am so proud of dd, she's made a Bella out of hama beads this morning, I think shes reached a turning point today. She's barely eaten since Wednesday (she says she's to sad to eat) but this morning she's eaten breakfast and seems a bit more cheerful.
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on April 09, 2018, 12:01:14 PM
She's a brave and courageous young lady.  Bella will be very proud of her, knowing her love and her trust were not misplaced. :hug:
Title: Re: Think bellas just had an absence seizure
Post by: Dawn F on April 09, 2018, 16:14:06 PM
I'm glad she is turning a corner - no wonder you are proud of her, she sounds lovely