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Cat Rescue & Rehoming => Cat/s Needing Homes => Sorted/ Unknown outcomes => Topic started by: JackSpratt on November 23, 2009, 20:38:10 PM
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Nicky emailed me about a disabled kitten, who needs serious 24/7 care. She's apparently a loving, friendly girl but needs help with toileting; someone needs to help her into the litter tray every few hours or she misses.
She's a long haired girl and am waiting for pictures.
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aww bless her :Luv2:
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Yep. She's only young - 13 weeks. Her name's Pumpkin and they aren't sure if there was an accident when she was with her mum or if someone's done the damage to her.
It's a difficult situation, because without the right person to care for her Pumpkin can't really be homed. If someone wasn't there to help her with toileting then she might suffer with severe urine burns.
I guess what I'm saying is, I'm testing the water. Does anyone think they or anyone they know could offer Pumpkin what she needs? I've talked to Nicky about a wheel assistance and she says she thinks Pumpkin would adjust to having one. (Attached a picture so people know what I mean.)
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Positive rehoming vibes for this special little girl, I hope someone special out there can help! :Luv2: :hug:
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:( aww the poor little thing my heart goes out to her, everything crossed someone can help xx
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do they know what caused the disability? spinal damage? nerve damage? poor wee mite. thinking of her and hoping for a positive outlook for her :hug:
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this sort of case really really worries me
even if a suitable home is found for her now, home circumstances change - and if she were ever to become a stray her situation would be horrendous
she doesn't just need care 24/7, by the sound of it, but 24/7 for perhaps 15 years or more - is keeping her going really in her best interests?
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Have to agree Trigger, although an animal can be sane in mind- I dont think its fair to keep an animal this way, she wouldn't be able to do most things a "normal" cat could do and I think this would affect her standard of life. Sorry guys just my opinion :shy:
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CC, I asked for opinions - don't apologise. Both you and Trigger have been very honest. I think Nicky would agree in usual circumstances but overall Pumpkin is an affectionate and seemingly content kitten; and with regards to doing what a "normal" kitten can do - well to her this might be normal. If she's been this way since birth then her way of life will be this so she won't know any different.
Nicky wanted to see if anyone out there could cope with such a special little girl before making a solid decision, which I think is the right thing to do. Pumpkins current fosterer is caring for her well.
MKR, they don't know enough about her to know for sure what happened, unfortunately. I think that would make the decision a lot easier for Nicky.
Thanks, Janey and Bazsmum. :)
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would it be 24 hour care she needed, or can she not go to the loo unaided at all?
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She isn't incontinent and is in control of that, but her legs not working properly mean that someone needs to pop her in a litter tray every few hours for a "try" as some would put it.
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aah I thought expressing was needed - probably would still need to be someone who didn't work though
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I do agree its a very sad case, especially as she is so content :(
I think maybe this would be something that the ordinary cat lover couldn't cope with- like you say it's going to take that someone special :shy:
Maybe she would be best off with her foster as they already know what they are doing with her :)
Its a very sad case at only 13 weeks old :(
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I agree it would definitely have to be someone not working with either no other animals or perhaps one. Pumpkin will need a lot of focus and I hope there's someone out there for her, but as my partner pointed out the other day perfectly healthy cats are PTS with alarming regularity because people can't be bothered to care for them. :(
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Nicky has a fair bit of experience I presume by now and along with the vet to be able to assess her quality of life. By looking at all the options before making a decision at least they are giving her a chance - if that's possible and without her suffering :hug:
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That's it exactly Janey. Nicky doesn't give up on any cat without assessing the situation a great deal. If she did and went along with what "other rescues" locally to her felt tigerbaby wouldn't have Capone.
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It's breaking my heart reading this thread. Poor little sole.
I know most people on here are far more experienced than I am and I am probably being naive but I can't help feeling that things shouldn't be totally hopeless for this little one.
When you say her legs aren't moving properly, is she able to move at all? Or could she be facilitated to move (eg the contraption in the pic)Truman can't get into and out of a litter tray but I have a number of flat trays with newspaper in all corners of the room which he uses.
Is she in any pain? To me that's the main issue. Other special needs cats, say cats that are blind and deaf can still enjoy life.
Would there be rescue back up for veterinary care? Understandably, people may not be in a position to take on a cat that will possibly require 15 years or extensive vet care.
Has she been exposed to cats other than her litter mates? Do we know how she gets on with them. Would she really need to be an only cat? Truman is in with two totally manic kittens while I'm at work but they focus on each other and don't bother him at all.
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as long as she is pain free I don't think quality of life is an issue, as cats are not aware of what they are missing
my only concern is the number of times I read of cats abandoned because of broken relationships, people losing their homes, going abroad, developing allergies, etc etc
and the thought of a cat with a fairly severe disability finding itself out on the street is horrible - I still have shivers about poor blind Truman out in the traffic on a Bristol street
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I think there are homes around for kittens like this. Have you any more information about how disabled she is? Does she drag herself around or can she walk?
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Ok - I'll email this link to Nicky and get as much feedback as possible about Pumpkin.
Moira, it's highly unlikely Nicky could financially support someone that took Pumpkin on. She generally puts herself in the red with the vets she works at with her rescue work. It's a labour of love, which is wonderful but definitely not lucrative.
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I know what you mean, Trigger. It's bad enough when the healthy young ones are put out to fend for themselves but it is beyond my comprehension how people can do that to the old, the very young and the disabled. Certainly, Pumpkin will need a very special home or sanctuary where she will be loved for herself by people who fully understand what they are taking on. None of us can say for the future what circumstances beyond our control may arise to force us to rehome our little ones. I feel that it is most likely, however, that anyone who will take on a cat with a disability, especially one that is likely to create some amount of extra messy work, when they have so much choice of healthy young cats or kittens, would be the sort of person who would only rehome as a last resort and wouldn't dream of abandoning her. At least that's what I would hope.
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a very tricky case this one. keep us posted JS and I'm sure whatever decision is made is done so in the best interests of the little one.
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More info on Pumpkin:
Right, little Pumpkin.....
She is so sweet, it's heartbreaking.
Ok.. she is eating, playing, purring, she runs up and down the stairs chasing her friend. she does this by dragging herself and does use her toes. She does have feelings in her legs, if you pinch her toes she pulls back and she does use the end of her feet to "walk". She climbs to the top of her scratcher and really doesn't think she has any disability. What the foster lady has been doing is every few hours or so she takes her to the litter tray and wees her. she can wee herself but it seems she doesn't have as much notice and she can be playing then all of a sudden she needs to go so you can see her scramble to get to the tray but usually its too late for her. know She can also sometimes drip. The vet said it is nerve damage.
My foster would keep her but she is moving to Brazil.
This is info sent to me by Nicky today. It does sound as though she's a happy little thing in general.
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This looks a lot more promising.
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From a lay perspective, I don't think it's impossible to find this little one a responsible home where she would be returned rather than ending up on the streets. Whatever happened to me, Noah would go back to CP, it's already in my will!
Whilst nobody can guarantee their circumstances won't change, there are lots of mature people with settled lives - both my aunts and both my parents took early retirement (early 50s) and all own their modest homes outright. Because they all have small homes they aren't overrun with grandchildren, other arrangements are made.
One of the biggest problems would be to ensure this cat had the same standard of care when her owner was away for a weekend, or suddenly taken into hospital. If the rescue were able to offer occasional 'respite care' and all family members and neighbours were informed of this ... but I don't know if that is an option?
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Good idea, Fire Fox. If back up respite care could be arranged and agreed in advance- either with Blackpool Cats in Care or with a local rescue if she is rehomed out of area. I think this would work.
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Hmmm, respite care. That might work.
Was pondering the litter tray thing too. Could make one with a ramp up and down and Pumpkin would hopefully have a "wheelchair" - that might aid the accident situation. I think a cats smart enough to figure out how to manoeuvre something to be able to do that successfully.
Not sure about the cost of one of those wheeled doodley bugs, will look into it.
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if she is managing to get around, ableit awkwardly and can walk on her toe's surely moving her into a wheeled device would potentially make the issue worse as it would mean even less stimulation for the nerves.
Obviously we don't have the full facts but nicki does but with nerve response in her feet and a certain amount of movement I (personally) would be trying to see if we could find out 'which' nerves were affected. Also, with some feeling and movement there I would like to try to see if we could first of all, improve on what she has through physio work - is that an option?
Just a thought and as I said I don't know the ins and outs of the situation just throwing ideas in the pot.
Is there a possibility that it could be some form of infection in the nervous system? our belle came in with a degree of paralysis and it got worse we didn't really know the cause and took a stab in the darkwith an injection of Convenia... in the weeks thereafter she did make slow progress but did get back on her feet albeit with remaining issues in her back legs which are slight.
Granted a different scenario altogether... just trying to drum up thoughts for you guys. :hug:
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JS you said her current fosterer is moving to Brazil? Does this mean there is a deadline to get her sorted? Just wondering how critical this situation is.
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I'm not sure Moira, but quite possibly. And Sarah, am copying and pasting your post into an email - if you've had experience of cats with a similar issue you're definitely more likely to be able to give constructive input than I am.
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no problem janey ;)
keep us posted.
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Thanks. (I'm not Janey, but that's OK. ;))
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sorry hun! head is mush today *slinks to corner in shame* :hug:
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:hug: Don't care what you call me, your input is invaluable! ;) :hug:
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OK got this back:
Pumpkin has had feeling in her toes, and in her legs for as long as we have had her. She has had intensive nursing and physio for roughly the last month and has had antibiotics and anti-inflammatory injections, so we've already been doing everything that people are suggesting for the last month or so.
Nicky is hoping to film Pumpkin to give people a concept of her disability so they can gauge if they feel they could offer her the home she needs, or offer any thoughts.
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Been in touch with a wheelchair company to price things up. Received this message:
We would need the measurements, go to the dogWalker page, if you click on order, the measurement chart will be there, just follow the chart.
The walker would normally be £180.00, but i'm sure we can supply it for her at a reduced rate.
Will look at the sizing. And as soon as Nicky sends me the film of Pumpkin will post her on here.
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Wouldn't having a wheelchair effect the things she already does, like going up stairs, sleeping etc? She certainly wouldn't be able to climb with one of those :(
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and how does the using a litter tray work with wheels?
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Cant these wheels be put on/off? ;)
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and how does the using a litter tray work with wheels?
Ramps I guess and a larger than usual tray for moving in and out. Yes, CC it would affect some parts of her movement but the alternative is pretty severe urine burns if the toileting is not kept on top of and in all honesty I think Nicky's worried she won't be able to find someone able to do what's needed.
Not sure what you mean, BM.... ;)
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It's awful Jack, poor little soul :(
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It is, CC. I'd hate to be the one making the penultimate decision on this one. Pumpkin has so much going for her, but so many obstacles too.
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Shame T is in hospital, as she would have input with Mini, who has a special litter tray, as she can't stand to wee. I dont agree with wheelchairs for animals, and I think it would hamper toileting more than now. We have had a CH kitty, who I briefly cared for, and he could manage a normal tray, but he lifted his legs up more than normal and did end up getting quite a bit out of the tray, bless him. Took a while, but we did rehome him. I dont think the initial thoughts of rehoming are right, people who would look to take on a disabled cat aren't going to be the kind of people who would dump them if circumstances change in my experience. There is a website about disabled cats that has a forum, we approached them with our CH kitty, just can't think of the website, but places like that might be worth approaching, as they have experience/knowledge, and also vets, as while they wouldnt have time, they would know clients who have experience/knowledge of disabled cats, and who would have the dedication to care for her. Good luck
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I Know T is in hospital but I woudl suggest PM'ing her about this little baby as T has first hand experience and will def be able to help here, I have met Minimopsical and she is the happiest friendlist cat I have ever met, ClaireR may be able to help as well as she cares for Minimopsical on a regular basis.
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Just read through this at DM`s request and my opinion is that this kitten is too young to make a decision re walking frames etc. Having brought the severely disabled but very competant Minimopsical from 8 days old to almost 6 years it is my opinion that lots of time needs to be put in encouraging Pumpkin to learn to do as much as possible for herself in order to live as normal a life as possible for herself,this little ones needs cannot be fully assessed at this age, see how she is at 9 months. There are lots of things that can be done to help toileting needs etc, Minimopsical was found a large very sturdy 3 sided gardeners tray at the garden centre cost around £8 and ideal for her toileting, another observation a cat may have difficulty getting to the tray but it doesnt mean she will get urine scald Minimopsical has to lay down to wee and often gets wet but she keeps herself clean as I am sure Pumpkin will.
My opinion forget the wheels and assess her carefully over next 6 months, I will confess that when Minimopsical was small I asked my vet about wheels and a protective hat for Minimopsical fortunately he told me what I am passing on now and in Minimopsicals case he was right.
Good Luck with this very deserving little one.
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Thanks so much T x
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Thanks DM for giving Teresa a heads up, and thank you Teresa for the info. Will pass it on in an email now. I think part of the problem is Nicky can't think of a fosterer to take on Pumpkin other than the one Pumpkin is currently with who is emigrating.
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I'm sorry I live so far away as I would of been happy to take this babe on permantly once our two fosters find new homes. I am the in fortunate situation that although I work I am home in between clients plus my partner is about to give up his day job as just set up a new business and will be in and out of home all day. :'(
We have decided to stop temporarily taking in fosters but instead to take on a kitten/cat with special needs who needs 1 to 1 care for the rest of their lives however long that maybe. We have an easy to move around downstairs with a special cat area under the stairs where litter trays are kept, a flat garden which we can help cats gain access to and a cat run with tunnels etc which again we spend (far too) much time in playing and encouraging our brood to play in.
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How far are you AsiaSnow?
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Asiasnow, your house sounds perfect for this baby, how far are you ?, can a transport run not be orgainised ?
Jack where are you when we need you :Luv2:
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I've PM'd asiasnow about this. Someone else has offered a potential home; they already have a cat with CH and are looking for another special needs cat to be company. From what I can tell they aren't that far from Nicky (who's been sent contact details) either.
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great news! :)
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Fingers crossed :crossed: for this as the less travel for the little one the better xx
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Asiasnow have you seen pud the kitten that Teresa has a Paws Inn ? :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Thought you might all like to know - received an email today regarding Pumpkin; the potential is getting in touch with her fosterer today to discuss the little girl.
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Fingers crossed for this little one.
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:) Hope all goes well xx
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:) Hope all goes well xx
Me too! x :hug:
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Hope all went well :Luv:
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I'm sorry I live so far away as I would of been happy to take this babe on permantly once our two fosters find new homes. I am the in fortunate situation that although I work I am home in between clients plus my partner is about to give up his day job as just set up a new business and will be in and out of home all day. :'(
We have decided to stop temporarily taking in fosters but instead to take on a kitten/cat with special needs who needs 1 to 1 care for the rest of their lives however long that maybe. We have an easy to move around downstairs with a special cat area under the stairs where litter trays are kept, a flat garden which we can help cats gain access to and a cat run with tunnels etc which again we spend (far too) much time in playing and encouraging our brood to play in.
Asia, have you seen or read about little 'Pud' that is at Paws Inn with Teresa ?, that could be a match made in heaven :Luv2:
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A meeting has been organised for tomorrow - keep your fingers crossed, folks.
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Every thing crossed here also! :crossed:
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Good luck for today, i do hope things work out well for this little one.
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Fingers crossed for this little girl that it works out for her
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No update for you yet but the meeting only happened today so I guess I'm being a bit hopeful! Will let you guys know as soon as I do. :)
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Guess who has a new home in time for Christmas....? ;)
Big thanks to Desley who thought of Pumpkin when contacted by the lady in question. :hug:
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Oh WOW ;D
Well done Pumpkin ;D
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Really pleased to hear this.
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Wonderful news ;D
Is she going with the little CH lad that desley baby kitten sat?
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I think the CH cat in question is female, MM. :)
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Great either way, warms your heart to think theres people out there who will open their homes to 2 special kitties :)
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So glad this little one has found a home in time for Christmas!
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Great either way, warms your heart to think theres people out there who will open their homes to 2 special kitties :)
Definitely. Have emailed the lady in question asking her for settling in photos when she gets chance. Will post them if she gets chance to send any. ;)
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Fantastic news....Well Done all concerned! :wow: :Luv2: :hug:
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Pumpkin has gone to her new home.
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;D Great news
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I am so pleased to hear this, that e-mail came at such a good time, and she has experience of disabled cats, which is ideal in this situation.
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Excellent!!! :wow: :Luv2: :hug:
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Sadly, Pumpkins new home is not working out. The CH took a dislike to her and has started to lose weight and lose fur. The lady that has Pumpkin is prepared to care for her until a more suitable environment is found.
Please contact me if you think you may be able to help Pumpkin. :)
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Whats the CH?
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Is the CH the prob she has? :-:
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Sorry. The lady that took Pumpkin on already has a cat with Cerebellar hypoplasia (It's mentioned earlier in the thread) who just isn't taking to Pumpkin. (Is that clearer? :shy:)
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Yes LOL.
I hope that she gets a new home quickly
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Me too, but I have to admit to thinking it doubtful. Am trying to get in touch with Nicky (her email box is full) and ask her if she'd mind me sending the information to a local newspaper.
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Pumpkin may have a temporary foster home lined up. Send her some vibes, folks.
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I watched something on animal cops other night and it had a little kitty the same as described here, the kitty got a new home and slowly but surely her legs had started to work. She was a happy little soul and it seemed that being able to be in a home had a great improvement on her legs ;D They first said she may need a walking frame, but when they went back for a follow up- they said they thought she was coping fine without one :)
I hope there is some hope for Pumpkin :)
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Sending good vibes for little Pumpkin xx
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Special vibes being sent for Pumpkin to be in her new home soon! :Luv2:
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OK, info and a few pictures of this special little girl....
Pumpkin
A beautiful black and white semi – long haired kitten in desperate need of a new loving home.
Pumpkin has been neutered and suffers from serious hind limb damage, this does not in anyway affect her mobility, she can climb up scratching posts and the sofa and shuffles about the floor as quick as any other cat. She is the most playful kitten I have ever come across and has a fascination with opening and closing doors, which often results in her locking herself in a room – (she lets you know when this has happened). She also has an extremely loud purr which you can hear all over the house.
Pumpkin needs a bit of extra care with her condition as she is unable to use a littler tray, however this has improved due to trial and error and a baking tray with litter on also works, but when she drags herself off she also takes most of the litter with her. Her back legs need bathing everyday, which believe it or not is quite an enjoyable task, she is so well behaved and purrs all the way through it. After she has chased the bubbles down the plug hole she loves nothing more than being wrapped up in a big fluffy towel and curling up on the sofa whilst she dries.
A totally adorable kitten who needs a home where she can play and build her strength up. She loves to play and would be suited to being either an only cat or in a home with other tolerable cats.
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awww JS, she's gorgeous and sounds a wonderful little character, someone will be very lucky to adopt Pumpkin :Luv2:
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If we were closer our lot would accept her she is just so :Luv2: - we have various litter trays in use and also the bidet and shower are also used - what she needs is her own wetroom type area then no aggro and easy to clean
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Liz, for the right home I think Nicky would be prepared to let her travel. Poor Pumpkin has been adopted but brought back again and we're pretty worried that most people will see her as too much of a challenge.
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She is gorgeous and do hope some one will love her enough to look after her ;D
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Aww JS, she is so sweet. :Luv: :Luv: I hope she finds the right home. :hug:
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Me too. I've publicised this little girl a lot today; on here, on the Blackpool Cats in Care site, on CatChat, on Facebook via the group....I've also contacted the local newspaper for Nicky to see if they'd run an article on her. Hopefully we'll find just the right home for her.
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What a pretty little girl she is.... There must be a real forever home out there, are you considering her Liz?
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If OH wasn't goping to be working away we would consider her but on my own with the current crew, the outside mob and the dogs oh and a full time job maybe not the best time but she is so :Luv2:
I couldn't give her the time she needs with all of the above but she would have a happy home - are they going to offer help with vets fees etc may help the right home come along a bit quicker
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Nicky can't afford to do that unfortunately, Liz. The poor girl is already owing to the vets she works at for her rescue work! I know she would if she could, though.
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She sweet :Luv2: are her eyelids always up like that? Could she be harbouring some kind of virus thats contributing to her problems?
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I can't see anything odd about her eyelids. :-[
Potential home offered, keep your fingers crossed.
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:) Fingers crossed xx
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Oh she is lovely, she looks just like a baby Oliver :Luv2:
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Good luck - I agree with MM about her eyes, they do look slightly odd
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Finger crossed for little Pumpkin, she deserves a good home. :hug:
I have been thinking about her everyday.
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Good luck - I agree with MM about her eyes, they do look slightly odd
OK, MM and Desley - possibilities so I can ask Nicky if she's been tested for them. ;) Better to let someone know beforehand.
CC, I can see that actually. :care:
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The name eludes my brain at the moment :( il flick through a book and see if i notice it. I have fingers crossed the potential works out
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What are the possible vets costs a month for this little one? And things that she may need doing/ may go wrong with her leading upto needing a vet? Just thought if they were put here, a rough estimate, then people would know what to expect :)
Could a sponser be sorted out for her if she is to stay with her foster? as you say Nicky cannot cover all the vets costs, or is she needing to be homed to free up space?
Is this the same condition that Teresa's Minimopsicle has?
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Re the eyes, I wonder whether it's just the photo ie because of the brightness of the camera and because the cat is looking upwards. I don't know but you would think those caring for Pumpkin/the vet would have noticed if there was anything strange?
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I'm not entirely sure about costs, CC but I wouldn't imagine it would be a small undertaking. I think she'd benefit from some form of physio and that's not likely to be cheap. On the plus side, I'm told she has definitely shown signs of improvement and while it's not thought she'll ever "function normally" she does have the potential to improve.
A fosterer isn't really the ideal solution long term as Nicky is utterly over-run at the moment and as you say, she needs to rehome so she can take more on. I think she also feels that Pumpkin should have a chance at as close to a normal life as possible in a forever home.
No, the condition is not CH. They aren't 100% sure what's wrong with Pumpkin.
I'm not sure what things could go wrong with regards to leading up to her needing a vet, but if this home that is a potential works out the lady in question has three other special needs cats and has passed a CP home check, so we'd get a vet reference and take it from there.
Janey, I agree. The number of times this little one has seen a vet I'd hope they'd comment if anything looked awry in that area.
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Sounds very good I hope it goes ahead for her :)
Is the potential home near Nicky?
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Nope. Transport run needed....
Was just about to update actually! Just got an email stating that although she has had a CP home check she's more than happy to let us get a vet reference and has already let them know we'll be calling. She's sent me the address and phone number so I can get in touch with them this week. ;)
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Transport to where?
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Surrey I think. Will confirm the exact location after the vet call. ;)
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Well, I called the vet myself and this lady sounds wonderful. They had nothing but good things to say about her and apparently she has endless patience and has a cat with a similar condition to Pumpkin already.
Now to sort out transport - it may be the lady that has Pumpkin is doing the run herself.
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sounds good!
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Sounds ideal for her :)
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Yep, but transport is needed. Will post in the transport section.
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Hope this works out and Pumpkin has a forever loving home -she is so pretty :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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I know. It happens from time to time that I feel my resolve and practicality softening - definitely happened with this girl. But if I'm honest not only would I not have been able to afford it, I'm having a rough time with Mog at the moment.
Sweet little thing, by all accounts I'm told. :)
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Am so pleased to hear this..... Hope this home will be forever! :Luv2: :hug:
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Well done Pumpkin here's to you in your forever home ;D
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She's a little treasure and hope she'll be really happy in her new home :Luv2:
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I hope so too. Thank you to everyone concerned!
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Fingers crossed for her.
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Fingers crossed for her.
Lilly Pumpkin is absolutely adorable and I'm sure she willl be very happy in her new home :Luv2:
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How's the gorgeous Lilly Pumpkin doing????? :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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I thought Therese would post but she must be really busy. I received this update last week:
Lily-P is doing fine.....i agree she is really a lovely little girl. She now mixes with my other cats and she loves them to pieces but she is definately the one in charge. She is a little pig when it comes to dinner time so i am having to keep an eye on her as she is getting a little bit round. On a more serious level, weight gain will not help her mobility so i am trying to feed her sensibly. She is also enjoying the garden under strict supervision and loves lying in the flowerbed.
Thank you for giving Lily-P that chance at a normal life and the lovely people who helped transport her to me.
Please keep up the fantastic work you are doing.
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:Luv: that's a lovely update, glad she's doing well
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thought I had replied to this but if I did it went poof!
Sounds like she has a lovely home ;D