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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 26, 2011, 12:46:17 PM

Title: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 26, 2011, 12:46:17 PM
Ducha is at the vets being xrayed cos he has broken or damaged something very badly in his right front leg, which his weight bearing leg cos of having no back leg on that side.

Richard his vet has said to prepare for the worst  :'( :'(

The best would be that he has snapped the ligament and the worst would be an upward fracture or fragments that have broken off or will not heal.

I am wondering how long he has been like this although I thought maybe he had a problem the early hours of the night before last but yesterday he was moving between his beds but never saw him walk. This morning he wanted the litter tray but couldnt get there and I broght the tray to him.

He wasnt showing any kind of pain but thought his leg looked at wrong angle and then he couldnt stand anymore.

When I rang vets for appointment this morning first thing, I was told there werent any and had an appointment for 1615 b ut rang back an hour later cos I thoiught maybe he had dislocated his leg cos by then he couldnt walk. I was told I would have to see the vet I will never see again but was put through to Richard who said just get him there as fast as possible.

Turns out Richard was free and could have seen him earlier, so heads will roll.

Please send Ducha your very bestest vibes cos I cant believe I may lose him cos of a broken leg  :'( :'(
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 26, 2011, 12:55:18 PM
Just had a call from Richard, his vet and the good news that its is a dislocation and the leg has been put back but the down news is that it could pop out again any time and he needs up to four weeks cage rest but even after that it could happen again.

Richard says its not worth trying to bandage or cast cos he thinks that will not be good for Ducha.

Have to go out and buy a cage now from somewhere.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on January 26, 2011, 12:55:56 PM
Oh no - poor Ducha.

I hope it's best case scenario and not worst case.   Keeping everything crossed for you both.

ETA - oh that's good news Gill.  How will he take to cage rest?  I dread ever having to put either of my 2 on cage rest.  If it was Jaffa I'd have to crawl in there with him, and if it was Mosi he'd go crazy being confined.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: madamcat (Edd) on January 26, 2011, 13:03:33 PM
Oh poor Ducha and what a shock for you - Gill  :hug: :hug:

Glad you have now found out it is a dislocation and Ducha needs cage rest - wish you were near me and I would shoot round with my cage.  Got mine from Pets at Home - large enough for a cat bed, litter tray and food and water bowls.

Have you a local CP or other rescue - they sometimes lend out cages (for a donation or a deposit).

Sending healing vibes for Ducha. :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Jasmine on January 26, 2011, 13:33:46 PM
OMG Gill - you are going through the mill.

Wishing Ducha a calming and healing cage rest.
:wish:
  xx
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 26, 2011, 13:38:37 PM


Gill, am very glad it wasn't a broken leg although understand your reservations about cage rest for your beautiful boy.  Argos do a variety of cages and I seem to recall they're about £5.00 cheaper than PAH, although you could maybe find something cheaper on google.  Are they keeping him at the vet or letting him home straight away?
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 26, 2011, 13:40:47 PM
At the momen t Susanne he will not be bothered but he will need help getting into and out of litter tray, thinking of using a nearly flat tray.

Once he starts to feel better he will not be a happy bunny aqnd am going to need to move the cage from downstairs and back again at night so I am in same room as much as possible.

Vet has recomended a cage from Argos around £30, but thats too small and prices have gone up.

The next size up looks the right size to get litter tray in and bedding and food and water.

Going to go and try the farmers place just up the road before travelling to argos.

I am still so worried about him cos he is such a climber and will lose the jumping ability while being cage rested, so that means he will then use front legs to haul himself up............I will worry about that later!

I wish you were closer too Edd  :hug: :hug:

We dont have  a Cp or any other rescue.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 26, 2011, 13:47:05 PM
Gill, if you get a chance take a look on Gumtree, Cardiff - they've got a couple of potential cages on there at reasonable prices which might be useful?
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Wibblechick on January 26, 2011, 14:43:36 PM
So sorry to read this, and relieved its not a break.   :hug:

Sending lots of healing vibes
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: JackSpratt on January 26, 2011, 14:52:46 PM
Sending vibes for Ducha. :)
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes,,,,,,,,,,,coming home for cage rest tonight
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 26, 2011, 14:54:13 PM
Thank you.

I have bought a cage from the farmers place and cost £50 and very bloomin heavy......sigh It cost £2 more than argos which is reported to be very flimsy.

I am about 166 mile return from cardiff Sue so not worth the petrol and dont have time cos need cage tonight when Ducha comes home. Thanks for the thought  :hug:

Just having a little rest and need to get cage up with bedding in before going back to the Gower.

I will add a bit to the title cos any advise on cvage rest needed, with the enphasis on rest and no wailing...........cos he is a birman !

Also a bit worried about bedding cos he likes to sleep off the floor but he cant, do I put in the only floor bed he uses or is it better for him to just stretch out flat...............he usually curls up in his beds. Until I see the xray tonight dont know which bit was dislocated but I think it will be the joint below the top one.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Liz on January 26, 2011, 15:45:03 PM
Gill an idea for cage rest if you have the plant thing for potting up it is high on 3 sides and flat at the front with a shallow lip and we have used this type of thing before when Puma was on 10 weeks cage rest with his metal fixator

Puma was in a large dog crate and the shallow plant thing, and a bed and a clip on water bowl on the side of the crate means no water bowls for spilling or lying in

We also had the self heating reflectabed in his flat bed so that he was never cold as this bedding retains the body heat they build up if it is cold at night I recommend the micro heat pads this can be slipped in to a twel and put under any bed type

Any cat on cage rest will rebel and be vocal and try to escape - we always shut the door before we opened the crate and ensured he had nowhere to hide - I know that may be an issue  but trying to get them out of a hidey hole can cause further damage

Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on January 26, 2011, 16:03:48 PM
Poor Ducha but I'm glad its not a break.  :hug:  I have no advice to offer on cage rest, never having had to do it, but I hope it all goes well and the dislocation doesn't recur.  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: tab on January 26, 2011, 17:13:46 PM
Poor Ducha
I hope the cage rest isnt too bad for either of you
love
Tab
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: cazzer on January 26, 2011, 19:25:05 PM
poor Ducha my friends birman was hit by a car and broke his pelvis.      She was dreading the cage rest as Johnny is very noisy demanding and into everything .      He was actually fine though.       Hope Ducha is such a good patient  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Janeyk on January 26, 2011, 19:33:29 PM
Poor lad, sending lots of get well wishes his way  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 26, 2011, 20:35:07 PM
Thank you all.

He has been in the cage for about 2 hrs now and is starting to get restless and bored, he has alre4ady over turned his water dish, eaten and used the ttray.

I wish I could have afforded a bigger cage cos dont feel this one is big enough, however Liz can you terll me what the plant thingy was used for........sure I am being dumb and if you had a picture of it that would help me to look for one.

Where can I get a clip on dish?

This cage aleady takes up so much floor space I couldnt fit a bigger one in but the cage is very heavy and need to move him upstairs tonight, so that at least he is in the same room as usual.

