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Title: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it (Sorted)
Post by: mlm on June 01, 2011, 17:05:41 PM
Hi, need some advice. There's a neighbouring kitten, about 6-8months old, and she's not very well looked after. She's quite thin, and they let her out sice she was about 8 weeks old. She's always outside, we think she might be pregnant too. What do we do? Technically she has owners, but they don't care about her. Can we report the owners and get them to have a house visit?  :thanks:
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Post by: Yvonne on June 01, 2011, 17:15:54 PM
Hi and   :welcome:  to the forum.

Thank you so much for caring for this puss cat, I am not sure under the circumstances that there would be much that a rescue could do but I hope that somebody from a rescue will come along and advise.

If you say the owners do not care about the cat – would it be possible for you to take her in?
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Post by: mlm on June 01, 2011, 17:27:01 PM
Thank you :)

I would love to have her, but we already have a kitty and one who is very protective over us and definatley best kept as a sole cat! I mean, I could take her for a little while. But I'm just not sure what to do, leave her or try and do something about it? She's so lovely, always looking for us when we are outside in the garden. x
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Post by: wharfevalley catsprotection on June 01, 2011, 19:11:16 PM
Oh it's a hard one is that and i'm sure that many of us have been in this position!

If you actually know the neighbours at all I might actually go round and just be very polite and just say that she's a lovely cat, always round at your house and ask if they mind you feeding her. I find that many people actually once asked say that they're not that bothered and offer them to you! If they don't seem too bothered I would probably say that you could offer to take her in for a short time and re-home her?

If they allow you to do this, then the first stop would be to get her to the vets to be spayed. You can then looking into re-homing her.

Of course if they say that the cat is fine and that they are looking after her etc then you have to either leave them to it or take the cat to the vets anyway  :evillaugh: but that's just me lol!
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Post by: mlm on June 01, 2011, 21:32:36 PM
No I don't know them at all, I only know they are the ones that own it because she has a tag on with her name/their details. I don't think they even know she pregnant, I mean, I'm not 100% sure. But her teets are quite big and her belly looks rounder.

It's really hard, we move in 5 weeks!
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Post by: Fire Fox on June 01, 2011, 22:17:05 PM
Sounds like your visitor might be pregnant - if she is not spayed this is very likely. Some vets will do a pregnant spay depending how advanced the pregnancy is, might sound horrible but apparently sometimes this is necessary because the mum is too small to safely carry and deliver a litter.  :( Also some Cats Protection branches offer vouchers to help towards neutering, not sure if the PDSA also help with this but sure someone who is involved in rescue will confirm. If she is pregnant and needs veterinary help with the delivery this can be very expensive.

As she has a collar is it possible her owners do care, but just don't realise what the responsibility of a young cat entails? I used to feed a neighbour's young cat which was pregnant and ravenous. They were the most lovely family so I honestly believe they were unaware that she needed so much extra food, and the risks and potential costs involved in letting a youngster breed.  :shy: Perhaps your neighbour would appreciate your concern and support? If you move in five weeks you don't have to worry so much about the owners getting the hump!
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Post by: Millies mum on June 02, 2011, 10:14:51 AM
To let a kitten out from 8 weeks old i wouldn't have thought they'll be very caring owners and to let her get pregnant the poor mite.When my neighbours had their latest females ( 3rd set of Kitty's due to not looking after the others and them running off/ rta ) they some how disappeared to a very very caring home  :shify: would this not be a good idea for this little mite before she has her babies ???
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Post by: mlm on June 02, 2011, 11:52:03 AM
Well she only has a collar as we already reported them to the RSPCA, and they went over for a house visit, this was months ago when she was first let out. She was a tiny little thing, so could have only been about 8 weeks.

Shall a take a picture and see if you guys think she might be pregnant? I wish she could come with me but I don't think Gizmo would be too happy with me!
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Post by: Millies mum on June 02, 2011, 12:31:32 PM
I said that about my first cat, Millie is very very tempremental and hates other cats so was really worried when i had my second kitty that was 3 years ago and i now have 6 little furr balls  :Crazy:
So if you were really thinking about taking her in i'm sure yours would be fine and might even enjoy the company too  :briggin:
I think we would love to see a pic wouldn't we guys  :Luv2:
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Post by: Fire Fox on June 02, 2011, 18:43:54 PM
Well she only has a collar as we already reported them to the RSPCA, and they went over for a house visit, this was months ago when she was first let out. She was a tiny little thing, so could have only been about 8 weeks.

Shall a take a picture and see if you guys think she might be pregnant? I wish she could come with me but I don't think Gizmo would be too happy with me!

If the RSPCA has a history with this family, can't they be informed the situation has deteriorated?
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Post by: mlm on June 03, 2011, 17:03:59 PM
Here she is!

Yeh maybe, but I know what the RSPCA are like, because she has a family that feed her...and dont beat her or anything they will say "there's not much we can do"
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Post by: lau200 on June 03, 2011, 17:09:27 PM
she is lovely :)
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 04, 2011, 23:21:34 PM
She is gorgeous but need to see a tummy shot to guess if she is pregnant  :hug:
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Post by: mlm on June 05, 2011, 17:54:13 PM
Will do when she next comes to visit :)
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Post by: mlm on June 06, 2011, 17:42:40 PM
Right, what do you guys think? Have lots more photos too :)
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 06, 2011, 19:42:38 PM
She may be but Misa and Sasa look like that all the time.........sigh

I think the point here is, if she is what are you going to do?
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Post by: mlm on June 06, 2011, 21:15:22 PM
She may be but Misa and Sasa look like that all the time.........sigh

I think the point here is, if she is what are you going to do?

Cry! I don't know...I need to decide soon. I called the RSPCA but they dont care. They said as she looks fine/healthy and shes not got ay physical cuts/illnesses theres nothing they can do. When I asked their advice they said "leave her, if she can't carry a litter then the owners will soon know." Nice huh?!

I want to take her to the vets to get her checkedd out, but i dont have the money for that :(
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Post by: Fire Fox on June 06, 2011, 22:37:21 PM
I think it's brilliant that you care but re-reading this thread TBH I am totally confused.  :shy: In the first post you ask if there can be a home visit, but later reveal this has already happened. You also say the cat is skinny but your pictures suggest a healthy cat. You say the neighbours don't care but admit you don't know them. Some people are ill informed or just not the brightest sparks, they honestly believe queens should be allowed to have a litter before spaying and that domestic felines are semi-wild creatures needing to be outdoors. Your neighbours may need the obvious pointing out or they may have already taken their cat for a pre-natal check up. Sorry if that sounds rude it is not meant to be, I am genuinely confused. :hug:
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Post by: mlm on June 06, 2011, 22:45:18 PM
I think it's brilliant that you care but re-reading this thread TBH I am totally confused.  :shy: In the first post you ask if there can be a home visit, but later reveal this has already happened. You also say the cat is skinny but your pictures suggest a healthy cat. You say the neighbours don't care but admit you don't know them. Some people are ill informed or just not the brightest sparks, they honestly believe queens should be allowed to have a litter before spaying and that domestic felines are semi-wild creatures needing to be outdoors. Your neighbours may need the obvious pointing out or they may have already taken their cat for a pre-natal check up. Sorry if that sounds rude it is not meant to be, I am genuinely confused. :hug:

Sorrrry, I'll explain. When she was younger she was let out (about 8 weeks old) we took her in and called RSPCA, she then turns up again about a week later with a collar on. So we assume there was a home visit...or they just saw the lost posters and went and got her. I just want the RSPCA to go around and check that she isnt being further abused or anything. She's very very tiny, and is quite boney when you pick her up. Yeh I was wondering about just going over there and having a chat with them. The only other thing that worries me, is they have 4 cats at the start of the year, and this one is the last left :/

We really arent on a safe road, its REALLY busy and theres a lot of drunken students about at night (thank god im moving soon!!) Hope that clears things up?
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Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on June 07, 2011, 12:17:25 PM
I think the best thing would be to have a chat with the owners.  As you're moving, you don't need to worry too much about getting on the wrong side of them.  You could always play it innocent and approach it as though you letting them know that she had got out and you are worried with her being pregnant and everything and are concerned that she might have her kittens outdoors (I dont' know whether she is pregnant but mentioning that to the owners might clarify).  Their response should tell you a lot about whether or not they care.  If they don't seem to care or act like you are sticking your nose in where it's not wanted, then you will have to decide whether you can do anything for her (like offering to take her in) or whether you are going to have to just trust that they will take care of her.
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Post by: mlm on June 21, 2011, 21:48:53 PM
UPDATE-

Went to the owners last time she came into the house....it was a young boy, and when I told him she's always coming into the flat and she shouldn't be outside, he confirmed she was pregnant and, I quote, "we cant keep her inside because if she has them upstairs its going to be a problem"

HOW ABOUT YOU NEUTER YOUR PET BEFORE LETTING HER OUTSIDE THEN?????

Makes me so angry, so....what shall I do now? We move next week....
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 21, 2011, 23:16:38 PM
This is so sad and she needs to be taken in by someone who cares.
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Post by: Fire Fox on June 22, 2011, 05:18:33 AM
 :'( I can't promise it will work but I'd report that comment to the RSPCA in writing (e-mail so there is a paper trail and cannot pretend it never happened) especially now you know for sure she is pregnant. Owners are supposed to provide suitable shelter under the five freedoms. Otherwise catnap her before she drops the kittens, do you have a spare room?
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Post by: mlm on June 22, 2011, 17:41:12 PM
We're moving into a smaller place next week, with no spare room :( I really have no clue what to do now.
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 22, 2011, 19:00:25 PM
This needs to move into Cats needing homes urgent and have scanned the thread and cant see what area you are in and it needs to go in the title.

I will retitle this and move it but you need to add into the new title the area on the first and last post.
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Post by: lillylau on June 22, 2011, 19:08:05 PM
If she is in the north east we would take her in i have the room till she can be rehomed
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 22, 2011, 19:09:59 PM
Please can you contact mlm urgently, cos dont know where this cat is.
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Post by: mlm on June 22, 2011, 19:12:47 PM
Sorry guys - Im in Southampton. x
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Post by: poppycat on June 23, 2011, 10:15:22 AM
I can take her in.  She looks just like my cat who I had to have PTS last week. 

I can come and pick her up.  Had just registered with Battersea to become a fosterer, but they don't actually have any cats that need fostering. So rattling around here with fully equipped cat hotel facilities but no cat !

Have never done any rescue or re-homing, so need a bit of advice about the legalities of 'taking' someone's cat. 
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Post by: CatGirl on June 23, 2011, 12:31:23 PM
Hi poppycat,you sound perfect to have this poor little cat,i was just going to ask where she is,then read she's in Southampton. WHY DON'T PEOPLE GET THEIR CATS NEUTERED/SPAYED? >:(
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 23, 2011, 12:46:22 PM
From everything we have been told by mlm, this cat needs to be disappered asap now.

 its not legal but as RSPCA will not help and the family are deliberately locking the cat out because they have not neutered, she is about to have kittens and they dont want her having them in the house, there does not seem any alternative.

They lock her out all day.........night?.............and am sure she could be a rta waiting to happen  ;) ;)

Please contact mlm because she is the key to saving this cat as it comes to her for food.

If you would be taking her completely out of the area this would be very good but Mlm is moving next week I believe.

Poppycat I am so sorry for your loss but if you could help this little cat it would be wonderful.  :hug: :hug: :hug:

I am sure our rescue members like Angie, Lesley etc will give advise about kittening .
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Post by: poppycat on June 23, 2011, 13:30:23 PM
I can come and collect her at any time - only about 1 hour away and am currently home all day.

I just want to be certain that she's definitely unwanted by her owners as I would hate for the cat to be taken away from her home and people she's attached to.

MLM could you get in touch please.

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Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on June 23, 2011, 21:21:34 PM
I can come and collect her at any time - only about 1 hour away and am currently home all day.

I just want to be certain that she's definitely unwanted by her owners as I would hate for the cat to be taken away from her home and people she's attached to.

MLM could you get in touch please.

OOOO that's wonderful Poppycat - I hope MLM contacts you tonight. all bits crossed here.
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Post by: poppycat on June 24, 2011, 21:14:28 PM
Hi mlm

Pls update us on the pregnant cat.  I'm still happy to have her.  Bit concerned about her as I know you're moving soon.

Thanks
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Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 16:42:27 PM
Hi ladies - so so sorry I havent been on here. Been horredously ill the last few days :( poppycat - will contact you now. x
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 25, 2011, 17:05:03 PM
Not good timing and hope you are feeling much better now  :hug: :hug:
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Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 17:06:25 PM
Oh my god....I haven't seen her in a few days cus I've been in bed. Errrmm....

She's not pregnant anymore!!!!

She's completely slimmed down, but her teats are still up. Im confused. She was HUGE on wednesday. Theres no shaven patch for surgery, so no abortion....

So it looks like she's had them, and abandoned them because she wasnt allowed to nest????
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 25, 2011, 17:08:27 PM
She may be feeding them somewhere she has hidden them or could they be in the house?

She will need loads of food id she is feeding them
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Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 17:19:44 PM
Possibly - I'll check the garden in a min. The odd thing is that she didnt look ready to pop and as far as i can tell she's not leaking milk or anything.

Jesus...if she's had them in the house (unlikely because they are uncaring  :censored:) then they have let her out just to roam??! She could get pregnant again!
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Post by: poppycat on June 25, 2011, 17:52:57 PM
Hi mlm

Just got your message - will text you, but thought would be good to keep the discussion public in light of latest developments and get others, more experienced input.

Everyone - what on earth do we do now ????? !!!!!     If we find these kittens I can come and get them all, but I can't take mum without knowing definitely if there's a hidden litter somewhere. 

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Post by: Dawn F on June 25, 2011, 17:56:01 PM
no poppycat you are right taking mum on her own isn't really and option, seems given that mlm is moving this week the situation isn't going to be easily resolved
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Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 17:59:19 PM
Arghh...what do I do? I could pop round to the house again and say that she's coming in the house again. And then I might be able to get some info?

From what I can see there's nothing in the garden.

What shall I do now?
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 25, 2011, 18:01:29 PM
Yes I think going round there is the best idea,,,,,,,,,,,,and if no info is forthcoming ask point blank what happened to the kittens.

Good luck  :hug:
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Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 18:06:28 PM
Right, sorry for the ramble below where I repeat the word "again", being stuck in the house over the last 3 days has driven me slightly insane.

I'll get her to come over to me tomorrow, and take her over. I'll just innocently say, "Ohhh, wasn't she pregnant, has she had the kittens?"
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Post by: poppycat on June 25, 2011, 18:08:48 PM
How about following the cat ..... from what you said before, they wouldn't have let her have the kittens indoor, so if they are outside somewhere mum should lead you to her babies.

Do you know who is feeding her ?
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Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 18:16:08 PM
How about following the cat ..... from what you said before, they wouldn't have let her have the kittens indoor, so if they are outside somewhere mum should lead you to her babies.

Do you know who is feeding her ?

Yeh... me! I know its bad, but before she was pregnant she was a waif of a kitty. Now theres no kittens in her, you can see her little ribs :( I could follow her, but she gets so excited everytime I open the door that she just stays around. She won't walk off unless I close the door on her.

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Post by: poppycat on June 25, 2011, 18:21:29 PM
If you cornered her and kept her in, then sooner or later she'll be desperate to get out to get back to the kittens, which is when you could follow her.  If she's none too fussed, then I would assume those kittens are no more.  Doesn't sound like her owners will be looking after them.
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Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 18:41:03 PM
If you cornered her and kept her in, then sooner or later she'll be desperate to get out to get back to the kittens, which is when you could follow her.  If she's none too fussed, then I would assume those kittens are no more.  Doesn't sound like her owners will be looking after them.

Very true. I only have three days to get this all sorted now though :/
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Post by: poppycat on June 25, 2011, 19:24:24 PM
It's a tight time scale but do-able if we get moving asap.

How about popping round to the owners tonight and very friendily saying that you noticed their cat isn't pregnant anymore and that you've got a friend who's interested in taking a kitten or two and could you have a quick look at them ?  That way you might get some info, or at least establish whether they are in the house or not. 

I would be a bit wary about saying that the cat's come round to you again as they might take it as being interfering and take it out on the cat.  If she's being neglected and the kittens have been 'disposed off' then we can go ahead and remove her asap. 

Where does she normally spend the nights ?
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Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 19:36:52 PM
It's a tight time scale but do-able if we get moving asap.

How about popping round to the owners tonight and very friendily saying that you noticed their cat isn't pregnant anymore and that you've got a friend who's interested in taking a kitten or two and could you have a quick look at them ?  That way you might get some info, or at least establish whether they are in the house or not. 

I would be a bit wary about saying that the cat's come round to you again as they might take it as being interfering and take it out on the cat.  If she's being neglected and the kittens have been 'disposed off' then we can go ahead and remove her asap. 

Where does she normally spend the nights ?

Ohh god plan! Will go do that in a sec. Ok...so what if she has had the kittens? We'll just have to leave her there?

As far as I know, outside. My kitty will hear her bell and run at the window being all macho  :rofl:
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Post by: poppycat on June 25, 2011, 19:45:41 PM
If they have the kittens just be really friendly and say you'll take them all as you can get them all re-homed through friends and as you're moving it will be easier for them to do the viewings at your new place, but will take them now so they have a chance to settle with you before they are moved again.

You can then kidnap mum when she next comes for food.  In the meanwhile I'll be on stand by to come and pick them all up.
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Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 19:49:36 PM
If they have the kittens just be really friendly and say you'll take them all as you can get them all re-homed through friends and as you're moving it will be easier for them to do the viewings at your new place, but will take them now so they have a chance to settle with you before they are moved again.

You can then kidnap mum when she next comes for food.  In the meanwhile I'll be on stand by to come and pick them all up.

Right, they aren't in as far as im aware. No answer! So will go over tomorrow morning. What if they say no?
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Post by: poppycat on June 25, 2011, 19:58:58 PM
Not sure what to do if they say no.  I suspect that the kittens aren't there.  Keep a check on where mum is tonight as they are unlikely to throw her out and keep the kittens alone as mum would presumably look after them throughout the night. 

Are they an approachable family or are they a bit shirty ?

I'm a bit torn as to whether to kidnap mum on her own.  The kittens if there are any will have no chance without her.  Even with her and if you're gone it doesn't sound like she's being fed enough to be able to give them proper nutrition, so they may perish anyway.  I'm almost tempted to try and save her at least regardless. 

Would be interesting to see what other people think.
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Post by: poppycat on June 25, 2011, 20:01:15 PM
If you hear her bell tonight, follow her as she may lead you to the kittens if they are all out somewhere.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 20:08:46 PM
Not sure what to do if they say no.  I suspect that the kittens aren't there.  Keep a check on where mum is tonight as they are unlikely to throw her out and keep the kittens alone as mum would presumably look after them throughout the night. 

Are they an approachable family or are they a bit shirty ?

I'm a bit torn as to whether to kidnap mum on her own.  The kittens if there are any will have no chance without her.  Even with her and if you're gone it doesn't sound like she's being fed enough to be able to give them proper nutrition, so they may perish anyway.  I'm almost tempted to try and save her at least regardless. 

Would be interesting to see what other people think.

Well when I spoke to the boy he was a bit shirty with me, but at the same time not caring about her. I know what you mean, I'm not even convinced they lived...as she is so tiny to be going through labour. And like you said, she wasn't been fed enough. So I doubt they have changed their attitude.

Yeh, will keep Gizmo on guard!
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 25, 2011, 20:30:15 PM
Having watched Angies mothers with kittens, the kittens feed almost none stop to start with, mothers do abandon kittens if they think they are dying. so if the mother has been around for an hour or more something has happened to the kittens I think.

Sounds like she definately needs a new home and a vet check to make sure she is OK after the birth but you are the only one on the spot mlm to watch and see what happens and make the decision with poppy to what to do.
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Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 20:46:20 PM
Having watched Angies mothers with kittens, the kittens feed almost none stop to start with, mothers do abandon kittens if they think they are dying. so if the mother has been around for an hour or more something has happened to the kittens I think.

Sounds like she definately needs a new home and a vet check to make sure she is OK after the birth but you are the only one on the spot mlm to watch and see what happens and make the decision with poppy to what to do.

hmm, thats what i thought. When we went and got Gizmo, the breeders other Queen had just had a litter, and we had to walk through the living room to go see the Dad (a hulk of a Ragdoll), and she fed the kittens the whole time we were there, for a good few hours!!!

She was with us today for about an hour, I gave her some food and tried to check her out as best I could.

Yeh will try go find her now. I mean, this is the worrying thing. I can go outside, call her, and she'll be there in seconds. So she's either never ever in...or I'm just lucky!

Poppy - what do you want to do?
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 25, 2011, 20:53:13 PM
I have no experience of new cat mums and their habits so really don't know how they behave.  Strikes me as being highly odd that any new animal however would abandon their young for such long periods of time.  I can understand her coming for a quick feed, but most wild and domesticated animals natural instinct would be to get back to their young asap. 

I think if she's hanging around for that length of time then she's almost definitely alone.  It would be good to try and find out for definite though.  Perhaps wait and watch as planned tonight to see if she leads you any where ?
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 25, 2011, 21:02:10 PM
I have no experience of new cat mums and their habits so really don't know how they behave.  Strikes me as being highly odd that any new animal however would abandon their young for such long periods of time.  I can understand her coming for a quick feed, but most wild and domesticated animals natural instinct would be to get back to their young asap. 

I think if she's hanging around for that length of time then she's almost definitely alone.  It would be good to try and find out for definite though.  Perhaps wait and watch as planned tonight to see if she leads you any where ?

Will do. I'll pop some more food out there now, my window (i live on the ground floor) is open so ill hear her. Or Mr. Macho will hear her first!
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 25, 2011, 22:46:36 PM
Any sign of her or her babies ?
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 26, 2011, 10:15:25 AM
She was around last night, bt no sign of kittens!
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Dawn F on June 26, 2011, 13:10:13 PM
if she had kittens it sounds like she doesn't any more  :(
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 26, 2011, 14:13:15 PM
She's been with me about 2 hours now. Absolutley STARVING. She scoffed down a whole bowl of food in seconds! She's completely calm, the door is shut and she's just chilling in the house. From what I know of new mothers, they dont leave the young for very long...and cats are very very mothery. So yep, looks like she's lost them or just abandoned them. She's too young poor thing.

Anyway - bit of an update - poppycat is coming to get her later! So happy, means she gets a great home and I don't have to panic about her when I move.  ;D
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on June 26, 2011, 16:38:38 PM
YAY good news for this little love - feel sad about her babies  :(
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: moira on June 26, 2011, 16:52:18 PM
mlm are you absolutely sure she has no living kittens hidden away? Domestic mum cats dont normally leave newborns for very long, its true, but this poor little girl has been chucked out to have her kittens like a feral cat, and like a feral cat she hasn't had the luxury of someone coming to her and placing bowls of food in front of her. She has had to leave the kittens to find food for herself. She will be ravenously hungry if she is feeding kittens, I am currently fostering a mum and 4 newborns and mine eats like a horse even though she came to me in good condition. Its wonderful that you have rescued her but I just hate to think of her kittens starving to death somewhere. Have you asked the 'owners' if she has given birth yet? Such a pity you couldn't have got her before she gave birth.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: LesleyW on June 26, 2011, 17:25:23 PM
Have a good look at her nipples, if she is feeding she will show signs - fur will be "sucked" (will look like it has been licked and dried) and her nipples will be raised.    It may not be the case with all of then, they may not all produce milk, it is usually the ones near the back with my mums if they have small litters.


I would have thought if she has kittens she will get restless at some point to be with them.




Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 26, 2011, 17:37:52 PM
Im 95% sure. In all honesty, I hate to say it...but if shes had them outside and left them alone at all...well. We live in the city centre of the most rat infested city in the UK! We have more than London apparently. So, I hate to say it, even if she has had them outside, I don't think they would be around now.

We decided it would be a better idea to at least save her.

Anyway, poppycat has just come to collect her :) And I'm sure she'll keep us all updated on her progress.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Rafflesmoore on June 26, 2011, 18:09:00 PM
Hello

Did the boy when you asked him answer you as to whether she had kittens or not because you don't say, other than him being shirty.

Also, have you checked the area your flat is in since she appears very quickly when called. She may have given birth close to you because she can rely on food.

I hate to think of her being taken away and leaving her kittens to their fate, if she has them.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 26, 2011, 23:07:31 PM
Update on Bella, the pregnant cat.

I picked her up at 5.30 today and we started heading home. Unfortunately 5-10mins I realised that she was not quite right - started panting heavily. Another 5-10 mins later she had started drooling badly and then diarrohea.  I pulled over to try and get her to drink but she was just struggling to breathe.  Kept driving, hoping she's calm down.  By now I had let her out the carrier and had the windows open as much as poss to try and get her some air, but she was just collapsed panting and drooling in the footwell. 

It was obvious she needed emergency vet assistance so with mlm's help turned back and drove like mad to a vet in Lymington.  She's been admitted.  Needed oxygen and fluids to stabilise her - took about 15 mins to calm her down, but thankfully by the time I left she seemed stable and breathing normally.   They've kept her in for observation and recuperation and are doing bloods etc tomorrow. 

They were / are confused about the pregnancy issue.  On admission they said her abdomen was swollen and thought it might be a mass rather than live (or dead kittens) as her teets didn't match those of a pregnant cat / or one who had given birth recently.  I agreed to pay for an X-ray etc and it came back that it was just loads of food in there !! .....bones as well so may be she had been snacking on mice or rats.

Anyway upshot is, hopefully she is going to be fine health wise.   However on-going I think the original plan of me taking her will have to be abandoned as there's a risk of the same thing happening again on  the journey.  The vets are really nice and are going to spk to Lymington cat rescue to see if they can re-home her.  I've agreed to pay for all her care including spaying. 

Problem is all the rescues are full - the vets already have 6 strays they can't re-home.   So can any one help with re-homing this lovely kitty.  There won't be any homing charge, but the home has to be really nearby as even with sedation transporting her is going to be risky.

Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ on June 26, 2011, 23:14:35 PM
How scary  :'( but good that you have been able to get to the bottom of the pregnancy issue.

Poor little thing, I hope she is better by the morning *fingers crossed*

Well done guys for saving her and your quick action today  :hug:
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: moira on June 26, 2011, 23:21:00 PM
OMG, how traumatic for you. Bella is so lucky that you rescued her. Glad the kitten issue is resolved. It did seem a little strange to me. Have you cross posted on Catchat? You could also try www.animallifelineuk.org to appeal for rescue back up.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on June 26, 2011, 23:33:49 PM
The poor baby :care: I have to admit I was worried in case there were kittens out there somewhere so pleased that aspect has a happy ending  :hug:

Good job you realised how serious it was and got her to the vets in time  :hug:
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: JackSpratt on June 26, 2011, 23:43:42 PM
poppycat, that's really generous of you. Hoping the little girl is OK in the morning - where is she again?
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 27, 2011, 00:07:12 AM
My goodness the poor little girl and sounds like she had been starving just as you thought mlm.

I do hope she will be Ok and can get a home or rescue place.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 27, 2011, 08:25:11 AM
Hi All


She is in Lymington or nearby ( I think ..... I was in such a panic I don't actually know where I was !! ) in Hampshire.  The vets mentioned Lymington Cat and Kitten rescue in Lymington.

Having had a sleep on it and thinking about things more rationally, I'm not sure that the rescue was in the best interests of Bella.  Without a doubt her owners don't seem like the most responsible but may be Bella is just a cat that prefers being out.  Like a lot of cats she could also appear to be absolutely ravenous literally 30 mins after scoffing their faces.  Every cat I've had, as soon as someone new came in through the door would put on a 'poor me' begging face and act like they haven't been fed for weeks. 

We also get half a dozen neighbouring cats visiting and begging for food, some of whom I have fed on occasions and they can wolf down a couple of pouches in one sitting.  These cats however are definitely not being neglected and some are more than rotund.

Bella didn't strike me as being particularly scrawny.  She's only 8 months old and so seemed normal for her size.  However mlm has been feeding her, so it's difficult to know how much food she was getting from her actual owners and how much from mlm.  Her stomach was so swollen and hard the vet initially thought she may even have a cancerous lymphoma if she had leukaemia.     Thankfully turned out she is just a greedy guts !!

I should get an update on her later.  Hopefully she'll have settled and all her tests will come back normal.  In which case in a day or so when she's a bit more recovered she'll be spayed, chipped, vaccinated etc ready for re-homing.   Now the immediate task is to find her somewhere nice to live locally.  I'm 2 hours away and there is no way I want to subject the poor thing to the same trauma by trying to bring her up again with me.

Any help in re-homing will be greatly appreciated. 

Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Janeyk on June 27, 2011, 13:24:33 PM
Can this be moved out of urgent now?  :thanks:
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 27, 2011, 13:34:22 PM
I think this is still urgent cos needs a home fast
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 27, 2011, 14:28:45 PM
This is still urgent.  The vets will only keep her for a few days and then she's homeless.

Just had an update from the vet, she's stable but very quiet.  They think that might be because they've got a few dogs in.  Poor thing is probably really bewildered.  In hindsight, should really just have arranged to get her checked over somewhere local to where she lived and then left her in her familiar surroundings if all was in order. 

This was my first rescue and the inexperience shows.  I've not done her any favours by trying to help and feel terrible about the trauma she's been put through.  She is going to be so freaked going back in a carrier and into a car again, that I really don't know what on earth to do.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Dawn F on June 27, 2011, 14:36:02 PM
you were only trying to help, lots of cats hate cars and the heat probably didn't help
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: moira on June 27, 2011, 16:44:04 PM
Don't beat yourself up, Poppycat. We all wish we had hindsight. Look, she was clearly needing veterinary help and she is now getting it, thank's to you. Fingers crossed she gets rescue backup/foster place/adoptive home soon.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on June 27, 2011, 16:57:49 PM
Don't beat yourself up, Poppycat. We all wish we had hindsight. Look, she was clearly needing veterinary help and she is now getting it, thank's to you. Fingers crossed she gets rescue backup/foster place/adoptive home soon.

Can only echo this  :hug:
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 27, 2011, 20:47:56 PM
Feeling a bit like I'm being blamed here :/
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on June 27, 2011, 21:10:50 PM
Feeling a bit like I'm being blamed here :/

Not at all  :hug: I certainly don't read that from any of the posts either :hug: You were worried about her and it seemed rightly so given how swollen her abdomen was from the sounds of things. It's just a shame it hasn't worked out, especially as you're moving so soon so can't even continue to feed her if she has to go back  :(
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: moira on June 27, 2011, 21:25:07 PM
mlm,  whether or not things were as bad for Bella as we first thought (I can't know that) at the end of the day Bella is now
receiving vet care, will get speyed and chipped and will go to people who will really care about her. That's what matters. Rescues dont always go to plan but at the end of the day you cared enough about her when her 'owners' clearly did not to try to make a difference in her life. Just taking her out of the breeding cycle will save so much misery in the long term. I don't think anyone should be blaming anyone here.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 27, 2011, 21:27:03 PM
mlm please don't think that.  You were trying to do the best for her based on what you observed daily.  Bella's situation was not ideal where she was and something needed to be done.  It's nobody's fault that this has turned out this way.  She is still in a safe place and although not ideal at least we know she is being fed and looked after.  I just wish there was some better way of helping cats like her.  If the local shelters weren't over run then we wouldn't have had to move her so far.

Her extreme reactions were just fright - she didn't know me.  Fear of being trapped in the carrier, fear of the car and all the associated noise. The hot weather didn't help either.  Neither of us could have foreseen the reaction.  I've never had a cat that's ever reacted like that.  They've all grumbled and moaned pitifully but generally were reassured that they were safe because they were with someone they knew loved them.

My frustration is with the whole situation. None of us should have to sort this out and no cats or other animals should be being neglected and abused.  You did what you thought was the right thing.  I did what I thought was the right thing.  I'm just reflecting on the fact that sometimes we have to accept that we can't always resolve the situation to how we would like and maybe sometimes lesser interventions are better, particularly in view of the fact that these situations are never ending and will keep re-occurring.  It will only be a matter of time before Bella's owners get a new cat and the cycle will continue but there may not be any one there to help or care. 
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 27, 2011, 22:09:39 PM
You are definately not being blamed mlm, why do you think this?   :hug: :hug:

Bella has been saved from a situation that may have killed her and now she just needs a home so part way there.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: JackSpratt on June 27, 2011, 22:26:26 PM
mlm, noone's to blame except the people that should've been caring for this little girl.

poppycat, one of my cats once broke out of a cat carrier and had a full on panic attack in the car; it was terrifying. I was in the passenger seat and he broke out of it while it was on my knee and bolted to the parcel shelf where he sat hyperventilating. Thankfully we were really close to the vets so my friend parked up and I coaxed him back to me. He was so stressed out, so I can only imagine how this little girl felt with an unfamiliar person in a moving vehicle on a hot day....

I'm glad she's receiving the treatment she needs and well done to the both of you for helping her.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 27, 2011, 22:40:27 PM
Thanks everyone for being so supportive and mlm I'm sorry if you felt I was blaming you. That really wasn't intended. 

I am still really shook up having witnessed Bella's reaction.  I thought she would die in the car or even worse start fitting and have permanent brain damage.  Knowing that I'd put her in that situation was really upsetting even though I know I was only trying to help her.  I feel so responsible for her now and want to make sure she's happy eventually.  Problem is I don't know how I can get her safely to me now and so that's why I'm thinking she might have been better of staying in familiar surroundings roaming freely rather than being shut up in some pen, assuming I can even find a local rescue home to take her.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 27, 2011, 22:54:18 PM
I dont know how far you live from where she is poppy but is there any chance that she can be moved short distances at a time by Purrs people.......or....I know its not normal and many vets do not approve but Liz uses sedative tabs when moving some of hers...............cant remember what they are called but she will tell you.

The current vet may agree this is an option in order to get her from A to B.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Liz on June 27, 2011, 23:13:45 PM
I get ACP tablets from the vet for use with my ferals, domestics and pedigree and did use them to move the clan 5 years ago - we crushed them added to a saucer of Tuna in brine and 30 mins later cat outcold and makes the journey easier for all round, quiet cat, better focus for driving etc

Our vets prescribed the tablets and our current vet lets us have them for the ferals when they need to have an op, or injections as the trauma is lessened cat goes to sleep at home and wakes up at home missing the nasty human handling

We have had no adverse effects on any of the ferals or any other cat or dog we have used them on and always under Vets guidance
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 27, 2011, 23:15:28 PM
I asked the vet yesterday about a sedative and she said that a pre-med was an option.  However they are not without their risks and she will also be still re-covering post-operatively from her spaying, so could cause more complications. 

Her panic attack started very soon and if it was just a short journey I think that it could be ok. However the vets she's at now is in the opposite direction to where I live, adding on another half hour to the journey .  The total journey will now be closer to 2 hours and even with sedation I think too risky. 

Best option for her really is to try and re-home her very near to where she is now.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 27, 2011, 23:19:00 PM
Thanks for the info Liz - I'll ask the vet about those. 
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Liz on June 27, 2011, 23:20:02 PM
Anther option is Zylkene tablet split and popped on to her wet food - harmless tablet but takes the edge of them - I use them on my ferals to, also some rescue remedy in her water bowl and Some Feliway spray in the cat box and last resort some catnip anything to calm them - we also cover the box with a towel so its dark makes the ferals feel safe

If I can offer any other advice feel free to PM me - we moved 37 cats 150 miles so have some experience ;D
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 27, 2011, 23:25:17 PM
I ordered some Feliway earlier today.  Wished I'd had it yesterday.  Liz your experiences have given me a bit more encouragement that I might perhaps be able to get her up here.  Am even thinking of having a little mini break in the New Forest for a few days with her so she can get to know me before driving up !!  This is turning in to a very expensive cat rescue !!
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Liz on June 27, 2011, 23:33:59 PM
We have several Bakers dozens and 3 dogs and its never cheap = our June vets bills were £1000 thanks to a feral being hit by a car and my big dogs Sky and Sunny standing on Mist Puppy's back legs b y accident - all recovered now thankfully OH works away from home to keep me and the Clan :rofl:
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 27, 2011, 23:47:19 PM
Wow that's dedication.  I really take my hat off to all those of you actively involved in rescue.  As soon as I've got the Bella situation sorted I shall turn my attention to trying to help rescues with re-homing.  I don't think I can be emotionally detached enough to do rescue work - I will just be constantly upset and of no use.  I'd like to concentrate on fund raising and re-homing. Really glad I found this forum as will be incredibly useful getting advice.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Liz on June 28, 2011, 11:00:40 AM
Just so you know my family is feral in majority with some tamed down poppets, some nearly normal doestics and a rescue ragdoll, the dogs are following in very big footsteps of Breeze my late deaf Border Collie and his ears the late great Miss Jazz Jack Russell she helped bring up Sky and Sunny as puppies before setting off for the bridge and Mistral puppy was a present from my late father he put a deposit down just before he died and pup wan't even born - my Oh arranged for him to become ours - All are pedigree Border Collies known as Astra Zephyr Sky who is 4 and black and white, Ravenhill Blazing Sunshine or Sunny is a red tricolour and finally my split face Blue Merle baby Astra Zephyr Mistral or Mist No!

We have just raised £2000 by doing a sponsered walk with the dogs for Perth CP our old branch its as easy route for us 300 miles driving walk 5km then come home round up the cats and get OH to the airport on time :rofl:

Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Dawn F on June 28, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
there are companies that move animals for you - not sure if its an option you would consider
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 28, 2011, 18:05:27 PM
I did have a look at some animal ambulances, but none of them seemed any thing other than a taxi service.  She's going to need full resuc facilities !!

........checked on her today and she's now been put on antibiotics as she's still got a temperature. The vets not sure exactly where the infection is and why. She's got herself in a right old state, poor thing.  Odd because she seemed like a really confident cat when I met her.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 28, 2011, 18:08:12 PM
 :hug:

I know :) I just feel bad that shes in such a state, and that she has to stay in a cage at the vets when shes used to being out. Im really angry at the neighbours...shes in worse state than we thought. Wish that I could have her, it would have been a lot more simple!
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Dawn F on June 28, 2011, 18:11:38 PM
it does seem like a shame, you sound like a person who could give her a great life

when I collected my bengal (who are known for being rather highly strung) she went nuts in the car and manged to turn her claws into bloody stumps trying to escape during our 1 hour journey, it was horrific and I honestly thought I'd damaged her beyond repair of course I hadn't and she settled down very quickly, she just didn't like the basket and still doesn't

anyway whatever you decide I'm sure it will be in her best interest

mlm you only did what you thought was best - has she been missed yet?
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 28, 2011, 18:30:07 PM
Dont think so, havent heard them even call her name and I've been out in the garden for the last few days doing mountains of washing!

My boy loves being in the cat basket - he goes to sleep and chrips :) He'll go to sleep in it even if ive just left it on the floor. He is half ragdoll though, so he's got a very chilled personality!

I wonder if Bella is half something, and maybe thats why she freaked a bit (as well as it being a new situation) as to me her ears and face are quite pointed.

Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 28, 2011, 18:33:52 PM
mlm I feel bad too but actually you and I both did her a favour.  Left where she was and with you gone tomorrow god knows what would have happened.  Her infection is not necessarily related to her stress and could have flared up at any time soon. Doubt her owners would have done anything.  Without a doubt she would also have got knocked up sooner or later and then both her and future lives would be miserable. 

Also being left out in winter she would have perished. 

Let's just concentrate on being positive and sending her good vibes. She seemed like a fighter - hopefully she'll pull through soon.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 28, 2011, 18:40:47 PM
Yeh, in the long run it was the best idea. Well, another thing...when she was a kitten (8 weeks ish) and i found her outside, thoose people had 4 cats.

Now they have none, so the other 3 were either run over or got ill and they didnt care  :(
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 28, 2011, 18:46:40 PM
So there you are, proof positive that we've done the right thing, even though she may not be appreciating it at the moment. 
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Dawn F on June 28, 2011, 18:50:01 PM
exactly lets hope they've given up on the whole cat idea
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on June 28, 2011, 18:55:12 PM
Well if poppy hadnt of taken her - heaven knows what would of happened to her - poor little girl. At lease she is getting treatment. Sending her get well soon vibes xxxx
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 28, 2011, 19:26:46 PM
Very true, and thank you for paying for all her bills too! I wont have internet from tomorrow until the 7th July - so poppycat, can you let me know updates via text please? :thanks:
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on June 28, 2011, 20:12:14 PM
Have as good move mlm  :hug: :hug:

Sending lots of get well vibes for bella  :hug: :hug:

You two have saved her life, now she needs to get better and be homed. Could be that she was feeling very ill in the car and that panicked her.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 28, 2011, 20:34:16 PM
Gill, thats very true. As she was getting quite ansy just before poppycat arrived. Just glad shes getting the care she deserves!

Just went outside for more washing and to say goodbye to another neighbouring cat (very well loved, she has a lil Hitler 'taste and a beautiful coat!) and Bella's (previous) owners are out having a BBQ. Only ever met one of them, the boy, but not the whole family. Ahem. They are all screaming and swearing at each other and dont exactly seem like they look after themseleves well, let alone an animal!
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 28, 2011, 21:35:05 PM
I'm really glad we moved her.  Sounds like they are one of those awful shameless families.  I don't understand why they even get animals.

Good luck with your move.  I have some exams so may not post much myself in the next few days but will check on Bella daily and text you as soon as there's any news.

Wish money could fix everything !!   Paying her bills is the least of the problems !   If there is no option but to bring her up might have to rope you in as her carer for the drive up.  She knows and trusts you so would be more relaxed, particularly if she didn't have to go in the carrier again.   
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 28, 2011, 21:50:24 PM
I'm really glad we moved her.  Sounds like they are one of those awful shameless families.  I don't understand why they even get animals.

Good luck with your move.  I have some exams so may not post much myself in the next few days but will check on Bella daily and text you as soon as there's any news.

Wish money could fix everything !!   Paying her bills is the least of the problems !   If there is no option but to bring her up might have to rope you in as her carer for the drive up.  She knows and trusts you so would be more relaxed, particularly if she didn't have to go in the carrier again.

Thanks, and good luck with the exams. Yeh thats very true - sundays are best for me as i work the rest of the week mainly. :)
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Dawn F on June 29, 2011, 08:28:55 AM
that sounds like a good idea at least she does trust mlm and poppycat can concentrate on the road!
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 29, 2011, 11:21:46 AM
Good news - her temp is lower and she seems perkier.  Keeping her under obs still though. 

Unfortunately they haven't been able to find her a home yet still though.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: souffle on June 29, 2011, 12:52:21 PM
You've done a great job getting her out of there and should be proud of yourselves. Hope she is soon better.
I have moved a cat half way across Britain when we moved house and I took the risk of sedation as there was no other option. If you homed her nearbye her previous home she may well just try and find her way back. I would risk the journey with a sedative. I know our cat slept all the way with his and it was about 7 hours. I don't think you should try it with her loose even with a carer in case she panics though. How about a dog cage? That is what we moved ours in. It will be worth the meds to get her to your place safely I think.
Our cats were always very dopey after their spays and just lay in the car so how about you collect her after the spay and make the journey then while she is still sleepy?
I would love to see her homed with you xx
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Dawn F on June 29, 2011, 12:56:38 PM
If you homed her nearbye her previous home she may well just try and find her way back.

that is a good point
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on June 29, 2011, 13:02:18 PM
Could someone sit with her in the back - talking to her to try to keep her calm.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: poppycat on June 30, 2011, 13:42:57 PM


Good news about Bella - she's 100% well.  Is having her spaying this afternoon AND she she's found a home.   The vets have a client who's just lost her cat and was looking for another one............yay !!!

The vets have been fantastic so I'm going to give them a plug here http://www.seadownvets.co.uk/   ........pls use them if you're in the Hampshire region.  They didn't even want me to pay for anything as it's coming out of their welfare fund http://www.seadownvets.co.uk/community.   I'm going to give them a donation equivalent to what her treatment would have cost so they can continue helping others.

So happy for her and great that she doesn't have to suffer a long car journey.  Also now I can take on some fosters and help others.  Battersea wouldn't have let me foster with another cat here.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Dawn F on June 30, 2011, 13:46:04 PM
that is great news!  don't know how far you are from Lesley (she is Gosport I think)
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Jiji on June 30, 2011, 13:47:17 PM
Really pleased this has all turned out so well for this girl, well done to all  ;D
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on June 30, 2011, 13:56:27 PM
That's great news  ;D You and mlm have changed her life  :) What a lovely vets too  :)

Good luck with the fostering, I do hope you'll update us on how you're getting on with it all  ;D
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: moira on June 30, 2011, 14:01:30 PM
Fanatastic news. Wish all vets were like that.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: JackSpratt on June 30, 2011, 14:36:43 PM
What a wonderful vets!! And great news this little lady has a home lined up.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it
Post by: mlm on June 30, 2011, 19:42:24 PM
Ahhh im so happy!!!! Im pinching internet at the moment (shhhh.... :) ) thats brought a tear to my eye. Im so so happy they have helped her, and how lucky were we to find such amazing vets?!!
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it (Sorted)
Post by: Janeyk on June 30, 2011, 21:49:15 PM
 ;D Great news, will move this now,  hope that all goes well.
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it (Sorted)
Post by: poppycat on June 30, 2011, 22:26:47 PM
Yes it's a really good result.... all that angst she and we went through was worth it in the end. So glad she's not with the chavvy family !!
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it (Sorted)
Post by: Gail Bengal Slave on July 01, 2011, 12:57:52 PM
SUPER news for this little girl  :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: Pregnant young cat needs someone to help it (Sorted)
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 01, 2011, 14:04:11 PM
What a brilliant result for Bella and you and mlm have done so well to save this little girls life  ;D ;D