Purrs In Our Hearts - Cat Forum UK
Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: fluffybunny on November 02, 2013, 08:08:08 AM
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Just getting ready to get him to the vet as soon as they open. No idea what he might have eaten or what else might have happened, but he came into the bedroom yowling in the middle of the night and then leaked a trail of diarrhoea across the room. He's been asleep under the bed ever since. Having gone downstairs this morning I've also discovered a large pile of vomit with his collar in the middle of it?? How on earth (and why) did he feel the need to pull his collar off, or why did it fall off jus then, I just can't work it out.
Feeling really anxious, he is clearly not a well boy right now :-(
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Oh poor lamb :care: :care: :care: and how upsetting for you FB :hug: :hug: :hug:
Very much hope the vet is able to help Geoffrey and calm your nerves. I would be anxious too in your shoes not knowing what on earth happened. Don't forget to check collar out thoroughly. Assuming "break away", check that it does what it should in that respect and check for any marks around Geoffrey's neck. Probably nothing to do with collar at all (as I can't see how the collar could cause runny poo) but it would upset me seeing it next to where he has been sick.
Sending every best wish :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Thanks Rosella. Geoffrey had a temperature of 40 and a very sore tummy so she thinks he has picked up some kind of infection. He has had antibiotic, anti emetic and anti inflammatory all by injection and is already a little perkier. He has had a spot of sensitive food for lunch which has stayed down so far.
I remember now that yesterday I was tinkering with their collars putting their new loc8tors on them, so I think I must have not done the clip back up properly and when the poor lad was having a proper retch, it pinged off. Fingers crossed my little man gets back to his normal perky self very soon.
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Do hope he recovers quick :hug:
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How is Geoffrey?
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Initially he perked right up and was fine up until about lunchtime today, but since then he has slowly been going downhill again :(. He doesn't want any food and is just sitting around licking his lips (is that a sign of nausea?) and looking generally flat eared. I am wondering if the injected meds he had yesterday perked him up but when they wore off he has started to dip again.
If he is still poorly and refusing food in the morning I think I will have to take him to the vets in my way to work and leave him there. She did say yesterday that he might need to be put in a drip if he couldn't keep any food/drink down. I don't think he had vomited today but he certainly hasn't eaten since late morning and is very definitely not himself.
Fingers crossed whatever it is will pass swiftly, I hate seeing him so poorly and it scares me when they get like it too :(
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Geoffrey and Fluffybunny :hug: I do hope that the little chap is soon back to normal.
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Sending lots of positive vibes for Geoffrey and :hug: :hug: for you.
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:get well: Geoffrey :care:
Hope he perks up soon :hug:
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Sending lots of good vibes for Geoffrey and hoping that he's much better soon. :hug: :hug:
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Thanks all - Geoffrey is much better this morning. I woke up at 5am to find him sitting on me, and he has eaten some breakfast and had a drink. He's still not totally himself but certainly better, so I feel happier knowing he had had some food and water, and I even managed to get both tablets down him :Crazy:
Incidentally, is the forum playing up for anyone else? I have lots of barcodes floating about in the background and no 'reply' button...I had to quote and then delete the quote, as I couldn't find any other way to answer the thread!
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Am so pleased Geoffrey has perked up, and hope he continues to feel much much better. ;D :Luv:
Not had any problem with the forum, so hoping yours has settled down now. :hug:
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Fingers crossed that Geoffrey continues to improve. :hug: :hug:
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I am so glad to hear that Geoffrey is more like his usual self today ;D
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Topping up the hugs for Geoffrey this morning, and hoping he's back to his normal self, bless his paws. :)
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Thanks all. Geoffrey seems to be much more back to his normal self now. Antibiotics are still being chucked down his throat so hopefully he will stay well once they've finished. We did discover a half chewed wild rabbit in the garden which a fox had obviously had, so we wonder if Geoffrey had tried to have a chew as well :sick:
Still having odd forum display issues but only on my iPad! Very curious.
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So pleased Geoffrey is feeling more himself ;D ;D
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*sighs* he has now gone back downhill again :'( he's still relatively ok in himself, but he really hasn't eaten much today and has done a big diarrhoea splat in the litter tray. OH has been at home today and said that he threw up a couple of times earlier (and one time his collar pinged off when he did it), so it seems as if either the infection hasn't gone or it's something else going on. I'm in London on a conference tomorrow so I'm going to have to see if I can get a late appointment that I can get back in time for. My poor little man, I wonder what's up with him :'(
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Am so sorry to hear this. Poor little feller. Am sending lots of love his way, and hoping you can get to the bottom of what's going on with him. :( :hug:
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:( :( That's not the news I was hoping to hear. Sending good vibes for Geoffrey.
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Poor little chap! Please let us know how you get on at the vet's :hug:
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Hope it's nothing untoward and that he starts to turn the corner soon :hug:
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...annnnnd this evening he is perfectly normal again, demanding dinner as normal *rolls eyes*. I can't get an appointment with the good vet until Saturday so I have booked an appt for then to check him over fully one way or the other.
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Phew maybe the treatment is kicking in :hug: :hug:
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Normal service has definitely resumed this morning, he has finished his breakfast and then pushed Milly out of the way to try and finish hers too :rofl: for once I didn't mind...although I'm sure Milly did!
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well, am very relieved to hear that, but know how worried you must be feeling as to what's causing these episodes.
Hoping the vet may be able to shed more light on what's going on. meantime, topping up the snoozles for Geoffrey. :cat rub: :cat rub:
Just saw your updated post. :evillaugh: There are times when norty behaviour is just Ace! :hug:
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So pleased ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks - I think he must have just picked up a particularly nasty tummy bug as it seems to have settled down at both ends now and he is about 95% back to normal. Maybe still just a little pickier than normal over his food but appetite is back including stealing Milly's food and trying to eat my pudding earlier! Have an appt at 9.15 tomorrow to get him checked over, hopefully his temperature will be back to normal and his tummy all feeling normal too.
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Well that took longer than anticipated, my appointment was 9.15 and I've only just got home :Crazy:
This morning Geoffrey was sick again and there was more diarrhoea in the litter tray although he is behaving normally and asked for his breakfast as normal. When my vet had a good prod about she thought that his kidneys felt exceptionally tender so I left him there for an hour or so while she ran some bloods (went and did my grocery shopping!) Bloods came back mostly normal with the exception of creatinine which was high and white blood count was low end of normal - but we looked at his previous pre-op bloods and both the last two sets have also had low WBC so that might just be normal for him. Kidney definitely isn't though. So she has given him a convenia injection to cover for a kidney infection and I have to try and get a wee sample for Monday. She said if he isn't 100% back to normal by 2-3 days then she wants to take him in and scan his kidneys. My poor little man - fingers crossed the convenia does the trick!
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Oh dear, that's not the good new I was hoping to hear. :hug: Sending shedloads of positive vibes for Poor Geoffrey.
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Oh dear, that's not the good new I was hoping to hear. :hug: Sending shedloads of positive vibes for Poor Geoffrey.
Me too. :hug:
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keeping fingers crossed and sending loads of healing vibes for Geoffrey :hug:
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That's an unexpected worry :hug: Fingers crossed it's a red herring and he makes a swift recovery :care:
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That's an unexpected worry :hug: Fingers crossed it's a red herring and he makes a swift recovery :care:
Seconded :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Hope Geoffrey is recovering now :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Topping up the good wishes this morning for Geoffrey :hug: :hug: How is he today?
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Topping up the good wishes this morning for Geoffrey :hug: :hug: How is he today?
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Good today, thank you :wow: got home from work and the collar is still on so there obviously haven't been any massively vomity incidents (haven't found any presents yet :shify:) and he's busy hoovering up every crumb of food he can find, which is very much normal behaviour. Now sitting on my lap getting in the way while I'm trying to do some work.
If this continues I suspect the 'right' course of action would be to do another blood test once the convenia is through his system, and hopefully it will show his kidney levels back to normal...
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I hope that he is truly over his illness now and that the kidney findings are back to normal when they are next tested. :hug:
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Very much back to normal this evening...being a complete pest :rofl: just as I was getting ready for bed he decided to climb on the sink, open the cupboard and try and get inside :naughty:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v117/AlisonA/image_zps5f2509d0.jpg)
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:evillaugh: :evillaugh: I just love norty cats. It's a sign everything is working as it should. ;)
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Aww bless him :Luv: :Luv:
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Been back to the vets today, Geoffrey still isn't quite right somehow. D&V have stopped and he is eating and drinking normally, but he's just got that slight look in his eye that tells me that he's still not 100%. So now he's locked in the bedroom with me in an attempt to extract a urine sample overnight. I had him in my home office with me and a litter tray all day today and he wouldn't oblige before we went to the vets, so instead he's no doubt going to keep me awake all night scrabbling at the door :evillaugh: wish us luck, I dread to think how many days this is going to take, as I need to leave for work before 8, and I bet he'll go at about 8.10...
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:-: Doesnt sound so good FB. Got everything crossed you got the sample you needed and didnt have too much of a disturbed night. :crossed:
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Surprisingly quiet...lots of nice cuddles :Luv: even better, I have a wee sample! I was just about to give up so I tipped all the plastic balls out of the litter tray and I was just getting ready to put it back in its normal place and refill it while I'm at work, and he wandered into the empty tray and duly produced a sample. So at least I have a nice fresh one to give to the vet first thing.
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I do hope that you are able to get to the <ahem> bottom of the problems and that your lovely boy is soon back to his normal self.
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Soooo the results are in, and there is blood and protein in his urine. She did say that it doesn't look like renal insufficiency (something about the concentration being right?) and there weren't any crystals so that's good news, but he's going in on Friday to have an ultrasound of his kidneys and bladder to see if they can get to the bottom of what is going on and where. At least he is ok within himself, but I'm still worried...he just has that slight look on his face which tells me that all is not quite right.
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Geoffrey is lucky to have a slave who knows him well enough to understand when something is not quite right. That will stand him in good stead as any treatment needed can be got underway sooner.
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Loads of good vibes for Geoffrey :hug: :hug:
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Well done you for going by your gut instinct. Also topping up the vibes for Geoffrey and hoping that they can find out what's causing this. :hug: :hug:
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Sending good vibes for Geoffrey.
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Well Geoffrey is home from his scan. There is something up with his right kidney, it looks very thickened and the middle bit looks very small and uneven. There aren't any obvious lumps or cysts, but something is clearly not right. Left one looks fine and bladder looks fine. My vet is on holiday for a fortnight now so we have 3 weeks worth of antibiotics and hope that it is 'just' a particularly nasty kidney infection, I will do another urine sample in a couple of weeks when she is back, unless of course I am concerned in the meantime. If this doesn't make any difference then he will probably need a biopsy, so please everyone cross fingers that the longer course of antibiotics work well!
Poor Geoffrey has shaved sides too. She said they can normally just do it from a shaved belly but because he has...additional padding...they weren't getting a good enough view.
He's glad to be home for now!
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Poor Geoffrey :care: Lets hope that the antibiotics help things and that it is 'just' an infection :hug:
Riley says Geoffrey is most welcome to join his furless gang, it's all the rage nowadays don't you know :hug:
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Aw bless Geoffrey. Must be very worrying for you FB, but hoping the AB's do the trick, and he'll be back to normal very soon. Sending him lots of snoozles and shaved bits dont matter - all the footballers sport them, and what's good enough for Riley is good enough for all of us. ;) :hug: :hug:
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Here's hoping the antibiotics do the trick and Geoffrey is back to 100% soon.
It's so worrying when the furballs aren't their normal self.
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I hope Geoffrey will be OK again soon :hug: :hug: :hug:
Napoleon lived with one working kidney for at least 3 years maybe longer, I dont know cos it was only discovered when he was ill with something else and it was pea sized.
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Back to the vets again this evening, he still isn't right. He vomited a few times on Monday, not at all yesterday and then once this morning, and his eyes still look a bit glazed. He's kind of ok in himself but not quite the greedy constant-bugging-for-food pest that I'm used to. I'm not sure if this is what I should be expecting or not if it is 'just' a particularly nasty kidney infection. Could the antibiotics be causing the vomiting and actually he is getting better underneath?
I'm going to try and get another wee sample before we go tonight (don't fancy my chances though!) Can anyone suggest anything else they think I should be asking for right now? I'm just worried about my poor little man :'(
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Am so sorry Geoffrey's not back to his properly normal self, and will be thinking about you at the vet visit. :hug: :hug:
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Hope the vet can sort this out asap :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Sorry to hear this, fingers crossed for tonight :hug:
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Well highs and lows - the good news is that his creatinine levels are back to within normal range, but he has lost 400g in the past 11 days :Crazy: So she's running a pancreatitis blood test and will let me know the results tomorrow. He had one the first time he had the bloods taken and it was clear, but because there was about a week between his first visit and the first bloods, she thinks it's possible that he had an episode which had cleared by the time we ran the bloods and has now had another one so thought it worth repeating. I'm going to try and get a urine sample overnight too.
She's also given him an anti-nausea injection which won't last all that long but we thought it was worth a go to see if that perks him up overnight as he's clearly feeling nauseous - and even more so now after the car journey to the vets and back. Of course it's always possible that the antibiotics themselves have been working to clear the kidney infection hence those bloods returning to normal, but they have also made him feel poorly. I just want my poor little man back to normal :'(
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:hug: :hug: :hug:
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Of course you do. :hug: :hug: Keeping fingers crossed that the results will indicate what's been going on, and get Geoffrey back to full health again.
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No wee overnight, plenty of diarrhoea though. I remember now, the vet said yesterday that he had a very gurgly tummy, so when he went and hid when we got home from the vet he probably just had a very nasty tummy ache. I don't think it has all come out yet but some of it has, so I think he is starting to feel a bit better. He's eaten a little breakfast and has now gone back under the bed :(
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Sending very gentle snoozles for Geoffrey's poorly tum this morning. :hug: :hug:
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:( :( Poor Geoffrey. Sending lots of get well vibes :hug: :hug:
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Poor little chap, he is having a rough time :( ! I do hope that he soon starts to feel better. :hug: for both of you.
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Sending loads of get well vibes to Geoffrey :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Thanks all. OH has stayed at home with him today and says he has perked up a bit, so that's good. Vet rang, the pancreatic blood test was normal, so she suspects that it's the abx he has had for the infection which have upset his tummy. She's given me some anti-nausea tablets and some probiotics so fingers crossed it's 'just' that the aggressive abx to treat his kidney infection have upset his gut flora. I do feel happier knowing that his bloods are heading back to normal at least. Thanks for all the good wishes x x
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Hope all this sorts him :hug: :hug:
Please can you tell me what probiotics were given
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I've finally been allowed to get up :evillaugh: they're protexin synbiotic, I've had them before I think, they sound familiar anyway. Geoffrey seems more cheerful this evening and is actually asking for food, so that's progress too :wow:
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Are they capsules? Thats what Lupin had but online they are now saying dogs only :Crazy: :Crazy:
They were brilliant and Lupin had been ill for months
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Very pleased that Geoffrey seems to be much brighter. Long may it continue. :) :hug:
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Are they capsules? Thats what Lupin had but online they are now saying dogs only :Crazy: :Crazy:
Yes that's them. I'm so used to using things off licence for the bunnies that to be honest I never really bat an eyelid at using a product aimed at a different species...I suspect that it's something to do with a technical paperwork requirement rather than a 'real' reason they're no longer suggesting use in cats on their bumpf. Have you ever contacted them to find out why? I've just done a quick google search on the bacteria in it and although this is a biased article, it does say (and cite) that multiple studies have shown its benefits in both dogs and cats http://www.purinavets.eu/uk/no-messing/PDFs/related_articles/PVD_2.13.8_FF_KOL_Newsletter.pdf and purina sell fortiflora for cats which contains the same bacteria, so personally unless there was a jolly good reason otherwise, I'd probably just carry on using it anyway :shify:
Geoffrey is quite cheerful this morning, he spent all night right in the middle of the bed with me desperately trying to get comfy around him.
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Attaboy Geoffrey! :briggin:
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Thank you for that info, so helpful. 2 yrs ago it was for bothe cats and dogs and suddenly it changed, so guess you are right ;D ;D
So pleased that Geoffrey is improving :hug: :hug:
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I bet this explains the change:
http://www.protexinvet.com/pet-health/362/general-faqs Scroll down to 'what makes a good probiotic' and it says that " Within the EU all probiotics must be registered for use in an individual animal species. For example, Enterococcus faecium (NCIMB 10415) E1707 is registered for use in dogs."
So I reckon a few years ago there was a change in EU regulation as above, and while this particular strain of bacteria is registered for use in dogs, it isn't for cats so they aren't allowed to claim on the labelling that it has health benefits for cats even though actually nothing has changed in practice. If the same is true here as it is with rabbits which it probably is (especially given all the literature about the use of c.faecium in cats) it's nothing to do with safety, but probably just the cost/faff is prohibitive for them to bother registering it with cats so they rely on people using the prescribing cascade for its ongoing use.
Geoffrey is better still this evening :wow: and he's being a pest for food again. I can only imagine that this past week he has felt like he has had food poisoning, but he's definitely on the mend now. Fingers crossed it stays that way!
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Thank you ;D
Hope that Geoffrey is feeling loads better ;D
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Good news....keeping fingers crossed ;)
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Geoffrey is better still this evening :wow: and he's being a pest for food again. I can only imagine that this past week he has felt like he has had food poisoning, but he's definitely on the mend now. Fingers crossed it stays that way!
Very pleased to hear this ;D
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My boy is very definitely back :wow: his eyes look normal again now and normal service constantly whining for food and attention has resumed :evillaugh: Protexin are definitely wonder pills! Still haven't managed to get a wee sample though, he's cottoned on to the fact that he gets shut in with me at night and if he holds on long enough he will get let out in the morning to do his wee without having to use the plastic balls. As he sprays up the back of the litter tray I'm wondering whether I could tape the wee pot up the back corner and see if I can get it filled that way :shify:
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If you tape some cling film to the back wall and drape it into the litter box could you collect a sample that way?
So pleased he's feeling better, its such a worry when they're sick. :hug: :hug:
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Oooh now there's an idea...I will need to be able to have it up off the base of the box as otherwise Milly could potentially wee on it, whereas if I fashion something like a bib a bit higher up, only Geoffrey will wee there. Think I'll go and have a play and see what I can get to work :wow:
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So very pleased to hear that Geoffrey's bounced back. :wow: :wow:
Good luck with the wee sample. :) :hug:
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I've been desperately hunting for some :censored: Sellotape to create my wee catch-pit, which is something that hasn't emerged from moving house yet...and while hunting yesterday evening, sir strolled into the litter tray and did a giant wee. I tried to pop a little tub behind him but as he squeezes it up the wall, I didn't manage to catch any. So still no wee sample, and a freshly emptied bladder!
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Sorry but :rofl:
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Sorry but :rofl:
And I confes to a little giggle here too...... :shy: :evillaugh: :hug: :hug:
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Right, I've rigged up my wee-catcher...I wonder if it will be full by the morning :rofl:
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May your cup be full, as they say...... :naughty: :hug: :hug:
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HA! Why didn't I think of this sooner? Great idea, sheilarose!
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:evillaugh: The woman is genius!
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Hurrah! ;D
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Excellent news - sample is clear, no blood or anything in the sample, so hopefully everything can now go back to normal :wow:
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Brilliant news, FB. Well done on you inventiveness, and bless Geoffrey's paws, may he never look back or be troubled with this again. :hug: :hug:
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great news ;D ;D
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Geoffrey is very much back to normal...here he is enjoying his favourite spot :rofl:
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That is good news! :briggin:
Such a handsome chap he is :Luv2:
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