Yes must remember to close door Liz, you are right abut sadly there are millions of places to hide and somewhere I have a microwave hot water bottle.

After seeing the xrays I think its a dislocation and also a break and Richard says the ligament will fill the gap but it can easily pop out again, so very worrying cos this is Duchas life at risk.

The break/dislocation is in the wrist and suspect it was from a jump down from on high,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he is wreckless, Probably occurred in last week but he has been agrevating it and by this morning it was so bad he couldnt stand anymore.

I dont understand how its gonna heal when he is lying this paw over the side of his bed and he doesnt seem to be able to get comfy, so is constantly moving.

Any advice from anyoned is most appreciated.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Liz on January 26, 2011, 20:42:44 PM
Gill link for plant thing

http://www.plantmenow.co.uk/potting-tray.aspx

The clip on dishes we have came with the cat travel boxes they are quite small but hold enough water for cats and Sunny has one on his crate for overnight

Gill a flat bed with no sides is best then he can't dangle paw - alternate use is a pillow

I wouldn't keep moving the crate keep him in one place better all round if you fall you could both get hurt - I would leave him in the crate and shut the door so if he yowls the noise will be quieter

Puma spent 10 weeks in the lounge but got one hour a day out for a wander very hard on him as he was a hand rear and sleeps with me everynight but he wasn't to bad also a feliway spray and catnip helped keep him occupied
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: pappilon on January 26, 2011, 20:46:26 PM
Poor Ducha, sending him lots of good vibes and  :hug: :hug: for you Gill.
I think i have seen clip on dish in our local pet shop, do you want me to check tomorrow ?
I could get two and post them to you , hopefuly you get them by saturday.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: snarf on January 26, 2011, 21:09:52 PM
Poor Ducha  :hug:
Hope cage rest isnt too hard on you both
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 26, 2011, 21:15:29 PM
I have just changed his bed to a flat one and he is much more comfortable.

That tray is enormous Liz  infact bigger than the cage lol, the cage has a tray full size at bottom.

The cage I was gonna get from argos was apparently the same size as that tray but this cage is 4cm smaller.

Ahhhh he has just eaten again and is now lying down flat cleaning.............much better.

Am having to alternate litter tray and food cos not enough room for both,

Will pm you Pav  ;D
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Liz on January 26, 2011, 21:19:35 PM
Gill we used to put the food on a saucer so its easily taken away

We do have big dogs so our crates are rather big I am sure that the potting things come in a couple of sizes I put that link there as an example but our green house is shut up all cosy and insulated for the winter so can't see in as its gone frosty here

Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Ann Clarke (Tabby cat) on January 26, 2011, 21:25:50 PM
Gill just seen this thread and just wanted to send lots of love to you and poor Ducha and hoping that the cage rest isn't too traumatic for you both xxx
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gillian Harvey on January 26, 2011, 21:26:45 PM
Goodness, what a worry Gill  :hug: I hope he takes to cage rest ok and his leg heals up and stays healed  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 26, 2011, 21:29:26 PM
Thank you both.

Right I will hsve a ganda Liz, thanks.

He is so much more comfy now  ;D
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: madamcat (Edd) on January 26, 2011, 21:39:47 PM
Gill - I hope all goes well with Ducha's cage rest.  :hug: :hug:

Great advice here from Purrs peeps. The only other thing I was told was to place a blanket or large bath towel over the top of the cage to help the cat settle.

Also Gill - I do agree with Liz about not moving the cage about. Much better for him to stay in one place (and also for you)  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Liz on January 26, 2011, 21:48:57 PM
Agree to cover the top sorry our dogs crates have a blanket and then cat beds on top so not something we think of as they are always there
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Steff - Petsearch Bedford HQ on January 26, 2011, 22:28:24 PM
Lots of vibes for Ducha and hugs for you Gill. Can't believe he is poorly again, he really doesn't have the luck at the minute...poor Ducha x
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: bunglycat on January 26, 2011, 22:49:34 PM
Poor Ducha - so sorry he is having these problems and has hurt himself.
Hope the cage rest goes well and he heals really quickly and it doesn''t happen again.
I bet you are so stressed !- sending loads of healing vibes to Ducha and some  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: for you .

Hope the rest all stay well too .
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 26, 2011, 23:55:22 PM
Thank you very much all  :hug:

I dont think either of us are going to cope well till early March.......sigh

Cage part covered now and am rounding up all my cat blankets and washing them so he can put his own smell on them.

He has eaten very well since coming home and had a drink and used the tray.

Hoping for a quiet night, not that Franta ever gives me one LOL. Misa was up on the bed when I went upstairs, waiting for me  :rofl:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 27, 2011, 06:46:24 AM


Morning Gill.  How's the patient this morning?  I can imagine you've had a fretful night, and sending hugs to you both.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Mark on January 27, 2011, 07:31:06 AM
Hope he settles down with the cage set up and starts to get better quickly  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: clarenmax on January 27, 2011, 09:04:14 AM
Sorry I didn't see this yesterday hunnie  :hug:

Hope you both had a good night  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on January 27, 2011, 15:08:25 PM
Ohhh Gill sorry to hear about Ducha, hope all will be ok.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Dawn F on January 27, 2011, 17:37:19 PM
poor ducha, any idea how it happened?
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 27, 2011, 19:22:56 PM
Thank you and I think we both slept fairly well but I could do with another long sleep.........sigh

Dawn the vet thinks its happened when he jumped down off something.....maybe the back of the sofa which he did last week and I think its fairly recent. Its his one supporting leg on that side so is the main weight bearing leg.

I need some more bedding for him like the cat blankets that you get from the cat show, with fleecy stuff on one side and material on the other and with a padding in..........dont know what to call them in a search cos cat blankets just bring up those thin throws...........anyone got any idea?

Think I will go and get some cheapo towels tomorrow to pack as a base for him in the tray in the  cage,,,,,,,needs to be soft but fairly firm with the other things on top.

Just bought a couple of oven trays to use as litter trays LOL and a small SS dish with a lip all round which I am going to attached to the frame with garden wire and hope lol

We have meow meow meow at the moment cos he wants to get out and come and cuddle or rush upstairs.......sigh
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: cazzer on January 27, 2011, 20:13:28 PM
Glad you both got some sleep Gill, there's nothing worse than lack of sleep.     Hope he is as good tonight.      Good luck on the blanket hunt.     
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: sheryl on January 27, 2011, 20:55:53 PM
Lots of love and healing vibes for Ducha xxx  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gillian Harvey on January 27, 2011, 21:09:03 PM
I need some more bedding for him like the cat blankets that you get from the cat show, with fleecy stuff on one side and material on the other and with a padding in..........dont know what to call them in a search cos cat blankets just bring up those thin throws...........anyone got any idea?


