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Cat Rescue & Rehoming => Rescue & Rehoming General => Topic started by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on August 06, 2007, 14:29:43 PM
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We desperately need to find somewhere for 3 adult cats and 4 three week old kittens, I doubt very much any of the adults have been done so this will have to be sorted out as well but I'm sure that can be arranged. The lady who owns them has been told by the council that she will be evicted if somewhere isn't found as in now. Mum and kittens will have to remain together and possibly the 2 other adults. If anyone can help, can they please pm me, email or post on thread asap.....my email is on my profile.
Thanks, :hug:
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I'd just like to say (I was going to but it had gone!) that I think most of the thread was a valid one and while it should have been closed its good for people to realise that Rescues cannot joust accommodate everything so I don't think it should have been deleted.
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Dawn if need be I can have one of the adults short term but will be alone most of the day while I'm at work. But at least will have warm place to sleep at night. London way so can find a way to transport. I figure between PB and others here we can find a solution to foster.
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Agree Angie but think that there was too much on the thread that was not relevant and its hard to control that once it gets past that stage. Maybe we can start on a sep thread what Rescues can and can't do, and refer peeps there?
In the meantime hope these little ones get the care they need.
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Thanks Ruth, I'll ask Sarah to give me a ring tonight to get an idea on their characters etc and to see if any do need to be with the other. I hate to split them up if we can avoid it especially if they do really get on, but if it's the only option, that's what we'll have to do. I'll let you know as soon as I get more info :hug:
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that I think most of the thread was a valid one and while it should have been closed its good for people to realise that Rescues cannot joust accommodate everything so I don't think it should have been deleted.
I agree and it would have been nice for Leslie to have seen the support she received.
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that I think most of the thread was a valid one and while it should have been closed its good for people to realise that Rescues cannot joust accommodate everything so I don't think it should have been deleted.
I agree and it would have been nice for Leslie to have seen the support she received.
She saw most of it I think and I have told her, hopefully we can undo the damage that's been done.
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I am sure she has Dawn. We all think highly of Lesley.
Just a thought. Are there any members we could approach who live nearby to see if they maybe have room? They may not have seen this thread yet? We can use the map maybe? Maybe check with Tan if its ok to approach them? Maybe we can find a foster home for all of them together until permie homes can be sorted?
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hi i see my other thread has been closed
just to update on this
the cats havent been put to sleep there may be a chance of them getting in to a rescue tomorrow but its not 100 per cent yet
at the moment my friend has kept them all indoors today with litter trays so no one reports to council that they are still living there .
as for ages ,sexes etc ,theres a mum with babies , a female ,and two males . they are all under 2 years old and sadly none are neutered :'( they dont get on and always attack each other so much so the neighbours told the council they dont get any sleep as they have to listen to cats fighting all night every night , i have told my friend millions of times to get them neutered etc and have always offered to ring the cp for her and get vouchers sent out ( even though they are both working so they should pay really)
i told her to get this cat spayed when she first got her but of course she ended up pregnant straight away , that poor cat has had litter after litter ,she came from an abused home where she was kicked and had one of kittens kicked to death in front of her last year thats why my friend took her in ,its all so sad and could all of been prevented ,as i say ive always adviced her on what she should do but she has never listend to me .
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I texted Sarah earlier and I'm hoping we can get a solution for all this, it makes it easier knowing the cats can be split but the fighting will be down to them not being spayed and neutered. I've asked Sarah to bell me tonight but she has told me, she has no carriers for these babes so whoever takes them will need carriers sorting as well.
Crazycatz, have you got a landline number for Sarah, I only have a mobile number. If you have, can you pm it to me please, thanks.
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I have nearly all the posts from that thread so can reinstate some but it was very upsetting. I have emailed Les and CC.
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I'm so pleased there is hope for these little ones :wish:
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I'd just like to say (I was going to but it had gone!) that I think most of the thread was a valid one and while it should have been closed its good for people to realise that Rescues cannot joust accommodate everything so I don't think it should have been deleted.
I agree angie - I don't like the big brother style so bye all - nice knowing you ;D
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I'd just like to say (I was going to but it had gone!) that I think most of the thread was a valid one and while it should have been closed its good for people to realise that Rescues cannot joust accommodate everything so I don't think it should have been deleted.
I agree angie - I don't like the big brother style so bye all - nice knowing you ;D
I agree to an extent but in this instance I agree that the thread was deleted although some of the posts are valid. A lot of damage can be done when comments are made and they can be taken totally out of context, but by then it's too late to pick up the pieces and the rescue suffers through no fault of their own.
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I agree angie - I don't like the big brother style so bye all - nice knowing you ;D
:Sad Bye:
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Sorry you feel that way Mark. Our job is to keep this forum friendly. Sadly that thread was not going that way.
At least now focus is back on these babies. I hope we can help, really do :hug:
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Sorry you feel that way Mark. Our job is to keep this forum friendly. Sadly that thread was not going that way.
I think Mark was joking, I hope he is anyway :sneaky:
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Sorry you feel that way Mark. Our job is to keep this forum friendly. Sadly that thread was not going that way.
I think Mark was joking, I hope he is anyway :sneaky:
;) Me too
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I have PMed Dawn offering to do my bit with a rescue package. If it gets taken up, I'll probably have to ask for help from various peeps for neutering vouchers, help with perminant rehoming, etc... but I think we can offer these cats a safety net. ;)
Meantime...
Can we all be friends, now? :wow:
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Nah, my fav colour isn't Pink :evillaugh: I think we're on track.
I can help where needed Julie, just let us know.
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I wouldn't go as far as to say I was joking - although it would be hard to leave purrs. However, I was looking up definitions.
Forum - a public meeting or assembly for open discussion
Censorship - The removal and/or withholding of information from the public by a controlling group or body.
I understand that you were on the spot a bit though
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Nah, my fav colour isn't Pink :evillaugh: I think we're on track.
Yeah I'm not partial to Pink myself.
If there is anything I can do up here in Leeds let me know. My OH can be bribed.
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Forum - a public meeting or assembly for open discussion
Censorship - The removal and/or withholding of information from the public by a controlling group or body.
I understand that you were on the spot a bit though
:censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :censored: :evillaugh:
;) yes indeed we were. Though does that mean we have permission to censor you all the time them? :evillaugh:
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No because I will not say boo to a goose in future for fear of punishment :evillaugh:
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Forum - a public meeting or assembly for open discussion
Since you have to sign up for membership to be able to post, this forum is not public.
Censorship - The removal and/or withholding of information from the public by a controlling group or body.
Ah yes, the controlling body that happens to be legally liable if anyone decides to sue. And the controlling body that pays for the server space for this forum.
Point is: you don't like moderator/admin decisions - set up your own forum. Who pays the costs for the forum gets to make the censorship decisions, end of.
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Playing nice nice people....I mean it....
Dawn any news?
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Ok, Can someone write a basic list with ages, sexes and locations of these cats and if I'm given permission I'll cross post the info.
Mark, I'd miss you if you went, you snob! ;D ;)
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I give up :bum: to LMC
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What's LMC? :-: I like the little mooning man, though!
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:Crazy: :Crazy:
Beam me up, Scotty, 'cos I canne take anymore! :shy:
LMC - Mark was being Mark and he wasn't serious and we all knew it.
Mark - If you left, this forum would be so, so dull!
JS - Details of these cats are given in Crazycats last post.
Mods - I am so glad I'm not a mod! :rofl: :rofl:
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Mods - I am so glad I'm not a mod! :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: should try it for a day if only to censor Mark ;)
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Playing nice nice people....I mean it....
Dawn any news?
No news as yet, I'm not even sure she'll phone me but we'll see what happens. When I texted her earlier about giving me a bell, she just mentioned about this guy from the rescue again and that she wouldn't know until tomorrow :tired: If he can't help, I don't want it leaving til last minute, this is when things get cocked up and ideally we need it sorting asap.
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You have my details hun, let me know. I think this can be sorted. Good on you for perservering with her.
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Mark ya almost gave me a heartattack! lol :P
I can put back some posts as i have a copy of them but the main reason the thread was deleted was because it went against our rules to keep this forum on a friendly unhurtful basis and actually naming and shaming another member publically is very hurtful. I could of easily edited the thread to take out all meantions of the member but it would still be there although edited to upset members (all involved). I always advise with any member disbutes to try and discuss and solve the problem in pm's or outside email and if not to contact me to help sort it out if i can. With any forum with alot of people it's so easy to get conflicts esp with only the written word form.
We have to have pretty strict rules on the forum or we may sadly end up the same way as another one. I am def up for adult juicy discussions and i think these are brill for people to air their views and info for others as long as they don;t turn nasty. I agree that some of the thread was useful to show that rescues are overloaded and can't help all the time. I will have a peek at the post to see if there are some i can repost under that sort of heading in the Rescue room.
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I can't help with offering to rehouse the cats or anything but regarding the eviction,nothing can be done by the council until a Notice Seeking Possession has been served and the case has gone to court for the council to get a posession date. Even at that point there is still the chance that the tenant would keep the property if she turns up and presents her case to the judge. An eviction cannot take place without a possession date and an eviction warrant. Without these they can't do anything.
Basically, depending on what stage the council are at there *may* be some leeway on timescales. Obviously people don't want to take risks with the lives at stake so if they can be saved ASAP all the better, but there is still hope for them.
I've pm-ed CC to advise on the way forward and advised take advice from Shelter or CAB. Was going to post this at lunch but didn't get chance. Two things can run in tandem - finding a home for the kitties and finding out how far the council has progressed down the eviction route to give some idea of timescales if a home can't be found soon.
Karen
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Ok so now we all know the cats & kittens are still here & wil be sorted which is starting the ball rollin, but i need to say as .......... stated that her friend had 'unfair' treatment well i say that the treatment dished out on .......... was 'out of line' & i want to see a publich apology on here .
Do ........... think that foklk in rescue are sititng on their backsides waiting for them to phone when they can drop everything & run over & sort out THEIR mess.
No doubt ill get a ticking off for posting this but this is well out of order.
Edited to take out members names fro the members themselves sake as post are on public view.
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I've been out since lunch time so missed all the bits inbetween.
1) I hope ........... is staying with us and does know of all the support she received.
2) I'm glad the animals are still alive and i'm sure they will now be spared thanks to the wonderful people we have here
3) You have to be a member to post here but the public can read more or less all the sections i think
4) Mark could never leave us..he loves us far too much ;)
Edited to take out members names for the members themselves sake re public viewing.
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I've already exchanged a couple of pm's with .............. and I'm sure she is in no doubt that we thought ......... was treated unfairly. We need to concentrate on getting these cats sorted and getting them to safety.
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Im not arguing re the cats/kittens but aslong as theres publich apology to ............ & if she expcets it?
Portsmonth is down cornwall way isnt it
Edited to take out members names fro the members themselves sake re public view.
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Mags, it's not worth the hassle and I think she made her feelings pretty clear in a pm.
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Portsmouth's in Hampshire Mags about an Hour from Southamton. There are rescues around that maybe able to help but i do know that the Southamton CP is full as is the Bournemouth which is about hour and 3/4 drive away. The Portsmouth CP is here http://portsmouth.cats.org.uk/ but seen on catchats page they are full too.
There is also the PORTSMOUTH & DISTRICT CAT RESCUE which i don't know about if full or not.
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What about contacting all the vets in surrounding areas to see if they could offer any solution / short term accom ?
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I would strongly advise them to contact shelter [url][http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/index.cfm/url]
and or Thier local citizens advice berau the council cant just evict them thier is a law and process that must be followed with any eviction and they may be able to help them nip all this in the bud
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I have a horrible feeling we are just wasting our time with this, I've still not heard back from her and I did tell her we were trying to things sorted :tired:
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Well, lets hope it's good news with this thing tomorrow? Maybe that's what she's waiting for?
If not, then I think we start rattling cages. It's a case of waiting, I think.... :shify:
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Got a text off Sarah saying she signed over all her cats last night and she's just kept one. So sadly, we can't help these guys and I just hope wherever they've gone, it's somewhere decent. Thanks to everyone for their offers of help.........you lot really are the best :hug:
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I feel like crying right now. I echo your words Dawn. I hope so too.
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I've texted her back asking where they've gone and she did say she wanted to keep one of the males, but was worried now they've been signed over, she won't have a leg to stand on at getting him back. I've also asked her about getting the one she kept spayed/neutered, hopefully she will. Oh, and she did say thanks for the offer of help.
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Well that's something at least. The thank you that is.
I hope she does well by the one she's kept. :tired:
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Oow..! :scared:
I think if she was as desparate as she appeared, she would have taken us up on our offer of help. All we can hope is that everything is fine. We've done our bit! ;D
I'll start putting the spare room back. Again. :innocent:
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I've sent her my phone number in the hope that she'll give me a bell and I'll have a chat with her. I think sometimes in these cases, it's not so much that they don't love their cats but I think people expect rescues to drop everything and be able to fit them in........Joe Bloggs doesn't realise that we do get full and sometimes it's impossible for us to help :tired:
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They've been signed over to a Rabbit Rescue in Chichester :Crazy: The male she wants back, I can't understand why she signed him over if she wanted to keep him? I thought she was keeping 2 cats :Crazy: Anyway, she's going to get the female done which is good news at least.
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but I think people expect rescues to drop everything and be able to fit them in........Joe Bloggs doesn't realise that we do get full and sometimes it's impossible for us to help
I agree, people think that we are waiting for their phone call. We squeeze in and squeeze in but there does come a time when there is absolutely not a single space even for a flea. If people who come onto forums like this and even our our branch members cannot understand this how on earth can we expect other people to. I know often I am told but I am a member or a relation of a member and they expect me to do something immediately. With us no matter how much we know someone it is the plight of the cat thats is the most important thing. but if you do not have a space there is not a lot you can do but worry until you can do something.
Often I am told I will pay, and I reply you can offer me a million pounds (we should be so lucky) but I still have no room and cannot take the cat in today. Obviously a sick stray would go to the vets to keep until I found room.
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A rabbit rescue? ....Ummm, OK. :-:
Anyway, with regards to both the original poster of this subject and the rescue in question, I PMd both of them, the poster to let them realise I knew how frustrating it was when you felt that someone wasn't offered adequate support and the rescue to let them know that noone thought badly of them and didn't just take the situation on face value. I haven't heard from either of them, but hopefully everyone will be continuing to use the forum without any bad feeling.
I can only imagine how much hard work it is to run a rescue from home - and even imagining it is tiring! ;)
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A rabbit rescue? ....Ummm, OK. :-:
I wouldn't be so surprised. Dawn started off rescuing parrots, and the racket from them while you're talking to talk on the phone to her is really odd. It sounds like she's in the middle of the Amazon... :rofl:
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OMG ..................
its a cat and rabbit rescue in chichester 01243641409 is there number if u want to check
ask to speak to monique
they are decent people who have gone out there way to make room for these poor cats and have been lied to yesterday ,they were told that sarah was signing over all the cats but shes kept a female and gave a male to a friend :Crazy: :Crazy:
sarah is asking for scamps back he is a big fluffy ginger male , but they proberly wont give him back to her
which in my opinion is for the best lets face it if he goes back he will father more kittens the minute she lets him out , he is the father of saffys kittens .
i dont want to appear two faced but i dont think its a good idea for her to have scampy back and dont think its a good idea for her to have any cats in future unless she can look after them properly which she cant .
i saw someone mentioned portsmouth district cat rescue ??
if thats the one which is run by joy and greg then its a big no no pm me if u want to know more
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Sarah's going to try and give me a bell later as she's upset at the mo which is understandable, I'm wondering whether to try and have a chat with the rabbit rescue to see if I can get the male back for her, on condition she gets him neutered......what do you guys reckon? :shy:
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Sarah's going to try and give me a bell later as she's upset at the mo which is understandable, I'm wondering whether to try and have a chat with the rabbit rescue to see if I can get the male back for her, on condition she gets him neutered......what do you guys reckon? :shy:
she wont get him neutered
take it from someone who knows the woman and has know her since april
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Will she get the female spayed....she did say in her text she would?
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Will she get the female spayed....she did say in her text she would?
dont know
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Well we can only help those that want to be helped :tired: I'm hoping she'll ring me and I'll try and stress how important it is to get her done.
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I could send this lady some pictures of injuries suffered by fighting Toms. Or kittens drowned in a river if it helps..? >:(
It's only for the sake of her poor cats that Dawn, myself and others were beavering away off board putting a rescue package together for these fluffy ones. Even up to 1am we were getting PM offers of support and help and making a safety net plan.
So, she wants one of the cats back but she won't agree to castration..? :P to her!
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You've got me worried now. The cat she gave to her friend, did she actually give him to her or is this on a pretence basis? If she is keeping it, is she likely to get him neutered or is that also a no no?
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So, she wants one of the cats back but she won't agree to castration..? :P to her!
The only way I would help in getting the cat back is if he was neutered by the rescue first but if she can't look after him and he's better off elsewhere, then the rescue would be the best place for him so they can find him a loving home.
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It sounds like she's in the middle of the Amazon... :rofl:
Sometimes I wish I was but sadly I think the noise is the closest I'm ever gonna get :sneaky:
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Just received this message off Sarah:
"Hi, thanks again for all your help and concern, I'm allowed Scampy back next week as long as I pay the rescue the cost of a male neutering op, Sarah"
So the good news is at least he's having the chop ;)
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Anyway you can get proof of that from the rescue dawn ?