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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: Gillian Harvey on November 20, 2007, 11:57:09 AM
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Noticed yesterday evening everytime she walked a little bit, it looked like she needed to take rest and she would sit down in a strange position (bit like when they squat to have a wee!). Then watched her when she was eating with the rest of them in the kitchen, her back legs seemed to be moving away from her, you know, like they slide on vinyl floors.
It seemed to get worse during the evening, such that, she was staggering as she walked, and then if she tried to climbed up onto anything, it was like her back legs couldnt push her up. She didnt walk much during the evening, but when she did, her legs then started to give way. It seemed worse with one leg than the other. She can put weight on both legs, but it seems like they give way after a bit.
Anyway, this morning she was staggering a lot, so took her to the vet. He felt all round her legs and back, and saw her walking (staggering) and he thought she must have hurt herself somehow - but early yesterday morning she was dashing up the stairs after one of the others and seemed absolutely fine - it was only later on that the legs started going funny. Vet reckons its just one leg, and gave her anti-inflammatory and see how it goes for a couple of days.
Its very worrying (although vet didnt seem too worried - honestly, goes from one extreme to the other 1 vet panicking me about FIP the other day, and this one not too concerned about a kitten that can't use its legs properly!) Would you believe also, I havent renewed her insurance yet - coz of all this stuff about the inflated quotes from Axa, I'd still been shopping around!!! I could cry! :'(
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Awwww, poor Gwyn n poor You :hug: :hug: :hug:
Hope she is on the mend soon :Luv:
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Awwww, poor Gwyn n poor You :hug: :hug: :hug:
Hope she is on the mend soon :Luv:
Thanks Stuart :thanks: Its horrible to see her staggering around, she's sleeping at the moment though.
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Will be thinking of you both as I have just said on my thread :Luv:
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Oh no poor lil un... let's hope it is nothing serious, keep us posted how she gets on!! She will be in my thoughts!! :hug:
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Poor little girl, sending lots of love and positive vibes that she is feeling better really soon. xxx We had a similar problem with Mellika and although she wasnt wobbling she looked as if she had cramp in her back legs which would pass in a few seconds. The vet says she has pulled muscles (probably from one of her mistimed death defying leaps) but she is improving really quickly.
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Lots of tummy rubs for Gwyn and :hug: for you. Hopeit is nothing serious
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:hug: Gillian, I really hope it's nothing serious. I would keep an eye on her and if she doesn't improve, get her back in again and see another vet if need be. I always worry when their back ends go but hopefully she has just pulled herself :hug:
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Poor babe. I hope it turns out to be nothing serious and that she's better soon :hug:
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Hope she is better soon and it isn't anything serious. :hug: :hug: to you
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I do hope your vet is right and it's nothing serious. Please keep us posted. :hug:
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Hope Gwyn is feeling better soon and that it is just because she has overdone the gymnastics a bit. Sending her hugs and headbutts.
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Are they planning on monitoring her Gillian? The more I think about this, the more I think about Pingu. Her back legs went on her a few months after she'd been rehomed. The vet they were dealing with was useless and she got worse and worse, to the point they wanted to put her to sleep. I ended up getting her back and getting her in my own vets and it took weeks of tlc and syringe feeding to get her round again. She was on the verge of death when I picked her up and she had a temp of 105, the vets hadn't got a clue what they were dealing with, mine didn't either but they gave her all the support medical wise that they could muster. She did recover but the only thing they could put it down to was some form of virus, possibly a Meningitis type bug. All I'm saying is keep a close eye on her just in case, when things affect the back legs, it's not always obvious at the time :hug:
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:thanks: everyone.
We had a similar problem with Mellika and although she wasnt wobbling she looked as if she had cramp in her back legs which would pass in a few seconds. The vet says she has pulled muscles (probably from one of her mistimed death defying leaps) but she is improving really quickly.
This doesnt pass though, she continues to wobble, then sits down (or falls) with her legs in a strange position, sort of out behind her. How long did Melika take to improve Sheryl?
Are they planning on monitoring her Gillian? The more I think about this, the more I think about Pingu. Her back legs went on her a few months after she'd been rehomed.
She did recover but the only thing they could put it down to was some form of virus, possibly a Meningitis type bug.
Vet just said come back on Thursday if no better. Dawn was Pingu ill when her legs first went? its just that Gwyn seems fine in herself, she's eating fine, trying to play - with her front paws (lying down!) and even, when she was standing, had a little playful dab at Joe - cept she fell over bless her!
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Vet just said come back on Thursday if no better. Dawn was Pingu ill when her legs first went? its just that Gwyn seems fine in herself, she's eating fine, trying to play - with her front paws (lying down!) and even, when she was standing, had a little playful dab at Joe - cept she fell over bless her!
She wasn't actually living with me at the time. All I was told was that she was fine, went out and came in and her back legs weren't right. They weren't sure if she'd been hit by a car or whether it was something else initially. She had bloods done and an x ray but the cause couldn't be determined. Eventually she got worse and she couldn't use her litter tray, she then stopped eating..........this was the first I had heard about it as by that point the vet said there was nothing they could do >:( I picked her up at gone 10 at night as after hearing the vet saga, I knew they weren't giving her everything she needed and surprisingly they hadn't even took her temperature :Crazy: Gwyn's problem may be totally different but just be on guard in case something else is going on other than her hurting her back legs. Shelby had a similar problem, she was feral and came in with gunky eyes, etc.......she also lost the use of her back legs and is now partly brain damaged but is happy in herself and did regain the use although never 100%. She also ended up completely blind in one eye due to whatever bug she had. Again, it was put down to some type of brain bug. I'm not trying to worry you but sometimes, vets don't know what they are dealing with and brush it off as something and nothing, I really hope this isn't the case with Gwyn, xxx
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Poor Gwyn :'(
Fingers crossed she was just playing rough :boxer: and it will sort itself out :hug:
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i am sorry to hear about gwynn and hope its nothing more than a pulled muscle :hug:
i know kocka hurt herself slipping on the floor cos she had furry feet, i hope its nothing serious.
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Oh Gillian. So very sorry to hear that little Gwyn's back legs are not working properly. She is such a beautiful little girl and has definitely turned me into a Persian fan. Hope everything is completely back to normal really soon :hug:
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Gillian, maybe she put her back out a wee bit hurtling up and down the stairs? It is a constant source of worry to me the way Smidgen takes the stairs. Often wonder if he will make it to the bottom still on his legs. If so, the anti-inflamatory should ease up any bruising. But keep an eye on her (as if you wouldn't) and get her back to the vet if it gets worse. Try videoing it for the vet ... They never behave normally at the vet and if they have a chance to see her in various activities it will help them with their diagnosis...
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Gillian :hug: hope Gwyns on the mend soon and she has just been over enthusiastic during play :Luv:
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basic simple neurological tests can normally asertain whether the legs are working fine but the brain/nerves arent or the signals are working fine but pain is preventing the animal from allowing the movement.
It sounds highly likely some sort of injury has taken place so fingers crossed for a rapid recovery.
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basic simple neurological tests can normally asertain whether the legs are working fine but the brain/nerves arent or the signals are working fine but pain is preventing the animal from allowing the movement.
It sounds highly likely some sort of injury has taken place so fingers crossed for a rapid recovery.
Vet did do something I think he called a 'knuckle' test? - he was bending the legs somehow to see how quick the reflex to pull them back was - I think! There was reaction but it was very slow, especially on the worse leg - is that the sort of thing you mean Lynn? Would the metacam have an immediate effect or does it take time to work? - she's still very wobbly and the legs are collapsing when she walks a bit.
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Mellika has taken a couple of weeks to get better and even now if she has a mad half hour it seems to happen briefly.
when Raffiki was younger he was "lame" on his front leg and that turned out to be joint infection and it was cleared up with antibiotics.
Sending love and positive vibes for little Gwyn and hugs for you. xxx
If you are not happy with her progress Gillian take her back to the vets and ask for Xrays is necessary.
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yes that which tests for them knowing their foot isnt in the right position, ie paralysis where nothing is wrong with the limb the animal wouldnt move it coz the signals are cut, also pedal reflex (pain response) seeing if the animal recognises pain and takes appropriate action (to pull leg away from source)
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Oh god... sorry to hear about Gwyn Gillian... you're not having a great week at all are you.
Hopefully it is just a strain. We had a case a few weeks back where a cat went off its legs completely really quickly and was bright enough in itself but couldn't use its legs and it turned out to be an infection in the nervous systems. A course of antibiotics (Convenia I think it was) and she got back on her feet over the following week.
Hopefully for you and gwyn tho its nothing as serious and just a simple strain.
Good Luck! HUgs xx
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:hug: and purrs to you and Gwyn - hopefully things will get better very soon, and it won't be anything serious. Me and the fluffies are keeping everything crossed for her :hug: :hug:
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Oh Gillian I'm so sorry to hear of more bad news for you. I don't have advice on this but Smokey asked me to pass on a big hairy headbutt for all the times you've helped him out. :hug: All the best for Gwyn
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:thanks: for all your good wishes for Gwyn. Her legs don't seem any better, although since having her tea, she's not moved around much anyway, perhaps give the anti-inflam chance to work.
We had a case a few weeks back where a cat went off its legs completely really quickly and was bright enough in itself but couldn't use its legs and it turned out to be an infection in the nervous systems. A course of antibiotics
How did they diagnose the infection in the nervous system? - was it by doing blood tests?
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Poor little Gwyn :( Really hope it's something relatively minor and easily fixable :hug:
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Her legs arent working at all now - she's just dragging her lower body along the floor, I'm waiting for the vet to open - tried the duty vet number, no flippin reply >:( - I'm so scared for her.
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:grouphug: for both of you hun. Let us know how you get on pls.
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:hug: Good luck Gwyn & Gillian :hug:
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good luck Gillian and Gwyn
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Fingers crossed for Gwyn. I hope the vet can help her. Could she have trapped a nerve?
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Oh Gillian, I was hoping to log on to good news, praying that little Gwyn will be okay XXX
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:hug: gillian
I do hope it cant be anything long term serious :scared:
I expect they'll xray her today.
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:thanks: - she's at the vets now. Saw my usual vet and she wasnt speculating about what it could be, but is going to do x-rays and take bloods. Just got to wait now.
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Sending positive thoughts your way Gillian, hope all goes well.
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All paws crossed here for you and Gwyn and sending positive vibes to
Liz and the Clan Cats :hug:
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Sending lots of positive vibes and purrs for Gwyn :hug:
Thinking of you Gillian :hug:
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Everything crossed here for Gwyn and lots of :hug: for Gillian. I hope the vet can get to the bottom of what's causing her problem and that it can be sorted easily.
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are they gonna phone you gillian or said what time for you to call ?
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Oh dear me!! This is so frightening!! All the fingers, toes and paws crossed, waiting for a good news!! When are you expecting to hear from the vet?
This waiting must be killing you but stay strong Gillian, you and Gwynnie are in my thoughts :hug: :hug: :hug:
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I'm thinking of you both, xxxx :hug:
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Oh Gillian I am so worried about little Gwyn, I do hope your vet now takes this very seriously and makes all appropriate tests and refers you on immediately if he doesnt know.
Keeping everything crossed for Gwyn and you :hug: :hug: :hug:
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The main thing is Gillian, you acted quickly and all you can do now is wait until they get the results, you can't have done any more than you have hun :hug:
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Gillian, I hope you get some good news soon
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Can you believe this - the vet nurse just rung me to tell me that they haven't been able to process the x-ray because the processor or something isnt working and they're waiting for an engineer to come - in the next few hours!!! >:( - I don't know if that means they've actually done the x-ray or whether they'll have to do it when the processor thingy is working - but surely she's going to be awake from the aneasthetic/sedation by then?
In the meantime they're going to do the blood test, results could be in house - BUT they may have to send them away - so thats another day - I can't bear this, I can't do anything, I need to get on with work, but I just can't concentrate on anything, just been sleeping on the settee, and i've got a customer coming this afternoon, so have to get prepared for that.
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oh Gillian that is awful, I take it they have given no indication of what it could be?
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oh Gillian that is awful, I take it they have given no indication of what it could be?
None yet Dawn - my vet mentioned lots of things when I first took her this morning when I pushed her for her thoughts, - neurological, infection etc, but said lets just wait and see what shows up on x-ray, bloods.
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Gilllian hun, just seen this :hug:
I really hope the vets can find out what's wrong with darling Gwyn, and that its not serious.
Keep us posted when you hear more :hug:
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Gillian, I would find out if she's already been sedated etc etc, if she hasn't, contact another vet and get her in and get them to run an x ray for you. This isn't down to you that their machine isn't working but it's all time and time may not be on Gwyn's side if it's serious. Why can't everything in life be simple :censored: Fingers crossed and try and chill out, I know it's hard but try and take a deep breath :hug: Hopefully the bloods will show something up and they can start her treatment straightaway.
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I agree with Dawn, you need to be pushy for Gwyns sake :hug: :hug:
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I have to agree Gillian, does you vet have another surgery that they could maybe transfer her to - if not then see if you can get another vet to see her. If their machine doesnt get fixed today it is all time that is being wasted when Gwyn could be getting treatment.
Good luck Hun, thinking of you and little Gwyn xxx
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I've just phoned and she hasnt actually been sedated yet anyway. Spoke to the vet this time, and she said we're going to run blood tests (well yes I knew that, thats what they said over an hour ago!) Theyr'e expecting the machine to be fixed (probably by now) - So now I've got to phone at 5 - more waiting, that seems like a lifetime away. :( - but they are starting her on steroids, anti inflammatories and antibiotics.
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Best wishes Gillian :hug:
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Thinking of you both :Luv:
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I hope there's some good news, Gillian :hug:
What a pain about the X ray machine. I hope she's had her x-ray this afternoon.
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The vet has phoned. The x-rays have shown nothing untoward - so they are thinking more towards infection - and FIP has reared its ugly head again, as well as Toxoplasmosis (sp?) Thats what they are testing for and they have to be sent away and might not get back till end of week. Vet also mentioned lesions around her iris. Meanwhile she is staying in tonight anyway.
My heart sank when I heard that nothing showed up on the x-rays, because that could likely be mended, the vet sound very pessimistic if it was FIP obviously - he did say toxo can be treated but it often goes hand in hand with compromised immune system - so think they are also testing for FIV and Felv.
Its hard to take all this in
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I am so sorry that you still do not know what the cause is and really hope that it is something that can be treated :hug: :hug: :hug:
I dont think you ever told us about little Gwyns background ot if you did, I dont remember.
We all love Gwyn nearly as much as you and tonight I send you and Gwyn all my best thoughts and hope that this will turn out well .
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I was just about to ask the same gill
I presumed you bought gwyn gillian and obviously you must alert the breeder as all the options would also have connections to all the other cats she may have (god forbid)
have you a list of ALL the things that persians are known to possibly have more commonly as a breed, if so any clues there ?
How old is she now exactly ? (i know a kitten but not sure of weeks or months)
depending on the diagnosis/prognosis/treatments etc you may have grounds to recupe all money back from the breeder, i know money isnt your issue here but you havent had her that long and she should be fit and healthy. (this will prob be something more to think about once she's on the mend :hug: )
I'd have expected all cats at the breeders to have been tested and be vaccinated for fiv/felv and on the slim chance she picked something like that up with you I find it hard to think it could have caused this symptoms in such a short space of time, Fip i suppose is different from the fiv/felv.
Ive never seen toxoplasmosis in a cat so i actually dont know how the symptoms present but its interesting about the eye as obviously the cysts can end up there so ?????
big :hug: for you and little gwynnie just now :hug:
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Sorry to hear the xrays didnt pick anything up :hug:
Same as Lynn i would expect her to be neg for FIV/FeLV. FIP is different as its depends on the cats own response to the very common FCoV. I really hope it isnt :hug: :hug:
Good vibes sending for little Gwynnie
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MM if a young cat came into contact with the fip virus how soon could you see symtoms ?
(fip is something i never retain info in my head on, dont ask me why i just never remember it - maybe coz i rarely seen it or maybe coz im a dunce)
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It depends on the cat, they can carry it for a while get stressed and then get ill or they get ill straight away :(
The funny thing is the stronger the immune system response to the fcov means the more likely they are to develop fip :( very odd virus.
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I presumed you bought gwyn gillian and obviously you must alert the breeder
How old is she now exactly ? (i know a kitten but not sure of weeks or months)
depending on the diagnosis/prognosis/treatments etc you may have grounds to recupe all money back from the breeder,
I'd have expected all cats at the breeders to have been tested and be vaccinated for fiv/felv
big :hug: for you and little gwynnie just now :hug:
I got Gwyn from a breeder in Cornwall, her and her husband have been breeding colourpoints for 20 yrs, they are well known and respected - whilst I didnt actually see Gwyn in her breeder's home - Gwyn's sister Jade went to a another breeder who DID see the kittens at the breeder's home and in fact has known the breeder for 10yrs - and we've been in touch on the phone and I've visited the other breeders house (to collected Gwyn - as she picked both ktitens up from Cornwall).
As to getting money back from the breeder - well I havent actually paid the full amount for her yet! - the breeders were really lovely because after i'd said I'd have her, I had all the vet bills with Jasper and Suzie, and they were quite happy for me to take her and pay for her as and when I could. So I've actually only paid half for her so far!
Gwyn is 5 months old now, and I got her when she was 13 weeks - so she's been with me about 2 months. She'd had all her jabs - the 4 way Fevaxyn. I also think Felv/Fiv are unlikely. I've phoned the breeders and they are shocked as they've never come across anything like this before. I don't know anything about toxo in cats either, but I think the lesions the vet was referring to in the eye he thought were another pointer for FIP rather than toxo, but I may have got that wrong - not really taking it all in.
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So sorry, hope they can find problem & sort her out. :hug:
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I am sure that Lynn will know the answer to this as I cant remember but, I thought the test for Felv/Fiv could be affected by the vaccination and if they have been vaccinated it comes back possitive??
Coming from a reputable breeder and you and all your Persians, surely this cant be FIP?
So much thinking about you :hug:
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Gill, the FIV vaccine (not available in the UK luckily) gives a 'positive' result but the FeLV jab doesnt ;D
FIP can affect the best of breeders as its a unique reaction in each cat when it comes across the corona virus which i think 90% of cats have. A kitten can get fcov from contact with its mothers faeces and from then on its an individual response.
http://www.dr-addie.com/ (http://www.dr-addie.com/)
Most cats simply become infected, shed FCoV for a month or two, mount an immune response, eliminate the virus and live happily ever after. However, for reasons that we don't yet fully understand, instead of clearing FCoV infection, an unfortunate few cats develop FIP.
Im really hoping she pulls through whatever this is Gillian :hug: :hug:
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I thought the test for Felv/Fiv could be affected by the vaccination and if they have been vaccinated it comes back possitive??
Coming from a reputable breeder and you and all your Persians, surely this cant be FIP?
So much thinking about you :hug:
:thanks: thank you Gill, I can't believe this is happening. Yes i think your right about felv fiv vacs and positives. As for FIP I don't know, i think the virus that causes it is a common one in many cats, especially - multicat households, without causing any problems.
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Im really hoping she pulls through whatever this is Gillian :hug: :hug:
Me too - i just want to bring her home.
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:hug: Hoping they can rule out things and it will all be OK for her :hug:
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:hug: Hoping they can rule out things and it will all be OK for her :hug:
:thanks: Mark - and :thanks: everyone, it means a lot to have you all rooting for her
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Was hoping to log on and find good news, got everything crossed for little Gwyn. What a an awful, worrying time this must be for you :hug:
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Have they ruled out anything like poisoning? Sorry, don't remember if they are indoor cats. Mind you I suppose there may also be something around the house?
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I really hope and wish that little Gwyn gets better soon, take care of yourself Gillian xxx
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yeah the felv vacc doesnt cause any subsequent tests to show up as positive.
As far as i know this is why we are not using the fiv vaccine over here because it make the test show positive.
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gillian i found this on toxoplasmosis signs -- i dont think it fits in at all although it says could affect eyes and CNS i am sure she would not have been free from any of the other illness signs.
Signs
Most cats show no clinical signs of infection with Toxoplasma. Occasionally, however, clinical disease—toxoplasmosis—occurs, kittens and young adult cats being more often affected than older animals. Lethargy, depression, loss of appetite, and fever are typical early nonspecific signs. Pneumonia, manifested by respiratory distress of gradually increasing severity, is the outstanding sign in many cats. Hepatitis (inflammation of the liver) may cause vomiting, diarrhea, prostration, and jaundice (yellowing of the mucous membranes). Inflammation of the pancreas and enlargement of lymph nodes also occur. Toxoplasmosis can also affect the eyes and central nervous system, producing inflammation of the retina or anterior ocular chamber, abnormal pupil size and responsiveness to light, blindness, incoordination, heightened sensitivity to touch, personality changes, circling, head pressing, twitching of the ears, difficulty in chewing and swallowing food, seizures, and loss of control over urination and defecation.
In some cases, coinfection with feline leukemia virus (FeLV) or feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV
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Don't want ot interupt helpful comments but really want you to know Gillian that I'm certainly rooting for the lovely Gwyn here too. Really feel for you :hug:
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gillian i found this on toxoplasmosis signs -- i dont think it fits in at all although it says could affect eyes and CNS i am sure she would not have been free from any of the other illness signs.
No it doesnt fit at all - the ONLY sign to me of something wrong was not being able to use her back legs - in all other respects she was fine, she was eating well, still trying to play (with her front paws!) even though her back legs were lying useless. I picked her up onto my bed last night and she was trying to catch my hand moving under the duvet in the same playful way she did every other night.
Don't want ot interupt helpful comments but really want you to know Gillian that I'm certainly rooting for the lovely Gwyn here too. Really feel for you :hug:
Thank you Ros :thanks:
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I hope Gwyns problem is identified and found to be treatable really soon. Poor little girl.
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I dont think this will help but Lynn has givem Diane Addies site below.
However at the cat show in Birminghame I was given a magazine called Fancy That! which seems to be aimed at pedigree owners and breeders, its a new magazine and this is the trial edition.....sorry rambling.
They have the first of series of articles by Diane Addie and its called what is FIP?
Briefly it says it comes from FCov infection which I think Milly referred to.
FCov is a temp infection in majority of cats with no problems
Can be Permanent Infection but Cat will be jhealthy
FIP can affect 5-10% FCov infected cats
Then divides FIP into Wet and Dry
Clinical signs of WET
Swollen Tummy
Breathing probs, rapid breating or by mouth
Cat not eating, although some eat normally
Apparent weight loss, bones sticking out, although die to fluid cat may weigh more
Temp when taken but apparently some cats like to sit on owner to dhare body het
Decreased activity if cat normally active
Clinical signs of DRY
Cat not eating as well as normal
Cat loses weight gradually
Temp as for WET above
Less active and depressed
Iritis or Uveitis - this appears as brownish or reddish discoloration of the eye usually or can appear as a misty appearance of the front of the eye. In one case she saw blue eyes turn green.
Jaundice.....Nose or gums look yellow or pale
Neuro signs - can be any or all of the folowing:
fits or seizures loss of balance tremopr eyes darting from sode to side
personality chang
paralysis.
What is very interesting not from Gillians point of view but maybe from Dawns and Lesleys and maybe Teresas is:
Are your kittens infected wit FCov? This is highly contagious.
Signs are:
diarrheoa in kittens usually 5-7 weeks
litters of kittens in uneven sizes
one kitten developing FIP
Diane Addies site is www.catvirus.com
I dont know if that is a
new website but there is also going to be two ebooks on FCov and FIP for breeders and rescuers available soon.
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I hope you get some better news today, Gillian, and that Gwyn show some improvement. The end of the week is going to feel like forever if you have to wait til then for test results.
I'm sending more get well vibes for Gwyn and some more :hug: for you. Nothing more stressful than having a poorly pet at the vets and not knowing what the problem is :(
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I have everything crossed Gillian, and really hope it isn't FIP, it is a nasty illness, it is something that can be connected with catteries though, so might depend on what the breeders set up is as to whether it is an option.
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So sorry there's not more positivie news for you yet Gillian, keeping all things crossed for you both. :hug:
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Keeping everything crossed for some positive news for you today Gillian :hug: :hug:
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I was hoping to find better news Gillian, I'm keeping everything crossed for you and little Gwyn
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I think it might be better news today. After speaking to that breeder last night I printed off the letter on the kitten food alert thread and took it into the vets this morning. I saw Gwyn and gave her a great big cuddle and she was so pleased to see me - she looked fine and she was all cuddled up on one of my fleeces I took down with her yesterday, with a heatpad underneath it. When the vet put her down on the floor she was actually using her legs a little bit better.
So I showed my vet the letter but really we've got to wait till the blood tests come back (hope today!) which will show if calcium and phos ratios are out of balance. I thought we'd be getting the FIP test back soon too - but my vet just told me it can take a couple of weeks. I know I shouldnt be getting my hopes up - but I can't help feeling much more positive than yesterday.
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Brilliant news Gillian ;D
So glad that you feel more positive today and you have seen your little girl.
Still got everything crossed for you :care:
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I'm really pleased the news looks as if it's going to be more positive today, sending you big :hug: , xxx
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I really hope that this could be the start of good things :hug:
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Gillian you are in my thoughts I hope things are sorted out quickly and little Gwyn comes home soon
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That sounds a bit more promising. I'm glad you've seen her and she seems better and in good spirits! ;D Did the vet say when he thought she would be able to go home? Or does that depend on the results of the blood tests?
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So much was going on while I was offline!! Perhaps it was a good thing I came back to the news of a possible sign of things looking up this morning. ;D I would have been crying for Gwynnie last night!! :(
I really hope things will only get better from here... this waiiiiiting for the result must be eating you alive Gillian, as it does to all of us rooting for the lil un. Keep your chin up and don't give up the positive thinking!! If nothing else I will WILL Gwyn to get better soon!! ;)
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rooting for good news and a speedy recovery here too :hug:
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Did the vet say when he thought she would be able to go home? Or does that depend on the results of the blood tests?
I think she might be able to come home today sometime - vet said she'd keep her there until they've got the full blood profile tests (which will show if the calc/phos thing is wrong) and we should get those today fingers crossed.
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I hope she comes home todat, feeling better. :hug:
Its been a worring week for few of us.
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Thats wonderful news Gillian, Im sure that little Gwyn will make a better recovery at home with those who love her. So glad that thimgs are looking more positive.
Fingers, toes and everything else crossed that she is soon on the mend and that the vets can find out what caused her problem.
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Great news Gillian. Hopefully she will be back ruling the roost later today :Luv:
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Oh Gillian that's great news! ;D I'm so pleased for both of you ;) I'll keep everything crossed for the bloods, and hope she is home again soon :hug:
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I am sure she will be happier at home and lets hope the bloods show that to be the problem :hug:
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Well the results havent come through yet :( So i've just been in to see her again and she came to the front of the cage to greet me and and I gave her lots of strokes - I just want to bring her home, now I've got to wait till tomorrow.
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arrrr thats a shame, how was she?
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I just want to bring her home, now I've got to wait till tomorrow.
So frustrating. Keep positive (she will be having a nice doze now, Im sure).
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ah Gillian, how frustrating for you, all for a piece of paper and you could have had her at home with you. all fingers and toes crossed here...
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arrrr thats a shame, how was she?
She actually seemed fine again, very bright, giving me headbutts and tucking in to some dry food while I was there. Difficult to tell how her legs are in the cage, but they were definitely better this morning when I saw her walking (well sort of walking!), than they were yesterday.
ah Gillian, how frustrating for you, all for a piece of paper and you could have had her at home with you. all fingers and toes crossed here...
I know, and it really makes no difference what the bit of paper says, because she'll be coming home anyway
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I'm pleased she's chirpier hun. :hug: she continues to get there.
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Can't say I really wanted to read this thread tonight but so glad I did. Gillian so sorry the little un couldn't come home today and hope the vets get in touch asap tomorrow. Very pleased though that you think you've noticed an improvement in her back legs and fingers firmly crossed here that even better news tomorrow. Is she on anti biotics? Sorry if you've said already but, if she is, maybe infection beginning to clear up. Such a worry :(.
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i am pleased gwyn is happy and loves you and hope she will be home with you tomorrow :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Can't say I really wanted to read this thread tonight but so glad I did. Gillian so sorry the little un couldn't come home today and hope the vets get in touch asap tomorrow. Very pleased though that you think you've noticed an improvement in her back legs and fingers firmly crossed here that even better news tomorrow. Is she on anti biotics? Sorry if you've said already but, if she is, maybe infection beginning to clear up. Such a worry :(.
Yes Ros, she's on antibiotics, anti-inflammatories and steroids, phew!! I'm missing her so much, it seems so strange not having her around.
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Fingers crossed things continue to get better for you and your baby Gillian x
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Sending lots of positive vibes to bring Gwyn back home tomorrow~~~~~~~~~~ :hug: ;)
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Fingers crossed she can come home today and continues to show some improvement. You must miss her terribly and she will do so much better at home too.
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just checking in Gillian, hope you get the results today
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Hope she continues to improve and is home with you today.
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Sending lots of positive thoughts to you both today Gillian, Hope your little precious comes home today. :Luv:
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Fingers crossed she can come home today :luck:
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Any news yet, Gillian? I hope she's on her way home very soon.
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I had to go out this morning and fully expected a message on my phone when I got back, but nothing. I just phoned and the results arent back, so the vet nurse was just going to chase them up and phone me straight back - still waiting :waiting: This is agony.
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Doesn't it drive you nuts. Hope you have heard by now
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Aww, so sorry they have been messing you around with the results, fingers crossed for you both.
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Could we have an update please on the lovely Gwynn Gillian. I got distracted from posting earlier at the office with a phone call but wonder if the results have gone astray which happened to someone I know. Is she home? BIG HUGS :hug:
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How frustrating this is!! :( >:( :( I just hope at least Gwynnie can come home while all this waiting around!! I bet Ben is missing her, too!!
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My baby is home. :yayyy:
We are no further forward with a diagnosis though, my hope about it being a nutritional deficiency is fading and I'm scared again. The blood profile didnt show anything particularly abnormal, phosphorus and creatinine were a little high, but this isnt unusuall apparently for a growing kitten. There IS still the poss that its nutritional, the early stages may produce symptoms (like the weakness in her legs), but may not show on the blood results.
There are other horrible sounding possiblities like some rare brain storage disease, a spinal bleed, but my vet still keeps mentioning FIP and Toxo, so she's being treated as if she might have toxo - with two types of antibiotics and steroids.
She's really happy to be home and her legs are greatly improved, though still very wobbly and the legs splay out and give way every now and then. She's eaten all her tea and is very sleepy, prob due to the medication and the trauma of the last couple of days - I know the feeling!
Its so lovely to have her home, but I can't help feeling very worried for her, because I just don't know if she's going to get better.
Heres a pic of her just now - on the landing with her 'Uncle' Ben :Luv2:
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb234/scruffyjoe/Cats/GwynhomewithBen.jpg)
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Fingers crossed Gillian, and I am sure you know there is no conclusive test for FIP, so even if the Corona Virus test comes back positive, it doesn't mean it is FIP.
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Aww bless her! I'm glad you've got her back home. It must be so worrying not knowing the cause, but it sounds as if she's much better than she was, so hopefully it will just be some infection that can be treated with drugs and that she'll recover from quickly.
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Just had a sudden thought, has your vet tested for Glycogen Storage Deficiency (GSD)? It can cause muscle weakness so just wondered if it's worth testing for it if the vet hasn't already done so.
Glad she's back home and being looked after by you and her Uncle Ben. :hug:
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i am so pleased she is back home and hope that the meds she is on will bring her back to normal, it must be so worrying for you :hug: :hug:
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Really pleased she is home. Cuddles to you all tonight. Keeping everything crossed that the drugs do their job.
Claire xx
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clearly just as relieved to be home as you are to have her :Luv: poor wee thing. Fingers remain crossed here (which makes typing very difficult!! :rofl:)
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So very glad she's home Gillian and so improved. Perhaps the antibiotics and steroids are doing the trick. Do hope so. Best of vibes being sent to the gorgeous Gwynn by Freddie, Billy Whiz ad Tom. Me too :care:
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I am so glad she is home with you now. :Luv: :hug:
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I just wanted to say a BIG thankyou :thanks: to everyone for all your good wishes, positive vibes and support you've given me and Gwyn over this past frightening week, it really helps to know your'e all out their and willing her to get better. Another BIG thank you too :thanks: to Dawn (Diddydawn) who was the calming voice at the other end of the phone when I was panicking (and probably pretty incoherent!) when Gwyn initially went off her legs.
She still seems to be doing ok, legs still wobbly - but the thing is she wants to do everything she would normally do, and she's eating pretty well (vet gave me some RC sensitive pouches - don't know why sensitive, but anyway it looks like little bits of rubber LOL!) Plus she's also having RC dry - not the kitten food, but the weaning one - just in case its still the nutritional deficiency. I don't know how I'm going to get the antirobe antibiotics into her - they are huge capsules, like ibuprofen caps!
Just had a sudden thought, has your vet tested for Glycogen Storage Deficiency (GSD)?
My vet only mentioned the Lysosomal storage disease, but she hasnt tested for that, because she wants to wait on the results of the fip and toxo, but if she does take blood for that, it is so rare that the bloods have to be sent away to Germany! So I'll mention that as well, when I got back with her on Monday.
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So happy for you Gillian :hug: love the picture - definitely one for the tummy munchers :evillaugh:
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My best wishes still being dished out in full swing!! I am happy that she is now home sweet home, and from what you said Gillian she doesn't seem to be suffering or feeling ill apart from her legs, that may be a good sign. Keep smiling and thinking positive, we are all willing for her speedy complete recovery!!
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So very very glad that Gwun is back home with you Gillian, still sending positive and healing thoughts for her. xxx Get well soon little one xxxx
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I I don't know how I'm going to get the antirobe antibiotics into her - they are huge capsules, like ibuprofen caps!
I'm sure I've heard of antirobe being opened and mixed with food before but I'm not certain. I'm sure someone on here will know far better than me!
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So pleased shes home ;D
Yep antirobe are good for mixing in food. Watch the bum tho as some cats cant tolerate them :sick:
If you do pill her with them its important to wash them down with water as clindamycin is an irritant ;D
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Gandolf RIP was on antirobe for many many months on anf off and I always mixed it in his food
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So pleased Gwyn is back home with you Gillian. xx
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yep antirobe fortunately is one of the drugs that can safely be mixed with food and still work, its also tastless (apparently)
good to hear she's abit better gillian, lets hope full recovery in just as quick time :hug:
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So pleased she's back home again :hug: xx
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Yes, I mixed the antirobe with her food last night and she ate it all :evillaugh: However I'd been giving her the baytril and prednisolne tabs in de-furrum treats, which she accepted readily yesterday - hmmm, not today though!
She seems to be doing even better (amost scared to say it in case I'm tempting fate) today, legs seem much less wobbly - and she definitely WANTS to do all the normal kitten things, its jut that her legs don't always let her! Still worried though that it could just be the meds, but trying to keep positive at the continuing improvement.
I'm exhausted and if I was feeling a bit de-motivated before all this, I'm 10 times worse now - all I want to do is focus on her and I'm constantly checking on her to see she's alright, watching her whenever she's walking trying to assess what improvement there is LOL!. Now the cold reality of paying the bill is setting in - what a way to learn my lesson about getting insurance renewed in good time :-[ Luckily though my vet is letting me pay bit by bit, phew!
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I hope the improvement continues and she obviously doesnt sound in pain , such a worry , and yes bloomin insurance grrrrrrrrr :hug: :hug:
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I do hope she is improving everyday!
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Sending you lots of love xxx
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Hi Gillian I hope she is improving. I know you are very careful with contra-indications so when I saw the word Baytril, alarm bells rang. I can't find the warning I saw last year but did a search and quite a few came up - hope you don't mind me posting them as I know you have enough to worry about
http://www.showcatsonline.com/x/baytril_warning.htm
http://www.paw-talk.net/forums/f19/baytril-9665.html
http://www.pettogethers.com/PowerReports/BaytrilBlindnessAndYourCat.aspx
http://action4animals.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/sweepy.htm
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That's interesting Mark. I have used Baytril loads of times and had no issues whatsover, and never heard of any either.
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I wish I could find the article I found by accident last year as it blasted Baytril. AFAIK, none of mine have had it. I think it is probably safe but seems a lot of animals are allergic. I only posted a few but there are loads of articles about it and it is worrying when there must be alternatives?
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The only problem I had was that Pebbles had a great dislike to it (more so than most tablets), but the vet said it had to be used for one of her last illnesses, somethign to do with the bloods they had done showed certain ones had to be used.
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I saw in one of those articles it shouldn't be used for geriatrics or cats with kidney problems. One of the problems with drugs like this, not all vets are aware of all the contras
"My current recommendations are as follows: First, use Baytril only if another medication would not be suitable to treat the infection. In general, Baytril can be reserved for serious acute or difficult-to-treat chronic infections. Second, whenever possible, use a natural antibiotic-alternative for mild infectious problems, such as some of the supplements recommended earlier in this article. Extra caution is warranted in geriatric cats, especially those with underlying dehydration or kidney disease (the dosage of Baytril in the blood is increased in the presence of reduced kidney function.) In cats, I try to avoid any dose over 5 mg/kg per day, and only use Baytril if absolutely needed for as short a period as possible"
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Pebbles was only 10 fortunately, and bloods showed her organs were fine. Will certainly bear it in mind if any of the others have it recommended though.
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Me too - also the med that Gillian mentioned recently (can't think of the name right now) that the vet gave to Alice. When I asked if it was the drug that shouldn't be given to cats with CRF, he said no >:( - at the time, Alice's bloods hadn't been done - thankfully her bloods are fine but I wonder how many other pets are given meds despite warnings.
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Convenia. my vet has never offered that one, but the rescue's vet seems to offer it for anything, despite it only being useful for 2 things.
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I remember the scares about Baytril causing blindness - ok I've just checked her meds and I've got Baytril 15mg - told to give 1 per day. BUT on the back of the bubble pack where you push the pill out it says 1 tab per 3kg - well Gwyn is half that weight!!! >:(
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And the issue with Baytril is the blood concentration of it >:(
All the sites I looked at said MAX safe dosage is 5mg per day per kg >:(
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I remember querying that too Gillian, my vet told me PEbbles needed a stronger dosage, but I would be querying that tomorrow with the vets.
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Hey guys a vast percentage of all drugs give the contraindication of hepatic/renal problems, they are the main organs assosiated with drug elimination so they have to , often as a precaution to cover themselves.
Another thing esp with antibiotics it can often be a common place recomendation to be able to increase sometimes double the dose in the case of resistant/severe infections. I dont know about baytril personally for that but it wouldnt surprise me.
It is a very good antibiotic though and I am sure the vet will have considered the dosage before prescribing.
Glad to hear she is steadily getting better gillian.
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It is a very good antibiotic though and I am sure the vet will have considered the dosage before prescribing.
Glad to hear she is steadily getting better gillian.
:thanks: thanks Lynn. I still have this worry that once the all the meds finish the symptoms will return.
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I'm glad she's seeming better ;D
I hope everything goes well at the vet's today and that you get a few answers.
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Lynn, Baytril was increased for Pebbles, jsut can't remember why she had it.
Gillian, I hope her symptoms dont come back, do you get more results this week?
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how is Gwyn today Gillian?
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I think either the antibiotics are making her better OR the prednisilone but until exact cause is identified i'm not sure we can tell which.
Hows she doing today ?
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She still seems ok - although I'm worried that her legs maybe arent quite as good today - but I'm probably just noticing every little, slip, slide, wobble etc! She also seems subdued - but that could be the meds perhaps?
I've got an appointment at 5.40 this evening, no word yet on the other results being back, but maybe we might get some come through today, although they did say fip and toxo take a while.
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Yes you will notice everything and in the end your head plays games, I think.
I dont reckon she has either of those and definaetly not FIP. Wishing you lots of luck at the vets and hope that Gwyn is improving and will get better soon :hug: :hug:
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The toxo and FIP tests are in. Unfortunately she is showing a high coronovirus antibody titre - 2,500 which is very high, I know it doesnt mean she's actually got FIP, but my vet is very concerned, and I asked would she have expected her to have high titres, having come from a multicat household (the breeder) into my multicat household, and she said no she wouldnt have expected it, but is not surprised by it, given the possible neurological signs with her legs.
She had a slight temperature tonight too - although we did have to wait nearly 40 minutes in the waiting room, it was warm, and she was a bit stressed because there were dogs there, so perhaps that could be why it was slightly up? - I think she said 103.
Toxo was negative. I've got to continue the antibioitics, Baytril only, don't need the antirobe (that was just in case the toxo) and reduce the steroid to quarter tablet once a day from half and see how things go
I've read and re-read Dr Addies site, but not really taking it all in - I was starting to feel hopeful, but now I'm right down in the depths of despair again, because its just waiting to see what happens.
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I am so sorry about this result and you are right she may not have FIP.
I remember you saying that one of the other kittens died, what was the cause?
I will go and try and plod through Dr Addies stuff later, does your vet know about this site?
My thoughts are with you and little Gwyn :hug: :hug:
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oh, all my fingers and toes are crossed for the lovely Gwynnie, how terrible for you. It must be so hard to take in ... :hug:
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Oh Gilian - I'm really hoping that the coronovirus result doesn't mean she has FIP :hug:
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:hug: Gillian. I don't know anything about this virus but hoping for the best for you & Gwyn :hug:
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:hug: Likewise. A big cuddle for both of you.
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Sorry the news isn't more positive, thinking of you both :hug:
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Thinking positive thoughts for you both :hug: Keep us posted...
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:hug: :hug:
The high titre means little in regards to fip, she could have plain old fcov. Have they considered testing further to compare her other stats as fip cats tend to have certain readings that indicates it.
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Sorry to hear that the titre test was high Gillian, have they recommended further testing?
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Sending healing thoughts to Gwyn.
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Will leave it to others with more experience to offer advice on what may be wrong with our little girl but really feel for you Gillian. Apart from her temperature being a little high, is Gwyn continuing to improve and is she still eating and playing OK?
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Thinking of you, and sending over a new bundle of positive healing vibes for Gwynnie :hug: :hug:
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Hugs and cuddles for you both and heaps more helaing vibes for little Gwyn xxx
I know its difficult Gillian but try to stay positive, thinking of you xxx
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sorry this doesn't seem to be getting anyway fast Gillian, what happens now?
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I remember you saying that one of the other kittens died, what was the cause?
I will go and try and plod through Dr Addies stuff later, does your vet know about this site?
The kitten that died belonged to the breeder who had Gwyn's sister - he had to be pts because of the nutritional deficiency, but only because it took several months to diagnose what was wrong with him, by that time it was too late, if they'd known what was wrong he could have been saved.
I think my vet would know about Dr Addie, she's very cat oriented and her practice is a FAB member, but I'm going to print off some stuff anyway.
MM and Des, yes she recommended testing again, but I don't know when she is going to do that, and thinking about it aftewards, I was surprised she didnt go through the full blood profile with me in the light of these high titre readings. BUT, although I havent seen the blood profile results yet, as she didnt have time to copy them on Friday - I remember her saying earlier in the week that there was 'nothing untoward' about them.
Ros, I panicked this morning because she didnt want to eat and just wanted to sleep, but she perked up as today's gone on, and she had quite a few RC biscuits at about 3pm and was looking around for more! Then she had a little play and still seems quite lively. I would say her legs are about the same, no worse anyway.
I'm worried about every little thing she does (or doesnt!) do. :scared:
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i didnt have time to look at that site last night grrrrrrrrrrrr.
i am keeping all my thoughts for gwyn and the other sick cats and hope that they find out what is causing her problem.
try and stay positive cos that will help her :hug: :hug:
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Thats good her normal bloods are ok. I think the fip ones are seperate to those :-:
Re testing her titre wouldnt achieve much in regards to a diagnosis as it just indicates exposure to corona.
:hug: :hug: :hug: for you and tickles for Gywn
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"she is showing a high coronovirus antibody titre - 2,500 which is very high"
Apology for my ignorance (yet again! :doh:) can someone educate me what could this signify? I am so ignorant about medical conditions... :(
But from what I gather it was no sunny happy news for our dear Gwyn :( :( :( fingers and everything else are still tightly crossed for her, postivie thoughts still being pumped out in her direction... still hoping the tide will be reversed and she will be back to herself somehow soon....
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So what's your vet's take on all this, Gillian? Does your vet think that Gwyn probably has FIP? Or is it just a case of watch and wait? Must be terribly frustrating for you. Lots of :hug: for you and Gwyn.
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To be honest i think fip bamboozles vets never mind anyone else.
For what its worth gillian my aunt has a teenage siamese, she had him as a kitten - took him from a "mate" of hers who had to have her "colony" of pedigrees pts due to fip (more like back of back of backstreet breeder if you catch my drift) The kitten was desperately ill and my aunt nursed it, it had loads of tests and it apparently had fip (i know nothing more than what was said to me by my aunt so very laymans descript!)
Anyway said kitten pulled through but often throughout its life had relapses and got very poorly but perked up with antibiotics :-: Long and short of the story is he's about 14 now and hasnt actually had a relapse for a few years and also had general blood tests not long ago and his organs are fine which is fab anyway a siamese with perfect kidneys etc at that age.
Now i have often questioned the original prognosis and this cat has had blood tests for his titre levels numberous times in his life, they are always sky high when he was poorly and got better when he was ill :-:
So "IF" it was fip he supposedly had or atleast some corona virus associated illness then I just wanted to tell you that 14 years later he's still live and well :)
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My friends bengal was diagnosed with FIP when she was 7 months old and the vet wasnt very optimistic, my friend would not give up on Maisy and nursed her back to health - she was on steroids and antibiotics. She had to go back for test after test and the vets were amazed at how well she seemed. When she was 11 months old they re did the tests and they came back Negative?? She is now 18 months old and absolutley fine.
Wishing Gwyn love and positive vibes and thinking of you Gillian xxxx
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Sorry I haven't posted on this thread sooner but I do read it frequently and wish Gwyn and you Gillian all the best :hug:
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Sheryl, FIP is very often misdiagnosed (the symptoms are similar to a multitude of other problems) most of the tests sent to Dr Addie are not FIP. If your friends bengal had had the virus she would not have survived :(
Lynn, i guess that they went off the titre readings, which doesnt indicate the disease!
Hows she today Gillian?
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how's Gwyn today Gillian, any more news?
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Thanks again everyone for your support :Luv2:
She's actually doing rather well (I'm touching lots of wood while I say this LOL). Her legs are almost back to normal, although they lack the strength they should have and when she jumps down from something her legs tend to give way, but they are getting better every day. Her appetite is really good now and I'm feeding her 4 times a day. She's much more alert and wanting to play.
I think yesterday morning when she wouldnt eat breakfast, she was still traumatised from the vet visit the evening before. She's been through so much and stress is the last thing she needs. I only had to move the cat basket through the house to put back out in the garage, and you could see in her face she was terrified she was going to be carted off again. Antibiotics finish today, still got a few more days with the steroids. I'm really feeling quietly confident that she's going to get better.
Suddenly, last night, she discovered the cat flap! I was on the phone and realised she'd just let herself out (only into the safe fenced bit) - first ever time she's even noticed the flap! I was convinced she wouldnt know how to get back in - but lo and behold a few minutes later, she let herself back in as if she'd been doing it all her life! ;D
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oh the cute little devil and i do hope this improvement will carry on :hug: :hug: :hug:
she may have losty some muscle strength while she has not been able to walk so that might be why she isstill a bit wobbly.
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Sounds promising :) Go Gwynnie :wow:
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Good news, hope the improvement continues and she comes on in leaps and bounds :hug:
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Looking good ;D
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Gillian. Your last post made my day. You must feel so relieved. If she can get in and out of catflap, she must be pretty good.
Way to go Gwynnie. Wow, out AND in through catflap. In a day! It took Freddie a week I think to figure out the way back in. You clever, clever girl.
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Gillian. Your last post made my day. You must feel so relieved. If she can get in and out of catflap, she must be pretty good.
Way to go Gwynnie. Wow, out AND in through catflap. In a day! It took Freddie a week I think to figure out the way back in. You clever, clever girl.
It took Willow 6 years :evillaugh:
It was only when next doors Tom was in pursuit she figured it out quickly :evillaugh:
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Come on Gwynnie sweetheart, keep up these improvements ;D
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So pleased that Gwyn is improving, made my day to read your last post Gillian xxx
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I am so so pleased for Gwyn and you. :hug:
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That all sounds very promising, Gillian ;D Let's hope her progress continues and she makes a full recovery :hug:
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Fingers crossed she continues to improve and the high titre is nothing untoward.
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what a way to learn my lesson about getting insurance renewed in good time :-[ Luckily though my vet is letting me pay bit by bit, phew!
I've justed posted another thread re M&S insurance (I paid monthly) automatically renewing unless you cancel the policy. I don't suppose there is any chance this applies to Gwyn? Thinking about it, isn't she too young for insurance renewal? Perhaps you meant putting insurance in place? I only mention it in the slim hope that it might help.
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Hi Gillian, just popping in to check on little Gwyn, hope she is continuing improve xxx
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I've justed posted another thread re M&S insurance (I paid monthly) automatically renewing unless you cancel the policy. I don't suppose there is any chance this applies to Gwyn? Thinking about it, isn't she too young for insurance renewal? Perhaps you meant putting insurance in place? I only mention it in the slim hope that it might help.
Hi Ros, :thanks: Sadly I hadnt got round to putting insurance in place for Gwyn when her 6 weeks free insurance that she came with, came to an end (the 6 wks free insurance from the breeder isnt automatically renewed). So, I'd been getting quotes, but hadnt made any decision about which insurance company to go with - thinking I had plenty of time, she's a kitten, she's not going to be ill........... :-[
Hi Gillian, just popping in to check on little Gwyn, hope she is continuing improve xxx
:thanks: she still seems fine - everything about her seems as it should be in a young kitten, just apart from the slight weakness she still has in her back legs - but I still have that anxious knot in my stomach because of not knowing if she will continue to improve and be completely better or not.
Going to post a piccie of her I took this morning in the general section, she looks like there is nothing wrong with her at all!
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fingers crossed she continues to get better
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>Gillian :hug: :hug: :hug:
Sending positive and healing vibes to you both~~~~~~~~
>Gwynnie :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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I asked the vet about continuing with the steroids - she'd been having quarter tab each day since Tue, he said reduce dose to quarter tab every other day. Friday was a no tablet day - she wasnt as good, her legs were still ok, but she was quieter, didnt want to eat so much, not playful. Today she ate her breakfast, and had her quarter tablet, she was quite playful after breakfast, but during the afternoon she had really runny poo, then a few hours later again, then she was sick. But later she ate her tea ok. Don't know whats happening, could it be the steroid? missing a dose then having a dose - seems odd to me to do that, messing with her system.
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Poor Gwyn :hug:
I believe that to get off steroids its prob best to do it slowly and not good to be on them for life but also the vet might want to know how she gets on without them, but sounds like maybe not so well.
A real diagnosis is needed .
I di hope things improve for Gwyn :hug:
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Fingers crossed it is nothing, but it is important to be taken off steroids gradually, hence the every other day (same goes for humans as well).
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Des is right about the steriods Gillian, my mum has an autoimmune disorder and when really ill she was taking 8 steriods per day, she is now down to 4 every other day - hope Gwyn is a little better
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More healing vibes for Gwyn
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now is
your our gwynnie today. i hope she is doing well ;D
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now is your our gwynnie today. i hope she is doing well ;D
LOL!
Saturday wasnt a good day when she was sick, but Sunday you would have thought it was a different cat! practically bouncing off the walls! running around, in and out the catflap, playing with ALL her toys! Today also she's been on the go most of the day until about 2 hours ago, then she slept, came down for her tea, and went back to sleep - now am worried again coz everytime she's quiet, well I just worry! I'm not sure whether its the normal kitten play/sleep/eat activity or the see-sawing with the steroids, or she's going to get ill again. I shall need therapy after this :Crazy:
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Therapy sounds about right. Anyone recommend a good head shrink for all of us? :evillaugh:
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Yes I agree we all need one :rofl:
I am sure if its the steroids a pattern will develop but Sunday she sounds just like a normal kitten and now she is probably tired ;D
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fingers crossed Gillian, when are you next back at the vets?
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how's the little babe today Gillian?
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Took Gwynnie for check up this morning. I wanted to make it as calm and easy for her as possible as she'd been so scared the other evening when the surgery was really busy and full of dogs. I'd already got the cat basket from the garage into the downstairs loo the night before, and thought I was acting completely normally so as not to raise suspicions! However, she sussed me totally BEFORE I'd even opened the door to get the basket out - and shot under the settee :Crazy: Thats not an easy move, crouching, stretching arm, pulling out reluctant kitten! Think I've put my shoulder out!!
Anyway, her temperature was normal. She weighed in at 2.1 kg (compared to 1.8 kg) last time (can't remember when exactly, but a week, 10 days or so), so thats really good. Vet is pleased with her progress, but still can't bring herself, as she put it, 'to jump for joy' - hmmm, thanks :-: . She first of all said we could keep her on the steroids for another couple of weeks, at the quarter tab every other day dose, but later said perhaps it would be good to see how she is without them, and can always up the dose againi if neurological signs with her legs again.
Understandably she was a bit quiet after the vets, makes me feel bad as she was doing so well, and it seems like a setback, I feel like anything out of the ordinary for her now is potentially gonig to set her back, or maybe I'm just worrying too much (ha!) :innocent: So today she's due for a steroid tab, and I'm going to give her that one, and then stop them like the vet suggested.
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Poor Gwynnie being so scared :hug:
I hope that this will gradually sort itself out but such a worry not knowing what the cause is.
I used to have such games with Kocka cos she was terrified of the vets and she would listen to me making the appointment grrrrrrrrrr.
I had to cancel more than one cos she went missing and on one occaision I knew she was in the house but just couldnt find her!
She had crawled under a cupboard in the front room that was so close to the floor and only discovered her after I had put the phone down telling the vets she was missing again!
I had searched the whole place and flap was shut, thats how she knew, and after searching each room shut the door and when i sat on the sofa in complete confusion something caused me to look at the cupboard and I thought it was impossible to get under there but I would look anyway........yes one grey face and yellow eyes mocking me ;D
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What a sweetheart! My Dragan climbed inside the settee recently to avoid the vet. He gave himself away though when I was calling him and he answered!" (not very bright). I am sure I must give off some sort of different scent on vet visit days as he knows way ahead of the time. Probably because I am stressed about it too. He still isn't totally sure of me even though his last visit was over a week ago.Hope Gwyn is ok off her steroids. :hug:
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Oh yes, cancelled vet visits quite common in our household - little boogers.
Glad that Gwynnie has gained some weight and had a normal temp, fingers crossed that she is truly on the road to recovery xxx
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It's true, so uncanny how they sense the "danger". Hobbes was like that, whenever I had to place him in a cage for a vet visit I would do all my best to act normal, and cheerily call for him just as normal (so I thought)f, he would quickly skulk away to a hiding spot, instead of hopping towards me like he usually did. I think it has got to do with their sensitive hearing too, they would detect the slightest tension and stress in your voice in these occasion.
My continued well wishes for Gwynn, so she wiill be able to be done with these scary vet trips soon!!
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Fingers crossed she is fine without the meds Gillian, and yep, I have had to cancel apps or turn up late due to cats - the best ones though have been going with scratches that are still bleeding!!
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I'm glad she's still doing well, Gillian. Fingers crossed she continues to do well without the steroids :hug: