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Title: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on December 29, 2016, 19:02:39 PM
My poor old Tabby who is 21 had not eaten since Christmas Eve but drinking lots, she always drinks a lot and just showed no interest in food at all. Took her to vets last night, had to go to a different branch as no vet in my normal one, the chief vet spent an hour with us, well we were the last patient of the day, he kept saying she was sooooo old but he did a blood test and we waited for results. Her WBC was 40.0 and her kidney enzymes were raised too.(around 42).  He was worried about kidney failure. Also said one kidney was bigger than the other. He kept calling her Grandma too, poor Tabby was not impressed!!!  :-[  He wanted to keep her in overnight on a drip but we settled for antibiotic injection, a huge bolus of fluid under the skin as she was dehydrated and to bring her back this morning to go on a drip all day. I spoke to him this afternoon and he said she had blood in her urine, a lot, so could be an infection or something serious higher up. Not worth going down the route of xrays ultrasounds etc in a cat that age, but he did say she had eaten a mouthful of food today which is a good sign. So she is staying in on a drip tonight, had more antibiotics and will see how she is tomorrow. She is a little fighter, am hoping its just an infection and she will pull through :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Dawn F on December 29, 2016, 20:14:34 PM
Poor tabby fingers crossed she perks up
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: sheilarose on December 29, 2016, 20:17:24 PM
Is Tabby concentrating her urine?
Poor girl, Grandma indeed!
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on December 29, 2016, 20:39:10 PM
her urine is normally dilute as she drinks lots and lots. she is on semintra for her kidneys as she also got thyroid problem.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 29, 2016, 23:32:13 PM
SENDING LOADS OF GOOD WISHES FOR TABBY THE YOUNGSTER  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Rosella moggy on December 30, 2016, 06:05:27 AM
Hoping Tabby responded well overnight Heather and starts eating again  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on December 30, 2016, 09:02:36 AM
Just rang the vets they said she is a bit brighter this morning and has nibbled some food and biscuits again. Will ring back later this afternoon for an update.
Finger's crossed for my girl! Thanks all x :Luv:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on December 30, 2016, 13:22:14 PM
Very glad to hear that Tabby seems to be responding to treatment  ;D
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 30, 2016, 15:09:45 PM
HOPE THIS CONTINUES AND TABBY IS BACK HOME SOON  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sonya(Buttersmum) on December 30, 2016, 17:43:09 PM
Sending lots of  :hug: :hug: :hug: for Tabby. Get well soon  :)
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on December 30, 2016, 19:58:55 PM
Spoke to vet nurse today, Tabby had comfortable night and seemed a little brighter today, she has eaten small amounts and a few kibbles and no more blood in her wee. She is staying in again overnight on her drip and hopefully will come home tomorrow midday as they close for the New Year. Miss my little geriatric moggy, so still hoping its just an infection she had and nothing worse! :Luv:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 30, 2016, 23:33:48 PM
SOUNDS GOD AND SHE WILL BE HOME  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on December 30, 2016, 23:54:06 PM
I hope that Tabby will be home and a lot better tomorrow. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: alisonandarchie on December 31, 2016, 11:20:33 AM
Hoping Tabby had a good night and will be home today :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on December 31, 2016, 12:54:56 PM
She is home, rather wobbly but curled up next to radiator in her fave place. TUrned her nose up at the food :innocent: Hoping she feels hungry later as got antbiotic pills to give her tonight.....
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sonya(Buttersmum) on December 31, 2016, 13:27:16 PM
Great news Heather, glad Tabby is home, she will soon perk up with lots of  :hug:  :)
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 31, 2016, 14:54:42 PM
DO HOPE SHE WILL START EATING  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on December 31, 2016, 15:14:10 PM
Glad that your girl is home, where she belongs  ;D
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: sheilarose on December 31, 2016, 15:19:13 PM
Do you have some lick-e-licks Heather? I swear by them for disguising a crushed pill. Otherwise a good gob of butter helps the pill go down.

Hope she recovers soon. Have a peaceful evening x

Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on December 31, 2016, 16:38:04 PM
Sheila put me onto these as well and they do work ;) ;D
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on December 31, 2016, 18:24:08 PM
just got home and went up to see her, she hadnt touched her food i left earlier, but i got some asda tiger mousse and put it on a plate and she started licking it. I then got a lick e lix and squirted some on the plate and she licked all that off too, so everything crossed she is feeling a bit better now as she must have eaten about 3/4 teaspoon of food as well as the lick -e  lix! so will try and hide the antibiotic in it later on for her :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 31, 2016, 18:45:10 PM
MINE WONT TOUCH IT!

MAYBE I SHOULD DONATE 30 BOXES TO SHEILA LOL
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 03, 2017, 22:17:30 PM
Tabby is still just about eating the antibiotic in her Lick-e-lix but not much else, had a few biscuits here and there. I bought her some Royal Canin 12+ biscuits which are meant to boost their appetite :P  She seems interested in food, has a few licks when i put something down but then turns away.  SHe is on Clavaseptin, I googled it and it says side effects are nausea, loss of appetite and diarrhea, which she has in small amounts, but then she isnt eating much. Not sure whether to ring the vet tomorrow or not, they did say they wanted to keep her on a drip a bit longer but they were closing down for new year.  Do I wait another day or so or should I ring?  :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Liz on January 04, 2017, 06:40:35 AM
I would ask the vet for an anti nausea and a Vit B shot seems to perk up the appetite when mine need a boost - also have you tried the Complivit food supplement wonderful stuff 1 pump equals a 4 kg cats full days calories looks a bit like Bovril and can be got at most vets about £15.00 a tube for a better word but has been a god send with my oldies and it can be pumped straight in to the mouth as well
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 04, 2017, 16:41:04 PM
I WOULD RING
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 04, 2017, 17:55:29 PM
After giving Tabby a bit of a teary pep talk last night, telling her she had to eat or she would fade away, I woke up at 630am, went into the bathroom where she is camped out by the radiator to see a clean bowl! She had eaten everything overnight, also ate some breakfast and when I got home today at 430pm she ate some more felix in gravy :innocent: She still has the runs though, and there were a few blobs of not quite completely runny poos in her tray. I bought her some new litter, the Sanicat one which is like granules of sand, thinking it would be better for her. Big mistake! Where she had sat down in the litter tray she had loads of sand stuck all round her butt hole, so I spent ages picking it all off and washing her bum. She was not impressed! have replaced it now with her normal litter. So everything crossed now she is getting her appetite back and I can restart her thyroid/kidney meds again. That's another bunch of greys hairs for me for 2017 ;D
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on January 04, 2017, 19:21:19 PM
Attagirl Tabby!
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sonya(Buttersmum) on January 04, 2017, 19:59:13 PM
Aww that's good news glad she's eating again  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 04, 2017, 22:52:41 PM
Hope her appetite continues to improve Heather  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on January 05, 2017, 16:15:22 PM
How is our little lady today?
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 05, 2017, 19:12:32 PM
Tabby not eaten quite so much today, but still loving her lick e lix with her meds in so that's good.  Have tried 3 different kinds of food for madam, the only one she attempted was felix in jelly, she licked all the jelly off but she has eaten quite a few biscuits.  She has had the squits for a few days, but so far today nothing in the tray. Not sure if that's a good sign or not............. ;D
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: alisonandarchie on January 05, 2017, 21:53:11 PM
Glad she is taking her meds ;D

Have you tried the gourmet soups :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 06, 2017, 00:00:46 AM
yes tried the gourmet soups spent a fortune in pets at home at the weekend stocking up on various foods to tempt her.  Luckily we have 2 other cats and a stray cat we feed so once I have opened a tin and she turns her nose up, the other 3 get a nice treat!  Update on her - she has now been in her tray and done 2 little solid poops and a runny one :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: alisonandarchie on January 06, 2017, 07:36:41 AM
Eating issues are very stressful :hug: Good job you have the other cats to feed :hug:

Glad she has pooped :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 06, 2017, 09:03:46 AM
Sending gentle hugs to you both, Heather.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 22, 2017, 19:18:37 PM
Tabby has been off her anti biotics for a week now and has started not to eat again.......... been tempting her with lick e lix, and a whole variety of different foods but she keeps turning her nose up. I will ring the vets tomorrow and ask their advice. She has lost so much weight, she is like a little feather weight but still walking around, jumping on my bed, and purring............. :( :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 22, 2017, 20:01:50 PM
I AM SO SORRY HEATHER AND HOPE THE VET CAN HELP HER  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 22, 2017, 21:00:36 PM
thanks Gill I hope so too.  :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 23, 2017, 09:53:10 AM
Oh Heather.  That doesn't sound like it's what you need right now.  Am hoping the vet may be able to make some suggestions.  Sending very gentle ear rubs to Tabby xx :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 23, 2017, 15:23:23 PM
Thank you. We are off to the vets at 4.15 pm today. Will update later :Luv:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 23, 2017, 17:21:46 PM
Will keep fingers firmly crossed, Heather. 
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 23, 2017, 17:35:43 PM
We're back. Had a long chat with nice vet and she felt underneath her, said her bladder neck felt quite lumpy but could be due to inflammation or possible tumour. She said her bladder felt quite empty, which was good. Tabby was quite dehydrated again so she had some sub-cutaneous fluids under the skin, 4 lots, and also a steroid injection, so if she has inflammation in bladder it will help. She is also on antibiotics for another week and has to go back next monday for a check up or sooner if  she gets worse.  I said she had tried to wee earlier but only a drip came out, and also saturday night she overshot her litter tray and there was a tiny blob of blood in it, so am hoping and crossing everything it is an infection/inflammation and nothing worse. Have also bought some expensive food from the wet to see if she will start eating again :innocent:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 23, 2017, 17:45:39 PM
I DO HOPE ALL THIS HELPS HER HEATHER, SUCH A TERRIBLE WORRY WHEN ITS ALL IFS AND MAYBEES.

HOPEFULLY THE FLUIDS WILL HELP REHYDRATE HER.........IS SHE DRINKING?  AND THE INECTION AND ABS WILL HELP.

GENTLE CUDDLES TO TABBY FROM ME AND ALSO LOOK AFTER YOURSELF COS KNOW HOW HARD ALL THIS IS  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 23, 2017, 17:51:11 PM
Thanks Gill. She is drinking quite a lot, but she looks better after having the fluids. She just sits on the vets table and doesn't move, with a blank expression, think she is used to it now. She seems fine in herself although lost a lot of weight, also as the vet said, because she hasn't had her thyroid pills for a while that doesnt help either.

Have you heard how Misa is doing today? :Luv:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 23, 2017, 18:03:02 PM
 POOR TABBY AND YES IT WONT HELP WITHOUT THYROID PILLS AND MISAS T4 LEVELS WENT CRAZY HIGH.

YES HAVE UPDATED HIS THREAD AND THINK HE IS OK BUT THEY DIDNT RING ME LIKE THEY SAID THEY WOUD SO IN A PANIC WHEN I RANG. I HOPE THEY WILL DO BETTER TOMORROW COS HADNT HEARD ANYTHING EXEPT A MINUTE ON FRI!

ITS JUST SO WORRYING WHEN YOU ARE SO FAR AWAY IF THEY DO NOT STAY IN TOUCH LIKE THEY PROMISED.

WE LOVE OUR CATS SO MUCH AND SPEND ALL THEIR LIVES WITH THEM ALL THIS IS SO HARD  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 23, 2017, 18:20:21 PM
Topping up the snoozles, and glad the examination went well.  lets hope the injection will sort things out toot sweet.  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Dawn F on January 24, 2017, 08:44:02 AM
fingers crossed for you and tabby  :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 24, 2017, 22:44:14 PM
Tabby ate quite a bit last night and some biscuits. Today she has had a lick e lix with her antibiotic, then she ate a morsel of A/D food and a teaspoon of gourmet and then went in the bathroom and threw it all up half an hour later :sick: :sick: Now she won't eat anything. Will try again later :'( :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 24, 2017, 23:13:54 PM
OH DEAR POOR TABBY, I HOPE YOU CAN ETHER TO EAT A LITTLE LATER  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 25, 2017, 06:43:44 AM
How has she been overnight, Heather?
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 25, 2017, 18:33:15 PM
She didnt eat anything overnight but hopped up and down off my bed to have a drink and use her tray for a widdle (fell off a few times even though she has some pillows on the floor as a step) :innocent:. this morning she ate a lick e lix but when i put her pill in some she refused. Ended up smearing it on her leg, i think she licked most of it off, although I may find a lump when I get into bed tonight!  Just got home and stopped off to get some of the cat soups, i am running out of ideas. But she looked quite interested and licked all the soupy sauce and left the lumps of tuna/shrimp. Her mouth seems quite sore. I know they can get mouth ulcers with kidney disease, but she also has some bad teeth. But at least she has got a good amount of fish soupy sauce down, well its prob about a desert spoonful.  I expect she will refuse her meds again tonight. Have bought another tube of Canigest so may crush up her pill put it in a dollop of that and smear that on her leg............
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 25, 2017, 19:56:15 PM
SUCH A WORRY HEATHER , I HOPE SHE WILL BE OK  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 25, 2017, 20:14:47 PM
It's  horrible when they get old and start getting problems, she has been such a healthy cat up till the last few months. I know at her age (nearly 22) she has done well but I wish they could talk and find out how they feel and what is wrong. :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 25, 2017, 21:07:42 PM
YES I SO AGREE WITH YOU AND PLEASE GIVE HER GENTLE STROKE FROM ME  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 26, 2017, 13:38:40 PM
I think all of us would give good money to be able to have a conversation with our cats where they told us what was wrong and how they're feeling.   :hug: :hug:  Sending more gentle snoozles for Tabby and hoping you can get some food inside her. 
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on January 26, 2017, 15:59:23 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: to you and to Tabby, I hope she is eating today. :Luv:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 26, 2017, 19:17:36 PM
Tabby has eaten another lick e lix this afternoon, she wasn't impressed this morning when I crushed up her antibiotic and mixed it with a thyroid pill with a dollop of Canigest and then smeared it all round her mouth :( But she ate the lick e lix and then lapped another spoonful of a cat soup, i had to squeeze the soup out of pk and leave the lumpy bits behind. She can't eat anything lumpy I am sure her mouth is sore, will get vet to check her again next Monday when we go back (if not before). SHe is drinking a lot of water so hopefully keep herself hydrated.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on January 26, 2017, 19:32:43 PM
Sorry to hear that your girl is still given cause for concern  :( Sending gentle snoozles for Tabby and  :hug: for you.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on January 26, 2017, 21:36:19 PM
Sorry to hear Tabby is feeling poorly  :hug: It may be that biscuits are too sore for her mouth at the moment so perhaps they could be softened with water but I can highly recommend Royal Canin Exigent Savour Sensation 35/30 (there's a few different types but the 35/30 is like kitty crack) they were literally a life saver for Riley when he had his mystery hunger strike and refused EVERY food, human and cat food alike, but was more than happy to eat this. You can buy the small bags in places like Jollyes and Pets at Home, if she takes to it the bigger bags are much cheaper from Zooplus/Amazon.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 27, 2017, 06:54:00 AM
Sending tons of love for Tabby, heather, and hoping that you can get her mouth checked out to find out what may be causing her discomfort.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 27, 2017, 17:48:24 PM
Tabby is lapping up the juice out of the little cat soups but def a problem in her mouth. We are back to the vets Monday night for a check up.  Will ask nice vet to check her mouth while i am there. She didn't want to do it last week, she was more concerned in saying her bladder neck felt lumpy but hoping thats just inflammation. She is doing pretty big wees at the moment so don't think too much cause for concern. One of my friends is a retired surgeon and he said if she has had UTI's then it prob is inflammation and not a tumour. Poor Tabby still not happy taking her meds, so I have been squishing it up still and smearing it round her mouth, she is not impressed, the look she gave me was :censored: :evillaugh: Thanks Tiggy's mum for the Royal Canin kitty crack but I don't think she will eat biscuits at the moment.......... the ones I have for her she has not touched.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 27, 2017, 18:35:58 PM
Will she eat pate type food Heather?  You could try mashing it up with a little water or some of the "soup" meals.  Poor little lamb chop.  She must be feeling quite fed up.  :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 27, 2017, 18:51:00 PM
I USED TO ADD WATER TO THE SMOOTH PATES AND THEN THEY CAN LAP IT UP.

MAY HELP TO ADD WARM WATER IF COLD DOESNT WORK.

I THINK ITS UMMMMMMMMM GEEZ CANT REMMEBR THE MAKE BUT OCEAN FISH ALWAYS WENT DOWN WELL WITH YT LATE DUCHA.

ITS A SMOOTH ONE COS NOT ALL ARE AND SOLD IN TESCOS
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 27, 2017, 19:17:19 PM
yes i did try the pate and water last week but she didn't want to know. Now she seems a bit interested I will try it again. have just ordered some whiskas creamy food soup as well for tomorrow, she may like the sauce in that. She used to be such a good eater, at least 3 sachets a day, now she is all shrivelled up :(  but now she is eating soupy bits hopefully she will fill out again. ALso need to get the thyroid pills in her. It's a full time job looking after geriatric/poorly cats! :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on January 27, 2017, 20:52:33 PM
I remember when my Chivvy was recovering from his broken jaw, the vet gave me a tin of stuff that got more liquid when it was stirred. I used to stir it until it was the consistency I wanted - very runny at first but gradually getting thicker. Have you asked your vet for advice?
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 27, 2017, 20:55:54 PM
Yes its a tin of A/D by Hills.  I got a tin from the vet last week but she turned her nose up! £2.49 as well >:(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Lyn (Slugsta) on January 27, 2017, 21:22:02 PM
Yes its a tin of A/D by Hills.  I got a tin from the vet last week but she turned her nose up! £2.49 as well >:(

Typical!  :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 28, 2017, 00:45:32 AM
MY ELDERLY KOCKA LIVED ON AD DIET FOR ABOUT 3 YEARS AND I USED TO FEED HER FROM MY FINGER, EVENTUALLY A SPOON BUT HAD TO CRAWL AROUND THE FLOOR AFTER HER AND IT WOULD KEEP IN THE FRIDGE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.

IT WAS A REAL EFFORT DOING THIS EVERY DAY AND SHE WOULD HAVE A COUPLE OF LICKS AND MOVE AWAY, I FOLLOWED AND OVER A DAY WOULD BE VERY HAPPY IF I GOT 1/2 TIN INTO HER.

I ALSO USED TO LEAVE DOWN OTHER FOODS AND SOMETIMES SHE WOULD EAT THE JELLY PARTS OF TINS OF WHISKERS, CANT REMEMBER WHICH FLAVOUR NOW.

SHE WAS A LIGHTWEIGHT AND PROBABLY HAD HYPER T AND KIDNEY PROBS BUT I DIDNTKNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT IN THOSE DAYS.

SHE ALSO HAD BLOOD PRESSURE TABS WHICH WERE VERY TINY AND USED TO MASH AND INCLUDE IN AD ON FINGER IN MINI BITS, COS SHE HAD DETACHING RETINAS.

DUCHA MY OTHER FEATHER WEIGHT USED TO EAT THE OCEAN FISH PATE WATERED DOWN.

WHAT WE DO FOR THOSE WE LOVE AND HAVE LOVED FOR SO LONG IS HARD AND PAINSTKING AND WITH HINDSIGHT AND MORE KNOWLEDGE AND AS MEDICAL PROCEDURES CHANGE WE WISH AND WISH WE HAD THE KNOWLEDGE BEFORE.

 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 30, 2017, 18:19:51 PM
Back to the vets tonight for Tabby's check up.  She has been eating the cat soups, well I have to squeeze all the liquid out of the packets which she laps up and the other 2 cats get the lumps of chicken and tuna.  She had another bag of subcutaneous fluids, and another steroid injection and also vet said her bladder neck didn't feel quite so lumpy this week, which is good news, so hoping it was inflammation and not a tumour there.  She is on another course of antibiotics for a week, had to drive to their sister vet surgery to get the ones she will eat (Clavaseptin), as she has been hard work trying to get Noroclav down her. I also asked about the thyroid pills, and we are trying her on the ear gel, as easier to do that than get pills down her. She weighed her again and she is 2.2.  At Christmas she weighed 2.7 but where she hasn't been eating and not taking her thyroid pills she said that is to be expected. She also looked in her mouth, picked a big lump of tartar off one tooth and said a bottom one looks a bit sore, but she hasn't many teeth left. So we will see how she goes for the next week. My poor bank account :'(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 30, 2017, 18:41:11 PM
I HOPE THATSHE CAN PUT ON A BIT OF WEIGHT COS THAT IS ABOUT HOW MUCH DUCHA WEIGHED BUT HE ONLY HAD 3 LEGS.

GOOD NEWS ABOUT HER BLADDER AND HOPE THAT SHE CAN START EATING AGAIN  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 30, 2017, 18:46:50 PM
She is a very small cat anyway, but yes I am hoping if her thyroid can get medicated again she will put on weight.  I cleared the shelf in Sainsbury's today of all their cat soups as they were on special offer at 60p :naughty: Just bit worried about starting her on the thyroid gel, I don't like starting new meds (prob being a medical secretary for years doesn't help ;D)!
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Liz on January 30, 2017, 19:55:55 PM
For weight gain and maintenance for my oldies we use Complivit - 1 pump is equal to a 4kg cats full days calories and it can be pumped straight in their mouth for the one pump my oldies are on 2 a day each as it does get cold up here and both look well on it - we pay about £15.00 a bottle pump of it and it kept some of my ill ones alive for longer than the vets expected it looks like Bovril - mixes well in the soup stuff :)
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 30, 2017, 22:00:58 PM
VERY DIFFICULY WITH MEDS AND THE ONLY THING I HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE GEL IS TO WATCH OUT FOR ITCHING AND INFLAMMATION.

THE ONLY OTHER ONE IS THE ONE MISA WAS ON.......THYRONORM WHICH IS A LIQUID AND WOULD GO IN THE SOUP.

IT IS THE LIQUID VERSION OF FEMIAZOLE SP? WHICH HAS 3 NAMES FOR SAME PRODUCT .

I PUT IT IN THE GRAVY FROM MONS PETIT WITH ALL LUMPS TAKEN OUT. YOU NEED TO PUT IT IN A SMALL AMOUNT OF YOUR SOUP THAT SHE LIKES TO MAKE SURE ALL LICKED UP THEN ADD THE REST OF LIQUID OF THE  SOUP. IT HAS A HONEY FLAVOUR IN IT WHICH MISA LOVED.

WHAT EVER THE DOSEAGE OF MEDS SHE WAS GETTING BEFORE IF FEMIAZOLE YOU WOULD GIVE THE SAME AMOUNT.

IY COMES IN A SPECIAL BOTTLE THAT YOU INSERT THE ACCOMPANYING SYRINGE INTO AND THEN IT HAS FRADUATED SECTIONS SOYOU GET THE RIGHT DOSAGE.

WE STARTED MISA OFF AT A HALF THE BASIC DOSAGE AND BUILT IT UP BUT NEVER GOT HIS HYPER T FULLUUNDER CONTROL BECAUSE I GOT ILL.

I SPOKE TO THE VET AT THE COMPANY AND ALTHOUGH IT SAYS NOT, IT IS PERFECTLY OK TO PUT IT IN GRAVY OR SOUP IN TABBYS CASE.

THE 30ML BOTTLE WAS OUT OF STOCK AT END OF NOV BUT CONTRARY TO WHAT REPS WERE SAYING THE 100ML BOTTLE WAS AVAILABLE.

IF I COULD GET OUT I WOULD SEND YOU MISAS GRRRRRRRRR

MY VET HAD NEVER HEARD OF IT BEFORE COS ITS VERY NEW,

IN THE STATES ITS NOT AVAIABLE BUT THEIR PHARMACYS MAKE A LIQUID VERSION THEMSELVES BY CRUSHING UP FEMIAZOLE ADDING LIQUID AND ADDING LCHICKEN OR FISH FLAVOUR.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 30, 2017, 23:15:46 PM
I am going to put the gel in her ear tomorrow, just in case she has a reaction tonight, think she has been through enough today with vet trip, fluids, steriods, antibiotics etc.  She has been chomping on some biscuits when i went up to see her just now, and happy so thats good. She does get itching with the Felimazole too, but will see how she goes.  The steroid always seems to give her a boost for a day or so. My vet never mentioned the one you had for Misa, Gill, but I will mention it next week when I go, just to see if she has used it before. Will be interesting. She is very nice, doesn't seem to want to rush you out like some vets do either :)
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 31, 2017, 02:26:44 AM
I SUSPECT SHE WILL NOT KNOW OF IT AND TRIED TO FIND OUT IF LANGFORD DID BUT THEY DIDNT/WOULDNT SAY..SHOULD HAVE PRESSED BUT TOO STRESSED
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on January 31, 2017, 18:41:11 PM
i put the gel in her ear this morning, and she seemed fine. Today she has eaten quite a lot, so fingers crossed!! :Luv:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 31, 2017, 19:49:28 PM
GREAT NEWS AND HOPING THIS CONTINUES  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: alisonandarchie on January 31, 2017, 21:23:24 PM
GREAT NEWS HEATHER HAVE FINGERS CROSSED :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on February 07, 2017, 19:34:40 PM
Tabby still eating but just cat soup, lots of gravy squished out of the felix packets and she did eat a bit of gourmet last night, but made a mess trying to eat it on my carpet :P  I have a horrible feeling now that her eyesight has nearly gone as she was walking around my landing last night and kept bumping into things.  SHe can still find her way up and down from my bed and her litter tray, water and food so hoping she has a bit of sight left. just worried where she has been off her thyroid meds her blood pressure has gone up which can cause blindness.  I am putting the thyroid gel in her ears twice a day so hopefully it will help. But she is still a happy purring little cat at the moment. I also ordered some Complivit which arrived today so will mix that in with her gravy dishes.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 07, 2017, 19:45:44 PM
 IS IT WORTH GETTING YOUR VET TO CHECK HER BLOOD PRESSURE AND GETTING TNOSE MEDS FOR HER.......THEY ARE A TINYTAB AND KOCKA WHO HAD DETACHING RETINAS HAD A QUARTER OF ONE CRUSHED IN AD DIET EATEN OFF MY FINGER.

CATS MANAGE VERY WELL WHEN BLIND AS LONG AS YOU DONT MOVE STUFF AROUND AND ALSO DO NOT SUDDENLY TOUCH THEM, TAP ON FLOOR FIRST COS THEY CAN FEEL THE VIBRATION.

SENDING HER GENTLE STROKES  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on February 07, 2017, 19:48:49 PM
I will speak to my vet Friday when I take Silvie in, and see what she says. Probably will say bring her in, kerching :( :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 09, 2017, 08:34:50 AM
How is Tabby today, Heather? 
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on February 09, 2017, 21:05:16 PM
She seems okay, still eating soupy cat food and doing normal (small) poos.  Her and Silvie are off to vets tomorrow at 5pm, Silvie for her blood test for thyroid and also she has a watery eye and Tabby for a check up.  Tabby woke me up at 3am sitting on my pillow purring :innocent:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 09, 2017, 23:08:49 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOW SWEET TABBY IS  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 10, 2017, 12:44:00 PM
Sending lots and lots of positive vibes for tonight Heather. 

Isn't that just a perfect way to be woken?   ;D   Barley came for her snuggles this morning, and similarly sat on Daddy P's head.   :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on February 10, 2017, 19:11:36 PM
back from the vets now, Tabby has lost more weight (I thought she felt a bit heavier) she now weighs 2.13. It was a different vet and said last time she weighed around 2.20. Also said her heart was very very fast. I said that Tabby is now on the thyroid ear gel and she said it can take 3 weeks to work and she has only been on it 10 days. I know thyroid probs can cause racing heart and weight loss. I said she is eating well at the moment, has had 2 pks of whiskas cat soup today (I have to pick all the lumps of meat out first).  So hoping its the thyroid causing the weight loss. She also said her bladder neck still felt lumpy and could be a growth - or inflammation and also that her kidneys felt really small. Poor Tabby! But she had some more fluids under the skin and is on another course of antibiotics for 3 weeks in case its infection and see how she goes. She came home and ate another 1/2 sachet of cat soup!

Silvie went for her blood test for the thyroid - poor puss had her neck shaved one side and the vet couldn't get any blood out. She then shaved the other side of her neck - still couldn't get the vein to give blood. After another go they thought they would try and get it out of her leg, so she had her leg shaved as well. They then managed to get enough blood out of her leg. I said poor Silvie will need a scarf now she got a baldy neck in this weather. On the plus side she has put on weight since September, then she weighed 4.20 and now she weighs 4.83. She also got bit of an eye infection and a watery discharge so got some eye cream for that.  Will hopefully get thyroid results next week.

Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on February 10, 2017, 19:15:17 PM
How worrying for you :hug: :hug: :hug:, Tabby has a while to go yet for the gel to take effect, as for poor Sylvie's neck, I believe the 'snood' in back in fashion.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on February 10, 2017, 19:36:04 PM
Silvie is avoiding me at the moment giving me dirty looks and running away.  Def needs a little snood to keep her warm now poor little chicken neck :naughty:

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=oFG9Q790&id=8F3BB6B8651EED094F22CCDE821B5901DEE93D03&q=cat+snood&simid=608022462559421704&selectedIndex=0&ajaxhist=0
 :Crazy: :) :)
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 10, 2017, 19:57:24 PM
they couldnt get blood from misas neck either BUT DIDNT TRY BOTH SIDES, JUST ABOUT GOT ENOUGH FROM HIS LEG BUT WAS TOUCH AND GO.

HOW LONG AGO WAS SYLVIE TREATED AND WHAT WAS HER WEIGHT THEN AND NORMALLY?

POOY TABBY, IT IS SO SAD WHEN ONE OF YOUR BEST FRIENDS IS NOT DOING THAT WELL  :hug: :hug:

I DONT THINK SYLIVE WOULD THANK YOU FOR A SNOOD  :evillaugh: :evillaugh:

THE OTHER THING IS IF THEY ARE SCARED THEIR HEARTS  RACE AND MISA AND SASA ALWAYS HAVE RACING HEARTS AT VETS, I DONT THINK IN 12 YEARS ITS EVER BEEN ANY DIFFERENT.

SENDING LOTS OF GOOD VIBES FOR TABBY AND CUDDLES TO BOTH
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on February 10, 2017, 20:07:02 PM
Silvie had her RI treatment end of May 2016 - I can't remember what she weighed, I think it was around 3.5 or thereabouts. She has def put on a lot of weight now! I know she was light when I picked her up, now she is heavy - and a little porker!  yes I am hoping Tabby's racing heart was due to being a bit scared, hoping the thyroid meds start working soon! With all the carry on with the blood taking, I forgot to reorder Tabby's Semintra, will have to ring them tomorrow. Also had to drive over to their other surgery to pick up the antibiotics for Tabby - as even though same ingredients she won't take the ones from my vet surgery, fussy little madam! :innocent:

Thank you for all the good wishes for Tabby :Luv:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 10, 2017, 20:16:30 PM
 SO SILVIE HAS PUT ON OVER A KG SINCE TREATMENT IN 8 MONTHS, SOUNDS GOOD GOING  ;D
 
WOW IF MISA COULD DO THAT HE WOULD BE 5.5 KGS BY LATE SUMMER AND HIS FUR SHOULD ALSO LOOK BETTER I RECKON.  ALSO MAYBE GROW QUICKER COS THIS SUMMER WHEN CUTTING OUT HIS MATTS THE FUR JUST WSNTGROWING AND COULDNT UNDERSTAND WHY.  HE WAS ALSO MATTINGUP AGAIN VERY QUICKLY............IF ONLY I HAD REALIZED HE WAS ILL SOONER.  :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on February 10, 2017, 20:32:28 PM
yes she has put on a lot of weight, looks really good now, nice thick fur too. The vet I saw tonight who hasn't seen her since she had her RI treatment, said how well she looked. Just a shame she couldn't get any blood out of her :evillaugh:

Thyroid problems can be very hard to spot, because Silvie had lost weight she had her thyroid tested in June and it was normal. Had a retest end of October and it was sky high! I only had her retested as she was eating a lot but not really putting on weight. Even my vet was surprised how quickly it had shot up!
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 10, 2017, 22:40:21 PM
 YES MISAS SHOT UP BY THE TIME HE GOT TO LANGFORD.

ITS SO GOOD TO HEAR HOW WELL SYLVIE HAS  GOT ON AND GIVES ME HOPE  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on February 11, 2017, 11:20:39 AM
Just had a phone call from the vet, Silvie's thyroid blood tests have come back normal. So that's it, no more blood tests, all looking like she is cured :wow: :wow:.
Now, Misa, it's your turn :Luv:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 11, 2017, 11:27:58 AM
BRIILIANT BRIILIANT  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on March 03, 2017, 17:18:46 PM
Tabby has been doing really well but 2 days ago she stopped eating as much, just nibbling here and there. Today when I got home from work she jumped off my bed but her back legs were really wobbly, she went in her tray and strained to wee, nothing came out, but she managed to do a tiny nugget of poo then  walked across my room and lay down flat out.  I lifted her up and she walked back into my room still wobbly. I left her for half an hour and went back and she had done another tiny nugget of poo and a tiny wee. But I am worried about her being really wobbly, I know its a sign of kidney failure, and she is like a tiny little featherweight now. I don't really want to take her to the vet and have her stressed, but will see how she is in the morning. I know her time is nearly up, she will be 22 this year, but am I doing the right thing???? :'(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 03, 2017, 17:45:22 PM
Oh Heather.  I empathise.   :'(

I know when Paddy was in his last few months I felt I would let him set the pace.  With hindsight, I was wrong.  I can see now when I should've let go.  As a result, I caused his end to be a rather more painful process than I would have wanted, with the wisdom of hindsight.    It wasn't deliberate.  Just ill-thought out. 

I know how agonising it is to have to make the ultimate decision, and I hope that whatever your heart decides, Tabby has a peaceful end to her life.   :care:  Thinking of you both. 
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 03, 2017, 17:45:37 PM
OH HEATHER IT IS HEART BREAKING  :hug: :hug: :hug:

ITS A GREAT AGE BUT ONLY YOU KNOW WHAT IS BEST.

LOOK IN HER EYES AND AND SEE WHAT SHE TELLS YOU  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on March 03, 2017, 18:08:01 PM
she has been in the tray and done another little wee and now sitting on my bed purring next to the radiator. Have tried to tempt her with some more food. She has a hot water bottle under her and seems okay at the moment. I just wish she was 10 years younger :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 03, 2017, 18:20:34 PM
We know.   :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on March 03, 2017, 18:21:08 PM
It is heartbreaking, my Trouble was only nearly 18 but the vet looked at him, said we can keep him going for longer, but it would have meant a lot of blood tests, pills etc. and when I asked her what she thought she said he was old and tired and she thought the kindest thing would be to let him go. It did really break my heart, but it was the right thing to do. I held him while he went to sleep, although she offered to take him out back to do it. I had him from birth and he knew he was loved right up until his death.

I don't know if it helps or not, I could have prolonged his life, but it would have been for me not for him. Only you can make that decision. I feel for you. :care: :care: :care:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on March 04, 2017, 12:35:11 PM
I rang the vet this morning for advice and they said to bring Tabby in as they had a slot at 1130. She did seems brighter this morning and not so wobbly and also ate some whiskas!  OUr lovely vet examined Tabby saw her walk around the surgery and said I can see what you mean, but she def was better than yesterday. She spent ages lifting up her back legs and said she thinks its some sort of nerve problem as when she held her leg back, she didnt move it back into position so she said she prob couldnt feel it. She was worried it may be a blood clot but said she had a pulse there, which was good. She is also very dehydrated and is now down from 2.02 to 1.8. She also said she still not sure if she has bladder neck tumour or not, but as she is weeing ok at the mo not too concerned. So Tabby had some more intravenous fluids, including some potassium to hydrate her and also a blood test to check her thyroid as well as everything else. Poor Tabby's neck is so skinny her veins are tiny and the clippers nicked her skin so she had to have the graze glued. She wasn't impressed and tried to bite the vet and hissed at her :evillaugh: She is  now home, eating some whiskas slowly, so just got to wait for blood results now next Tuesday. :scared:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on March 04, 2017, 13:05:26 PM
I would have tried to bite the vet too if she had nicked me with clippers. I am so glad that she is brighter today. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 04, 2017, 19:04:15 PM
 :hug:  Very glad you're home together
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on March 05, 2017, 17:42:51 PM
Tabby is not eating today, has been drinking quite a bit, but making gulping sounds as well. Really not herself. :(  I wonder if she has a sore throat? She seems to go up and down, a few months ago she was like this, and after a couple of days on a drip she picked up again.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Judecat (Paula) on March 05, 2017, 22:39:21 PM
 :care: :care: :care: to you both.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on March 06, 2017, 15:11:04 PM
Tabby is back at the vets on a drip now, she looked in her mouth and her tongue is very sore around the edges, could be due to kidney failure or licking something she shouldnt have, but I doubt it. Will wait for her blood results tomorrow and see how she is and decide what to do next. :(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 06, 2017, 15:15:43 PM
Thinking of you both, Heather.  Sending gentle hugs.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 06, 2017, 16:03:38 PM
SO SORRY TO READ ALL OF THIS AND SENDING GENTLE STROKES TO TABBY AND BIG  :hug: :hug: :hug:  TO YOU.
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: heather sullivan on March 06, 2017, 17:31:58 PM
Thank you :Luv:
Title: RIP my lovely Tabby
Post by: heather sullivan on March 07, 2017, 10:00:08 AM
had a phone call this morning from my vet, Tabby was comfortable on her drip last night but sadly this morning when they got there she had "gone to sleep".  Absolutely heartbroken but knew it was her time. Going to miss her little character so much but she is running up there now over the Rainbow with her 2 friends Bill and Bessie who she lived at the stables with when she was younger who sadly never made it to a great age like Tabby did :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Dawn F on March 07, 2017, 10:11:15 AM
heather I'm truly sorry to hear this, she had a wonderful life though  :hug:
Title: Re: Tabby not well
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 07, 2017, 11:16:45 AM
 SO VERY SORRY HEATHER BUT YOU DID EVERYTHING YOU COULD FOR HER, SHE HAD A GREAT LONG LIFE WITH YOU  :hug: :hug: :hug: