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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: forever_missing_my_boys(Lisa) on April 27, 2007, 16:45:51 PM
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Im always hearing people say "oh he sleeps in the kitchen at night "
or "we keep him in the kitchen while we r out "
or " he isnt allowed in the living room because of our new sofas "
what i dont get is why on earth would u let an animal sleep in a kitchen where food is cooked and served
yet not let the animal in the living room where people just sit and watch the box
as ive said before all my animals are totally banned from the kitchen FULL STOP !
i use to allow them access to the kitchen when they wanted but the hairs i found on the worktops etc was just not hygenic imo
last feb we had a brand new kitchen fitted and from then onwards not one paw has set foot in there
im very particliar about hygene and like my kitchen clean and germ free and basically immaculate
i find the idea of an animal dog/cat sleeping in the kitchen awful!
and as for having a litter tray in the kitchen :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: thats too much :sick: :sick: :sick:
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Our boys are allowed everywhere ... its probably more unhygienic having me in there than them.
I would consider myself a bit of a cleanfreak in the kitchen, but I wouldn't shut them out.
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All I can say is Peewee always slept in the kitchen and we are all still alive and healthy. I always have a water bowl in the kitchen and my cats are allowed in and out as they please. All our to surfaces are thoroughly cleaned before any food preparation.
st feb we had a brand new kitchen fitted and from then onwards not one paw has set foot in there
im very particliar about hygiene and like my kitchen clean and germ free and basically immaculate
I had a new kitchen last June and we consider ourselves very hygienic, Also when we had our Boy (Badger) we used to leave the back door open for him to nip in and out. My husband was forever washing the kitchen floor, but he didn't care as long as our boy was happy.
and as for having a litter tray in the kitchen thats too much
You wouldn't want to come to our house then.
To be honest I expect family's with children have just as many hygiene probs and those with only pets, you know what kids are like and where there hands go.
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Blimey if i kept my cats out of the kitchen i would spend 1/2 my life trying to do just that, the crafty sods! I just make sure before i prepare any food, i give the surfaces a good clean down. The cats tend not to walk over the surfaces anyway, just the 1 by the sink to get to the window to be nosey
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Mine are shut out of the kitchen as I don't like the idea of cats on worktops. If they do go in the kitchen (due to Bilbo opening the door and coming in if we are in there for a long time) it is only for a few mins and obviously we are in there too and they don't go on the worktops. Bilbo only goes in so he can sit in front of the washing machine in case we switch it on for him as he adores watching it lol.
I fully agree about litter trays in kitchens, I think it's horrible. I keep mine in the bathroom as it seems a sensible place if you think about it. My friend was highly amused when she was babysitting the cats for me and went to use the human 'litter tray' and Bilbo followed her in and went in his tray lol and Tigger just sat and watched them both to make sure everyone flushed and covered :rofl:.
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Max is allowed all over the house, he lives there too and is an indoor only cat anyway, so I don't believe in banning him from anywhere :rofl: I wouldnt be able to enforce it anyay as the little monkey always finds away around closed doors :rofl:
I'm quite lucky I guess in that he doesn't generally jump onto worktops, but if he did when I was out, I wouldn't have a problem with that, I just make sure I anti-bac the surfaces every night before I prepare food ;D
The litter tray and his food bowls are all in our kitchen though, its a big room so its totally the other side to any of my preparation areas, and its a case of needs must.
The amount my boy grooms himself, he's probably cleaner than the o/h ;)
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I have one of those heavy fire doors so the kitchen doors is always shut ,
i keep the water bowls and food bowls in one end of my dinning room
and the table and chairs are at the other end of the room .
as for litter trays
i have two hall ways one when u come in the front door
the other one is between the kitchen and bathroom
i keep the litter trays in the second hall way .
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I agree that cats on worktops aint great BUT..try telling that to the codster and cause we all love him so much he gets off with it somehow. Having said that we do put him off the one beside the cooker or where i prepare food and let him on the other one where the draining board is and the kitchen window. We cant really chastise him too much because i leave his food on the draining board each night so the mutleys dont eat it so it must be confusing for it to be ok on one side of kitchen but not other.
He sleeps in kitchen (gets shut in their at night) because he has to be locked out of all bedroom due to peeing on duvets and if he's not in kitchen he scapes at the doors which isnt good for us and certainly not on with the children.
Codys hooded tray also in kitchen but it doesnt smell, gets scooped and cleaned lots etc and i use wbcl which is great for odur control anyway. Out of choice i wouldnt have it in there but as we have had to gear the kitchen up for him and his nightly requirements his activity tree and bed etc all in there aswell (yep kitchen is pretty big LOL)
Dogs also live in kitchen for a few reasons which stemmed from necessity when logan was a puppy and had a problem where he had to be restricted to one room only and no excersise. He now does wall of death with over excitement when allowed into livingroom and last time we took him through he bounded and jumped to land on sofa but went 2 ft above the back and soared over into a pile on the floor (not great for a dog with hind quarter weakness) If we let tom through and not logan, L whimpers and whines incessantly..both are acustomed and happy with their arrangement altho i think deep down tom probably does long for the sofa again LOL.
The kitchen is the easiest place to clean i guess thats why many people use that room.
I am very much looking forward to having a house with a kitchen and family room all together which means we are likely to spend much more time there altogether leaving the living room for "good" & a utility room for the trays. ;D
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Willow spends a lot of the time in the kitchen. Like others, I always wipe the top down with "bugs away" or similar before any food prep. Willow also has a covered litter tray with flap in there as its the only place she can have it. She has to live on the ground floor and the others live in the basement. We have fire doors but theyare always propped open (don't tell the fire brigade :evillaugh: ) so the cats can wander. I don't see what the difference is. Is a cat in a dining room where peaople eat any different to a cat in a kitchen where food is prepared?
The environmental officer said its fine having cats in the kitchen as long as they are kept out while cooking breakfast for guests. Anyway, my cats are cleaner than a lot of people :evillaugh:
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Codys hooded tray also in kitchen but it doesnt smell, gets scooped and cleaned lots etc and i use wbcl which is great for odur control anyway.
Know what you mean Lynn I have 5 trays, i in our bedroom, i in the little bedroom , 2 in the hall and one in the kitchen and apart from when Jessica has done her 'cows backside trick' visitors would not tell by smell we had any trays. As soon as one is used it is cleaned out if it is a dump, and the urine does not smell with the wood litter or WBCL. The only cat that ever went on the kitchen tops was Peewee, and every night we used to put that see through plastic stuff (carpet protector) on the tops.
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You have a litter tray in the kitchen of your B&B?
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Its the only way. Willow can't go downstairs as she gets attacked by kylie. I can't have it in the guest dining room - so the kitchen is the only place - it is a HUGE room though so nowhere near any food prep areas. My kitchen is a former victorian doctor's surgery - complete with all the original oak cupboards and even a bakelite "next please" bell push. There is always clean litter and is is regularly wiped down with "bugs away" and washed out with virkon solution. My cats are cleaner than a lot of my guests :evillaugh:
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virkon solution. My cats are cleaner than a lot of my guests
You can't better Vircon can you? We often use that as of course do many vets.
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Lynn : ur dogs live in the kitchen ???all the time????
so at night there two dogs and a cat in the kitchen? what about the other two cats ? do they sleep in the kitchen too?
i dont wish too offend anyone
and if any one takes offence at this then im truely sorry as its just my opinion
BUT ...... litter trays in the kitchen is unhygenic !
any kind of sh :censored:t shouldnt be in the same room as where food is prepared
for example if it was a restaurant or cafe kitchen it would be closed down if there were pet hairs and wee and pooh about . :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
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I would prefer not to have trays in the kitchen but our bathroom is so tiny we couldnt fit them in there! Also i dont think my dad would want to sit in the bath and look at a cat poo!
I have one in my bedroom and 2 in the kitchen.
With 6 cats with no manners we dont do food prep on the surfaces, we use chopping boards instead.
Im sure at night they sit on the table :shify:
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if there were pet hairs and wee and pooh about .
Please don't think all our houses are full of cat hairs, wee and poo they are not and if you came to mine you would not tell I had cats unless you saw them and the trays (that are always cleaned immediately, unless we are out)
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As with having a baby I wipe surfaces and give everywhere a good clean before making food. I have a hooded tray in the kitchen and clean that asap if any nastys are left in there. My cats go all over the house whats mine is theirs and whats theirs is there own. I dont even get my bed to myself.
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My cats go all over the house whats mine is theirs and whats theirs is there own. I dont even get my bed to myself.
Bit like our house then.
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My trays are all in the kitchen, well, actually in a large walk-in cupboard in the kitchen. Its ideal - vinyl floor, silk painted walls for easy cleaning. Much rather have trays in the kitchen where everything is easy to clean.
My cats go wherever they like and I wouldnt have it any other way - cats on worktops? yep, some sleep up there and heres a pic of my little helpers - think I should call this pic 'Too Many Cooks' ;D
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What am I talking about "my house" its their's, they just let me live here as a servant.
Yes I rather them in the kitchen, I tend to clean the kitchen more.
Gillian that pic is fab, are they choosing what they want for dinner. :)
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that picture is just too cute :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
awwwwww were they all queing up for dinner ? :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
its a lovely picture :Luv:
ive just shown it to my oh and he says its lovely too and its funny lol awwwww
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What am I talking about "my house" its their's, they just let me live here as a servant.
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but think of the germs they must be transmitting forever :evillaugh:
great pic gillian however me thinks a bigger work top may be needed now or were the newbies up there too ?
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but think of the germs they must be transmitting forever :evillaugh:
Whateverrrrrrrrr
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each to there own innit if someones happy with there cats in the kitchen then so be it
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Our cats are allowed in the kitchen and they will go on the counter tops - not my choice :)
Vinagar and water or baking soda and water clean everything pretty well. The only time we keep the cats out is due to my husbands miniature hobby (1inch tall metal or plastic figures) that he'll get annoyed if Lirael runs off with them (she's done it many times before) and there is a chance they will eat a bit of metal or get into the paint he uses.
As to hygeine - Lirael goes for my glass of water if I don't pay attention. Normally I catch her but I'm sure there have been a time or two I've drank cat backwash...
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well cody has swiped my white wine before now and no way was a slooshing the rest down the sink, i gulped it down before he pinched more :rofl:
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Iits what they do every morning, when they line up to be brushed!! There is supposed to be one no-go area of the worktop, just a few sq inches for me to prepare my food and theirs, just have to hold my elbows out and make warning noises if anyone approaches :Crazy:
Yes Lynn, will need extra worktop space for the newbies - I'm with you - I would dearly love a utility room - it is my dream - sad really, most people long for a conservatory, extra bedroom, or ensuite bathroom, extra living space - but me all I want is a utility room! :doh:
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Mine are allowed to go wherever they want. As they're indoor cats and I live in a one bed flat I'd feel cruel shutting them out of any rooms. I don't mind them in the kitchen. They don't go on worktops much but I'm not bothered as I don't put food directly on the worktop. I use a chopping board which is stored on its side by the side of the microwave. There are hairs all over the place anyway - I don't think keeping them out of the kitchen will make much difference. Besides, they just add a bit of fibre to the food :evillaugh: Question for those who don't like them on worktops - is that because you put food on the actual worktops or do you just not like the idea?
I'm not keen on litter trays in the kitchen (mine is in the living room) but you have to put them where there is space and where the cats want them. They don't have to be dirty trays - If you keep them clean and scoop regularly there shouldn't be too much of a hygiene problem.
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oh i forgot of course me knew house will have atleast 1 extra if not 2 more bogs :evillaugh:
A conservatory an added bonus (prefer sun lounge myself ) but a utility room is much more practical.
susanne..They don't go on worktops much
or so you think :rofl:
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I just dont like the whole idea susanne , ive had expierence of cats going in the kitchen and it was awful ,
as for the litter trays dont forget i have 7 cats theres just no way i could have 7 cats all going a pooh n pee in the same room as i prepare food :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
and although i sccop up poohs as soon as they r done and i change the whole trays and wash them every other day i still think the cats trays are unhygenic to have near food ,
also those of u who have indoor cats that are allowed in the kitchen dont u ever open ya kitchen windows????
i have mine wide open all day
wat about when u cook surely u need the window open with all the steam
doesnt it get hot ? :Crazy: :Crazy:
oh and Ela if u use to have the bk door open for ur dog to go in n out what about the cats ?????????? didnt they try and escape ? :Crazy:
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most would have xplairs and cooker extractor fan things. Yes my window is open partially any day its not freezing.
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Our utility room unfortunately leads into the loft and Dave has yet to build a loft hatch so they can't have trays in there (they have to be shut out of their) otherwise they get up into the loft. Frightened the life out of me when I was in the loft one day getting more litter down and turned around to see Bilbo behind me!
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I just don't like the whole idea Susanne. We prepare food on chopping board or those worktop saver things.
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most would have xplairs and cooker extractor fan things. Yes my window is open partially any day its not freezing.
nothing beats fresh air though :evillaugh:
i take it u must have cat screens up to ur windows then
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no why do you take that :Crazy:
its never fully open and often only closed on the catch (big heavy double glazed units so cody cant push em) other windows where the big boys are is different they are never left open without being on the catch as they can push them (never meant to be but accidents have been known :tired:)
Of course you do remember im in rural aberdeenshire and probably got more fresh air howling past my ears anyway :rofl:
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virkon solution. My cats are cleaner than a lot of my guests
You can't better Vircon can you? We often use that as of course do many vets.
I love it but get really impatient waiting for the tablets to melt!
I also stained a carpet as I thought it would be a good idea to add a few to carpet shampoo to get extra clean carpet (luckily it came out with oxy-kic :evillaugh: )
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forever if you hedging around askin for a free scottish holiday you can forget it :evillaugh: (full at the inn)
(anyway didnt we have a similar discussion before but on cat hair which can also be classed as unhygenic ? ) :innocent:
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If you get the powder Mark you don't have to wait for the tablets to dissolve and it's not much hassle to stick the scoop into the tub. I've swapped to Virkon now from F10 as F10 makes the house smell like a vets surgery whereas Virkon doesn't and it's also cheaper ;D
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Iits what they do every morning, when they line up to be brushed!! There is supposed to be one no-go area of the worktop, just a few sq inches for me to prepare my food and theirs, just have to hold my elbows out and make warning noises if anyone approaches :Crazy:
Yes Lynn, will need extra worktop space for the newbies - I'm with you - I would dearly love a utility room - it is my dream - sad really, most people long for a conservatory, extra bedroom, or ensuite bathroom, extra living space - but me all I want is a utility room! :doh:
Me too!
I have the washing machine under the stairs (it has a door) in my living room. I treated us to a lovely George III chest of drawers for the bedroom earlier this year - but it takes the elegance away having the tumble dryer next to it :evillaugh:
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If you get the powder Mark you don't have to wait for the tablets to dissolve and it's not much hassle to stick the scoop into the tub. I've swapped to Virkon now from F10 as F10 makes the house smell like a vets surgery whereas Virkon doesn't and it's also cheaper ;D
I will try the powder but I have a bad habit with powders and liquids of adding "just a bit more to be on the safe side" that's why you can stand the spoon up in my coffee :evillaugh:
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but it takes the elegance away having the tumble dryer next to it
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as for the litter trays dont forget i have 7 cats theres just no way i could have 7 cats all going a pooh n pee in the same room as i prepare food :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:
I've got 12 ;D and its not like there's a big rush for the trays when I'm preparing food! they don't tend to 'go' all together :evillaugh:
Me too!
I have the washing machine under the stairs (it has a door) in my living room. I treated us to a lovely George III chest of drawers for the bedroom earlier this year - but it takes the elegance away having the tumble dryer next to it :evillaugh:
Oh I don't know Mark - gives it that certain je ne sais quois! :evillaugh:
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I will try the powder but I have a bad habit with powders and liquids of adding "just a bit more to be on the safe side" that's why you can stand the spoon up in my coffee :evillaugh:
Ahh yes I'm the same. You can't *quite* stand a spoon up in my Virkon but I'm sure it's not far from it. Think Virkon is supposed to be a 10% solution and I usually make mine up to being a 20% solution. It makes sure everything is nice and clean :rofl:
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My cats have free run of the whole house, I'm not keen on them jumping on the worktops but try telling my cats that :Crazy: As soon as my fridge door is opened you get about 10 meowing babes thinking it's ham time and when I'm making a cuppa I'm usually fighting with the parrots for the spoon :censored: I much prefer the cats jumping up than the parrots being on there.......the parrots will just demolish anything in their path including loaves of bread and they take great delight in emptying plates and cups out of the sink, and throwing them on the floor :censored: Give me a nice quiet cat in my kitchen anyday :Luv: :Luv:
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the parrots will just demolish anything in their path including loaves of bread and they take great delight in emptying plates and cups out of the sink, and throwing them on the floor :censored:
There again parrots like to cause chaos in any room lol (and then shout and screech about it!). My remote controls are misisng a few buttons, my rail card has beak holes all over it, some of Dave's cds that were in cardboard covers have had the covers shredded, spag bol stain on carpet from him flying straight into my plate of spag bol etc :rofl:
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I've been delaying caging mine as they are so used to being out but I'm going to have to. They've been through numerous remotes, one chewed my driving license up a couple of weeks ago and threw everything out of my bag, they've starting demolishing my bannister, they've chewed wires, they've gone through god knows how many loaves of bread, they've demolished cakes, broke cups, helped themselves to my drink when I've made one, help themselves to the cats biscuits........the list is endless :Crazy: :Crazy: They won't like being caged as they've been loose for god knows how long but for their safety and my sanity, they are going to be caged for certain parts of the day and definitely overnight as this is when they go on a wrecking spree in my kitchen :sneaky:
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luv parrots but couldnt eat a whole one :evillaugh: no seriously i do but couldnt live with one i dont think (never mind several) and i'd rather deal with cat germs that parrot germs.
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Gonzo was caged overnight and when I was out (he was out of cage whenever I was home) or my house would have been completely destroyed lol. I had issues on my last mobile as he'd pulled two of the buttons off so I had to hunt for ages to get a new keypad for it and until i could get one I couldn't dial 6 or 0 lol. The one thing I don't miss about parrots is the fact they aren't litter trained lol. I bet Gonzo's having lots of fun at the bridge destroying everything he can find, shrieking as only Amazons can and snuggling up with any parrot friendly cats he can find.
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no seriously i do but couldnt live with one i dont think
They cause havoc and answer back, it's just like having a toddler really lol.
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I would say the cats carry a lot more germs than parrots but that aside, it's just the demolishion faze they are going through at the moment that's driving me batty :Crazy: :Crazy: They have plenty of toys but they've still got to go on a wrecking spree and the cocky little buggars do a headbutting motion when you try to move them, they are comical but when you are tired and you are constantly clearing up after them, it gets a little tiresome :sneaky:
Mine do chase a couple of the cats round and when I fill the water fountain up, it's usually the parrots that get a drink first and the cats have to wait their turn :rofl: Last year we had to take the curtain pole down in the lounge as they'd spend hours chewing my beams :censored: One parrot we had used to break out of his cage, even if we put dog clips on it, he'd wind us up by undoing them and putting them on another bar and then opening the door :Crazy: :rofl: I do love them and would miss them if they weren't here but I think I'm gonna have to be tough and limit their freedom a little bit otherwise I'll have no house left.
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I have litter trays in the kitchen, cat room, bedroom and bathroom (and have had them in the living room too), to be honest the kitchen one doesn't bother me, as it is a good 4 feet away from where I cook (well, when I cook of course!!), and scooping trays is one of the first things I do when I get in, so nothing in it while I am cooking. The one that does annoy me, and the one I would like to get rid of, is the one in my bedroom, nothing worse than being woken up at 5am by a cat digging for mad, and then the smell. I dislike getting up anyway, never mind that early!! I dont have a prob with worktops, I have lazy cats that dont bother with them, although one of the fosters has started doing, but all he does is go on them to sit on the windowsill, so can cope with that. As I have bad habits of stroking them and not washing my hands (esp at night), then I am sure if I was going to get anything, it would have happened by now, have been doing that for nearly 5 years.
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If you keep the poo and wee separate from the food in the kitchen then there's no problem, surely?! I have 2 litters in the kitchen for my three, which I clean (the litters that is) as soon as I come in from work. I'm gradually weaning them off them and getting them to go in the garden, not because I have an issue with hygiene, but cause of the lack of space. I much prefer the litters in the kitchen - much quicker and easier to clean, especially if there's a 'whoopsy'!
As for the worktops, mine used to go up there but because I put everything foodwise away, they realised there's nothing interesting up there anyway, so don't bother anymore. I always clean my worktops before preparing food tho, just in case. I do think we can get too fussy about germs sometimes tho! We need a few around to build up our immune systems - look at the state of the hospitals now with all these superbugs - which is a reason I don't use antibacterial cleaner, not to mention their environmental impact.
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Mogs never goes on the worktops but Amber does. She comes up when Im doing their food and walks up and down, sometimes she jumps up and sits looking out of the window. I cant open the kitchen window as its a sheer drop 4 floors so it scares me but I do have an extractor fan for when Im cooking. If for some reason I need to leave food out its always covered or the door is closed with the cats on the otherside.
Its not ideal but as I live in a flat the kitchen is the only place where theres room to feed them. I do use a fair amount of anti bac spray though.
There isnt room in the kitchen for the trays so they are in the back bedroom (along with the rest of the cr*p ;))
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Tab
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oh and Ela if u use to have the bk door open for ur dog to go in n out what about the cats ?????????? didnt they try and escape
As I was typing I just knew that would come back.
No, because if the back door is open the door between the lounge and the kitchen would be closed, and if that was open the cats would have the run of hall, stairs, landing and 2 bedrooms. (3rd is computer room). Although I say run they are usually fast asleep on a bed, how unhygienic is that?
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Ela cats sleeping on the bed isnt unhygenic at all !
ur lucky ur cats sleep mine dont :rofl:
all night theyve been manic flying up n down the stairs climbing on the bedroom door etc
all im saying is the awful smell of sh :censored:it i wake up to every day
i couldnt and wouldnt have it in my kitchen
the smell is enough to make someone pass out :sick: :sick:
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Ela cats sleeping on the bed isnt unhygenic at all !
I think it is really, after all they jump on your bed without washing their paws and bum after using the litter tray.
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Ela cats sleeping on the bed isnt unhygenic at all !
I think it is really, after all they jump on your bed without washing their paws and bum after using the litter tray.
Actually Amber got on the bed and woke me up this morning by leaning against me to wash her bum!!
Sadly that was after she'd stuck it in my face. Luckily without my glasses I cant see much so I hope it didnt have danglers :evillaugh:
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Tab
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after she'd stuck it in my face
Know the feeling well. my Jessica (cat with a bum like a cows backside sometimes) sleeps on my pillow. well I move one of my pillows down the bed a bit to make room for her on another pillow.
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Oh forgot to say my daughters potty is often in the kitchen too so she wee's in there sometimes :rofl: :rofl:
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Lynn you dirty human! :rofl:
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Lynn you dirty human! :rofl:
Don't forget to add common to that as well :evillaugh: :rofl:
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Could be worse millys mum, she does always poop in the toilet :evillaugh:
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Jakey sleeps in the kitchen at nights at the moment, he doesn't really go on the surfaces, well not when i see him during the day in there anyway. I sweep the floor daily and i always anti bac the surfaces before i cook, i anti bac then every time i'm in there, abit of a clean freak me, lol, also have all my utencils and chopping boards etc put away xxx
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None of my cats have ever jumped onto the worktops - Pickles does however take the odd flying leap up there when he thinks I am not looking :shify:
My six guineas live in the kitchen as does Bigwig my giant bun - usually one or other of the cats is curled up with him. Zak (caique) loves sitting and looking out of the window.
I clean a LOT :evillaugh: