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Title: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on July 13, 2007, 11:12:51 AM
Hi, folks!  :wow:

I am putting a plug in for some wee kittens I saw yesterday. These kits are pure persian, obviously no paperwork, and are mostly creamy grey or difused tabby coloured. They are presently residing in the RSPCAs East Kent Animal Centre.

As we know, persians require specialised homes and are not to everyone's taste. I feel these babies will either sit there and sit there, or will end up in homes not experienced in persian care.

It must be rare for pure persian kittens to end up in rescue care, so perhaps someone out there might be interested..? The nurse gave me the impression she'd like to get them off her books, so maybe they'll accept a rehoming out of the area if a home check can be arranged and the adopter was a persian expert.

http://www.catchat.org/ekac/cgibin/prview.cgi?id=2007070901

Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Rosiecat on July 13, 2007, 13:10:24 PM
I am too far away but they are   :Luv:  :Luv:

Must stop looking!!!




Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 13, 2007, 15:18:25 PM
Oh my how cute   ;D.......................I wonder if  Gillian will see this..........it maybe too early tho  :(
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: clarenmax on July 13, 2007, 16:13:36 PM
They are stunning  :Luv:  I hope these babes find their forever homes soon with experienced slaves  :)
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 13, 2007, 16:21:02 PM
oooh how tempting - um, do you think Suzie sent these for me? LOL!  ;D
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Millys Mum on July 13, 2007, 16:39:37 PM
Thats one way of looking at it Gillian!
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 13, 2007, 16:42:18 PM
Welllllllllllllllllllllllll, she just may have done  ;D
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: clarenmax on July 13, 2007, 17:06:13 PM
Think she may have  :)
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Mark on July 13, 2007, 17:09:22 PM
oooh how tempting - um, do you think Suzie sent these for me? LOL!  ;D

The thought crossed my mind this morning.

Manston isn't far from me Gillian - I could drop them over  ;)

Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 13, 2007, 19:07:04 PM
The thought crossed my mind this morning.

Manston isn't far from me Gillian - I could drop them over  ;)


Stop it Mark  :evillaugh:

I couldnt really, I mean I never planned to add any more, and its not like I coould ever replace Suzie, and its not like I havent got plenty here to keep me occupied already, and well, kittens, theres all the jabs and neutering, and its not like I'm gonna be paying off my vet bill for Suzie over the past few months any time soon, and anyway - they probably wouldnt let me have a kitten or two anyway, once they knew how many I'd already got - and all those other reasons that I can't think of at the moment as to why I shouldnt LOL!  ;D
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 13, 2007, 19:08:29 PM
You will never ever replace Suzie, she will always be there in your heart  ;D
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: blackcat on July 13, 2007, 19:10:48 PM
sorry gillian, sounds like ythou dost protest too much to me!! And they really are very cute if you think about it. You could be saving them from a horrible fate at the hands of someone who stops grooming them three weeks after the novelty wears off ................ :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Mark on July 13, 2007, 19:24:09 PM
With your pedigree (forgive the pun  :evillaugh: ) they will welcome you with open arms. As blackcat says, the novelty will wear off. a 6 year old will want them like they are a set of dolls and tire of putting ribbons on them in no time.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 13, 2007, 19:29:49 PM
Stop it all of you! I like the one in the far corner.  ;)
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Mark on July 13, 2007, 19:43:46 PM
Sorry they can't be separated  ;)
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: blackcat on July 13, 2007, 19:44:50 PM
Now that is downright cruel Mark - look, you have driven her off line!!!
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: JackSpratt on July 13, 2007, 20:02:37 PM
Well, Gillian maybe that one was sent just for you. :) But only if you feel ready! (For a mad, cheeky rascal of a kitten!)
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 13, 2007, 20:13:37 PM
Dont let them put presssure on you Gillian cos its not fair and you are still mourning Suzie.

Do anything you want in your time only  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: JackSpratt on July 13, 2007, 20:45:49 PM
I agree with that sentiment. On the other side of the coin, if you did feel Suzie sent you one of these kittens then people would be happy that they were going to a knowledgeable home. :)

Whatever you decide, you'll do what's right. :)
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: ChrisB on July 13, 2007, 22:14:18 PM
How tempting are they ? ..... especially as a willing persian slave of many years experience ........
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on July 13, 2007, 22:44:33 PM
Gillian, accepted it may be too soon for you after Suzie....  :hug:

However, there are 6 of these babies left and there has been no interest in a month - I nearly had one slipped into my pocket on the way out..  :-: Gillian, maybe you, or anyone else knows folks involved in persian rescue? These kittens are in the wrong place and the nurse there knows it. I mentioned that I've come across persian fans and she said, tongue in cheek, "Please tell them to come and take these!"

Fingers crossed for these poor mites.  :(
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 15, 2007, 16:04:06 PM
Oh well, its academic now anyway - I made enquiries yesterday, and was contacted this morning, the lady I spoke to wasnt the manager, and she had to check with her. I've just heard from her again, and the manager has said they couldnt rehome a kitten with me due to the number of cats I already have - RSPCA policy (5 other cats would be probably be ok - but 11 wouldnt!) - sort of expected it really. Funny though, Cat Protection were happy to rehome an elderly Persian with me a couple of months ago, sadly she died before I could take her on.

Apparently, 3 have been reserved and there are 3 left.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on July 15, 2007, 16:20:11 PM
Maybe she should get in touch with Chapelhouse, they may be able to offer some guidance - the write up doesn't do them much justice really.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on July 15, 2007, 16:59:24 PM
Gillian, I'm sorry they wouldn't let you have one. You'd have been the perfect meowmy...  :(

I'm glad that at least people are showing interest in these babies. When I went they told me no one was interested. So maybe other people are reading this thread and making enquiries?  ;D

I still can fathom how they ended up in rescue care....  :scared:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: kelly-joy on July 15, 2007, 17:24:24 PM
Oh how adoreable are they. I love persains they are just so cute I still really miss my blue persain I lost last year due to kidney failure. Don't think  let me have one either though as I have to many cats already.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Mark on July 15, 2007, 21:53:10 PM
Sorry Gillian. I have a devious plan  :shify:. Pinkbear could get the kitten and give her to you. If they ever did a follow-up (unlikely) Pinkbear could say "she's at the groomers"  :evillaugh:

Good result for everyone.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on July 15, 2007, 22:04:17 PM
Aw.. sneaky!  :shify:

I doubt they'd let me have a kitten. I doubt I'd pass the home check - you'll see what I mean when you come round for that coffee!  ;) My house is a kind of retirement house - suitable for indoor cats and 'senior kittizens' content with a quiet kip by the fire, or a lazy slump on the decking after dinner. :evillaugh: A youngster would want to get out and about and there's no way they could do that in my location and the RSPCA would see that too.  :(

If i thought I could swing it, I would try, though...   8)
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: blackcat on July 16, 2007, 00:09:43 AM
I could always volunteer - I have the perfect place with a terrace row backing onto another terrace row, gardens all along both sides of the fence and a rear footpath (unused) full of nettles and other jungly stuff - perfect for a wee kitten - would have to be briefed about the care and maintenance of persians though as the only long-hair I have ever owned was Bob and he never needed grooming until his last year (when he couldn't reach the base of his tail any more and his britches started getting a little felted...)
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Bazsmum on July 16, 2007, 01:01:27 AM
arnt they adorable  :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:

I love the tiny one right at the back  :)

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Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on July 16, 2007, 10:00:12 AM
Gillian..? Oh, Gillian...!  :evillaugh:

Look at us, though! Plotting a jail break to spring a kitten!  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Sarah (seldom_use) on July 16, 2007, 10:10:16 AM
They are gorgeous!!

Wish I could get one too..

Persians need to be kept with other Persians only, am I right?

Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 16, 2007, 13:11:38 PM
Hehe! If I thought we could get away with it.......but I wouldnt want anyone to get caught out, I'd feel terrible, esepcially if they DID want to do a follow up, it would put blackcat in an awkward situation.

I was telling my mum about the kittens, and normally she would be saying 'oh no, not another one, don't you think you've already got enough to cope with blah, blah!' - but what she actually said was, 'I don't think you can have JUST one, you really should get TWO together LOL!  ;D

Persians need to be kept with other Persians only, am I right?

Not necessarily Sarah, I've got 3 moggies. I don't think older Persians would be too happy living with a lively breed like the Bengal for instance, but even then, I think if you bring a persian kitten into an existing group of whatever type of cat, it would probably fit in fine.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Rosiecat on July 16, 2007, 13:14:13 PM
My Persian lives very happily with two moglet girlfriends and a very large house bunny.   :)
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Sarah (seldom_use) on July 16, 2007, 13:39:17 PM
Persians need to be kept with other Persians only, am I right?

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Not necessarily Sarah, I've got 3 moggies. I don't think older Persians would be too happy living with a lively breed like the Bengal for instance, but even then, I think if you bring a persian kitten into an existing group of whatever type of cat, it would probably fit in fine.

I went to a rescue centre months ago and there was a beautiful female Persian, about 1 year old. I was petting her and she seemed perfect. I just absolutely fell in love with her. She has some breathing problems but it was all well controlled apparantly. She just seemed like such a little character  :Luv: So I enquired about her and filled out an adoption form (even though I wasn't planning on having anymore cats  :evillaugh:) Anyways, the kind of 'head' women of the rescue told me I couldn't have her bc I had other cats and that Persians need to live with other Persians  :( I was gutted.

I would LOVE a Persian so much <3
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on July 16, 2007, 13:45:53 PM
Methinks you got 'fobbed off', Sarah...  :sneaky:

It could be that the rescue wanted to make sure the cat went to an experienced persian keeper. What better way to ensure that than to tell folks it could only go with another one like itself?
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Sarah (seldom_use) on July 16, 2007, 13:47:07 PM
Methinks you got 'fobbed off', Sarah...  :sneaky:

It could be that the rescue wanted to make sure the cat went to an experienced persian keeper. What better way to ensure that than to tell folks it could only go with another one like itself?

If so Pinkbear I think that's a bit :censored:. I would rather be told than fobbed off  :'(
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Mark on July 16, 2007, 13:49:46 PM
People sometimes talk out of their  :bum: Sarah,

It is probably just a perpetuated myth - dangerous when someone in that postion takes it as gospel though.

A cat's a cat  :evillaugh:

I was trying to see if I could get any info and found this about cat urban myths - a good read  :evillaugh: http://www.messybeast.com/urbancat1.htm
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Sarah (seldom_use) on July 16, 2007, 13:52:12 PM
Mark - My Granny still goes on about the 'sucking the lives out of babies' one  :rofl:

I swear a few months ago she said that she saw it nearly happen once and she had to hit the cat away :tired:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Mark on July 16, 2007, 13:56:15 PM
 :rofl: @ Sarah
It is amazing how people believe Urban myths/Old wives tales.

I have to admit, about 5 years ago one of my collegues told me that KFC were breeding headless chickens and I believed it  :-[
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 16, 2007, 13:58:50 PM
People sometimes talk out of their  :bum: Sarah,

It is probably just a perpetuated myth - dangerous when someone in that postion takes it as gospel though.

Sarah, I agree with Mark, sounds like they just didnt know what they were talking about! What a shame, they turned down a good home because of their ignorance.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: candyshandy on July 16, 2007, 19:29:51 PM
I have 3 persians and tbh I wouldn't say they have to be with other persians but definitely with other cats as they are quite sociable.  The exception to the rule is Mum's blue Oscar who isn't mad keen on other cats and just about tolerates mine when he comes for a 'holiday' :evillaugh:  But, last time he did resort to a bit of nose sniffing with Foofoo so you never know!

One thing I would say is that they should be indoor cats or have access to a safe enclosed space because:

they have poor other animal sense
poor traffic sense
if caught in a downpour would matt really easily which can be painful
easy recognised breed so easy target for thieves

They are gorgeous kittens I wish....
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 16, 2007, 19:34:05 PM
I have 3 persians and tbh I wouldn't say they have to be with other persians but definitely with other cats as they are quite sociable.  The exception to the rule is Mum's blue Oscar who isn't mad keen on other cats and just about tolerates mine when he comes for a 'holiday' :evillaugh:  But, last time he did resort to a bit of nose sniffing with Foofoo so you never know!

One thing I would say is that they should be indoor cats or have access to a safe enclosed space because:

they have poor other animal sense
poor traffic sense
if caught in a downpour would matt really easily which can be painful
easy recognised breed so easy target for thieves

They are gorgeous kittens I wish....

Mine quite often get caught in a downpour - in fact they insist on it LOL! and they don't mat, just as long as you dry off and brush well afterwards its not a problem. I don't agree that they should be kept indoors, there is no reason for this. They love to be outside, just the same as any cat.  I agree about a safe outside space though.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: blackcat on July 16, 2007, 19:39:06 PM
It is amazing how people believe Urban myths/Old wives tales.

There were quite a few members of the Tasmanian Cat Fancy who believed that once a queen had mated with a moggy any future litters might be tainted with the mongrel blood!! I mean I can understand that any pure breed kittens from a mixed litter might be looked at sideways but really! In this day and age and scientific understanding, it beats belief!!
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: candyshandy on July 16, 2007, 19:40:00 PM
Thats what I meant. :)

My three are mainly indoor because I only let them out when its dry (my garden is like a bogpit if its slightly wet!) and also only when I'm at home.  They have loads of mental stimulation inside and of course play with each other too.  I have had the garden cat proofed which means they can enjoy outside but without the dangers mentioned before.

Re the matting - I was more thinking of getting wet and then drying before they got home.  

Fabes loves diving into the bath and I have to keep the loo seat down otherwise he'd be in there too!!  Whoever said cats don't like water were wrong! :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 16, 2007, 19:48:21 PM
Re the matting - I was more thinking of getting wet and then drying before they got home.  

Fabes loves diving into the bath and I have to keep the loo seat down otherwise he'd be in there too!!  Whoever said cats don't like water were wrong! :evillaugh:

Yeh, mine tend to get wet in a downpour and don't think to actually come back inside always to let me dry them off, but it doesnt cause much of a problem with the fur.

My Suzie used to try and get in the bath, and she would always sit by the side of the bath when I was in it, the others Ben in particular, just likes to sit in the rain, daft boy.  :Crazy:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: CurlyCatz on July 16, 2007, 19:50:06 PM
as cute as they are i think if anyone has to stop and think about the costs of owning one, bearing in mind it may possibly need more vet visits than some other types (thinking of sasha mango etc) then they probably shouldnt take one on.

When ever i look at the rgt sites i think up of all the ways under the sun i could take on another grey but in reality i couldnt really afford it even if i did have the room.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: kelly-joy on July 16, 2007, 20:06:24 PM
What a load of old rubbish that persains have to stay with others. When I had my blue boy I had two birmans and a moggy and they were fine. I am fostering a cross persian at the mo and I have 3 ragdolls, 2 birmans and  a moggy as well and they are all fine too. I don't think it matters what other cats you have as long as you have had persians before.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 17, 2007, 00:44:57 AM
. I don't think it matters what other cats you have as long as you have had persians before.

 I have to comment: those who have persians now at one time had no experience of persians, everyone has to start somewhere!
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on July 17, 2007, 00:57:01 AM
I agree with that, Gill.  ;)

I see ads for rehoming animals all the time where it says "Must have experience of this breed", not just with cats but with dogs too! One day, I'd love an old retired Greyhound but all the rehoming ads say "Experience of sight hounds essential".

I think what's needed is to show an understanding of the challenges. The odds of someone turfing up at this particular RSPCA centre, AND having a full appreciation of the responsibilities of caring for a persian kitten are pretty remote, sadly... I was the only visitor to them that day!  :tired:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Annie on July 17, 2007, 01:02:53 AM
Agree with gill and pinkbear..

If everyone insists on people with much breed experience, then finding owners for these cats is going to get increasingly hard.. People will only want/can handle so many, and if no one else gets the chance to own a ped cat and gain experience (as I expect there are a few people who want these cats and will dedicate the time to them) and they continue to insist on it, then I'm afraid the owners just simply won't be there.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Sarah (seldom_use) on July 17, 2007, 01:03:22 AM
. I don't think it matters what other cats you have as long as you have had persians before.

 I have to comment: those who have persians now at one time had no experience of persians, everyone has to start somewhere!

Exactly what I was about to say Gill  :tired:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: kelly-joy on July 17, 2007, 10:47:00 AM
I agree you have to start somewhere. But one thing I do feel is that when it comes to rescue cat its always better to let them go to a home who has had that breed before as they will have more of an insight on what is needed for that breed and that will be better for that cat or kitten who probaly hasn't been treated right and doesn't need to be put in another home with someone who has no idea what is needed and end back in the rescue because of it.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on July 17, 2007, 11:15:54 AM
I agree you have to start somewhere. But one thing I do feel is that when it comes to rescue cat its always better to let them go to a home who has had that breed before as they will have more of an insight on what is needed for that breed and that will be better for that cat or kitten who probaly hasn't been treated right and doesn't need to be put in another home with someone who has no idea what is needed and end back in the rescue because of it.
I agree - when it comes to rescue cats, there may be additional problems either caused by the cat having to be rehomed and being shunted about from pillar to post, or which caused the cat to be rehomed in the first place.  Under those circumstances I think it makes sense to want to rehome to someone who has had experience of the breed before.  Although obviously there are exceptions - not all cats in rescues have problems and if they don't seem to have any issues I see no reason why they shouldn't go to someone who has not had that breed before but has had cats before.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on July 17, 2007, 12:56:31 PM
and the manager has said they couldnt rehome a kitten with me due to the number of cats I already have - RSPCA policy (5 other cats would be probably be ok - but 11 wouldnt!) -

Sorry but that is  :censored: STUPID !

So they wouldnt home a kitten to a wonderful home with an owner with heaps of experience ?
RSPCA are  :censored:

 :censored: :censored: :censored:

Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gillian Harvey on July 17, 2007, 13:45:36 PM
Sorry but that is  :censored: STUPID !

So they wouldnt home a kitten to a wonderful home with an owner with heaps of experience ?
RSPCA are  :censored:

 :censored: :censored: :censored:

And think of this - If I did have say the magic number of just 5 cats, and I was allowed to take on 2 of those kittens. I would then have 7 - which would then make me unsuitable in terms of numbers, to adopt again,  perfect home or not and despite the fact that they'd already homed to me!!!  :censored:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: candyshandy on July 17, 2007, 20:20:20 PM
I adopted my boys from Chapelhouse, they were 3 when I had them.

The only experience I had was Mum's long haired moggie, Purdi - looking after when she went on hols etc.

Fabes and Sol were described as well adjusted and confident so I think she felt they would be ok with me.  I also had to send her a monthly email to let her know how they were etc.

I did tonnes of research on the breed and must have made a good impression when I went over to the rescue cos I brought them home with me that night. :)
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on July 18, 2007, 01:21:40 AM
What , no homecheck?
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: candyshandy on July 18, 2007, 09:14:35 AM
On this occasion no - she did reserve the right to come in the future though and I signed a contract.

You must remember though that I was adopting them on the understamding they were indoor only and I had to give a detailed description of my home and personal circumstances.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: west0405 on July 25, 2007, 01:13:55 AM
 :Luv:

Does anybody know any more about these little guys, have they found homes yet.....

Haven't been on here for ages,(Soooo-ry... OH taken over the computer!)
   
Now look at me I'm smitten!

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Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: ChrisB on July 28, 2007, 10:09:58 AM
Apparently all of these babies have now been homed.
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on July 28, 2007, 11:16:21 AM
 :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: clarenmax on July 28, 2007, 13:17:03 PM
Woohoooo  :cheer: :cheer:, fantastic new  ;D
Title: Re: Pure Persian Kittens
Post by: emzbubble on July 30, 2007, 21:42:57 PM
Aww thats great they have been rehomed, they are adorable!