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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: Bee on July 19, 2011, 23:18:00 PM
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Argh!
First Bass had a little bit of runny stools going on, she got better and now Drum too... I'm keeping a close eye and will head straight to the vets if hers doesn't clear up... but any tips in the meantime would help. I've cleaned out their cat fountain and replaced the water as usual, done a full dump and clean of the litter trays and restricted them to just a little dry applaws ... they obviously don't go out so can't have eaten anything unusual that I'm aware of..
the other issue I have is that, well they are long haired lovelies... so this and sloppy toilet are not a great partnership.. Drum was very distressed at the mess she was in when she couldn't clean herself properly, we got hold of her and tried to help her and got most of it off but not until after she'd tried and made herself sick.. which she did in the litter tray like the well mannered young lady that she is!
They both seem quite happy playful and not at all off their food so I can't work it out.. when it was Bass I thought it might be because i'd tried her on other food but Drum has only eaten the Hi Life and turned her nose up at everything else... :shocked:
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trim hair round their rear ends.
Buy some proKolin or Lacto-B online.
Starve for 24 hours and then try something bland like boiled fish or chicken is small but frequent meals. You could try mashing up a bit of boiled egg in with their food.
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I have been giving Lupin Lacto B last week but on Sat he was worse than usual, wonder if i gave him too much, so be careful of dosage.
The other one is a paste you squirt in mouth so turned that one down from vets.
Have had him on boiled chicken since Sat and was getting better but stole loads of Duchas food and now is back how he was grrrrrrrrrr.
Thanks Angie cos didnt know how much and how often to give him the chicken cos he gets hungry so quick.
Hope that helps Bee.
Now Ducha been sick all over bed, started this morning when he ate some rc sensitive biscuits I wanted Lupin to eat, Ducha just cant tollerate biscuits at all, they went in and straight out again grrrrrrrrrrrr.
So now have two cats to get backl to normal.
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Oh Gill, you sound much worse off than me! Hope your kits are ok! Thanks both of you for the advise I'll pick up chicken tomorrow and order the online stuff, I've trimmed the girls a little but they are very difficult to hold still!
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My vets don't advise starving them any longer but putting them straight onto a bland diet - chicken or chicken with rice if they'll eat it. If Bass has cleared up quickly then hopefully Drum will too.
Luckily my boys are shorthaired but having seen the devastation that can be caused by a runny bum on a shorthair cat I'm shuddering at the thought of a runny bum/longhaired white cat combo! Huggies babywipes are brilliant for any marks on the carpet and could also be used to wipe her if she gets in a mess.
I've had good success with Lacto-B before but I don't think many vets sell it (they seem to favour pro-kolin aka kitty face paints), it's handy to have in the house ready for any relapses.
:get well: girls :care:
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Thanks and know Lupin will get back and since the last explosion he is now playing again.............somehow need to stop each eating the others food. Havent found anywhere to hide Duchas food that Lupin doesnt find it and I can get to it without having to get up every half hour!
Lupin is just a gannet but Ducha who is 18yrs next month only eats a very little at a time.
I boil the chicken in water.....not a lot, in wave and keep in fridge. I cut chicken into very small pieces and it gets about 2 mins. Out of fridge I give him the juice and chicken cut down again and in wave for 10secs to just take the chill off it.
It heats up very quickly so just need to make sure its not hot.
Hope they both get well quick :hug:
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Aaah thanks for the well wishes guys :)
Drum and Bass send you both some ankle licks ;)
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I'm shuddering at the thought of a runny bum/longhaired white cat combo!
Oh yes, been there :sick:
I always just bake the chicken in the oven, never bother with boiling it.
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I'm shuddering at the thought of a runny bum/longhaired white cat combo!
Oh yes, been there :sick:
I always just bake the chicken in the oven, never bother with boiling it.
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Me too on the chicken front, only the breast as I don't like the brown meat so don't expect the boys to eat it either :naughty: I just wrap it in foil and it comes out soooo juicy I'm jealouus of the cats dinner :evillaugh:
Saying that I tend to buy the Royal Canin sensitivity pouches if either of the boys have an upset tummy now as it's just so much easier than faffing around with cooking, cooling and chopping chicken - especially when I'm up at 5am for work!
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RC sensitivity biscuits made Lupin ill again, havent got anywhere to buy the pouches.
Also breast meat here lol and need some more.
Cant mess around with putting stuff in the oven when 2 mins in microwave boils it and as he doesnt drink then the water which becomes tasty juice is useful for him to drink.
Ducha also partial to this chicken in juice........sigh
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You can get the pouches from any vets (they're not a prescription food so you shouldn't need to be registered there). Also VetUK sell them and numerous other places online too.
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Too expensive online and vets round here seem to have stopped selling RC and Hills.
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It's normally cheaper online than at the vets, mine charge £10.50 a box whereas it's £8.60 a box online.
P.S Apologies for taking your thread off onto a Royal Canin sensitivity tangent Bee!
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Well the girls have eaten their boiled chicken right up so we shall see what happens.... Might try the oven tomorrow just for a change... Bass seems to have all but recovered but Drum did another stinker today... bless her, I want the to be well for Friday as it's their 1st birthday!! :(
I might get some RC pouches to reintroduce the wet food post chicken...
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Sooo.. the girls are really enjoying their chicken, I think it's helping.. Today they've had a medium sized breast fillet chopped each in intervals throughout the day.. I'm not really sure how much I should be feeding them though... they seem to be hungry again... how much is too much? :-:
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I feel that this chicken doesnt really fill them up, I am aslo giving Lupin some biscuits now, they are Hills science plan sensative and just noticed he has left some in the dish......wow
He is still not solid but better than he was.
Ducha is back on his normal food again and juice from the chicken LOL
Hope they are back to normal tomorrow, think Lupins like this too long for an overnight miricle.
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Sooo.. the girls are really enjoying their chicken, I think it's helping.. Today they've had a medium sized breast fillet chopped each in intervals throughout the day.. I'm not really sure how much I should be feeding them though... they seem to be hungry again... how much is too much? :-:
I ended up giving Riley at least two small/med chicken breasts a day but he is a) male and b) fully grown (4 yrs now). If they're hungry still you could try addding cooked rice to the chopped chicken. I tried it on Riley but he just ate round it :innocent:
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...just found some sick in the litter tray.. I'm starting to worry now... neither of them have been to the toilet today though and they both seem fine... Hmmmm....
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I wouldnt worry, Lupin goes less frequently with the chicken, just keep an eye on them :hug: :hug:
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Ok thanks Gill, I'm sure I'm being paranoid and the sick is a very small amount, probably just hairballs... Just an overly worried mum! :thanks:
I am impressed by her manners too, heading to the litter tray making a little well with her paw and being sick into it so that the litter stays dry!
Ooh the girls celebrate their 1st birthday in 20 mins :)
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How are they today? Whenever I've fed exclusively chicken it does seem to bung them up a bit so I wouldn't be worried about the lack of movement at this stage.
Hope they're enjoying their birthday :)
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Hi Helen, Well I've bitten the bullet and booked a vets appt... that's £60 to find :shocked:
Drum had the runs again and was sick over night and then sick again before brekkie this morning... guess I just want piece of mind... :(
What a nice birthday gift for the little one ay?
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Aww, bless them :care: Hope it's nothing untoward, it could be that they need some antibiotics to shift it. I'm sure the vet will mention this but if they're being sick aswell you need to try and make sure they're kept hydrated, they might even recommend syringing water into them if they are dehydrated.
I went through a bout of upset tummies with my two, they both had antibiotics and the faceal tests came back negative. It took quite a while to clear up hence my expertise on the subject!
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I hope there is nothing wrong :hug: :hug:
I had started adding some biscuits to Lupins diet, which as far as I can tell are OK but today he has stolen food again and was ill again not long after.
He is always hungry and has a black hole for a tummy I reckon, he is not keen on biscuits grrrrrrr
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Thanks for the tip :)
Yeah - they seem absolutely fine in themselves and Bass is in fact totally back to normal but I figured I may as well get her checked too, she was never sick actually just had loose stools.. they are both still drinking and eating too... I keep trying to think of things that we've changed.. we got them one of those drinking fountains from Zooplus so I've even unplugged that and given them their water bowls back... they were only health checked about a month and a half ago when they arrived at the RSPCA and were fine.. curious.
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Do I remember right Helen in that you never found out the reason?
How long did it take for them to get back to normal?
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Do I remember right Helen in that you never found out the reason?
How long did it take for them to get back to normal?
Yep, they both had antibiotics and the faecal tests came back negative. Riley had been poorly a month or so before with vomiting and inappetance but when they were both poorly together with runny bums my vet didn't seem keen on any other tests, despite me asking, as they are/were otherwise young fit and healthy so she didn't suspect anything untowards going on. I think it took several weeks to clear up completely and I kept Riley on the sensitivity food for a few months as there was suggestion of food intolerance or allergy but I weaned him back onto normal food with no issues.
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Hmm makes me wonder if I am being too hasty with the vet check... I'm keen to get an all clear but equally don't want to waste £60 if they are simply going to advise me to keep an eye for longer..
They are very active and healthy otherwise... and not eve off their food... tough one...
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If you're worried then it's probably best to get them checked over for peace of mind :hug: You could always ring and explain how long they've had their symptoms for and ask the receptionist to ask the vet whether they should be seen now or whether to leave it a day or so to see if it clears up.
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Agree its a hard one and Lupin is just one month younger than yours Bee.
I rushed him to the vet last Saturday and was really £30 plus petrol for 50 miles down the drain, he is slightly improving but not better and he is such a gannet.
Oh really have to try and get a pic of him now LOL but camera bag is underneath wher he is lying......sigh
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Well that's decided then... got home and OH says Drum went to toilet again today and it was not nice, he thinks it may have had a little blood in it... I'm so worried now :(
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Oh dear, sounds like his tummy is very sore :hug: :hug: :hug:
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her tummy Gill ;)
She seems fine, not distressed, but I bloody am! :scared:
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Sorry her tummy :hug:
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Poor baby :care: Sounds like she defo needs to be checked out but if it was fresh red blood then it's not normal as such but may not be anything to get too worried about :hug:
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Yeah defo time for a check up, I think she's lost weight too, but the blood might be something else. The other thing about Drum is that when she was speyed they couldn't find her ovaries.. They cut her in two places the little love and still nothing so gave up, so she may be in season? :-:
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Was their appointment today? If so how did they get on? :hug:
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I am interested too cos Lupin is not well today and looks like he will have to go back to vets on Monday unless things pick up.
He is still asleep and also slept most of yesterday and his tummy is not good this morning and showing no signs of improving .
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Hello!
Back from the vets, Drum has a temperature so vet says it's probably a tummy bug they've picked up and passed to each other... but the good news is it's nothing serious :)
Drum has had a 3 day antibiotic injection and I've got some pro-kolin for both of them.. will keep them on a bland diet until they return to normal....
:thanks: got thinking of us :)
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I hope its the same with Lupin then but he is only one with it.
He doesnt mix with Misa and Sasa and Ducha is OK except his cat flu is flaring up and have put bisolven in his food this morning. Stress of being chased I think but he does ask for it when he rushes under the bed............last night he was wopping Lupin......talk of the devil Ducha just came down stairs!
That means Lupin is definately not feeling well!
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Well, of course, I don't know that this will definitely work, we'll see in 3 days but I'm confident it will... cats can pick up stuff from everywhere even fresh water or from bottoms of shoes etc, he may have a little bug even if the others don't.. did the vet check his temp last time?
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Hello!
Back from the vets, Drum has a temperature so vet says it's probably a tummy bug they've picked up and passed to each other... but the good news is it's nothing serious :)
Drum has had a 3 day antibiotic injection and I've got some pro-kolin for both of them.. will keep them on a bland diet until they return to normal....
:thanks: got thinking of us :)
Glad it's nothing too serious :hug: Let us know how you get on with the pro-kolin kitty face paints :naughty:
Did your vet say anything about the blood? When Riley had fresh red blood in his runny poos the vet said it wasn't anything to worry about and that if the blood was very dark then it might be a concern as it has travelled from elsewhere.
Hope it's not long before they're back to tip top form :)
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Thanks Helen :)
She just said that it means there is a bit of irritation and inflammation but wasn't too concerned...
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Yes temperature was taken and it took a fight with a vet nurse and the vet and he growled and hissed and lashed out!
His ears arent hot so dont think he has temperature but gonne try and put stronghold on him tonight cos he is back being active and on Monday will get a spot on wormer from the vet, think they have to be a week apart but will check.
I just found a furball accompanied by something else, so now we need to eliminate everything and he is now not so hungry.
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Oh poor Lupin..... :hug: keep us posted
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Gonna try vet for a spot on wormer tomorrow and do that first.
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Any news today Gill?
The girls haven't been sick or had the runs since Friday, in fact, they haven't been to the toilet at all since Friday :doh:
Going to start re-introducing wet pouches tonight...
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can only sympathise as I have been feeling the same way for a couple of days... been in bed most of day and even tempted to try some of the prokolin myself.... :sick:
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This morning he was moreorless solid ;D
However he is staying on chicken until the next movement which could be a couple of days away and then will start reintroducing the sensitive biscuits.
Hope yours are solid when the next time happens.
Could we be getting there, I wonder :shify: :shify:
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Yay! Well spoke too soon for Drum who did a not so nice one today after 3 days... :doh: No blood though so it's a start... I see chicken well into my future lol...
Hurrah for Lupin though :)
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I dont know about Lupin but I sick of chicken LOL
My vet said to reintroduce cat food very slowly.
Poor Drum :hug:
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Well she's back on just chicken for now. Bass is fine :)
Although I am starting to wonder if Bass might be slightly blind as well as deaf... She uses her nose to find a biscuit in my hand right in front of her and it would maybe explain why she doesn't really jump climb or want to play as much as her sister who is very boisterous... You probably can't tell from pics but she has one blue eye...
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I found this very good when Mosi had runny poos earlier in the year
http://www.mypetcaresupplies.com/search2.asp?searchfield=&cat=&departmentID=107&categoryID=&submenu=48&show=product&productID=2804
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That looks interesting Susanne, ill pick some up, thanks for that! :)
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Both girls pretty muc back to normal! :wow:
Hurrah! We go away tomorow for 4 days and this will be the first time we have left them :( I hope they are ok, we have people coming in everyday to check and feed them... I wonder what carnage I will return to :naughty:
'm glad their tummies are better in time for us going though
In other news we are really struggling to get Drum to use the catflap... it's not to the outdoors, it's in the door of the large cupboard where we have their litter trays... Bass used it fine when we showed her how it works but Drum is being a right pain! I just don't get it.. she's the adventurous one!
We've tried physically putting her in there to see if she at least comes out but she just stares through it at us like a prisoner, we've tried coaxing her through with Dreamies and putting Bsss in there in the hope she follows her sisters lead... Nada. :doh:
We are having to prop it open as I'm scared she'll go elsewhere or hold it and make herself ill! :doh:
How's Lupin getting on?
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Lupin was solid for 2 days and now introducing biscuits but now he is not quite as solid as he was grrrrrrrrrr. gonna persevere but not sure what problem is........he is now disappointed getting chicken and biscuits and I so want to get him back on cat food.
He knows that Ducha gets cat food and chicken and I definately dont want him on Duchas pate but he is trying hard.
Pleased yours are doing so well but some cats just wont use cat flaps and stress at not being able to get to a litter tray could cause all kinds of problems.
With the smell Lupin makes which pongs out the whole house,,,,,,,,,,,,,he wont use his cover tray any more...........but I dont blame him cos I wouldnt want to be trapped in an enclosed space with the smell either LOL
I am about to move the covered tray from the front room cos it takes so much space, he has two trays in the bathroom and one in the bedroom for the night, actually there are 2, one for Ducha.
Hope you enjoy your trip away...........I am scared just being outside for a while :rofl: :rofl:
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Glad the girls are back to normal ;D Enjoy your break, am glad they're better in time for that otherwise it would be such a worry leaving them.
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Got back Monday and the girls were absolute angels whilst we were away ;D We really missed them though...
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What good girls ;D
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Pleased to hear they're completely recovered and didn't mis you... too much :naughty: