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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: McKitties (Katie) on November 30, 2015, 02:04:46 AM
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This new thread is a continuation of some posts from another less appropriate thread.
It is basically about my quest to find a new kitten(s)
REPLY TO LIZ
Well bless you and your special gang Liz. The Angus Rescue by the way is quite far away, not impossible but there are several centre closer. We are up on the Moray coast towards Inverness.
The frustrating thing is Moray Cat Protection have a litter of six gorgeous kittens right now (go onto Facebook the video is so cute) but unfortunately they have 30 people on their waiting list!
I think as it appears very difficult to find kittens up here, I'm going to go with the cautious approach, particularly when it comes to private litters. Unfortunately or fortunately, the Indie experience has made me more wary and certainly given me things to look for. I am going to ask if I can take the kitten to my vet to be checked at my expense. The vaccination and neutering later is our responsibility, I just need to make sure the whole litter is wormed, flead and the eyes are bright and clean. The house is in a very nice area so let's hope that's a good start, it's not always, but here's hoping.
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I too have a worry about private litters.
The question is why have they got it?
Are they breeding deliberately to sell? If so its not good and are backstreet breeders.
Who is the father of these kittens and how is the breeding happening, how old is the mother and how many litters has she had and how far apart.
Jens two cats came from a pedigree breeder and the boy, thinks its Billy but not sure is scared and having some probs adjusting to being free in a house as he was kept in the place where the queens were brought to him..............its all he knew for about 7 years.
There are much better way for breeders to act!
Basically from my point of view its an ethical point of view but unless things are very hunky dory at that house................you also need to see the mother and if posible the father and all the kittens...............and all kittens look clean and healthy, please dont even think about one.
I think that if every thing seems Ok then your idea of taking the kitten/kittens to a vet is a very good one and if the owner does not agree, get out of there quick. But make sure she understands that any problem the vet identifies will mean you will not take a kitten.
Why is this so flaming difficult with potholes to negotiate at every turn!!
On the whole its the wrong time of the year for kittens and as someone else said, in the lead up to Christmas rehoming usually stops................a cat/dog is not for Christmas but for life, and thats the reason why.
sorry if this sounds like a lecture but its not meant to be but I would hate for you to get hurt again because of this that illegal breeders do.
If they are not pedigrees the person cannot be a legal breeder, could be their cat got out and was caught by a tom and if so the mother would be very very young as by 6 months at the latest the cat should have been spayed.
Please take care and you are wise to be overcareful even.
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Joy of joy I have just woken up with the dog trying to be sick on the bed, he's got something stuck in his throat. I've given him a drink and a few biscuits to try and encourage it down. He's such a waste disposal unit.
A lot of the points that you have made Gill are very valid and I'll use these to ask more questions when I'm there.
I got the impression that this was simply a dozy :censored: who never got her cat spayed and now she has a litter. I have no reason to suspect she's an organised back st breeder. Our visit tomorrow should give us more answers.
Nothing is simple is it? Well not with me anyway! One good thing, the dog has stopped retching and has gone to sleep!
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This is gill in disguise lol
Yes sure you are right and hope everything goes OK.
Sorry didn't want to sound like I was lecturing you.
Please the dog is OK now........the joys of animals!
I currently have two cats in my bed and I don't think I ever get a chance to sleep! Both are washing themselves which I guess is better than what your dog was doing lol.
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Some great advice already, and you're heading in the right direction Katie, using your instincts to guide you. :hug:
I've bought from a back street breeder before, and most of them are horrendous, frankly. However, it wasn't the cat's fault, and he needed a home as badly as any others - if he hadn't been sold to us, he'd probably have ended up on the streets anyway, but I think you have to be prepared and know what you risk taking on in those circumstances.
As Gill said, none of us want you to go through another heartbreak like Indie's loss unless its because your cat has died of old age after living a long and happy life with you and your OH. :hug: :hug:
With the exception of Westgate Ark, where we've had Moray from and the girls, I haven't had very good experiences with shelters either when it comes to cats - I've had some cracking dogs from rescues, but with regard to cats, have found rescues very hit and miss. Like everything, there are good and less good rescues operating out there.
One point to bear in mind is that the current owner may not be willing to let a kitten be taken for a vet check unless you leave a deposit, or pay in full upfront. That may make it less easy for you to get your money back if there is anything wrong. That's less likely to be a problem with a rescue, but you never know. Ask what their policy is on vet-checks, and that way you not only show that you're responsible, but you can flush out any potential hostility prior to going to look at any litters :hug:
Nic had a near miss when she was looking for Chester and Beau - she'd been looking at getting a cat from a woman who was very off with her when she began asking relevant questions, and Nic realized - like you - that something didn't feel right about the woman's set up, so she looked elsewhere.
My advice would be, wherever you get your next cat or cats from, check them out first, then make your decision. :hug:
Pedigree breeders come in for a lot of stick, and like everything else, there are good uns and bad uns. I do think however - and same applies to dogs, horses, cattle etc that if all pedigree breeders are tarred with the same brush and hounded out of the picture, we'd lose most of the world's unique and magnificent breeds of dog or cat, and that would be tragic.
The beautiful Norwegian Forest Cat almost died out before careful breeding plans were revived. On the flip side, the modern Siamese is almost unrecognisable from the Siamese of 40 or 50 years ago.
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I agree with being very cautious about private sellers, whether backstreet breeder or someone who didn't bother to get their cat spayed. Not only is there a greater risk of health issues (if the cat was out roaming and mated with any random tom that means a much increased risk of disease transmission e.g FIV) but these people will continue to do what they do so long as they can find buyers. Very difficult to turn your back on a kitten needing a home though, I know. Kittens may be in short supply this time of year and as you've found out there is a long waiting list as everyone wants a small kitten. This sometimes means that older kittens are overlooked (many people will consider 4 months too old - they want a tiny kitten) so it's worth looking for kittens age between 5 and 12 months. Still babies but probably less demand for them.
Good luck with your search. It's very exciting! ;D
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Thanks for sound advice as usual ladies, I'll go with my level head on and my gut instinct.
Katie x
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Just for the record Katie, if I ended up going to a BSB and found a sick kitten, I'd have my cheque book out and the kitten in my basket before you could say Unzipped Banana ;)
That's why I always go to rescues but of course we have a good number of rescues in Birmingham.
Best of luck :hug: :hug:
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Gill is right, it is Billy we have such problems with. Had I done more research, had I thought things through I probably wouldn't have Billy and Zarny, but I went with my heart. He has very bad anxiety and is struggling to adapt to a home, we have good days and bad. We have a long term plan with the vets, so whilst I can say 'do what I say, not what I do', likewise I go with my heart, and certainly with Billy, who else would have the patience? (Excepting purrs peeps)
Good luck with the search, and have faith that Indie will send the patter of paws your way. :)
Edited to add, I did have the most amazing Billy cuddle his morning, complete with purring and kneading, for 5 whole minutes! :Luv2:
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Is it today at 2pm you're going Katie? Are they ready to be homed just now? Are you thinking of one kitten or two? Can you tell I'm a bit excited? :rofl:
As Sue says, my frantic searching led me to a woman who was listed on Catchat as a rescue. She was 15 minutes from where I live with a litter of kittens.
But when I contacted her, she didn't ask me any of the questions I've come to expect from a decent rescue and was happy for me just to come and pick 2 kittens. That in itself made me a bit wary.
She then texted me to say the whole litter had bad diarrhoea and that she was feeding them chicken to try and settle it.
I asked a few questions and she couldn't even tell what sex they were. She said they'd been wormed but then admitted they hadn't seen a vet.
When I asked more questions, she got a bit nippy with me.
My gut just told me she was a bit dodgy and at that point I found a local branch of CAT with kittens and got my boys.
My advice is go with your gut. As you say, if the kittens look healthy and bright and if they've had worm and flea treatment, I'd be happy.
You want them to have the best treatment possible before you get them, but then look at my experience with my wee mite Chester, his fosterer was amazing and very eperienced. he'd seen the vet a few times for checks and had everything he should've. And yet he still got poorly.
But the bottom line is, I wouldn't change it for the world becasue he's so precious to me and I'd do whatever it takes to get him healthy.
However, after what you've just been through, the last thing you need is a poorly kitten. You'll know though, your instinct will tell you if it's right for you. :hug:
Fingers crossed you visit and find a bunch of healthy, fluffy little monsters :wow:
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Lots of good advice on here but the trouble with going to see kittens is that you will fall in love them whatever their circumstances so I’m glad your OH is going with you.
There are all sorts of specific things you could look for and you could drive yourself mad with them but as many have already said, trusting your gut instinct is very good starting point.
Asking how mum got pregnant is a very naiive question but put the right way (you don’t want the lady to think you’re an idiot who knows nothing and is therefore an unsuitable kitten meowmy and nor do you want to get her back up by appearing judgemental) it’s one worth asking. What you are on the lookout for is whether there is a strong possibily that dad cat may be a close relative of mum which increases the chances of inherited diseases. It has to be said that kittens from a private breeder (accidental or otherwise) are no more and no less likely to have problems with their lineage than those from a rescue, as generaly nothing is known about the history of mum cat (or a litter of abandoned kittens) when they arrive at the rescue. However, an experienced rescuer might be quicker to spot early signs of trouble and know how to deal with it.
I don’t know how old the kittens are but if they have not yet been weaned I would be very wary if you encountered the same situation you did with Indie where mum is not feeding them properly. This invariably means that either mum knows there is something wrong with her kitten and has rejected it or she herself is having health issues. Generally if it’s only one kitten she isn’t feeding then the problem is with the kitten, although you do need to be able to distinguish between actual rejection by the mum and just the fact that one particular kitten repeatedly gets pushed aside by its stronger, greedier siblings. In the latter case judicious placing of the kitten on one of the mum’s teats is generally all that’s needed. If it’s all of them then mum (and kittens) need vet checking. It may just be a case that mum doesn’t have enough milk for a big litter, in which case the kittens may need topping up with a proper formula in the right amount. On the other hand mum may have a more serious condition that requires medical treatment and separation from her kittens in which case they will need bottle feeding. I suppose what I’m saying here is that the human needs to observe at least some of the feeding sessions and not just trust that mum is getting on with it.
The issue of worming is fraught with problems. As Liz has said, kittens ought to be wormed at 4,6 and 8 weeks but it must be the right wormer and I think I’m right in saying that only Panacur, a prescription-only 3 day treatment, is suitable for kittens under 8 weeks. There are other products available once they reach 8 weeks but again they ned a vet’s prescrition. Personally I would rather my kitten hadn’t been wormed at all than had been wormed incorrectly. That said, a kitten with a heavy load of worms often fails to thrive and to the inexperienced eye it can be difficult to tell a wormy belly from a belly that is full of food.
Good luck. ;D
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Oh my goodness, just look at the time. You're probably already on your way there Katie and will have missed my post. No problem though, if your gut hasn't already warned you off then I'm sure you'll be going again. ;D
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Thats really interesting about Cat Chat Nicola and know this is totally irrelevant to this thread but I always try and warn people about the rescues on there.
I used to volunteer and help with the rescue side electronically but kept finding rescues that were so bad in what they were doing. No checks are made.................would be impossible...........and my concience would not let me do it any more.
Good luck Katie and hope that Indie has guided you to the right place and cats :hug:
Yes as Nicola.................is it one or two??????????????? or are you just waiting to see :shify: :shify:
''here comes Katie with 6 kittens'' :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
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Well? Any news Katie? ;D
Dying to know how you got on! x
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Meeeeeeeeeeeeeee too.
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Snap! Me three! :)
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An me!!!!
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... and me.
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And me :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
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The suspense is killing me!
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Me too Gill!
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Oh boy folks, what a day! Another epic Katie drama. You'd better sit down!
I was ready to leave to go see the kitties and was just putting my shoes on and I get a message from litter owner to say really sorry but all 4 cats are reserved. She was very apologetic and explained that she was taking 'the runt', her son is taking one and a couple came this morning and put money down to reserve the last two. Gutted.
So moped about a bit, well actually went in the huff. :-[ Did some paperwork and then another message from her came through. "Think the kittens will be for rehoming again as I've had a complaint about the couple who reserved them. Will keep you updated"
So I was totally confused and didn't know whether we were going to see them next day or not! Alarm bells starting.
The next message tells me that the couple who reserved the last two kittens were baiters and the police and the SSPCA were involved. So we arrange to see the litter tomorrow but with no guarantees that we would reserve one. Then she tells us she has another pregnant cat due this week! Alarm bells.
Was feeling in a right quandary then and was discussing it with OH when a message comes through on my phone from an old school friend saying how sorry she was about us losing Indie. She also said that maybe it was too early but her friend had three tortie kittens that were three weeks old! I phoned straight away thinking not a hope, but the girl said that they were waiting to see who had the best circumstances and then they would decide. Unbeknown to us my school friend had already described where we lived and the girl said we could have one!!! ;D ;D ;D
She mentioned that they were keeping one themselves, leaving one girl. So I asked if we could have her as well. But it turns out she had promised a kitten to a girl when they were born but has since found out she stays near a busy road so she now doesn't know what to do. So she's thinking about it over night and will let me know. So keep your fingers crossed!
I'm so excited. One of the kittens is scarily like Indie and one is just dark and splodgy and one has gorgeous markings above her eyes. They have already mentioned worming and it just feels different, they obviously are interested in their welfare. They have sent me photos and a video.
Wow, what a day eh?
We really have decided to get two kittens, I think a couple of you have said that to me along the way. Reading about Chester and Beau playing and we saw when Indie was here a playmate would have been better.
A question. If we just get one torte girl, is it possible to introduce a kitten from a different litter of a similar age and if so should you get the same sex. How early can cats get pregnant?
Nothing is simple is it?! :innocent:
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what a roller coaster! Sounds exciting and keeping everything crossed it works out. 2 torties? That sounds like a sure recipe for trouble, lol!
Yes it should be ok to introduce a 2nd kitten from a different litter. You would have to be a little careful with intros at first but kittens usually accept other kittens fairly readily. As to how soon they can get pregnant - as early as 4 months!
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As early as 4 months spaying is usually at 2kgs most vets will do this all my current girls including my 2 nortie tortie kittens Nutmeg and Izzy-bidet and Pepsi were done at 2kgs and ID chipped at the same time and were bounding around with no issues
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Two females would be easiest, but if you get one, and she's spayed before a male is introduced, that would be safe.
Males do tend to spray when they mature, until they're neutered, so that might be a consideration too!
Fingers crossed you have good news soon.
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My goodness, thanks the alarm bell sounded.
I agree with what the others have said but if you could get two girls from the same litter I think that would the best option ;D
Also no more searching while one grew older .
however if you can only get one then no choice.
Hope that you get good news and can sort out the details about vets and stuff.
It maybe different in Scotland but here I dont know any vets who will neuter before 4 months.
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...............if you get one, and she's spayed before a male is introduced, that would be safe.
or alternatively get the male neutered first then he isn't interested. :evillaugh: Seriously, As Liz has said, time of spay/neuter depends on maturity of ktten so in terms of when to get them 'done' the answer is as soon as the vet thinks they're ready for it.
I wouldn't say that 2 females was necessarily any easier than a male and a female ( or indeed 2 males but that clearly isn't going to happen if you have already reserved a tortie ;D ). It all depends on the personality of the cats, and while males can be more boisterous, females can be more devious, so they can usually hold their own. I would hesitate to put a very boisterous, confident cat from one litter with a quiet, fairy timid one from another litter, but apart from glaring differences like that I wouldn't worry too much. As Susanne has said, it's the introductions that matter, but most kittens will accept a newcomer pretty quickly. Good luck. ;D
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Thanks so much for advice once again guys, feeling a big of a novice here. It is being digested so it's all good
Here's a wee peak at the babies :-
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Yes i am still up! Been deleting security and reinstalling taken nearlt 2 hrs grrrrrrrrr
Those kittens are gorgeous especially love the one in the pic with purple nails ;D
I am so partial to torties and of course have one myself.
So what is the next stage?
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:Luv2: Will keep paws crossed, glad the alarm bells sounded, but hoping for a good outcome for 2 bundles!
I think everything has been covered already, some vets early neuter now, but it depends on the weight and health of the individual furball. :naughty:
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Glad you weren't going to be messed about this time and your instincts kicked in, Katie. Cant tell you how much I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you'll get to take home two of these little ladies - they absolutely gorgeous!!
As has been mentioned already, as long as the introductions are managed well, even if you only get one from this litter and adopt another later, they should adjust well. And it doesn't seem to matter about the choice of sex of the kitten, as long as you get the neutering done, or choose your timings with care, and we'll keep you right on that score. ;) I do agree with Carol that it's probably more important to try and match temperament for temperament with cats, but its not always easy to tell what you're getting with kittens, as their personalities are in the process of forming and changing, unlike that of an adult cat where there may be more subtle clues to their natures, even in the artificial surroundings of a rescue or shelter.
Our Vet said he will do the girls when they're 5 - 6 months, depending on what works for us (I have holidays due in February) and we'll get them microchipped at the same time. I think there may be some vets who will neuter females at 4 months, but I don't think our vet is quite so progressive. :shify:
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I hope you will be able to take the two lovlies Katie :hug:
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They can be spayed as young as 12 weeks (or even a bit younger) provided they weigh enough. Not all vets have moved with the times though and many stick to the 6 months thing. Many breeders and rescues have their kittens done before rehoming.
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Oh Katie, how exciting!!
Chester & Beau are from 2 different litters but as far as I'm concerned - and I'm sure they agree - they're brothers ;D
I don't think it'll be an issue with kittens.
And you know I'm going to recommend getting 2, I'm so glad I did!
It means I feel much better when I have to leave them and watching them playing & sleeping together is just wonderful.
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Nic's right - having two is double the trouble twice as much fun. ;) :evillaugh:
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Oh, and one other thing.
My boys two personalities couldn't be more different.
Beau is very quiet, gentle & much more timid.
Chester is brave as a lion & very bolshy.
I actually think it helped bring Beau out of his shell quicker & I swear Chester takes care of him like a big brother.
I hope you can get 2 from this litter though. That would just be perfect!
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wow what a roller coaster!! everything crossed, as with all torties they are of course adorable - baiters, doesn't that make you want to
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Yes, good point Nic - temperament matching doesn't necessarily mean the same - our Ross was a very Alpha oriented cat, boisterous and outgoing. Tinks on the other hand was a quiet Gamma style cat, introverted and complicated, but they got along like a house on fire - bestest mates until their untimely separation.
Moray was patient and friendly, and responded to Tinks need for quiet respect.
F red is a loner since his accident, but is very friendly though nervous and easily intimidated. T ed is a little bovva boy with much cattitude and a tendency to muscle in on everything. He's definitely a User. ;) B uttons is shy and quiet, and very laid back. They all get on tolerably well together.
Of the girls, Barley is the bold one - the one who is lightning quick and always paves the way. Malt is more reticent, smaller and less speedy, yet she always "mothers" Barley and makes sure she's good and clean like wot their Mamma showed them. She can also shred your fingertips in an instant, so maybe not that slow. ;)
Yes Dawn, it does - sadly we hear a lot about them round our way too.
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I've never known two very young kittens not to get on pretty quickly no matter the sex or whether related. Things get more complicated the older they get of course.
Sounds like you have steered clear of trouble and do hope you manage to home both. Two is so very very much better than one :) :)
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Thanks everyone, that's reassuring. So just waiting to hear about other tortie and if that falls through, we'll look for a brother or sister. Sooooo excited but another long waiting game, I don't think my nerves can stand it!, :scared:
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What lovely babies! I am so hoping you can have two of this absolutely stunning girls! But if not then one and another kitten should not be a problem.
Beautiful kits there ;D
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If its another waiting game and you know the kittens are being well cared for and fed as they should etc etc then it will be so much better than last time and we can all count down the sleeps with happiness for you. ;D ;D
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Awwww, they are utterly adorabubble! But then, all kittens are so it doesn't really matter from that point of view.
You were very wise to steer clear of the first woman - anyone who attracts a 'bait' buyer must be under suspicion and, although innocent until proven guilty etc, best avoided.
I do think getting 2 kittens is a great idea. Chivvy and Puny came to us as littermates - mind you, they never actually got on! Perhaps we should have paid more attention to the inter-litter relationships than we did. That's all water under the bridge now and it didn't really matter anyhoo.
The waiting is agony, I know, but the time will son go and your forever kitty will be here before you know it ;D
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I know nothing about kittens except they are cute, soft and furry :rofl: :rofl: You'll get all the advice you need from others on here Katie.
They are beautiful and I can'twait to here the next instalment - maybe you should write a book, What Katie Did Next :evillaugh: :evillaugh: I'm sure it would be better than the one that was out in the 70s ;)
Mary
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Well today is a day of indecision. Help please!
There are two litters, the lady from the first litter of tabbys contacts me to say there is one tabby left and asks who my vet is as she will get them checked and will be getting the wormer there anyway. (Good sign)
The other litter of three torties, the people very concerned where there kittens are going and mentioned worming too (good sign)and we are definitely getting one of those but they were considerating letting us have another but wouldn't make a decision and haven't got back to us.
Kitten going like hot cakes, we would definitely like two, what would you do??
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He/she (we're going on Saturday to see) is too cute! Mind you, what kitten isn't?
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So long as both have been cared for, I wouldn't worry. All cats will be a little spooked by relocating to a new home. Getting them as kittens means they aren't set in their ways. If there is any squabbling to begin with, they'll be about the same size, and won't hurt each other badly, and they'll soon get used to each other. It makes little difference if they are litter mates. You can't even tell how they'll get on together if they've come from a larger litter. Just ask Nicola how Beau has changed!
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Thanks Dave, so you'd go for one of each. They're both ready 5 days apart.
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If that's the most likely outcome, yes, rather than risk disappointment!
You don't even need to get them at the same time, so long as they're roughly the same size/age, though the closer together their arrivals are the better.
Cats like to know where they stand, and they don't like too much change at once, but they're more adaptable, and recover their wits sooner, the younger they are.
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It's you that has the silver tabby that I admire isn't it? What a gorgeous cat.
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Lily, the silver tabby/dilute tortie something or other?
She turned up a year ago, and decided she was in charge. 9 year old Bramble, who is definitely a tabby, had other ideas! They often play together now, chasing each other around the house.
Two kittens close in age will be easier.
I had to give up all my cats when my life fell apart, but I got two back, including Bramble. A month or so earlier, I'd already got two cats, including a kitten, Pimpernel. Despite the gap in age, and in introduction, they got on quite well:
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Until 2008 I had only had girl cats, singly. Except when I was growing up, then the most we had at once was 1 adult female, 8 kittens, 2 adult rabbits, 17 baby rabbits, a couple of hamsters, 4 white rats, half a dozen mice, two frogs, a hedgie and a crow. Don't ask :Crazy:
Then in 2008, Holly died aged 21 and a half, a few months later we got Lulu from the rescue, she was 9 years old. A few weeks after that we got Tigger, he was 4, my first boy cat. The difference in the two was like chalk and cheese. Lulu liked nothing better than to sit next to (not on) me being brushed or stroked, she played very rarely. Tigger charged round the house, loved playing in bags and boxes, always head butting me, purring and huffing. Lulu was tiny, about 6lbs, Tigger was about 11lbs.
I lost them in April 2014, Tigger first, Lulu 3 weeks later.
That's when the Hoolies came into my life, with a bang ;D Anyhoo they grew and grew and grew until they reached the size they are now, 13lbs 3oz, 6kg each. That's the first thing, male cats are much bigger than the girls. They are more boisterous and more playful, in my experience.
They can also spray, mark their territory, when they are kittens and tomcat pee stinks and is the very devil to get rid of. Zoonie was a difficult kitten, he used to pee and spray on the carpet in the hall all the time, it took months for him to get used to the litter tray. Astrophe on the other hand went straight in the tray the day I got him.
If you want dainty, go for girls, if you want Hoolicats get boys :rofl: and if you go for two, get them together so you don't have any problems introducing them.
Having said all that, I wouldn't swap these two for anything :Crazy:
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It's funny all the different characters. Like little people really.
So you an insomniac like me? Saying that I was nodding off a minute ago.
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It's funny all the different characters. Like little people really.
So you an insomniac like me? Saying that I was nodding off a minute ago.
Yep, that's me, insomniac. ;D Just a bad time of year for me at the moment, I have been struggling, trying to fight off the depression, I think I'm winning, tablets are useless, cats are the best remedy ;D
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Tell me about it, I'm rattling with tablets and I still get depressed. On the up though, feeling better last two days so it's maybe lifting.
Plus I've got a focus with my kitten search, I can't get over how quickly kittens get reserved here. New experience for me. Ideally I'd like two females and the same litter but I think I'm not so hung up on the same litter thing now after speaking to Dave. As long as they're roughly the same age and will arrive at the same time they should settle down. Well that's the theory!
Well I suppose I should try and get some sleep, I took a sleeping tablet 4 hours ago and I'm still wide awake again. Nice talking to you Andrew, love to the hoolies!
Night Dave!
Katie
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Katie, I'd say go with it. If the tortie litter's carer cant confirm one or two, then take the tabby and take the tortie girl. I know how quickly kittens go in our neck of the woods too, and if there's only 5 days between the dates each will be ready, then there's little ground to lose.
I was shaking with laughter when I read your post Andrew. At that point, I had just had two gurlcats hurl themselves past my ear'ole at around 70 mph, having leapt over the back of the little sofa, sending OH's glass of water flying, and the paper he was flicking through to the floor. Dainty is certainly not the word that sprang to mind. :evillaugh:
I've had gurlcats and boy cats, and have always found the boys to be the least trouble and the most loving, and I'm still not minded to change my opinion! :rofl: :rofl:
Dave, I'm so pleased you were able to get cats back into your life, even if their number was rather more than you'd counted on. :hug:
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Here's what I think, and you probably know what I'm going to say...get them both ;D
You've seen how much my 2 adore each other despite being no relation.
By the way, like Sue, I think boys are much more loving. Every Tom I've had has been a cuddly lap cat. I've found girl cats to be a bit more aloof. I've never had an issue with spraying either (let's hope that continues!)
I'd also ask if the one who's ready earlier could be kept for 5 extra days so they both come home at the same time.
Chester was ready a week before Beau but I asked the fosterer if I could wait & bring them home together. I didnt want to spend that time settling him only to introduce a new arrival.
So exciting! I feel a kitten countdown coming!!!!
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go for it Katie, at that young age they should bond quickly - girls are naughtier for sure but we still have a couple of cuddlebums in our gang
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Right, that's that sorted, female tortie and we'll find out what the tabby is on Saturday.
Oh my word, names now. I'll have to see them first!! I said Shiraz and Chablis but OH not havin it. Lol!
We tend to like odd names to be either Scottish or food or old fashioned, to do with art.
Now that will be today's quest!
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Neaps and tatties :rofl:
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LOL :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Love the idea of scottish names!
Iona? Isla? Sorcha? Ailsa?
Nessie! :rofl:
Scotch and Rye :rofl:
Francie and Josie :rofl: :rofl:
I'm desperate to know if you have a tabby boy or a tabby girl. I'm hoping for a boy ;)
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When I got Pimpernel, he was very good at hiding, despite his light colour. I got another, slightly older cat at the same time:
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I thought she looked like one of those Egyptian statuettes, so I thought an Egytian cat goddess’s name would fit. The most obvious one was Bastet, but then I thought of what the neighbours might think if I was calling her in, and decided on Neit!
I don't worry too much about names any more. All my cats have ended up being called "Oi!" They always seem to know which one I mean.
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:evillaugh: :evillaugh: Dave, thanks for that. Neit was a bonny 'un and no mistake. very handsome girl.
Katie, I do of course highly approve of Scottish names, as you'll appreciate, what with our MacBeenz MacSquee, Ross (as in Ross & Cromarty) and now of course Moray, Malt and Barley. Tinks was named before he came to us, and he suited it, so stayed as Tinks.
How about Cluny, Skerry or Keltie, Bridie, or Florrie or Ailish?
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You might find some ideas here:
http://www.funcatnames.com/scottish-cat-names.html
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My OH would never permit it, but I'd love to have a Haggis and Spurtle. :evillaugh:
I do like Breac (Breck). :)
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Isla is my very cute great niece so am rather biased, I love it! ours always have human names apart from star which was her rescue name (she had been through at lot an was popular with the staff) we only didn't change it because I wanted daisy and oh wanted Helga!!
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Until 2008 I had only had girl cats, singly. Except when I was growing up, then the most we had at once was 1 adult female, 8 kittens, 2 adult rabbits, 17 baby rabbits, a couple of hamsters, 4 white rats, half a dozen mice, two frogs, a hedgie and a crow. Don't ask :Crazy:
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..................... and a partridge in a Pear Tree :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Names - Heather and Porridge :rofl: :rofl:
Mary
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What about Och and Hi :rofl:
Mary
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Oaty
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I love those names, Mary, Heather and Porridge.
Katie,
Perhaps you should have three kittens if the other tortie does become available!
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Freya ;D
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I love those names, Mary, Heather and Porridge.
Katie,
Perhaps you should have three kittens if the other tortie does become available!
:naughty: :naughty: The thought had crossed my mind too...... :evillaugh:
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The one night I go to bed earlier and nothing was happening in Purrs................this thread kicks off 30 mins later LOL, Was still awake at 0400 but only up an hour ago...............takes me a while to have meds eat and wake up!
Sooooooooooooooo two kittens yesssssssssssssssss and agree with what everyone has said ;D ;D
So one tabby and one tortie girl................sounds graet and also feel a countdown starting,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,how long between now and Christmas and them being ready, have lost how old they are :Crazy:
Scottish names, think I am a total failure there but hit this thread at Tattie and Neeps :rofl: :rofl: Love those as names ;D ;D
Well its got me off to a laughing start to my day, thank you everyone.
Of course would have to be Tattie the tortie and Neeps the tabby :innocent:
I have got one tortie gurl and she is no trouble at all, just a semi feral but thats not her fault. As for boi cats...............holds head in hands :rofl: :rofl: Lupin the climbing, norty little horror but the youngest cat I have ever had. Big soft scaredy cat Misa who is so gentle but has certainly learned some cattitude from Lupin!
Then my two birman brothers from same litter who came to me at 13yrs and so different, one with 3 legs and that may be the reason cos he wasnt comfortable on laps and his jumping a bit restricted but think until he lost his leg was very much like Napoleon. Napoleon was heavier and such a cuddlebum, absoltely adorable, neither was any problem at all.
Misa and Sasa didnt love them but tollerated them and as time went by the 3 boys sorted themselves out, Misa and Naoleon would race for the same place on the bed at the right of my head, Napoleon always won! So Misa then went lower down. Ducha (Dooka for the uninitiated lol) went straight to the left and on top of my head.............sigh.
Not sure how I ever slept!
Sasa just kept to herself and as far away as possible :(
However think as baby kittens no problem at all and their purrrrrsonalities will show themselves as they grow up............probably total hoolies for ages :rofl: :rofl:
3 kittens :rofl: :rofl: Did think about about 6 :rofl: :rofl:
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Wha????? How did I miss this???
Where did this come from???? I've only been away a couple of days...due to studying and recovering lol.
One word....BRILLIANT!
Katie - first off, well done for jumping back on the cat-wagon so quickly. I'm sure Indie must have had some imput in that lol.
Secondly, after reading through the multiple posts that I have missed, I agree about the tabby and tortoishell and I am glad that you've seen them both as well.
Thirdly, names....OK....sounds like I need to add some Scottish names to my names list on here lol. I love Neeps and Tattie though :)
Looking forward to reading what happens.
Really proud of you Katie for staying a) with us and b) on the "mad-cat-wagon" lol.
Julz xx
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Just remembered that you mentioned artie names too :shify: :shify:
Toolose and LeTrek :rofl:
Matice and Pablo
Op and Art
Dali and Tangie
and back to scottish
Loki and Nessie
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What about Och and Hi :rofl:
Mary
I think you mean Och and Aye Mary :evillaugh: But then you'd need a third to be "thenoo"
How about Hookter and Chookter Katie? :rofl:
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I am absolutely bent double laughing at your name suggestions.. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Loved spurtle Sue , and Hoochter and Choocter Nic! :rofl:
Mattice and Pablo Gill
Heather and Porridge have quite a ring to them Mary.
I will add them to my suggestion book and show them to the OH
We also have a liking for France so there's a whole realm of possibilities there.
I think I like old Scottish names like Angus and Maggie or food and drink things like Saffron or or Manuka.....
Oh there's one that stood out a bit, Manuka. Oh and I like Dram.
You lot have got me obsessed and I wasn't even thinking that much about it. I've looked back and it was those hoolies who stared it off! :innocent:
Now off to find a notebook. I wish the tabby was a boy! It would make it easier to name them.!!
Katie hope you dont mind but came in to try and see why the smilies didnt work, have even reput them in and still dont work! Just dont know why they wont ...................... :Crazy: see if mine works!
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my friends cat is jean Jacques!
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Jean and Jacque
Coque o vin - maybe not, can imagine me shouting that on the headland at the top of my voice, Jeanie down the hill would have heart failure!
I personally like Bordeaux and Claret. :naughty:
Mmmmmmmmmm........off to think of more later x
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I know Stella and Guinness (St Bernard and a Newfie), and we had Bubble and Squeak.
How about these:
Bruce/Wallace and Mary
Leigh and Fifth
Arty and Doyle (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle)
Sherlock and Mrs Hudson
As far as my own cats were concerned they refused to come to any name they didn't like so chose their own names. My last cat refused to come to Chleo but loved Chloe, so that stuck. :rofl:
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Am lovin' some of these names ;D
My GP boss had 2 cats - Bella and Donna. Oh course, there is always Sam n Ella or, continuing with the medical theme, Melena and Candida :evillaugh:
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I think we might pass, on the meleana and candida suggestion, but it did make me laugh out loud :rofl:
It's like someone calling out a school roll of suggestions here...and the funny thing is, we haven't even see the kittens yet!!
Please feel free to make suggestions to add to our book!,,,,,
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What about Och and Hi :rofl:
Mary
I think you mean Och and Aye Mary :evillaugh:
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That's the Yorkshire way of spelling it :evillaugh:
Many moons ago afriend had 4 Persians called Nuts, Remus, Munster and Sputnik :rofl:
So now we have to start thinking of names to do with France?
Frenchy and Onion :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Paris and Beret? Champagne (champers/shampoo) and Croissant? Mona and Lisa? Garlic and Snails? OMG, I must stop now :evillaugh: :naughty:
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On a French theme, how about Mouette (seagull)?
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There's always the Shakespeare link with Romeo and Juliet but they did come to a nasty end. The same could be said for Odette, Violette, Peter and Noor (all members of the SOE during WW2). Then there is the sci fi link such as Leia, Luke, Han, Picard, Janeway, and Q.
One thing to consider if they are going to go outside is calling the name! Even Cfor can sound horrendous and rather embarassing.
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Yes, we have done a bit of quietly calling out just to see it doesn't sound too ridiculous. :rofl:
Not sure about shouting seagull in the garden though Sue , all our French friends would have a fit of laughter.
How about 'ennui' which means trouble or nuisance!! or Nounours (teddy)?
All added to the list and then we'll decide. There's about 6 I really like but the OH doesn't., this could be interesting!!
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Odette is a nice name, I had a girlfriend called Odette, sigh! Not a cat name though. ;)
I was looking at Scottish girls names and I think I said Freya. Norse Goddess of love, apparently she was a bit of a party girl :naughty:
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I think that's katie isn't it?! :rofl:
Andrew, do you ever sleep?! :doh:
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Andrew, do you ever sleep?! :doh:
Not a lot :doh:
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Also think about how it sounds called out at the vets! And does it go with your surname?
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And does it go with your surname?
I hadn't thought of that. Is this a new thing, and widespread, where the vet adds your surname to the pet's name? I only became aware of it when I took Lily to be spayed last year.
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Happened in London over 15 years ago lol
Not sure my vet does it for me cos he knows me so well :shify: :shify:
Forgive my spelling but more names maybe :evillaugh:
Madam/Monsuir
LeChat/Kocka Kocka is czech for cat pronounced Koch-ka and c has a little v over top, ch as in chair
Gogan/Picasso
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Never thought of the vet thing Susanne, they do that here too?
Liking Madam and Monsieur, that made me laugh, imagine shouting that in a wee garden of a Scottish fishing village. The locals will be thinking the only gays in the village have gone completely mad! :rofl:
Are you Czech Gill?!
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My vet called Astrophe, Apostrophe the first time he went :rofl:
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No Katie but have had an affinity with the country since the 60s and Prague is my favourite city in Europe. ;D ;D Of course now split into two countrys :(
Could not remember how to spell Monsieur and think that was the only version I didnt try :-[
Excentric not mad :rofl: :rofl:
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If you went along with the Beckham's, the cats could be called Liverpool or Birmingham - can you imagine the paw on their faces with shock of those names. :rofl:
With my last pets I went through the name dictionary and found anything that had a dog meaning - I was adopting two dogs.
Here's some more to think of:
Galaxy, Cadbury, Rowntrees
Dr who, Clara, Donna, Rose, Captain Jack
Star Trek
McCoy, Kirk, Katherine, James
Some of my favourites:
Victoria, Elizabeth, Morgan, Jasper, Harvey, Henry (as in King Henry 8th), Max, Hannah, and Heather.
I think as I never had any kids I'll use the names for pets instead. :)
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Demented with tooth ache, feel like someone has hit me with a shovel on the side of my cheek.
If I drink anything cool it's like torture. Off to bed to try and sleep cos I'm going to the dentist at 8.20am. :'(
Just as an aside,I tried to message the woman who has the tortie kitties cos she hasn't got back to tell us if we can have two or not. Well she has blocked us and we tried her daughter and she has blocked us too. We are now completely baffled.
Up one day down the next. It's beginning to do my head in.
I think I'll get two giraffes instead.
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That is just crazy! This rate 2 giraffes would be easier. :Crazy:
Hope you feel better soon :hug:
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Likewise, and I hope you get better cat related news soon too. Are you still in touch with the other owner?
If both fall through, don't despair, but you might have to wait until after Christmas. There may be more kittens available in the New Year. Sadly, there are still people who think pets make good Christmas presents, so you may have better luck once the demand dies down.
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That's completely bizarre! Why on earth would she do that?! >:(
I feel for you Katie, I know how much you want to find your kittens. Are you seeing the tabby at the weekend?
Hope the dentist wasn't too awful and has sorted out that toothache
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I hope your tooth got sorted quickly, it always happens at Christmas with me as well.
For the kitties, I think your soul cat/s is/are looking for you, and it will come when the time is right. As the others have said it's probably the pre Christmas rush, but do persevere.
Here's my story but about dogs: My Dad wanted a Labrador, I wanted a dark Westie/ Cairn, well we had to wait 2 years until Dads operation wounds healed (he was a diabetic so it took for ever). Then when we were given the all clear, I went onto a rescue site and found my black Westie and phoned up about him, only to find out he was being rehomed with a lurcher (labrador/whippet cross) Now hows that for coincidences - I think not. Of course we adopted them both.
It just shows you how things come around. I'm sure your kitties are out there, you just have to find each other when the times is right.
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Katie you poor thing! All this and toothache as well :hug:
How very strange about the people blocking you :( I do agree that the perfect cat is out there somewhere but it might be that the time is not yet quite right. I know it is hard when you want this sooooo much though.
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WARNING : GRUMPY MOOD IN PROGRESS! >:( >:( >:(
Sore teeth, couldn't sleep! :-[
Up at 7 to go to dentist...........I don't do mornings! :-[
Sore teeth cos been at dentist! :-[
Found out just by chance why litter owners blocked me on Facebook after reserving a tortie. The 17 year old daughter was keeping a kitten, she promised one to her friend, unbeknown to her mother. Her mother had reserved one to her own friend, leaving no kittens. However, mum cancelled her friend so that we could have two because her friend was going to keep them indoors and she wanted them to be out door cats. But then ofcourse she couldn't give us two because her daughter was already giving one to her friend. So apparently the mother and daughter have now fallen out. So I have decided not to touch them with a barge poll and move swiftly on to my next quest. I'm seriously thinking of buying two giraffes.
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What a stoopid pair of :censored:
This is so sad cant they resolve there probs and let you have two?
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I wonder if the Giraffes head would go through a cat flap!
I'm glad your tooth is a little bit better, at least you got it done before the weekend.
Good luck with your search for kitties. You're making me very cat broody, I'm going to have to get my asthma sorted out!
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Odette is a nice name, I had a girlfriend called Odette, sigh! Not a cat name though. ;)
I was looking at Scottish girls names and I think I said Freya. Norse Goddess of love, apparently she was a bit of a party girl :naughty:
Not Odette the glassware lady?
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D S U R P R I S E ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Sorry, not great photos (don't say a word Andrew, have you tried taking a photo of two tornados with an iPad?!)
No kitties in any of the rescues, so got these two privately from a lovely cat mad family.
No names as yet. Both eat like lions, run about like tornados, can use their litter tray and purr so loud!
A few things..........when do they sleep?!
When do they like the dogs?! That was a serious display of hissing and back arching!
Oh and does anyone want a telly because we're not going to need ours!
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:censored: brilliant news!
Don't worry about the hissing. Everything is new to them, they'll settle in. So long as the dogs don't retaliate, the kittens will accept them as part of their domain! It might be a good idea to keep them separate from the dogs while you're not there, simply because, when they do get used to the dogs, the inevitable rough and tumble will be unbalanced in favour of the dogs, and the kittens may get hurt accidentally, but the more contact they have, the sooner the hissing will stop.
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They are fabulash ;D ;D ;D
Oh my you are gonna have a great christmas with no sleep and all play ;D ;D
How old are they? They look nice and healthy. Male or female?
They will get used to the dogs quite quickly I think but like Dave says keep them apart when you are not there until all have settled.
Soooooooooooooo pleased for you ;D ;D
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Before Lily came to me, she lived with at least one, quite large, dog. Right from the start she terrorised the local dogs, so I doubt they'll have any problems. You might end up separating them for the dogs' safety!
Names will suggest themselves when you get to know them better, but you might like to look up the names of hurricanes!
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Yay!!!!! Wonderful!!
They are stunners! You must be thrilled ;D I'm so pleased and excited for you. Can't wait to hear all about their antics
Boys or girls??
Are they the ones I PM'd you about?
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
We need to know more. Age, gender, your address so we can arrange to have them cat-napped :sneakin:
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:wow: :wow: what lovely looking frightful terrors! :Luv: good luck finding the snooze button, if you do, let me know it's location? Zarny tears around like a loon still :evillaugh:
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Kittens
Gorgeous kittens.
What sex are they, how old are they? Info needed
It is difficult trying to take a pic of tornados with an ipad, that's what cameras are for :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Nice pics
They do tire out quite quickly, lots of sleeps and lots of play.
The one in the bottom pic looks like he means business
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Oh Katie they're gorgeous ;D. I hope you have many years of
mayhem fun ahead. :evillaugh:
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Oh my word what gorgeous kittens. Come on you've got to tell use the whole story, how did you hear about them, cat mad family how many cats do they have, when did you collect them, have you any ideas on names yet etc?
I wonder if I come and visit I could fit them in my over night bag ;)
Congratulations to you all.
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Hi there, kitty chaos!
You know this, it makes me just realise how small and how poorly wee Indie really was. These guys are twice her size with more than double the energy. They are completely bonkers!
We still haven't picked names yet because we can't agree, I want Scottish and my OH doesn't (she's English!), well come on, Dora??! Let's just say I'm not a girly girl and I won't be shouting that out the back door!!
Anyway, you won't believe the story. I was sitting moping because my tortie kittens had fallen through and I went onto Purrs. I noticed that I had a message from Nicola. She was basically sympathising with me and saying if there's nothing in the rescue then it might be worth trying private litters because in the end they need a home too. She'd been on gumtree and had seen a litter ready to go in Nairn, is that anywhere near you!
Well I'm straight onto Gumtree, phone the man and in the car all within quarter of an hour! My OH going ape because there's 50 mile an hour winds, it's pouring with rain and pitch dark, we haven't a clue where we're going and she has to get back for her work in roughly the turnaround time! Thank goodness for Satnav, but the weather was atrocious. So we get to this country cottage and it seems like there's dozens of cats at the back door, there were probably about ten! There were three ginger tabbies of varying stripes, all toms and one ticked tabby girl who I just fell in love with! So we took the most stripey ginger Tom and the tabby girl.
Because we left at short notice we couldn't get our cat carrier from our lockup so brought a cardboard box and a fleece blanket.....fail. Two little kittens sat with their heads sticking up watching all the car lights!
We have decided to keep them in our bedroom and bathroom for a couple of nights just to settle in and yes as I write this lying on our bed, one is sitting upright on my shoulder and ginger tom is curled up against my tum. I have never heard purring like it, it's like purring in stereo!
So all good and chuffed with our new kitties, but as I was saying to Dave, we only really have one problem that's stressing me. The dogs. We have a big crate for the kitties at night and thank goodness they were investigating it at the time, because in shoots our Jack russell, who was fine with Indie, but goes up growling at the bars, the kitties went into vicious ninja mode and were obviously terrified. Then bounding at the rear came Staffa the clown lab barking at he didn't know what and ofcourse when he saw the hissing kittens, he took to his heels and ran away. Mayhem.
Aw my babies are both curled up under my chin. You were so right to get two Nic, they have played and chased all day, it has been so hilarious to watch. They are going for a vet check/jags on Monday so we will need to discuss one getting neutered, is it usually the boy? This can stop them spraying can't it?
So much to learn. Right better away and get that baby name book out. My kittens, my decision, I say!
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They are lovely. Get them both spayed/neutered when they are old enough, not just one of them. 4 months will be about right.
Thomas O'Malley for ginger and Duchess for tabby
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Depending on the vet, they might be neutered/spayed very soon. A lot of vets go by weight rather than age. If only one can be done, that'll give you breathing space until the other one can.
Neutering will certainly make spraying less likely for the male, I've never known a female to spray. They both still might, but only (so I've read) if they're very distressed.The one male cat I had stopped completely after the op.
They'll be fine with the dogs when they all settle down in with the new set-up. At the moment, the dogs see two intruders, and the kittens see a whole new world.
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Depending on the vet, they might be neutered/spayed very soon. A lot of vets go by weight rather than age. If only one can be done, that'll give you breathing space until the other one can.
Neutering will certainly make spraying less likely for the male, I've never known a female to spray. They both still might, but only (so I've read) if they're very distressed.The one male cat I had stopped completely after the op.
They'll be fine with the dogs when they all settle down in with the new set-up. At the moment, the dogs see two intruders, and the kittens see a whole new world.
Holly, my beautiful black female gurl, sprayed for 2 years after she had been neutered and it smelt like tom cat. The vet said that it wasn't a common occurrence but not unknown
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I initially wrote that they don't. I'm glad I rewrote it before posting! :rofl:
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What a story and we need loads of pictures.
they will need to settle in and a cage is a good idea to start with when you are not there and am sure Staffa will love them. Hope its not got bars as they may be able to get out.
The only thing that terrible woman did right was socialize Indie but you are right she must have been so ill :(
Scottish v English thats gonna be hard :innocent:
I am surprised that the satnav didnt send you into a loch :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
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I had such a grin on my face reading that! So pleased for you.
I bet Gwyn was delighted with me for sending you out in a gale, to Nairn, on a kitten hunt!!
Seriously amazed you managed to transport them in a box, you should've seen my two on route home from the fosterer! Chester hung from the top of the carrier screeching for the entire journey!
Can't wait to hear what names you settle on. They're adorable!
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I dunno, turn your back for 5 minutes and I come back to this! Brilliant news! ;D Congratulations on your new arrivals. too tired to say much at the moment but watch out for the ginger - gingers are trouble ;)
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Fantastic news Katie, they are:
A - adorable
B - beautiful
C - cuddly
D - dreamy
etc.
I think they should be called Bonnie and Charley as in Bonnie Prince Charley.
It would be great to have another tabby called Bonnie after my Bonnie going to The Bridge this April :Luv2:
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Or Bonnie and Clyde !
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I definitely vote for Hamish for the ginger lad ;D
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I'm sticking with Freya for the gurl ;D
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After much deliberation we have Bonnie (in memory of Mary's Bonnie) and Archie who looks like butter wouldn't melt in the photo but he's a complete lunatic!
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Progress this morning Dave, Archie and Staffa my lab were nose to nose without spitting, there was a wee arched back but he's the most forward one so we're getting there. Bonnie on the other hand is a real scaredy cat and hisses, spits and arches her back like a porcupine, so a bit of convincing needed there.
So thank everyone for your naming assistance. More tales from Bonnie and Archie to follow.........
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:Luv2: that's bought a wee tear to my eye, we have another Bonnie on the site :Luv2:
They look gorgeous and I don't believe they would ever be naughty! Ever! :evillaugh:
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Awww, I am so glad that Archie and Bonnie have found you. You are going to have such fun! :naughty:
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what a story, we had a beautiful ticked tabby boy Algie and I have to say he was wonderful - so happy to hear we have another bonnie, a great tribute to a lovely girl I bed mary is chuffed :Luv2:
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Thanks everybody, pleased as punch. :Luv2: :Luv2:
Further progress, two kittens and two dogs in the bedroom with no dramas. In fact Archie was sitting on top of the scratching post watching everyone go past at doggy height. He's so bold, he's into everything and they both act like they're starving! Every time you lift a china bowl or open a packet they come flying into the kitchen and meow their heads off. We feed them wet food three times a day, is that enough? Archie is pretty thin and Bonnie is chunkier. They're probably just fast growing hungry kittens! :wow:
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Bonnie and Archie..............Mary will be over the moon ;D ;D
DEpends what you are feeding them....is it kitten food?
Sounds like things are settling already ;D
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Also, where are you feeding them, and can the dogs swipe it!
If possible, some dry food, along with a bowl of water, would make sure they don't go hungry for too long when you're not there. Is the cage big enough to keep food a little way from the litter tray?
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Hi Gill
They're getting Felix kitten pouches, about half a pouch, each 3 X day. It disappears like lightning! Starting to mix in Bozita which is much higher protein so it will maybe sustain them for longer.
Have got nothing done today, kitten watching! :Luv2:
They absolutely love their cat tree.
Oh and Nic, they have solid poos! :rofl:
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How old are they Katie?
If over 8 weeks then what you are doing foodwise sounds right if this is for each kitten. Kitten food is very rich to help them grow.
Kitten watching sounds just great and hope you have camera to hand ;D
I am auction warching..............sigh
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Kittens need 3 pouches a day each. I fed mine half a pouch of Felix 6 times a day plus biscuits
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Wow Andrew, really???!! So I'm starving them!! Won't they be happy bunnies when they wake up!
They are over 9 weeks and run about like crazy so I suppose they could do with extra!!! ;D
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Thats why they are hungry!
Sorry misread how much you were feeding :-[ :-[ :-[
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You are so right everyone, I am super well chuffed :thanks: :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:
Katie you are a star :hug: I hope she is as loving as Bonnie was and doesn't end up in Mosi's Naughty Club ;)
I love the latest photo of the pair, I hope they stay good friends :hug: :Luv2:
It's gonna be great seeing them grow up. Bonnie was with me for just over 7 years and I got her from the RSPCA when she was 10 so I never enjoyed her kitten years.
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Bonnie was beautiful Mary. how lovely that she now has a gorgeous wee kitten named after her :Luv2:
The monsters are on about 2 and a half pouches a day plus dry food Katie. They have a good routine now with mealtimes, but also look for food in between meals sometimes and get one. Usually after a mental play session!!
they don't eat large amounts in one sitting though, tends to be half a pouch each feed.
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They're both absolutely gorgeous Katie :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Wow Andrew, really???!! So I'm starving them!! Won't they be happy bunnies when they wake up!
They are over 9 weeks and run about like crazy so I suppose they could do with extra!!! ;D
;D ;D They will sleep it off, they sleep better on full tummies ;D
I played with the hoolies then fed them, then they ran around a bit longer, went for a poop then went to sleep. I still do.
They have started to eat more dry food over the last few months so they only have 1- 2 pkts of wet food a day now. It is different for indoor cats though, they don't need as much as they get older.
Lovely names :Luv:
Lovely pics Mary :Luv:
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I wouldn't restrict the food of kittens - let them eat as much as they want. Most go through phases of being greedy pigs and then eating a bit more sensibly. I got slightly worried about Kito at one point as he was such a little piggy and was getting a bit portly but he really has stopped eating for England and he is growing into his chubbiness ;)
Lovely pics and of both Bonnies. The kittens look very small.
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Thanks for compliments re:Bonnie's pics, luckily I have so many to remember her by :Luv2: :hug:
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Sorry folks, life and kittens taking over a bit just now, not keeping up my posting duties. :innocent:
Was explaining to Mary that my sleep is a bit upside down, which I'm finding doesn't really match with kitten hours, so I'm shattered. Along with being a bit off anyway, I'm feeling a bit all over the place.
Aside from that, my entertainment furbabies are just fantastic. Bonnie is going to be just like yours Mary, she loves a cuddle and she's more timid than Archie. She watches everything from the rear, then plucks up courage to run in and then at the slightest thing runs all the way back again. They both love their tree and sleep at the very top. I have my heart in my mouth when they're climbing in.
Bonnie is so funny with the dogs, who I have to say have been so good, in fact Staffa thinks he's a kitten too now and runs round the living room with them. We have one of those figure of eight tracks with the ball in which is great because the dog can't pinch the ball so he just sit right beside them eagerly watching them swipe at the ball. Great toy that from the purrs shop.
Bonnie for all the size of her was spitting and arching her back like nobodys business with the dogs at the start, in fact they both were, but within 24 hrs, walks past those giant lab legs and if he moves too quick, she does a rather feeble hiss now and carries on unperturbed. I would never have believed it. Archie the Ninja (Susanne, you were so right, he's nuts) his confidence has gone through the roof! He used Staffa to climb up the back of the sofa by stepping up his back yesterday. Fair play to Staffa he just stayed lying down and looked as surprised as we were. I so get the hanging off the blind thing now Nic.!
Forget the game plan of getting used to one room, Archie races from one room to the next and if he bumps into anything, he does that arched sideways bouncing which is so funny to watch. I sense it's going to get more crazy by the day. :Crazy:
Loved seeing your photos Mary, being a photographer I keep thousands, both digital and paper. Great to have memories.
Here's a few of mine, I will have to learn the knack of action shots!
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Don't they just make your heart melt? Archie reminds me a bit of Jaffa when he was little. I just love that pic of them curled up together on the cat tree - makes them look very small. Is that a Tigga Towers cat tree?
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Hi Susanne
It was one from Zooplus if I can remember right. It's good cos it's quite narrow and you can just see it in the photo, it has a basket bed with a cosy cushion on the top.
Love the name Jaffa :Luv2:
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The tree is from Zooplus, called a Natural Home lll and is on this page, it got good reviews and it's very sturdy.
http://t.zooplus.co.uk/shop/cats/scratching_posts/medium
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Its great that they're settling so quickly with the dogs.
:Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv: those photos! What little beauties you got!
I especially love the one of Archie on the top of his post, he's got trouble written all over him that one :evillaugh: Him and Chester could have some fun together. I'm telling you, we need to introduce these cat playdates. The kittens can get together and trash the place while us mummies drink bubbly :rofl:
Speaking of which - I see tinsel! Have you got a tree up? How are they with it?
So what time are they getting you up in the morning? I haven't been up later than 8am since my two arrived and that feels like a lie in now! They are WILD in the morning. I can usually be found about 6am, standing in a bathrobe in the middle of the living room, hair on end, eyes half shut, dazedly waving a wand toy around. If I manage to drink a coffee while doing it, it's a good morning :tired:
I'm planning to use my Christmas break to take power naps while they sleep. Just the thought of extra sleep....ahhhhhhhh...sleep, how I miss you :rofl:
Heart in mouth while watching cat tree antics sounds very familiar. Just wait till they start having wrestling matches on it's highest point and swiping at each other while balanced on back legs up there :evillaugh:
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What beautiful kittens and lovely names.
How lovely that we had Mary's lovely Bonnie, and now her lovely namesake. Archie is adorable too. :Luv2:
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Great pics and love ARchie on top of the post, cant imagine one so small to be able to do that ;D ;D ;D
Dont talk about lack of sleep grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr................in my case its the neighbours and hammering two days running now and still going on! Started about 4 months ago!
I so understand people who dont do mornings and so pleased there are now at least 3 of us :shify: :shify:
That pic with Archie with his head on Bonnies back is great ;D
Staffa sounds like a typical Lab, soft gentle and patient and great they are all getting along so quickly ;D ;D
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It is so good to hear that the babies are settling in so well. Sounds azif Staffa is a typical daft lab ;D
Cleo is not a morning girl. She did have some breakfast at around 8.30, when hubs got up, then she went back to bed until after 11.00 So, all you have to do if you want a good night's sleep is wait until they are 13 or so... :evillaugh:
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They really are adorable Katie :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Thanks for all your positive remarks everybody. ;D I just love my fur babies, they are going to be really good for me. :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
It's official, the McKitties have taken over. They no longer just stay in the vicinity of their cat tree, they now occupy all corners of the room (and rooms), including under the tv unit and under the wood burner (when it's off!) and in the log basket. They race along the back of the sofas at break neck speed, fighting and swiping tinsel as they go. The dogs are now a mere obstacle. The progress and change is quite unbelievable. I can't believe I can't remember any of this wild behaviour from my cats from years ago! :Crazy: :Crazy: :Crazy:
After all my 'pre kitten' research, I thought just for interest you may want to know my findings in practice. What has amazed me is the choice available for everything now. God I sound like my granny. :innocent:
It's over 30 years since I had my first cat and as I remember, there were just wood pellets or Catsan litter and that was it. Catsan was seen as the really 'advanced' litter. I can remember my mum buying it in a paper type bags in the Co-op!
I'm finding the OkoPlus CatsBest litter really good, no odours, great clumps which I bin in scented nappy bags. I did put it down the loo a couple of clumps at a time but the toilet blocked. The remaining clean litter in the box apparently lasts for ages. I'm glad I got covered litter trays too, they're a bit cumbersome but you get used to them. The hinged one from Zooplus is really good but I also have one with kittens on the side that has a top flap that lifts and is a good shape, higher at the back half for squirty boys. :evillaugh: I think I may actually have shares at Zooplus now and I kinda get the impression I'm not the only one! ;D
I do apologise experienced cat people if this is very mundane, been there, got the tshirt for you, but you never know, you may have had a cat so long the litter tray has worn out and a wee Purrs review is just what you're looking for ;) Or conversely you may tell 'me' about a 'must have' item. I just thought a bit of light hearted banter concerning my kitties would be fun. ;D
Oh and a wee special message for Pav, after seeing my posts you'll see there's a familiar theme running through the threads, I'm a bit of a blether (chatterbox). If there's something to be said, why say it in one word when you can do it in twenty! You see I don't sleep very well so I just chat away like you were sitting beside me with a hot chocolate and marsh mallows. The great thing about the internet of course is, one click and she's gone. ;D
What else did I look at like someone obsessed? Ah yes, Food, oh my word, I just about had a break down choosing cat food. With cereal, without cereal, got Taurine, not got Taurine, with veg, without veg. Wet verses dry, jelly or gravy?? I was just about round the bend. Well I try to do my natural, Eco bit and I do believe in giving my pets as natural as possible combined with cost and convenience................but then comes along 'the actual cat', not remotely interested in any high meat content Elk in gravy and arrives on Asdas Tiger pouches full of cr*p and loves it! Another notch on the steep learning curve. :-[
Another trauma was choosing a cat tree, do we really need one of those tacky fake fur covered monstrosities in our little cottage lounge? It's the food thing all over again. With or without hammock, beige fake fur or charcoal, sturdy enough for a Maine coone or just the job for your common or garden moggy out of last week's newspaper? We needed one to fit into a particular space, so lots of measuring was required and ofcourse the Mrs wanted an aesthetically pleasing one. So we are now the proud owners of a light beige, faux fur cat tree with, I kid you not, woven hyacinth baskets and lounging levels. :innocent: I'm sure I could have knocked it together with a bit of birch tree and some MDF!
Now I could start with another main notch on the steep learning curve.......the observation of poo. But I think we'll save that for another day, that's just a whole subject in itself! Plus look at the time, fat lot of good that sleeping tablet did, Mary will be given me a row for being on my iPad again. ;) Plus my mother is coming tomorrow to see Bonnie and Archie and "it's just not on to still be in your bed", "you should be up that beach getting fresh air in your lungs." I tell you, if I went up that beach just now I'd end up in Norway it's so bl**dy windy.
Thanks for your company, night x
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Katie, I have cat trees everywhere. Shop bought and homemade. I went bonkers in the auction and have two, yes two more on the way :Crazy: Can never have to many :evillaugh:
So now we go from poo to wee :rofl:
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The cat tree is the best thing that I've ever bought. They are never off it. They only thing is they sleep on it instead of me :'(
By the way they say thanks for telling meowmy about giving us more grub, were eatin loads more and a dish of dry too! Nice one! ;D
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:evillaugh: :evillaugh: Katie, what you must have clocked by now is that we're all fascinated about anything to do with our cats, your cats, everyone's cats. Be it beds, litter, wee, poo, daft antics and tender moments - it's all up for discussion. We're always learning something new from everyone's own experiences. And what's wrong with a chatterbox? Be a very boring forum if none of us spoke much! :evillaugh:
I've just been fortunate enough to have received the Jackson Galaxy "Catisfaction" book, so am now eyeing up the walls, floor and ceiling space with a speculative gaze..... ;) Having said that, the cats have beds in the dining room, in the living room, in all of the bedrooms, on the sofas and the chairs - wherever they take a liking to be honest. Not as swanky as yours mind - that's pretty special. :)
And cat food? I reckon we've all come up against that one. What do we feed them? Whatever they'll eat in the end. :tired:
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welcome to our world ;D
Cat trees are great. I have a 6 footer fake fur monstrosity and Kito loves to sleep at the top. I have one about 3 feet tall by the window which I have had for 18 years so have ordered a super duper rock solid replacement at an eye watering price, I have the pieces of a ceiling high broken tree dotted around as still get used, a small one in the hall..... I only live in a one bed flat!
I am one of the lucky ones with food as they eat what I want them to eat, Mosi's current tummy troubles aside so happy kitty company and zooplus serve all our needs but I still can't resist looking around pets at home to peruse their food selection
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I can't believe I can't remember any of this wild behaviour from my cats from years ago! :Crazy: :Crazy: :Crazy:
I'm nodding my head at that. I'm sure kittens were calmer 15 years ago when I last had them....or was I just younger and less knackered? :rofl:
but then comes along 'the actual cat', not remotely interested in any high meat content Elk in gravy and arrives on Asdas Tiger pouches full of cr*p and loves it! Another notch on the steep learning curve. :-[
Having donated a mountain of high quality food to the local sspca shelter and having a kitten with a serious whiskas treats addiction in need of kitten rehab, I can sympathise :rofl:
We needed one to fit into a particular space, so lots of measuring was required and of course the Mrs wanted an aesthetically pleasing one.
Good God, you could be my OH talking :rofl: Oh yes, the hunt for a 'tasteful' cat tree! I adore ours and thank God the monsters do too. The mother in law calls ours the cat Hilton. Hilton?? It's more like the feline Trump Towers thank you very much :evillaugh:
Now I could start with another main notch on the steep learning curve.......the observation of poo. But I think we'll save that for another day, that's just a whole subject in itself!
Poo watch!!! I should start a thread on this :rofl: We have poo code in our house now. Everything from 'squirts' to 'Mr Whippy' to 'Pencil Poop'. And of course, I live my life celebrating every glorious sausage poo :rofl: :rofl:
It's so lovely to read you talking about them Katie, all the love and excitement they've brought into your life is so obvious! :Luv2:
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sausages are the holy grail of poo ;)
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Just laughin so much at your post katie.......should have read it during the long sleepless night I just had!
So true all of it and especially saying things in many words rather than a few................cant do the few myself :rofl: :rofl:
I have never had kittens that young so only can read about the fun and chaos they cause and love to hear all about it and pics of course ;D ;D
Often think I could make a cat tree but havent figured out how to fix sisal to the post without poisoning with glue or using nails or staples! If you know a way let me know please.
Have been searching for the right tree for Lupin all year and not one even close cos I need a 50 x50 cm flat without edges top place so he can lazer and eat up there and watch through the window etc etc. Getting the wood no problem and can fix something softish to it, even a carpet tile which he is using at the moment but such a bloomin problem............he is a very long cat and last night realized he now sits taller than Misa!
Soooooooooooo this thread needs loads more photos and even a video of McKitten mayhem :rofl: :rofl:
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sausages are the holy grail of poo ;)
Pork or beef :rofl:
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I refitted sisal on our tree Gill, a staple top and bottom keeps it on as long as it is tight
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Dont the staples pull out with rough cats?
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I got them as close to the bottom and top as possible horizontal - they've been in place 3 or 4 years
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sausages are the holy grail of poo ;)
:Nooooo: :no: :Nooooo: :no: Sausages are good but Nuggets are the Holy Grail.
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Thanks dawn ;D ;D
Oh hell what have I got myself into this time lol
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On your IPad at what time? :Crazy: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :Crazy: :Crazy: :rofl: :rofl: :hug:
Poo conversations are a regular thing on Purrs Katie :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
Archie and Bonnie are just soooooooooooooo gorgeous.
My cat before Bonnie was Smudge and he was friends with the ginger puss up the road (Thomas) and quite often when I opened the door to let Smudge in, Thomas would follow and they would lay together on the rug in front of the fire.
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Awwww, how lovely to see Thomas making himself at home :Luv2:
When Iwas a kid a ginger cat used to visit us often and I always said that I would have a ginger cat on day and call him Mr Chivers (Chivers are a company that make marmalade ). My adored Chivvy died 5 years ago at the age of 19 :'( He was run over at the age of 2, losing a back leg and breaking his jaw in 2 places, I never thought he would make 'old bones' so was delighted he did so well :) I have something of a soft spot for jinjas!
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I loves gingers too and wonderful pics Mary , never seen them before ;D ;D ;Ds
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Lovely seeing all those photos. Smudge and his wee pal, so sweet. ;D lovely gingers.
Ginger and proud! I'm red headed, my parents are red headed and my brother too! Now even my cat!!
My parents just fell in love with them when they were over. My daughter who has a 7 month old grey cat cannot believe how crazy Archie is, it's that ginger thing!!!
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Can't believe I have only just found this, congratulations on acquiring the Tornado's :evillaugh:, the only ginger I have ever had was my Troubles brother, they had identical markings, just one tabby and one ginger. He was called Pixel after Robert A Heinlen's Cat Who Walks Through Walls. The kitten (ginger, of course :evillaugh:) walked through walls because he was too young to know that he couldn't.
They are gorgeous kittens...............Let the mayhem ensue!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I adore ginjas too. :Luv: Padster, MacBeenz and Ross being ma beautiful ginger babies. :Luv2:
Am also red and proud, as was my Father. It owes much to henna these days but mine own is red in ma genes. :)
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Gingers rock! Or so Mosi tells me ;) I have a soft spot for gingers and both Jaffa and Mosi were/are red heads. Now just the 1 ginger ninja of course.
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Love those photos mary. And your garden looks gorgeous!
There's something special about ginger cats :Luv:
I'd love red hair. In my twenties I was forever dying it various shades of red. But I gave in and accepted that as I'm very dark brown, it's never going to be proper red with dye >:(
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Thanks everyone, the pics of Smudge and Thomas are from before I came on here so probably about 10 years ago now.
I miss my garden but I had to make it in to a drive way for my car as the parking down by my house is really bad so when I wanted to drive my mum around and finding it harder carrying my own shopping and decided to get a car after being without one since I past my test many moons ago I decided to get the kerb dropped and make a drive so there would be no arguments with neighbours.
Luckily I still have some flowers in front of my window and my pine trees, pampas grass, rosemary, lavender and other bushes, so not all bad. Not fit enough to see to it all now any way.
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sausages are the holy grail of poo ;)
:Nooooo: :no: :Nooooo: :no: Sausages are good but Nuggets are the Holy Grail.
sorry to lower the tone again but I beg to differ. Nuggets are edging towards constipation. Sausages are what we want ;D
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sausages are the holy grail of poo ;)
:Nooooo: :no: :Nooooo: :no: Sausages are good but Nuggets are the Holy Grail.
sorry to lower the tone again but I beg to differ. Nuggets are edging towards constipation. Sausages are what we want ;D
I thought coffee beans were more constipation :rofl:
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Are you familiar with the Bristol Stool Scale (although it was devised for oomans rather than cats)?
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Oh Lynn, 1st time I saw this in my mum's file in hospital I couldn't believe it. I bet trainee nurses have a right laugh when they are in class learning about it :rofl:
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OMG...............lookin away :shify: :shify: :shify:
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I have seen that before.
Think perhaps we need a subject change... :shify:
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I got to know a fair few nurses when Dad was alive, they visited twice a week for about 10 years, they are a great bunch and yes they are fascinated by stuff like poo, the colour, the texture, the smell, density etc. :rofl: Don't get them started on the colour of pee!
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I got to know a fair few nurses when Dad was alive, they visited twice a week for about 10 years, they are a great bunch and yes they are fascinated by stuff like poo, the colour, the texture, the smell, density etc. :rofl: Don't get them started on the colour of pee!
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Just popped on to catch up with my thread and I'm laughing out loud. Haven't seen that scale chart before, mind you, it was sick kids I nursed. Now babies nappies, that's a whole subject in itself because both pee n poo are mixed together!! :rofl:
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Now back to things of a serious feline nature. Young Archie has the runs (I believe that's a type 7) and he is sneezing fairly regularly. He hasnt a wet nose or fast breathing, after Indie I actually felt physically sick counting his resps. Otherwise he's as crazy as ever and eating well.
When I mentioned his runny poo last time I don't think I explained myself very well. They have both been on Bozita for 5 days now, I upped the amount after some advice from my lovely Purrs friends and that went fine. So I thought I would try some dry to offer during the day. I sprinkled some on top of the Bozita morning and night. Then the next day Archie got diarrhoea and still has it 2 days later and I stopped the dry straight away.
Bonnie has been fine. In typical nurse fashion I've examined their poo closely and there was no evidence of worms. Due a vet appointment tomorrow so we'll see.
With having a new young pet, I have a little bet on with myself to see if the vet will recommend Royal Canin food products, another company's insurance and a monthly health plan to me. This drives me INSANE because the vet company earn a substantial profit as is without needing commission from a company who have already overpriced their product to cover it. People try to excuse it by saying "Ah that's just how business works" no it isn't, it's blatant opportunistic profiteering. People are literally put on the spot in the treatment room, waiting room or both and feel in a very difficult position to say know. I'll gladly pay for quality service but not through dishonest marketing which isn't benefitting the consumer and more importantly their animal. >:(
What am I like? I'm on a rant 'again'! This new medication seems to be giving me a new 'kick ass' attitude. The next time I write I'll be signing as Nicola Sturgeon or Lara Croft, preferably the latter ;)
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Lara Croft, poop raider :rofl: :rofl:
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: cracker!
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Nicola Sturgeon :rofl: :rofl: What do the Scots have about fish............Salmon followed by Sturgeon :innocent:
LOve that cat ;D
RC is cheaper on the web and my vet admits it..............infact nearly everything is unless you need a prescription!
Its the overcharging by vets that is bringing the insurance market crashing down.............another favorite topic on Purrs!
I must go to bed to sleep..............unlikely but one never knows!
Hope all goes well at the vets.
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Thanks Gill about the vet, it should be fine.
Yeh it's weird eh? All these fishy Scots everywhere. Was taught to never talk about politics or religion at parties so I'll move swiftly on...
I'm totally awake tonight :Crazy:, gonna be a long one!
It's the principal of greed and commission I hate and does the pet really benefit the most??
Yes I agree, conveniently the Internet has the ability to offer cheaper goods for those that have the access and the knowledge. I always research online first if I'm making a reasonably big order or purchase but if it's something small like say a couple of fillet steaks we'd go to our local farm shop. I suppose it's taking advantage of market forces in one hand verses supporting your small local shops in the other. The customer has to do what is best for themselves or their business in the end.
One big example is Zooplus, my family totally take the mick out of me reporting on their incredible prices and the service online of this German company and they've got it so right. I could work for them, I get great pleasure in saying to people do you realise how much you could get that for online. Huge savings genuinely past onto the customer. Doesn't matter who you are, everyone wants to save money. ;D
Is there a chat or PM room on here, not that I've anything major to tell you or I'm going to rant any more, it's often just easier for conversation and people can join in. Be good for the insomniacs round here!
Or even just an empty padded room where I could rant on to myself :rofl:
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It's not uncommon for kittens to get the runs when they go to a new home - the stress of being in a new environment can cause it regardless of food. Given how little they are you need to keep on eye on whether Archie is dehydrated. I'm not a fan of RC except in emergencies. I think their veterinary diets are generally quite good and work for lots of cats - GI, sensitivity, calm etc. - and their renal food often seems the most palatable (it was the only one Jaffa seemed to like). However the ingredients are :censored: so for me personally it's a last resort. Mosi is doing well on the RC GI but I can't wait to get him off it and hopefully back onto what he was eating before. Many vets do push RC or Hills which I hate. Thankfully my vets don't stock food and have to order it in and they don't push anything in particular. I hate it when there are waiting rooms full of rubbishy food because the very fact that it's in the waiting room at a vets makes people think it's a good, vet approved food. You could try a probiotic in Archie's food or plain chicken for a day to see whether that sorts it and he is ok when you re-introduce the bozita. Good that he has a vet appointment booked but if the vet recommends RC I would question them as to why and whether an alternative cannot be tried e.g. chicken for a day, probiotic.
Have you looked at Happy Kitty Company, Katie? I shouldn't be leading you astray should I? And Archie obviously doesn't need new foods right now but they put a toy mouse in with every order which I think is so sweet. It's a rattly mouse and both Mosi and Kito go crazy for them but I struggle to find them in shops.
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Morning Susanne
I am ready to tell the vet the large amount of rice and veg fillers that is in their food and maize and rice being a main ingredient. I bet they don't even know what's in it. They have a huge stand in the waiting room.
I recognise The Happy Kitty co name, I'll need to have a wee look.
Have a nice day
Katie x
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Very good points Susanne.
Katie, yep I would too. We're fortunate inasmuch as like Susanne, our vet doesn't stock food, and doesn't push anything on clients. He does stock feliway and flea treatments but otherwise you're never put on the spot with a sales pitch.
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Yes there is a chat room on purrs and if you go to the blue bar whch starts with home its under fun and games...............WOT you haven't looked there! Its also where you find our art stuff :innocent:
Have to say that I don't go along with the rubbishy food brigade, just use foods that mine will eat and I can afford so Felix and other similiar just fine for mine. However stop at the apparently human recipes with vegetables in!!
Can't see from a post if I can see the blue bar lol...........what is this stoopid o'clock!
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Lara Croft, poop raider :rofl: :rofl:
This made me :rofl:
I can see you now in your kick ass shorts, armed with a poop scoop instead of a gun. Vaulting over furniture to get to the litter box :rofl:
It could still be worms Katie. Beau showed no symptoms other than runny poop and there was no signs of worms. But despite him having been treated before I got him, he still had a dose of worms. It cleared up after the second treatment.
My vets also don't stock food and there's no hard sell. He'll even tell you where you can get stuff cheaper. when jake needed renal food he told me to get it on zooplus rahter than order it through him.
I'm all too familiar with that poo chart I'm afraid. OH and I were consulting it regularly when Chester was bad. Purina have an animal version of it that is actually saved on my phone :rofl:
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Vets pushing cat food >:(.
I had to change vet a couple of years ago. My previous vet was a mixed conventional/homeopathic practice and never suggested RC or Hills without a good medical reason. My late mum's cat Georgie had renal problems and they suggested RC renal for her, wet and dry, which I used to get online.
When the vet decided to drop her conventional work I had to find another vet and although the one I've chosen is good at the vetting they constantly push Hills as though they are miracle foods. My three get Felix AGAIL and James Wellbeloved and I'll not be changing it without a :censored: good reason.
/rant off
Lara Croft, poop raider :rofl: :rofl:
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I think you may have found the best treatment for your toothache Katie - although I hope it's well and truly gone now :hug: - and that is these two adorable little tornados!
Bonnie and Archie are so cute! And what a story to go with them as well. :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
It's amazing just how quickly a cat/kitten can change a household...and the people/pets in it as well.
Really looking forward to reading more and more of the shenanigans these two get up to
Julz xx
P.S - How quickly will these two work out that there is a section just for cats/kittens alike lol.
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Afternoon all,
I've just had a look at the Happy Kitty Company and discovered there is a food called 'Om Nom Nom', I love it! ;D
Chivvy and Punky lasted for 20 years on Tesco's own 'standard' tinned food and either Tesco dried or Go Cat. I had heard people talking about how bad much commercial food is and thought they were rather extreme. Then we got Cleo, who had verrrrrry smelly poo and I read here that it would probably be less stinky on raw food. This co-incided with a friend telling me that she had started feeding her new cats on raw food from a local company, so I decided to give it a try. Since then I have read more about commercial cat foods and am happy to keep them on raw (although I have to mix it with a bit of Gourmet pate for Madam) for as long as they can/will eat it. The first vet I saw with Alfie did mention dry food in the same breath as 'overweight' but didn't actually name a specific brand and no-one else has suggested that we should feed them anything other than what they are getting. Cleo's poo is much less offensive most of the time - it was a relief to take the peg off my nose! :rofl:
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Squeeeee! Am just catching up - those two are just adorable!
Hopefully the poos will just settle down.
I must admit I use royal canin dried and felix/ gourmet perle wet. I have no idea what their poos smell or look like as they all go outside :evillaugh:
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Great, interesting replies thanks..
Particularly about worms Nic. Loved your Lara Croft description by the way, but if you saw the size of me you'd see I'd not be jumping over anything! But I felt real good there, just for a few seconds!!
Now a Purina Poop App, that IS impressive. That's the sign of a real Master Poop Observer (poor Chester :()
Gill I'm with you on the food, if my two wouldn't eat the raw high meat stuff, I'd give them what ever they would eat too, but perhaps not the stuff from the hard sell at the vets if I could help it!
Ive just received a text from DPD deliveries. My total admiration for Zooplus is shattered. I ordered food and litter on Tuesday night and it's not coming til Monday!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Excuse me whilst I make a couple of phonecalls................
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That's a pain, Katie. Most of my zooplus deliveries do come within about 3 days but I had one a few months ago that took a week. I blame DPD on that occasion as I'd had an email from zooplus saying it had been dispatched and collected by DPD so I emailed DPD who said it was because it was coming from Germany! I do think that can make a difference. I believe zooplus have a UK warehouse and some orders come from there but sometimes still from Germany.
Mosi and Kito love Om Nom Nom from HKC! It is pate style (coarse pate) but contains whole hearts. I cut them up a bit for Mosi but Kito loves them and has not had any problem with them being big pieces even when very little. I think I am very lucky with my boys as they do eat the good stuff. Kito seems to have a cast iron constitution and has had sausage/nugget poo ;) ever since he got here regardless of what I feed him. He did eat some felix at the breeder's but he also had bozita wet and Taste of the wild dry so his tum was used to the high meat percentage foods. Mosi has also been fine until his recent troubles.
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Been to the vet. He said both kittens within weight range for age but at the lower end. Jabbed and wormed and back in two weeks.
Didn't give him a chance to sell me some RC from the mountain of choice in the waiting room, but actually had a really interesting chat with the vet about different types of foods and effect on life health and weight in adult cats. He discussed raw food by freezing chicken joints in the freezer which I said I just couldn't do, not organised enough! So in the end to feed high meat low carb if poss. He did say I'd end up with leaner cats which people may think are under weight because everyone is so used to seeing weighty cats with tummys!
He did however try to sell me a monthly health plan which I actually took! When I sat and worked out the free vaccinations, free microchipping, free worming and flea treatment for a year, 25% off neutering and 10% off all products and treatment for the year too, it worked out a good deal.
I asked about early neutering to which they said they will likely do both together very early but will decide in 3 weeks time if Archies hazelnuts are down!
So a bit of an adventure this evening and all they've done is eat and sleep since we've come back.
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Both my kitten girls were spayed at 5 months, the earliest my vet would do them, I wasn't too worried about Bob, she wasn't savvy enough to work out how the cat flap worked, but she was flirting with Trouble (much good it would have done her - he was neutered years ago!) and I didn't want to risk it, Pippa is a husky, she has been able to use the (stiff) catflap since about 3 months old and I was terrified she would be pregnant before 5 months. Horrid kittun! She is 6 months younger than Bob (01/01/2015) and best estimate of little not so feral cat Pippa (29/06/2015) and she is over 2/3 of Bob's size! It's great, Bob used to play with Emo and Trouble, but I think it was a bit much for Trubs, since Bob got Pip to play with, she and Emo still rough house, but Trouble gets to play gently with the wiggly wagglers and catnip meeces by himself and he is getting very frail, very quickly and I don't know if he will make it to his birthday 03/03/2016 he will be 18. Emo is a 6 year old black 1/2 Norwegian Forest Cat and big at over 6KGS, so she dwarfs the rest.
I hope that gives you an overview of my feline family.
Paula xxx
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Aw thanks for that. I love hearing the background to everyone's cats because you start to get to know the people on Purrs but not their cats unless there's a story going about them.
Emo is some size, Archie weighed 750 grams today! It must be great to have cats with different characters and ages. But then there's the worry and the heartache of when they get old like Trouble. 18 years, that's such a long time to know your cat.
I'm so glad we got two cats, it's funny how's things turn out. I would have more but with the two dogs and now in a smaller house, I better not push my luck! :innocent:
It's very frustrating, since I've been very low I've not been sleeping, for the first time in my life. I slept absolutely fine before, strange. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing having the iPad. There's so much you can look up and read but I suppose it stimulates your brain too. I'd rather not be bored so I'll take my chances. :rofl:
Well off to flick through Facebook then try and count some kittens (they're much nicer than sheep)
Thanks for the chat.
Katie ;D
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Little Indies ashes came back yesterday. We are going to scatter them on the beach that we can see from the house.
Thank you all for your support and caring through Indies short little journey.
Time for fresh adventures for the McKitties, Bonnie and Archie, hence the little profile change. ;D
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Aww Katie, so sad, but lovely that you got her ashes home to scatter.
Big hugs xx
RIP wee Indie.
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Katie :hug:
RIP little Indie :RIP:
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:hug: :hug: Katie
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RIp little Indie, may your soul fly free.
I can't think of anything nicer.
I scattered some of my Husbands ashes off the local beach where his boat and fishing locker were to free his soul. He took 10 years out of being a very uncivil Civil Engineer to be a fisherman and loved his boat and the sea. The rest are to be interned with his Mum and Dad when the time is right.
Sorry if this makes me sound like a weirdo.
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It actually sounds honest and heart warming, I have a big lump in my throat. What a beautiful and entirely lucid thing to do. I'm sure you'll know when the final time is right to finish his journey.
Thank you for sharing that.. X
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Love the new name Katie ;D
RIP baby Indie you will always be a purr in your meowmys heart.
I think thats wonderful Paula :hug:
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Paula :hug: that sounds rather lovely.
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An update from the McKitty household. ;D
10 days in and dare I say it but things are going very well with the McKitties. Feels like that's them settled in now. They have the whole run of the house now too but are usually where we are. They come when called now too which is very sweet. :Luv2:
They're eating Bozita raw cartoned food but are currently on Felix Kitten as I underestimated how much they would eat, plus Zooplus, well DPD, are delivering in 6 days instead of the normal 3. >:( But God their poos smell just now and aren't like sausages anymore, so I hope that changes when their usual stuff comes back as it doesn't make for a pleasant bedroom atmosphere I can tell you!. :scared:
They are using the litter boxes no bother including their wee night one in their crate which we are still using, as when we let them go free, they run wild round the bedroom jumping on the dog and everything. Then they sleep on you so that you can't move and we get up looking wrecked and I don't sleep at the best of times. So for just now its cosy bed in their crate, door shut, blanket over the top and they didn't make a peep til 8 this morning.
I would never have believed in just over a week the kittens and our dogs would be getting on like they've always been together. Someone had told us that from day one, just put them down and let them get on with it. I tell you my heart was in my mouth lots of times. I have never seen kittens appear so evil and vicious as they were on day one. Backs arched hissing, scratching the lot. I'm in tears saying, "It's not going to work, we'll have to put them back" Tonight Archie was on the coffee table playing with a piece of paper and Staffa has his head leaning on the table just watching, literally 2 inches away and Archie went up nose to nose like he was giving him a kiss.....and did the photographer have a camera, iPhone, iPad?? No, of course not! :-[ Our wee old dog Pugsey just acts like their not there, 'Kittens, what kittens?' well until they've just finished eating and then Pug licks their bowls clean! :evillaugh:
Their two favourite things are their cat tree and their flip up cube from the Purrs shop, I could watch them for ages with that and Staffa does literally, with his head stuck through one of the portholes. He so thinks he's a cat and wants to join in! :rofl:
From day one they have both slept during the day in the top bed of their tree without fail. For some reason for the last two days Archie has decided to sit up on your knee and then as he gets more sleepy the lower he becomes, until he's flat out on your lap. It's so lovely. :Luv2:
So that's us up to date with Bonnie and Archie, long may it continue! ;D :Luv2:
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Love that Archie has started sleeping on your knee. It’s just such a lovely feeling when they’re out cold and purring on you :Luv2:
I can’t imagine the stress of introducing kittens to dogs at first, no wonder your heart was in your mouth! Sounds like they’re getting on perfectly though. I wonder if they’ll snuggle up together when they’re older. My mum had a cat who followed our old dog everywhere and loved sleeping on him :Luv:
I’ve been lucky so far with Zooplus deliveries, although my most recent order still isn’t here and I ordered it on Wednesday. Maybe it’s because it’s so close to Christmas? >:(
Now, Katie, this photo situation is unacceptable! There is a distinct lack of cute kitten photos on this thread. Don’t you realise you should have a phone permanently within reaching distance to capture all the cuteness? ;)
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So pleased everything is going better than expected :hug:
I totally, totally, totally agree with Nicola - MORE PHOTOS PLEASE.
Did you not know the number 1 rule on Purrs is PHOTOS?
Number 2 is DREAMIES ;) :hug:
Mary
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The cubes are fab arent they?!
More pics please!!!!
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So great that everything is going well ;D ;D
Agree with the others PHOTOS PHOTOS PHOTOS!
I mean if a photographer cant do it how are the rest of use to do it :innocent:
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we are lacking photos :innocent:
When Kito came to live with me he was obsessed with his cube ;D
So pleased they are all getting on.
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:need pics: :rofl: :rofl:
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Katie, you can report us for bullying you if you want ;) ;) ;) BUT we still want photos :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hug: :hug:
Mary
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I am a moderator as is Susanne and I am will not listen and dont think she will either :innocent:
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I am a moderator as is Susanne and I am will not listen and dont think she will either :innocent:
Do you ever feel ganged up on? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
PHOTO'S :naughty:
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Talk about pressure!! ;)
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww staggering pictures, just love them both ;D ;D ;D
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Pester power........ ;) :evillaugh:
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They are scrumptious!!!
Love the photo's, espeically the first one of Bonnie
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They are both so yummy Katie :hug: :Luv2: :hug: :Luv2: :hug:
MORE MORE MORE :naughty:
Mary
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:Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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:Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
Gorgeous, budding hoolies
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Awwww :Luv2: I love Bonnie's little ear tufts ;D
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Where did you say you lived? I might venture up home to visit my folks and indulge in a little kitten napping on the way home :rofl: :Luv2:
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Very kind thanks goes to Mary for her understanding with our name change for Bonnie.
As much as I would have loved a name sake for Mary's own wee cat, a bit of family pressure has persuaded me to go for something less Scottish that suits our own little lady. Apparently she 'just doesn't look like a Bonnie' so I have succumbed to the masses and named her something else. We have decided to called our McKitties,
Archie and Luna. To be honest she gets called 'Madam' most of the time as she discovers yet another piece of furniture to climb over or under to investigate. As for Archie, don't even ask!.......as for me, not much better. :(
Best wishes to everyone in their pre Christmas week.
Katie x
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Not genteel enough for Bonnie then :rofl: :rofl:
Sorry you are nit feeling any better and hope things ger sorted asap :hug: :hug:
Just finished with all the shopping I have time for as back on the medical trail tomorrow grrrrrrrrrrr
Hope the seasonal time will be good for you ;D ;D
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No, certainly not a 'lady', she's turning into a Luna...tic. Not a complete nut like Archie though. He has no fear!
Good luck with trudging through your own medical trail Gill. This is the worst spell of depression I've have for a very long time, very frustrating but at least I have my McKitties, it's great watching them going mad and getting cuddles now and then. Just wish I could flick a switch and get back to my normal self.
Have lots of festive fun and best wishes for 2016.
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Thank you and would love some McKitties myself.........................no I wouldnt one Lupin is enough LOL.
Must go and get my calming pill......sigh
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;D ;D ;D ;D
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Luna....tic :rofl: :rofl:
Lovely to get an update from you Katie and glad your little rascals are doing well.
Hope things start to improve soon for you :hug:
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Thanks for the update, it's lovely to hear news of the McKitties but I'm sorry you are still feeling so rough. Hopefully, you will know from past experience that this will not last forever, even if it feels like it at the moment :hug:
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Well the fog seems to be lifting and I was even out for drinks last night, its amazing how much bubbly you can get down your neck when you're sitting quietly in the corner! Perhaps that's what I should have done in the first place!
I hope everyone has had a nice time so far too.
I just love my kitties, we are well settled now. They are coming when you call them and sitting on your knee when they're sleepy, well except for Archie who has now developed a friendship with Staffa our lab. They go everywhere together. Staffa pretends to be a cat and goes in and out of the pop up cube to play, then chases after him without stepping on him somehow. He waits outside the litter box for Archie too and even tidies up any little bit of litter on the floor whilst he's waiting! Then when they're done, Staffa curls up on the sofa and makes room for Archie who climbs under his legs and goes to sleep. It just so cute.
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Luna is still the more timid one, that's when she's not racing from room to room, jumping up in the air with her imaginary friend and launching herself at the telly and behind the Sky box!! Luna.....tic right enough! She'll purr like nothing on earth with a few strokes, but it's on her terms. If she sits on your knee and you fuss her too much she's away. I just love her markings and her ticked fur. When my parents came to visit on Christmas Day, all my mum kept saying was, "what a beautiful cat. It really is a beautiful cat, look Charlie, isn't she a beautiful cat" Then she played with Archie all the time instead of exchanging presents.Great company.
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They are both eating well, especially Archie, but I am a bit worried he's a bit thin. There's just nothing on him and you can see his wee ribs. I can see they've have both grown but he's more length wise. He's pretty scrawny. My OH thinks it's because he's on the go all the time and is expending lots of energy. We'll see what the vet says when we take them for their next jabs on Monday.
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Glad you're feeling better Katie :hug: Champagne will do that ;D
Love the pics :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: Poor Staffa's back leg, being used as a kicker and a bone :rofl:
Luna isn't going to be as big as Archie, she will always look smaller and skinnier, females are. The vet will let you know if it's anything to worry about but I don't think it is
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Wrong way round Andrew lol, its Archie who is thinner :innocent:
I suspect its cos of all his activity, is he rating well and enough?
So pleased you are feeling a bit better and just love the pics, good job labs are so gentle and caring ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks for the update Katie, I'm glad you are feeling a bit better. Don't panic if the improved mood doesn't last, that's just the nature of this beast :(
What a lovely friendship between Archie and Saffa! ;D
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Katie, I am so glad you are a little better, and that you have a baby/kitten sitter, fabulous photo's of Archie and his new friend :Luv2:, and Luna is beautiful. :hug: :hug: :hug:
Paula xxx
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Ahhh Katie, I haven't been on since before Christmas & then pop on and find these gorgeous pics!!
What a perfect little furry family you have.
Really glad your'e feeling a bit better, hope it continues.
Chester is a skinny lad too, he's all legs. My vet told me to stop worrying as he's just growing quickly & expending so much energy that there's no extra flesh (the opposite of me this time of year!)
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Oh Katie, the pics of Archie and Staffa just got better and better :Luv2: :hug:
Glad your mum got her priorities right on Christmas Day ;) :rofl:
Mary
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Well Archie and Luna have discovered the porch.....and the Christmas tree! Wee monkeys.
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Archie making a protest to take it down, 'I will not, I will not be moved!'
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That's your cards for next Christmas sorted!
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Luna is gorgeous with that ticked fur and yes they found the tree, clever little monsters :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Dave's right, that would make a lovely Christmas card, adorable :Luv2: :hug: :Luv2:
Love the pic with Staffa and Archie - does he think he is Archie's dad? :Luv2: :hug:
Wish I could put my hands through my screen and cuddle all 3 of them :hug: :hug: :hug:
Mary
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Gorgeous, gorgeous, GORGEOUS!!
I so miss my boys being that teeny tiny :Luv2:
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There are compensations to them growing up, they calm down......eventually!
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Oh wow, they are both soooooo cute!!! :Luv2:
I love Lunas colouring :Luv2:
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I am so jealous, Bob is all growed up at 1 and Pippa is a big (to me) 6 month old, nearly as big as Bob. She has lost that wide eyed 'kitten' look now. The McKitties are just so sweet, as are yours Nicola :Luv2:
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Hope you & the McKitties are doing well x
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seconded
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Well the McKitties have their feet fully under the table now.....or should I say on top of it!! :evillaugh: Things are going well with a nice little routine established. We bought a tree for the bedroom with two beds on it as having two dogs and two cats on the bed was getting ridiculous, we were curled up like squirresl in a ball trying to get to sleep! Well the tree didn't work in the slightest, they just used it to launch off to get onto the bed! We then decided to get two dog beds, which has worked a treat with the cats sumptuously sprawled on their own across the bed just as they'd planned!
We were doing well on the Bozita with a few biscuits in between but we noticed a bit of blood at the end of Archies stools and thought he was a bit thin. The vet felt that such a high protein diet was straining his system at his age and he wasn't putting on enough weight. So all change, much to my disappointment, they are both
now on Felix AGAIL but more importantly love it and are thriving on it....and no more blood.
Staffa and Archie are still really close and can often be seen entwined on the sofa. Luna is still more aloof except when it's crazy playtime and she whistles round the house and don't get in her way or she'll climb up your leg! At night she's a real snuggler too and cuddles in under my chin and I can't get to sleep for her purring.
This is the latest occupation, Archie sits behind you whilst your on the loo and dives for the end of the loo paper and runs away like an Andrex puppy, then the two of them go mad, trailing it all over the house!
Just love having them though and they are certainly my therapy cats. I'm still not going out much (no wonder, it's minus 5!) so I've got entertainment or cuddles all day. ;D
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You don't always need to get out of the house necessarily, just out of yourself. People can help with that, but kittens are even better!
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Lovely to see some photos of your two :Luv2:
Loo roll is the one and only thing Chester hasn't discovered yet. He's overcome with excitement when he gets near kitchen towel so I dread to think :rofl:
Can't beat cats for therapy. Purrs can heal just about anything :hug:
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:naughty: :naughty: :naughty: None of mine (thankfully) have ever bothered with the loo roll!
I bet if Luna wasn't purring & stopping you from sleeping you would be most upset! :rofl:
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Lovely to hear how they are develoing and I had to get a couple of loo rolls for Misas exclusive use. They were on a syand and he would attack yjem and sgred and pull them :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
I agree nothing like cats to entertain and dont blame you for not wanting to go out in -5 brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Looking at those pics is the best therapy anyone can get Katie. ;D ;D
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Katie :hug: it sounds as if you are heading in the right direction.
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Awww they are having so much fun ;D