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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: robjb19 on May 27, 2007, 19:31:29 PM
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Hi I have been trying to find out what breed my kittens have in them as we have been told that the father was a pedigree cat of some kind anyone got any suggestions,
also someone on here just said they look like normal tabbies but with them being grey keep them inside as people seem to have a habit of nicking grey cats because of the rare colour?,
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Your cats are moggies, as you can't prove who the parents were, but there is nothing wrong with moggies. grey cats are rare, and yours are incredibly pretty, but my neighbour has a grey and white and no one has ever tried to nick him (although he is very overweight, and hates being picked up, so they would have a struggle!!)
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I'm proud Mum to two grey tabby kittens aswell ;D I do think grey cats are more 'desirable' but I don't think I'd keep them in based purely on their colour, nasty humans and fast roads are reason enough for that.
Lovely pics :Luv:
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no I fully understand they are moggies and that do's not bother me I am just curious as to what breed they may have in the blood lines as I have been told differant breeds have differant characteristics,
I was not being snobbie as I paid 40 quid for the kittens so I'am aware they are not cat royalty
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ha ha ha i paid £5 for monkey and jasper made his way to me for free.
but both of them think they are royalty and they do get treated like prince's too.
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Blue (grey) cats aren't particulaly rare it's just the dilute form of black so to get a blue kitten both parents need to carry the dilute gene (you can get a blue cat from 2 black parents) so to be perfectly honest I don't think they are any more likely to be stolen because of their colour.
They are very cute kittens though :Luv:
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Team Svartalfheim's -just thought I would say I love your particular breed of cat , 8)
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Thank you, they are a wonderful breed :Luv:
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They r moggies but gorgeous moggies :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
they r so cute :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
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lol forgive me for sounding thick but is moggie the same as tabby?
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moggie means they r not pedigree cats
i personally think moggies are the best :Luv:
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Tabby refers to there markings ... moggy (or DSH = domestic short hair) refers to their breed. Any cat that's not a pedigree (with papers) is a moggy.
Hope that clears it up :)
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We have 2 pure grey one light and one dark and three grey and white and good luck to anyone who wants to steal them they are all bar Floddy the light grey feral and shredders
Love them for what they are not the breed I have 35 moggies and 1 ragdoll and love them all the same!
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They are wonderful, how adorable.
As Lisa said Moggy is a shorterned version for Mongrel but as you can see we use it affectionately for domestic non pedigree cats.
Tabby means the markings on the cat, usually striped cats or spotty cats or marbled typed patterns, no matter what colour.
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Snap sam!
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Hmm I typed a reply and pressed post but can't see it anywhere. Hope I haven't posted it on wrong thread or accidently sent someone a pm lol. Apologies if anyone gets a random pm that was actually suppsoed to be a post on here.
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so dora would be a grey tabby but still a moggie lol
and oscar would be a grey moggie?
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thansk for the pm think I get it now lol,
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Would say Dora is a Grey Tabby and White DSH and Oscar a Grey and White DSH. Can't see any markings on him. But yes pretty Moggies!
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so dora would be a grey tabby but still a moggie lol
and oscar would be a grey moggie?
yep
or a grey domestic short hair
and a tabby domestic short hair ;D
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Is Dora stripy or marbled on her sides? If she's stripy then she's a blue mackeral tabby and white DSH and if she's marbled then she's a blue classic tabbby and white DSH
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Is Dora stripy or marbled on her sides? If she's stripy then she's a blue mackeral tabby and white DSH and if she's marbled then she's a blue classic tabbby and white DSH
i bow to Lottie on this one, she's the expert on these.
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hard to say realy I would say fading stripes , oscar has got some very faint stripes but you would have to look realy close they look more like riples, but any way it snot a big deal, we no they are moggies but just tyring to clear up whats in them just because th rescue swear the dad was pedigree hoped he was a russian blue lol lol lol
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If she's stripy then she is mackeral tabby. A lot of breeds of cat come in blue so the colour won't narrow it down I'm afraid lol.
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o well lol, oscar is growing so fast he's dwarding dora lol hes so strong and very muscla,I think we may need to feed them seprate I think oscar is nicking dora's food
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awwww
the boys are usually bigger than the girls :evillaugh:
yea try and feed them seperate when u arent there to supervise to make sure dora gets her fair share :evillaugh:
im always here to supervise my cats main meals
if i wasnt then only 1 would eat and the other 6 would starve
as my cat molly would eat the lot
she was 5.5kg last time she was weighed and i swear shes got even bigger :innocent:
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ye I will keep an eye on them maybe feed them seperate
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just had a chat I have confirmed the dad is not a pedigree just a blue short hair, think my gf got her wres crossed when she went the rescue lol still gorgous kitties lol
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I was just going to say as cute as they both are they looked "normal" to me.
PS on the same line as non pedigree cats = moggies = domestic short hairs obviously the same applies to long haired but they would be DLH instead.
Be aware also at this time of year kittens can become sexually active fairly young so you may need to get them neutered sooner than the 6 mnths if you notice any odd signs.
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Rob - cats are different to dogs when it comes to breeds, their personality will be what it is, as you dont know who the parents are, and even if dad had been a russian blue, it might not have made any difference to their personality. We had a litter brought in last year, the boys came round within a week, and were rehomed within 2, the female (Shadow) was with us for 4 months!!! I agree with Lynn, I would see if your vet will neuter younger than 6 months with them being siblings, and if not, do be careful with them.
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Rob, they are gorgeous :Luv: :Luv: I would agree that greys are more likely to be nicked than "normal" colour moggies but as already pointed out, there are other dangers out there as well. If you can keep them indoors or provide them with a safe cat proofed garden, that would take away any concerns of anything happening to them. On the neutering front, my vets won't neuter under 6 months, and I usually wait until such time but any :oolala: business will need to be nipped in the bud, and bearing in mind, even when a male has had the chop, he can still be fertile for a few weeks after.
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thanks for the info , i realy didn't want to get them done as osacr is a lovely looking kitten and , I would love to breed him lol but , they are both getting done due to being siblings and the amount of cats that go hemeless each year it would not be fair to add any more to the list
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Rob, thank you for saying you will do them, and I hope when the time comes you do -there isn't just the population issue to consider, but there are health benefits to both sexes by being left unspayed.
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they are both getting done due to being siblings and the amount of cats that go hemeless each year it would not be fair to add any more to the list
You only have to read Mammary Cancer article - a tribute to Blackie Mammary Cancer article in the General section to know why females need spaying, also males need neutering. Not long ago we had 38 unneutered toms tested 35 were FIV+
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They are beautiful :Luv: I think grey (or blue as it's referred to in the pedigree world) cats are a bit rarer than other colours but not terribly unusual. It is a lovely colour though. I think gene pools can be quite localised as in some areas there seem to be lots of ginger females but in others they seem much rarer. Some people might consider a grey cat more valuable and think they can get more money for one than for a regular tabby so I suppose they run a slightly higher risk of being stolen.
I'm glad your'e going to get them both neutered, beautiful as they are. We all have lovely looking cats but if we bred from them all there'd be even more homeless cats around :(
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just had a chat I have confirmed the dad is not a pedigree just a blue short hair, think my gf got her wres crossed when she went the rescue lol still gorgous kitties lol
How would the rescue know anyway! They are gorgeous :Luv: :Luv:
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They are cute, Dora is a little love.
I have a grey tabby too and let him outside, Im not going to say the next line, that would be risking my chances ;)
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i meant to say earlier, you dont have toddlers in your house by any chance do you ? If so i wonder why you didnt name her brother diego :evillaugh:
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I kove blue cats and they are cute.
It will be interesting to see them when they are older but I reckon a bristish shorthair has benn involved somewhere ;D
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the rescue know the people that handed the kittens and mother over as shecouldnt cope the mother then went back to the owner and the kittens to us,
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Doesn't mean that they are right with teh father though - females can mate more than once, it improves their chances of being pregnant. So unless the cat was indoor only wtih only one entire male, it could be anyone. What colour was the mum cat?
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from what my gf says white and brown
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just had a chat I have confirmed the dad is not a pedigree just a blue short hair, think my gf got her wres crossed when she went the rescue lol still gorgous kitties
I am very surprised that the rescue did not ask that the little ones were neutered/spayed. All the rescues I know explain why cats need to be neutered/spayed. But at least you are now going to get them ’done’. If when the time comes cost is an issue Cats Protection give vouchers towards the cost. If your local branch won’t help you although there is not reason for them to refuse. Please let me know.
but there are health benefits to both sexes by being left unsprayed
I know what you mean but I read it as it as it is best not to spay. which I know is not what you mean.
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I have to grey Classic tabby Grey Moggies and I think that the are rarest cats in the world ..well to me anyway :rofl: :rofl:
I love Grey cats and i love tabbies so what a better combination for me ..I hve to say that DORA is gorgeous !!
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Try to get them neutered/spayed at five months. I do hope that you weren't hoping that they have pedigree in them in order to breed from them. I hope I've misunderstood you.
They'll make lovely pet cats for you and your gf, and moggies are, in my opinion, vastly superior to pedigrees - more personality. All my cats have been moggies and proud of it! ;D
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Rob hows it going with dora peeing on the clothes and carrier bags etc ?
i hope shes using her tray now :evillaugh:
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pedigrees - more personality
I think that must really depend on the individual cat, i have both and my extrovert pedigree has an abundance of personality that my moggies present and some past havent had in the same scale. like all individuals though they all have strengths and weaknesses in different areas i suppose.
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Try to get them neutered/spayed at five months. I do hope that you weren't hoping that they have pedigree in them in order to breed from them. I hope I've misunderstood you.
They'll make lovely pet cats for you and your gf, and moggies are, in my opinion, vastly superior to pedigrees - more personality. All my cats have been moggies and proud of it! ;D
I think moggies are better looking than most pedigrees ( except bengals :evillaugh: they r gawwwwwwwwwwwwwjusssssssssssssssssssssssss)
ive never had a pedigree cat and never will have one so i cant comment on the personality really
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I used to be good friends with a woman who had a blue russian. It was the most peculiar cat I've ever met, especially when it was a kitten - all legs and long body. It grew into a hauty, stand-offish cat.
Unfortunately, the friend had a baby later, and was all baby talk :innocent: :tired: I preferred it when we talked cats and men! So the friendship deteriorated. :cheeky:
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I used to be good friends with a woman who had a blue russian. It was the most peculiar cat I've ever met, especially when it was a kitten - all legs and long body. It grew into a hauty, stand-offish cat.
Unfortunately, the friend had a baby later, and was all baby talk :innocent: :tired: I preferred it when we talked cats and men! So the friendship deteriorated. :cheeky:
:rofl: I would rather talk cats and men over babies any day! ;)
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thats actually odd you say a russian blue hippy..i have known 2 or 3 of them, 2 stand out in particular as VERY odd cats and both their owners (man & woman) SOUNDED like the cats and personalities matched identically LOL. I could forgive one cat as she was not too greatly controlled hyperT (as was the owner im convinced LOL)
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There is a women down the road who owns a russian blue weird looking thing it is and not to be messed with ..kind of scary looking !
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I dont think a cats personallity can be judged by its breed, its more the way a cat is treated. All my cats are mogs and all have different personallitys, A cuddly one, a quiet one, a slusshy one and a little s**t! But they are all cute in there own little ways, they are like people but dont have the nastyness in them. ;D
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I dont think a cats personallity can be judged by its breed, its more the way a cat is treated. All my cats are mogs and all have different personallitys, A cuddly one, a quiet one, a slusshy one and a little s**t! But they are all cute in there own little ways, they are like people but dont have the nastyness in them. ;D
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yea they r little people in fur coats :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
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I've never met a cat without bags of personality. I think what we mean when we talk about a cat having personality is that that cat has personality traits we like. And that will be different for each of us. One person's lively and fun is another person's destructive and annoying, one person's chilled out and loving is another person's boring and stand offish ;D I certainly wouldnt say pedigrees don't have as much personality as moggies - anyone who says that has never met Mosi! Totally bonkers but sweet natured with it.
I would rather talk cats and men over babies any day
Drop the men and I'm with you! Men aren't really that interesting to talk about (apologies to male posters!) but cats are an endless source of fascination.
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Exactly Susanne, they are all different in there own little ways, like people. ;D You cant say the difference between mogs and peds because they are all
cats little people in there owners eyes.
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I think mosi and cody would be rather similar, BUT ...... nooooooooooo way could i put up with a mosi alarm clock :rofl: :rofl: Mind you cant see you puttin up with cody bed wetter :evillaugh:
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hi no the reason I was asking about potential pedigree is not because of breeding purposes purely curiousityand I wondered about the personality of breeds wondered if they were like dogs, I don't know much about cats hence being here lol,
also dora has calmed down a bit not as amny accidents , And she has become a lot freindlier I made a big fuss of her yesterday tried to make sure she feels safe and not scared,
thanks
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Your quite right to ask and be curious, Some breeds do display fairly "unique" traits to that breed, thats certainly true of the "laperms" anyway which is what cody is.
Many of us here have had indepth chats in these types of subjects so your not alone in your interest.
I'm glad dora settling, perhaps she does just need a wee bit extra security just now... You never did say where you got her name from ?
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lol of the kids porgram dora the explore because thats exactly what she do's lol,
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AH HAAA..i was right LOL..if ya scroll down a few posts i asked that and wondered why diego (dora's cousin) wasnt the name for oscar..I have a two year old in the house :evillaugh:
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I think mosi and cody would be rather similar, BUT ...... nooooooooooo way could i put up with a mosi alarm clock :rofl: :rofl: Mind you cant see you puttin up with cody bed wetter :evillaugh:
Too right!