Is this the sort of thing Gill? they look like they are fabric one side and fleece the other, filled with squashy duvet - all machine washable http://www.beddingbox.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_42&products_id=418  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: west0405 on January 27, 2011, 22:03:29 PM
Oh dear poor Ducha, (and you :hug:) Hope he feels better soon and isn't too grumpy in his new cage.. although sounds like its turning into a lovely little palace  ;)

x
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Zenith (Liz) on January 27, 2011, 22:21:06 PM
Oh poor Ducha :(

Hope the cage rest is bearable for you both
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: ChrisB on January 27, 2011, 22:56:11 PM
Only just seen this Gill - glad that Ducha is a little more settled in his pen and hope he will soon be feeling much better  :hug: :hug: to you both.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Liz on January 27, 2011, 23:16:16 PM
Gill this is the bedding we have they are really good - this link is for example I know Mark has a thread where to get them cheaper a total godsend as you can buy spare covers

http://www.amazinghealth.co.uk/flectabed-heated-bed.htm

Hope you are both trying to catch some sleep or catnaps :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on January 27, 2011, 23:28:21 PM
Hope youand Ducha have a good night.   :hug: :hug:  Pity you don't live closer - I have a huge pile of towels looking for a good home.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: bunglycat on January 27, 2011, 23:57:11 PM
Hi Gill,
Do you mean the vet bedding ?
I had some from a cat show like that -i used it in the outside cat houses .

Hope Ducha feels better soon and his leg heals well.
Also hope you all get some much needed rest .

If you were closer i could have given you a duvet he could have had in his pen .

Loads of healing vibes and  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:  for all of you .
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 28, 2011, 02:15:49 AM
Thank you for the messages and I really apprciate them cos this is gonna be a long 6 weeks......feels like 4 weeks already!

Thanks for the link Gillian , its the closest to what I want, maybe exactly but will tell you when they arrive LOL.

If Mark has the link to those Liz I would love to have it as those are serioulsy out of my price range.

Its very cold tonight and have put my microwave hot water bottle in his cage but maybe wont need it cos he is fairly close to a radiator.

He decided litter tray wasnt liked and put front paws in and sat down on blankets.........sigh............hope new ones arrive quick cos now have two that need washing again straight away!
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 28, 2011, 07:17:58 AM



Aw Gill - far more constructive advice here than I can offer, but just want to say we're thinking of you and sending gentle purrs to Ducha.   :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Dawn F on January 28, 2011, 08:26:14 AM
not been on much with the new job and everything, but am keeping an eye on this thread - if its vet bed you want (white fluffy on one side and green  on other) you can get it on ebay
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 28, 2011, 08:49:22 AM
Am so sorry to hear about poor Ducha Gill and poor you  :( :hug: :hug: :hug: 

Have everything crossed that dislocation knits back in properly and Ducha learns to accept confinement before too long.  Must be heartbreaking for you....

He is a very lucky chap to have such a caring mom to look after his every need.

Sending a few  :hug: :hug: :hug: to the rest of the gang as can't be much for them either having to listen to their pal shouting  :(
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: bunglycat on January 28, 2011, 13:33:24 PM
Hoping Ducha is better real soon and doesn''t stress too much in his pen.
Loads of  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: sent to all of you and hope you all get some rest soon .
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Mark on January 28, 2011, 14:27:00 PM
Re the Flectabeds. I got mine from Amazon for around £26 (inc delivery)  but I think someone else got theirs a bit cheaper elsewhere.

Something else I can HIGHLY recommend is these http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290404938206&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT They aren't heat reflective but they are really cosy. They are actually a cheaper (but better) version of the Savic dog cage pads. All of my lot love them and favour them over other cat beds. They are nice & padded - the edges are really supportive for the head. Underneath is properly sewn & quilted canvas. I even washed them at 60 and they were fine. I washed a more expensive Savic one with one of these and this came out better. I ordered one for Lazarus as well as he sleeps under the bed sometimes so this is cosy for him  :Luv2:

The one on the link is a good size for a large cat but they also do other sizes. The smaller one is £6.99 + £2 postage.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 28, 2011, 18:27:08 PM
Thanks Mark for the link and all other links,

I now have another problem cos Ducha is refusing to use a litter tray and has wet two lots of bedding right through today, now trying to get them dry.....sigh

I am putting the bedding in layers cos the floors are so very cold here, have paper under the cage to try insulate but need a way if possible to stop him wetting everything.................if I put polythene under first layer of bedding would that cause any other problems?

I can see Ducha and its like looking at a prisoner behind bars and makes me so sad, he cant understand why he is there. I dont think he is in pain.......how I dont know but do know he is wobbly on his feet, which is undeerstandable.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on January 28, 2011, 18:30:14 PM
Poor Ducha, hope he makes a speedy recovery  :hug:

Would puppy pads be any good for his pen?
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 28, 2011, 18:33:18 PM
I dont know Helen cos not really sure what they like except when vet has put one in the carrier they seem slippy for him to walk on and Franta had same problem too.

How do they work , do they make it waterproof?
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on January 28, 2011, 18:52:41 PM
They're plastic backed with a nappy like coating on the top so any moisture is soaked into the pad and won't go through. The ones I have aren't slippy but maybe different brands are different?
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 28, 2011, 19:13:34 PM
Thanks Helen where do you get them from and what brand do you use?
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on January 28, 2011, 19:37:20 PM
No idea on brand I'm afraid, I bought them years ago in bulk from ebay as I used to put them under the litter tray when I had Tiggy. You can get them from Pets at Home, Jollyes (any pet shop I guess). They do them at Argos and have seen them in £stretcher too.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/8702489/Trail/searchtext%3EPUPPY+PADS.htm

Did I read somewhere that you bought a crate from Argos and there was something not right with the tray but it says online you can't take it back? If the item is faulty you are allowed to return stuff, it's only if you've changed your mind that they're not duty bound to accept returns.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 28, 2011, 19:51:33 PM
Thanks Helen, yes I bought a crate from Argos but there is nothing wrong that they will accept, as its not faulty, just badly made and its excluded from their 30 day return policy.

Its not one of the things mention in the many reviews but the leaflet is interesting especially has many buy it for the same reason as me, a cat which needs cage rest.

The leaflet says do not leave the animal in the cage unattended ever and do not leave the animal in the cage for long periods of time  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

One of the probs for people like me buying these is that you need it now and cant wait for one to be delivered and as one review said they arte expensive, especially when they will end up at a landfill very quickly...................that was because of the quality.

I think the puppy pads will be the answer to Duchas bed wetting and probably better than a litter tray. I have just looked at the one that the vet put in the carrier and it looks like the others on packets but am surprised how expensive they are.

The first bedding will be dry now so need to change his bedding and wash that!
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on January 28, 2011, 20:01:38 PM
Might be worth ringing around the cheapy shops - £stretcher etc to see if they do them as they'll be much cheaper than Argos I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: tab on January 28, 2011, 20:08:39 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Liz on January 28, 2011, 20:19:25 PM
Gill you can get puppy training pads at pets at home they are about £10.00 for 25 - we used the Sweetie and of course for Puppy training Sunny

they ae very good - also just a thought if you have a mother and baby store the sheets used for toddlers during nappy training can be used and cut to size
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 28, 2011, 20:57:33 PM
Thanks Liz i guess I am going to be there shopping again tomorrow.

Can anyone advise the best way of cleaning Duchas tail end he has pulled all the fur off the undereside of his tail and he is sore.

Just seen him trying to turn round and am sure that paw is bad again .

Please tell me he wont have to go to the Bridge cos of a paw  :( :( He wont eat now but will try some chicken later .

Franta is sulking big time and not a happy bunny either.
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Post by: cazzer on January 28, 2011, 21:15:06 PM
hoping it gets easier for you all Gill  :hug:
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Post by: Mark on January 28, 2011, 21:47:22 PM
Unperfumed baby wipes are probably best for cleaning under his tail.

Hope he gets used to his confinement and gets better soon  :hug:

Just to give an idea of the thumbs-up with the beds - Kylie is a huge cat btw.

(I couldn't get all the backing tape off the Paws Away)
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 28, 2011, 21:49:42 PM
He is not doing well tonight.

He has wet his new towel and is now lying with his face very close to where he has made it wet ,

I cant do anything about it without trying to move him but am hoping he just waited so long before trying to use the tray, he is tired and thats all.

He usuallly sleeps for hours and hours but since being caged he hasnt.

He seems to be totally flaked out.
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Post by: bunglycat on January 29, 2011, 01:24:17 AM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Rosella moggy on January 29, 2011, 08:03:37 AM
Hoping Ducha has rallied a bit Gill and is more comfortable :hug:
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Post by: Mark on January 29, 2011, 08:27:13 AM
Gill you can get puppy training pads at pets at home they are about £10.00 for 25

I remember someone on here saying they got 100 for about that much from a  Costco/Macro type place?
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Post by: Rosella moggy on January 29, 2011, 08:35:24 AM
Not sure if I'm misunderstanding something but doesn't this link say 50 pads for £4.30 altho I'm sure postage will bump price up.  Are these the wrong size or something?

http://www.vetuk.co.uk/behavioural-training-aids-puppy-training-pads-c-198_595/pet-stuff-puppy-house-training-pads-p-4383?number_of_uploads=0
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Post by: Mark on January 29, 2011, 08:41:03 AM
The pricing looks seriously messed up there  :shify:

15 = £5.47
30 = £1.74
50 = £4.30

If anyone needs some, might be worth ordering 10 packs of 30 for £17.40  :shify:

I know the ones PAH sell are 'Simple' ones (as in Simple Solution)
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 29, 2011, 08:50:43 AM


Gill, I figure you're probably both suffering from lack of rest.   :hug:  I hope the night wasn't too bad, and sending my love to you both.

The pricing on those pads does seem a little - odd!   :shify:
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Post by: Rosella moggy on January 29, 2011, 08:51:15 AM
I'm so sorry but at that price for a pkt of 30, I couldn't resist and have ordered a pkt for Ducha  :-[  Hope you don't mind Gill  :shy:  They are probably useless but worth a try.
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 29, 2011, 14:56:41 PM
Oh Rosella, that is so kind, thank you  :hug: :hug:

He is very very quiet and I think he is depressed, possibly in pain, his tail end is very sore. He hasnt wet himself since yesterday evening or used the tray.

I have given up with trays cos worried that efforts to get in and miss are not helping.  Just dont know how to clean his tail end cos he wont keep still and I dont want him moving around.

Going to get a trial pack of puppy pads from PAH cos only pet shop there is and need to get through the weekend.

He has eaten but didnt like his chicken last night but he looks comfortable at the moment and hope he will sleep without his back leg all twisted cos its getting so stiff, He has had his metacam today so hope that makes it feel a bit better.

I am going to speak with the vet on monday because am worried that maybe he needs more proactive help, rather than just cage rest and as he could stand up when he came home but hardly can now it makes me worried that the bone has popped out again...............how can i tell!

If i feel it will help I will transfer him to Frantas vet but need to be certain that this is needed..............the real advantage is that they have a 24/7 service and will definately keep him in if necessary. Whereas the current vet has nobody on site at night and use vets now but also feel they are more willing to send animals home to avoid transporting them back and forth. I dont think keep putting ducha in the car helps him at all cos he will move around and shout all the time.

Franta of course is now very jealous at the attention his bro is getting and trys to push his way between me and the cage without putting a paw over the threshold!
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Post by: bunglycat on January 29, 2011, 15:11:04 PM
Gill -i have a cream in for sores ,burns etc -its called OTODEX -its very good .
The expiry date on mine is June 2011- its only had a little bit out of it .
If you pm your address i can post it to you first thing Monday if you think it would help.

Hope he picks up very soon  :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on January 29, 2011, 15:19:58 PM
 :hug:  :hug:  :hug:  So sorry that things are not going well with Ducha but I think you have done the right thing taking the litter tray out.  Does he try to move at all or is he settled in one place?  It may be that 'climbing' into the tray was the problem or perhaps in current state just the feel of the litter on his paw is upsetting.  Its a pity you can't find a flat tray like the one LIz recommended that you could line puppy pads rather than litter and maybe he would use that that.

I've never used puppy pads but I did have incontinence pads for both Rosie and Korky when they had problems.  The square sheets are finef are fine for absorbing water but are wuite thin and because they have a plastic backing they they then retain the moisture so you really need a thick nappy-type one.  With vet bed (the original not the non-slip) l the water drains from the fleece onto the backing very quickly but even that is not foolproof because unless the water then can then get away the drying process is impeded.  Probably vet bed on top of the puppy pads is the answer (not exactly cheap though).

I can't offer any suggestion for a easy way to clean him I'm afraid.  :hug:

I think if if was with a vet who offered 24 hour care you might feel more relaxed although I suspect they worry less about whether he is

 dry than you do.
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 29, 2011, 15:29:29 PM
Have pmed you Gill  :thanks:

Yes Carol its a real problem at moment and I dont know how well the puppy pads will work............so far have not been able to locate a small version of the tray that Liz mentioned, have tried all garden places locally but to be honest a small one of the size I need is unlikely I think.

Definately he doesnt like the feel of the litter and he is currently lying on the puppy pad that the vet put in his carrier and if he goes on that I think its good and maybe putting plastic covering under the first layer of bedding may be the only way.

Have noticed that the cushion blankets he has dry very quickly after being washed and the liquid seems to go straight through so maybe they are just the answer.

What I dont need is for him to lie in what ever he does and its very hard to move him once he has settled.

Just have no experience like most of trying to care for a cat like this.

Thank you so much everyone for all your advice and help, and anything I can do to help Ducha to be comfortable and get better I will try.  :hug: :hug:
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Post by: bunglycat on January 29, 2011, 15:48:09 PM
Fleece is very good too and dries very quickly -all my cat beds have fleece in and they love it.

I could post you some of that too if need be - i always have plenty in as i get it from the local market -its about £4 a metre and its 60 ins width.
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Post by: dizziblonde on January 29, 2011, 17:48:44 PM
I read your first post and thought "oh heck" - owning a tripod myself, a leg injury is my ultimate nightmare scenario.

With the bedding - is it not easier just to make an impromptu one out of something like a couple of folded fleeces or towels? At least they'd wash easily and quickly - we've got fleeces in the back of the car for the dog and when he's carsick they're in and out of the washer on an express wash and dry in under 30 minutes and dry when they come out - we spent all of £2 a throw at Asda for ours - have them for dog blankets, have more for sofa blankets and they're soft and snuggly (and usually occupied by a three legged cat who approves of them!). As for cleaning him - I've got a box of pet type babywipes I got in PaH for the pongy dog that could prob work - they were in with the shampoos and stuff when we picked them up.
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 29, 2011, 18:33:38 PM
Yes you are right a 3 legged cat is a nightmare waiting to happen, especially when they are as carefree as Ducha.

My problem is that the floors are so cold he needs loads underneath him to stay warm and also to pad the hrad tray so he is comforatble.......6 weeks is a long time.

The cushions that are half faux sheepskin and half material with duvet stuff in the middle are drying quite quick but yesterday got caught out cos he wet everything..........today so far he has not produced anything but he is moving around slightly better in the cage with no litter tray.

Now he has to undrestand that he can just sit on the puppy pad and it doesnt matter.............not that the carpet by the litter tray ever stopped him!

I didnt go to PAH in the end grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr was going to see if they had anything for cleaning him............I am sure they usewd something when he was at the vet so will ask the vet on Mon.

He has eaten more today than all of yesterday so thats good.
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Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on January 29, 2011, 18:56:35 PM
Good news that he's eating Gill.  Hopefully he'll  settle down now and accept his enforced rest.  :crossed:
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Post by: Kirst on January 29, 2011, 23:36:52 PM
Don't know how I missed this - sending all the ppove and vibes in the world for Ducha - and Beavis send a traditional long hard Birman wail! :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Rosella moggy on January 29, 2011, 23:52:55 PM
Have you tried popping newspaper in a corner Gill?   :shy:  Freddie always pees on his newspaper  :-[
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 30, 2011, 01:06:47 AM
No I havent but may have to cos its 24 hrs since he did anything.......sigh

He is not purring but is blowing his nose and just hope he hasnt caught a chill or the flu coming back.

I am sure he would wail back to Beavis but he just not feeling good at the moment, even Franta is being quiet.
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 30, 2011, 07:52:05 AM
Gill, just checking in to see how Ducha was overnight?
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Post by: Kirst on January 30, 2011, 09:10:15 AM
Hoping that you and Dicha had a better night xxxxx :hug:
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Post by: cazzer on January 30, 2011, 09:47:40 AM
hope you are both doing ok  :hug:
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Post by: JackSpratt on January 30, 2011, 10:51:35 AM
How're you all this morning Gill? :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 30, 2011, 15:05:55 PM
Thank you for asking.

Ducha has used his Puppy pads now although no solids yet and when I woke up he had used the second one and was sitting waiting for it to be changed, so hope it had not been wet for too long. Think he is getting the idea.

He is moving better and eating and drinking, still sulking in a spectacular way as birmans do and not purring.

When I wasa trying to change the puppy pad last night he walked out of the cage but lay down by my legs, he was trying to push me away so he could roam but I wasnt having that and he was not happy.

I am keeping him upstairs now cos last night was so cold and its not warm enough down here for him.

He was yawning when I left him so hope he will go back to sleep.

Things are going better than a couple of days ago.....................grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr just remembered he hasnt had his metacam, will be in next food!

He is having watered down warm condensed milk to try and help his tail end to work properly but has only drunk one lot so far.......sigh

I think I am feeling a bit less stressed but am so worried about him.
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Post by: Kirst on January 30, 2011, 16:32:21 PM
He sounds like he is doing a bit better...............eating and drinking is good , and as for sulking - well you have my sympathy but you know he will get over it...............................eventually! ;) :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Dawn F on January 30, 2011, 16:45:25 PM
glad you are both a bit better, he will forgive you and you don't have an alternative  :hug:
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Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on January 30, 2011, 16:52:31 PM
Glad Ducha is doing a bit better. All fingers and paws are crossed here for Ducha

Get better soon Ducha
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Post by: cazzer on January 30, 2011, 17:06:20 PM
glad he is doing a bit better  :hug:
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Post by: dizziblonde on January 30, 2011, 17:25:42 PM
Awww I'm glad he's sulking! Least it means he's got some of his spark back if he can muster a good sulk! :D
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 30, 2011, 17:28:13 PM
 :rofl: :rofl:  thanks all
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Post by: Rosella moggy on January 30, 2011, 19:24:42 PM
So pleased you are sounding a bit more positive Gill  :hug:
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Post by: Stuart on January 30, 2011, 19:45:51 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Post by: madamcat (Edd) on January 30, 2011, 20:05:33 PM
Glad things have improved Gill and Ducha is behaving - sort of  :hug: :hug:
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Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on January 30, 2011, 23:26:48 PM
Hope Ducha has a good night tonight and youmanage to get some sleep Gill.  :hug:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 30, 2011, 23:55:50 PM
Thanks Carol, he is miserable tonight and need to see how his tailend problem can be resolved cos dont know if he can go sitting down, cos sure he must want to go desperately.
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 31, 2011, 07:07:35 AM


Ah well, in that case he needs the good old "poop poop poop" vibes.   Sending those now.  Hoping you  both had an easier night, Gill, and it does sound a bit more positive.   :hug: :hug:  I'm also pleased to know he's still capable of having a good sulk.  :evillaugh:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 31, 2011, 12:20:58 PM
I think Ducha slept OK but not me, very little sleep. One large black and white sleeping like a log down one side and Franta messing around on the other..................I am shattered.

Ducha has produced one little nugget and hope this is the start of normal service.

Overnight he drank the rest of his watered down condensed milk and he has now drank two lots ands a bit, so have left him some more and hope that will finish off the trick.

Has had his metacam today and eaten a bit, guess with his lack of mobility he doesnt need to eat as much?

Puppy pads are working well and now waiting for the vet to ring to answer loads of questions.

Sadly his cat flu has returned and hope its not going to get any worse, guess its the stress of being in the cage, he is not sneezing but blowing through his nose and snuffling so am putting the bisolven in his food again to try and break up the catargh before it goes solid.

Poor little man really needs some sort of stimulation but without causing him to move!!
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Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on January 31, 2011, 13:04:14 PM
Hope Ducha get better soon from the Flu, least there is sign of the toilet probs getting bit better. When Ollie had toilet probs the vet gave me a little lactulose to help but then realised you can get it loads of places

You need to try get more sleep Gill, we dont want you getting ill also

Hope the vet calls soon and answers the questions you have

Zoe
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 31, 2011, 13:52:07 PM
The watered down condensed milk is the old fashioned way of doing the equivalent of lactolose and its working now cos  just had to go and change all Duchas bedding cos he is producing but also managed to miss the end of the puppy pad a bit and liquid right through to tray.

Have now ....................what was I gonna type lol, just had to go back upstairs for 4th time cos of Frantas howling, this time was no reason I could tell.......sigh


I think Duchas problem is how to go, I mean physically cos he cant sit with front paws on side of litter tray as he used to so raising his tail end and am out of ideas as I think he is.

I wish I could sleep Zoe cos I get shatttered very quickly when I only have a few hours sleep.
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Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on January 31, 2011, 14:04:06 PM
Thats good to know Gill as Ollie hates the lactulose with a passion, he takes it well but sulks afterwards for so long

Aww Franta just needs his Meowmy, he reminds me of Ollie as he howls and usually for no reason and just needs some attention

It must be hard for Ducha trying to do toilet

Has the vet rang yet
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 31, 2011, 14:09:29 PM
No he hasnt  >:(

With the condensed milk you use one teaspoon full and water down with boiling water so its runny like a drink, my bowls are so cold the water goes very cool almost instantly!

Not too much water but just until the stickiness has gone and its like milk.

I give it once a day for Ducha to lap but usually takes two days before he will, I let him choose.

Once things are working again I stop it but by thenhe wants it LOL............usually takes two to 3 days to work.
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Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on January 31, 2011, 14:25:21 PM
Thanks for the info Gill, next time Ollie has probs i will try that as it will taste far better than lactulose, he does take it woithout an argument but sulks for hours after as he no likey the taste

Heres hoping the vet calls you soon. Will help you a bit once you get the answers to your questions
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 31, 2011, 18:28:38 PM
Have just spoken to the vets and he thinks things are going very well!

He is going to send some bisolven for Duchas flu and he agrees its the stress of being in the cage thats brought it back.

He says if I can manipulate Duchas back leg and keep it moving that will help to stop so much muscle wastage and that if the bone in front leg has popped out again it will most likely pop in or find a place that it is most happy in for Ducha. Obvioulsy we cant have him xraywed every othe minute so he thinks that this is the best way for him.

I asked about stimulation so that Ducha is not so bored but sadly my house is too cold to put him in the places that would give him something to watch.....the windows are like airtex! Its importanyt to keep him warm to stop him stiffening up and so his flu doesnt get any worse.

Right off to feed him now and disturb Sasa who is on my bed, Franta is sleeping down here cos of that........sigh
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Post by: cazzer on January 31, 2011, 19:43:02 PM
thats encouraging news Gill  :hug:
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Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on February 01, 2011, 00:04:50 AM
Sending 'sweet dreams' vibes for Ducha and you Gill.  :hug:  Oh go on then, better include the rest of the gang or they'll be jealous and keep you awake.
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 01, 2011, 07:15:52 AM


Topping up the hugs Gill.  Very encouraging news from the vet.   :hug: :hug: :hug:   It's a shame you don't have one of those little portable dvd players - my grandaughter has one which used to drive me nuts, but perhaps it would've been useful for Ducha.
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Post by: clarenmax on February 01, 2011, 09:33:09 AM
Glad the vets words were encouraging, hang in there hun  :hug: :hug:
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Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on February 01, 2011, 11:17:04 AM
Glad the vet seemed encouraging and positive, hope Ducha's flu gets better soon

Zoe
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 01, 2011, 12:55:24 PM
Thank you all and Carol you are so right the others need cuddles too  ;D

Not a lot of sleep again and got 6 interrupted hours, but its Franta that howls and meows and think he is trying to look after his brother cos was woken by non-stop meows and howls and he just would not be quiet till I got up and he saw that I was changing Duchas puppy pad which was wet!

As soon as he saw me doing that he stole my pillow and snoozed off!

Ducha very hungry this morning despite having food at 0815 and wants out of the cage again every time I open the door. I only let him get out when I am changing bedding and/or puppy pads cos its impossible to do otherwise but he is only allowed to just be outsisde the door.

He told me last night that he wanted to go further by pushing and pushing with his head but the answer had to be no  :(
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Post by: ChrisB on February 02, 2011, 21:39:28 PM
How are things going today Gill ?   Hopefully improving for you all.
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 02, 2011, 22:14:17 PM
Afraid that Duchas flu is worse and he is now sneezing and also I am going to have to restart the condensed milk cos he is not producing any nugets again.....sigh

He is sulking again but not really trying to get out of the cage now but I must be careful cos I dont need him to take me by surprise.

I am hoping his flu will stop getting worse cos dont want to have to drive him to the vets for a convenia jab as he will jump around in the carrier in the car and could hurt his leg again but cant wait until weekend and will have to judge by tomorrow night.

I cant tell how his leg is but he shuffles around in the cage.
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Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on February 02, 2011, 23:10:15 PM
 Sorry to hear that Gill.  :hug:  :hug:  Sending vibes for the snuffles to clear up without a vet visit and the condensed milk to get his innards (but not his leg) moving again.  I suppose the constipation is down to his inactivity, so difficult to get these things just right.  At least he's not fighting to get out now which is
 hopeful.
I hope you all have a good night - try gagging Franta so that you get some much needed sleep.  :naughty:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 02, 2011, 23:12:17 PM
Thanks Carol, blooming Franta has been queit all day, and not even been down for a cuddle........sigh
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 03, 2011, 07:18:29 AM


Well, sending cuddles for the Mighty Ducha this morning, on the basis if he won't come to the cuddles, then the cuddles must come to him.....   :hug: :hug: :hug: :catlove2:
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Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on February 03, 2011, 13:14:38 PM
I hope Ducha is doing well today  :hug: 
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Post by: Angiew on February 03, 2011, 13:18:00 PM
Afraid that Duchas flu is worse and he is now sneezing and also I am going to have to restart the condensed milk cos he is not producing any nugets again.....sigh

He is sulking again but not really trying to get out of the cage now but I must be careful cos I dont need him to take me by surprise.

I am hoping his flu will stop getting worse cos dont want to have to drive him to the vets for a convenia jab as he will jump around in the carrier in the car and could hurt his leg again but cant wait until weekend and will have to judge by tomorrow night.

I cant tell how his leg is but he shuffles around in the cage.

just to say when we had goose in a cage 'cos of his ear, he soon became quite happy to stay in there.... it's amazing how quickly they adapt. in fact when we opened it he often choose to stay in there.
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 03, 2011, 13:39:47 PM
This morning he tried to get out of the cage again........sigh

So he seems to go from sorta accepting it and then to let me out!

We are in week two now and he was sneezing big time last night,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just reemembered vet has not sent me the bisolven grrrrrrrrrrrr.........but today so far he doesnt seem quite as bad.

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Post by: west0405 on February 03, 2011, 14:44:08 PM
Glad he's feeling a little better today  :Luv:

I bet he thinks if he plays the 'I don't mind it in here' card for a while he'll be able to trick you and escape when you least expect it!  :evillaugh:
Little minx!

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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 03, 2011, 14:45:50 PM
I think you are totally right LOL but I had suspected that he wasnt as docile as he looked  :rofl: :rofl:

You know the butter wouldnt melt look  :evillaugh:
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 03, 2011, 14:53:05 PM


Definitely a case of a Cunning Artificer if ever there was one.....  :evillaugh:
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Post by: clarenmax on February 03, 2011, 16:01:56 PM
he can't be feeling too bad if he's trying to make a break for it  :Luv: :Luv:
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Post by: bunglycat on February 05, 2011, 18:18:41 PM
How is Ducha doing now Gill ? Any improvment ?
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 05, 2011, 19:15:07 PM
He is not eating so well today and needs condensed milk , he is far too quiet but suspect thats the flu which may have his voice, if like last time.

No purring at all, I do hope that wrist is starting to knit but there is no way it can be told except by xray.
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Post by: lizfraser on February 05, 2011, 19:53:27 PM
Hope that he perks up soon and that you can get a better nights sleep.  Dillon made me feel so guilty when he was on cage rest (for nearly 4 months in total)  I remember how much he struggled using the litter tray, so can only imagine the problems Ducha must be having.  Once Dillon was more mobile we got one of the really large triangular covered litter trays and cut a hole in the side of the cage so just the entrance fitted through, creating an en-suite for him! :rofl:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 06, 2011, 02:45:39 AM
En suite  :rofl: :rofl:

At present Ducha has en suite puppy pads  :innocent:

4 months thats a long time, what was wrong with Dillon, I proberly know but have forgotten?

Am off to bed shortly and the way I have been crashing out all day, it would be so nice to crash out in bed!
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 06, 2011, 07:03:21 AM


Gill, just popping by with some Sunday Morning Snoozles for Ducha, and hoping you had a decent night.  :hug: :hug:
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Post by: clarenmax on February 06, 2011, 08:33:58 AM
Hope you all had a good nights sleep, and that Ducha's feeling a bit brighter and eats more today xx
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Post by: souffle on February 06, 2011, 09:04:47 AM
Hoping you are both feeling a little brighter this morning xxx Hugs xx
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Post by: JackSpratt on February 06, 2011, 11:26:18 AM
Hoping everyone is feeling better today. :hug:
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Post by: cazzer on February 06, 2011, 13:13:46 PM
sending  :hug: to you both x
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Post by: lizfraser on February 06, 2011, 13:55:41 PM
Gill, you asked abouit Dillon, it was about 4 years ago he had undergone two lots of cruciate ligament surgery (1st lot broke down ).  Vet thought he'd gone over a fence but the ankle had got caught totally ripping knee joint apart.  This was only a month or so after getting shot in other back leg by air gun.  He doesn't go out much now and still sits with back leg turned out awkwardly, but made a really good recovery.

Hope Ducha feeling better today x
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 06, 2011, 17:27:24 PM
Thank you Liz and sending Dillon lots of cuddles  :hug: :hug:

Ducha has produced and the condensed milk worked its wonders very quickly this time but must give him some more today just to ensure maybe it works longer this time  ;D

I would have slept very well cept Franta woke me up howling again and howled for about 2-3 hours, I so wish he could tell me what he wants and I fell asleep later and slept for 3-4 hours so all in all more sleep but so much less day!
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Post by: bunglycat on February 06, 2011, 18:23:38 PM
Glad Ducha seems to be getting better.
Maybe Franta howls through old age /confusion ?
 Sophie has started doing this and last night she woke me up and worried me -i put the light on and she was just sat there looking at me as if to say -whats wrong !??
She does make quite a yowl too and does it periodically throughout the day .
She is almost 17 .
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 06, 2011, 20:07:35 PM
I thought this in October but then in Nov he had another seizure but there is if I search very hard usually a reason..........wants food, cuddles, litter tray changing, jealous, just wants attention, the wrong cat is in the bedroom on the bed........Sasa, or probably other things......wants me out of bed etc etc.

Could even be the weather changing,,,,,,,,,,sigh
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Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on February 06, 2011, 22:47:45 PM
Sending a night night  :cuddle: for Ducha and one for Franta. :cuddle:   Hope they both behave themselves (and the other two) and you  get a good night's sleep Gill.  :hug:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 07, 2011, 02:02:05 AM
Thank you Carol  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 07, 2011, 07:00:07 AM


Morning Gill.  Hoping when you read this, you've managed to catch some uninterrupted zzz's.   :hug: :hug:

Poor Franta.  He does need a lot of reassurance, but then how lovely that he looks to you for that (albeit tiring!).  He's your big baby boy.   :Luv:  He's bound to be feeling a bit worried - after all, Ducha's getting all the attention, and all he's got is a poorly leg, after all  :innocent: 

Sending snoozles to Ducha, just the same, cos am sure his poorly leg is very "importunt" to him, bless his little socks.  Brotherly love, eh?
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Post by: cazzer on February 07, 2011, 10:12:18 AM
Hope you had a good night with them Gill.         have to say my two oldies both yowl as well usually when we are in another part of the house.
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Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on February 07, 2011, 10:42:08 AM
Hope you managed to get sleep Gill, hope Franta and Ducha are both ok  :hug:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 07, 2011, 15:35:55 PM
I have had sleep with interruptions and therefore up really late again, although I think I have had more sleep and less howling...........food and change litter tray, food and change litter tray and change Duchas puppy pads and food, loose track cos am doing stuff in my sleep.

Ducha eating but Franta not very much and in a way Ducha is doing better than Franta.

All cats cept Ducha moulting big time and Franta the most and the first, have never seen him moult like this before and he looks half his old size. Think part of his not eating is furballs and he brought one up yesterday and then had a good nosh.
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Post by: Jasmine on February 07, 2011, 17:23:13 PM
Just catching up with this thread - can't believe Ducha got the flu back on top of everything else. :(

Sending get well wishes to both Ducha & Franta.
 :wish:
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Post by: ChrisB on February 07, 2011, 22:47:49 PM
Gill, Pleased to hear that Ducha is eating and hope you all have a restful night.   Yes, mine are moulting heavily too.
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 08, 2011, 07:00:13 AM
A  big stripey Pppprfffppppt for Ducha this morning, and a gentle prrrrrffp for Franta.  :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 08, 2011, 10:45:04 AM
Thank you all and Paddy  ;D

Sleep, what is bloomin sleep and it wasnt the cats cos just couldnt get to sleep. BUT then Ducha and Franta had food and as I was dozing off I heard mad scratching from the cage and Ducha needed his puppy pad changing and after that could not get back to sleep at all, so gave up!

Misa plodding on and off the bed did not help........sigh
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Post by: cazzer on February 08, 2011, 19:26:11 PM
sending more  :hug:
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Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on February 08, 2011, 20:09:58 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: Hope you are eating ok.

You must try get some sleep so you dont get ill
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 08, 2011, 22:54:48 PM
Just cant fall asleep in bed however hard I try.....sigh Can flake out on the sofa..............

Ducha needs some condensed milk again, tomorrow I think.

Not happy with Franta at moment, he doesnt seem right.

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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 09, 2011, 08:04:08 AM


Oh Gill - not got much time this morning, but wanted to send hugs to you, Franta and Ducha
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Post by: Rosella moggy on February 09, 2011, 10:20:10 AM
Sending sleeeeeeeeeeeeepie vibes for you Gill and hope Franta bounces back to normal asap.  :hug: :hug:

Sending a hug for Ducha and a "well done" for getting on so well with his puppy pads  :)
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Post by: JackSpratt on February 09, 2011, 11:29:19 AM
you're having it rough at  the moment, Gill.  :hug: Hoping you get a little sleep.
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 09, 2011, 13:22:07 PM
I slept  ;D

Could do with even more lol

I think/hope that Duchas leg is more stable cos he is using it to balance while he furiously scratches up used puppy pad  :evillaugh:

Think maybe he is also starting to moult cos saw him madly scratching his fur with his back leg............sigh

Franta only howled at me twice, dont know why the second time but first was followed by mad scratching from the cage and can only think he smelt what I couldnt  :innocent:

Franta has just arrived for a cuddle  ;D
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Post by: ChrisB on February 09, 2011, 21:46:45 PM
Glad you got a bit more rest and sounds like Ducha is improving - has he been OK today ?
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 10, 2011, 00:36:34 AM
He has laid eggs today  :rofl: :rofl:  which was a relief so saved the condensed milk .

Going through puppy pads far too quickly but feel he is doing better and so much better since the last weeks.

He really wants out of the cage but apart from out to let me change the puppy pads, he is going no where  :scared:

Another nights sleep would be lovely  ;D
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 10, 2011, 06:50:32 AM
Gill, so pleased to hear Ducha seems to be settling down to his enforced cage rest.  And glad that you managed to get some decent sleep!  :hug:  Now we just need to get Faberlush Frantaman sorted out.  :innocent: :evillaugh:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 10, 2011, 10:19:47 AM
Bloomin heck, just heard Franta jump off bed!

All cats were asleep but I got very little, not the cats fault, just my skin!

Ducha had breakfast......................Franta is here lol  shoutin grrrrrrrrrrrr...........and also Franta and Ducha was watching to see that Franta had the same as him, every other mouthful  :rofl: :rofl:

Franta is not getting enough sleep and sure thats one reason he is grumpy.
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Post by: cazzer on February 13, 2011, 09:55:50 AM
how things going Gill?
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 13, 2011, 14:29:23 PM
I cant tell how his leg is but we are going through mountains of puppy pads!

Also havent been able to exercise his bag leg cos he hides it........sigh

I think he is doing quite well in his cage now and I allow him to just come out the door so I can change his puppy pads but he would love to go walkies.

Compared to Franta he is so much better behaved and eating well.

We have until beginning of March to go to but will need to speak to his vet cos I dont know what happens then, do I just let him out and hope or what!

He is such a little devil cat that he will be trying to jump onto the bed and all sorts and unless he is in a cage there is no way I can stop him jumping up on things.
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 14, 2011, 07:08:15 AM
 :)  So pleased to hear Ducha's being a good boy.  Shame about Franta....  :evillaugh:  :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 14, 2011, 15:34:31 PM


Gill - I meant shame about Franta jumping about and being norty, not shame he's not doing so well as Ducha, bless him.    Just wanted to clarify that.  We luvs our Faberlush little Frantaman tons, as you know, and "ment noe disrespeck'. "  :shify:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 14, 2011, 16:35:08 PM
Thank you Sue, I am pleased that no disrespect was meant   ;D cos turns out Franta had a good reason for jumping about and shouting and complaining and proberly being a posh cat he has never had a flea before  :innocent:

He is now flaked out asleep and hope he wil stay this quiet until tomorrow when I go and get his stronghold.

Just changed all Duchas Puppy pads and must count how many left, cos ones I bought online still not been sent.....sigh
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 15, 2011, 07:00:08 AM
Oh my word!  No - it proberly wasn't his anyhow - just got the wrong cat, clearly  :shify:   :evillaugh:

Hope Ducha's Puppy Pads arrive today.  Snoozles to all.....  :cat rub:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 15, 2011, 11:47:34 AM
No sign of puppy pads grrrrrrrrrrr, I emailed them last night to ask where they were but no reply as yet!

I woke up late this morning and Ducha was as good as gold, just snoozing in his cage waiting for his food.

I am sure I am going to reap the rewar5ds from him once he is out of his cage  :innocent:
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Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on February 15, 2011, 12:36:03 PM
Glad things are improving
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Post by: Jasmine on February 15, 2011, 14:38:22 PM
There's a puppy pad famine here too at the moment (we have them in lots of places due to Sweep's habits).  OH just told me there's two left - I had previously asked him to tell me when he starts the last pack of 30. :Crazy:

Glad Ducha has taken to cage rest.
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 15, 2011, 16:14:36 PM
Panic Jasmine flap flap  :innocent:

The only place that sells them anywhere cose to me is PAH but the simple solution ones smell horrible and the ones I have ordered dont have any puppy attraction stuff in............as far as I could tell  :innocent:
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Post by: Jasmine on February 17, 2011, 17:33:06 PM
Well, my puppy pad order arrived earlier today... only I was upstairs in bed and OH in the shower, so neither of us could get to the door in time (my Stannah is so slow).  Rung courier and they will attempt delivery again tomorrow.

How are your supplies?
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 17, 2011, 17:53:37 PM
Trouble is they dont wait long grrrrrrrr

Mine arrived yesterday after over a week since the order and I was in bed too, By the time I got halfway down stairs he had his finger on the door bell just pressing!

I think they seem Ok but the first two packs which arent available now,were better but cant be bought any longer.

It was so peaceful without a doorbell but missed 3 parcels ..............sigh

Ducha has learnt how to kick up the puppy pads in the cage and yesterday gobbled his food and made himself sick, so 3 puppy pads later, he was finally dry!
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Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on February 18, 2011, 07:04:27 AM


Well, I reckon Ducha's allowed a little kick-back - he's been generally very well behaved, and I guess mealtimes are perhaps his highlight of the day.   :Luv: Sending gentle snoozles for your splendid little feller.   :cat rub:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 18, 2011, 15:59:12 PM
You are rught Sue, mealtimes are the highlight of his day,

I feel so sorry for the little man and most meal times or puppy pad changing time he comes out of his cage. He is not allowed to do more than that and he pushes so hard with his head I know he jusy wants to go wandering.

I am worried about his back leg cos he has lost the strength in it and would love to let him wander more cos he hides the leg so I cant to catphysio on him.

It seems like 6 yrs already that he has been in the cage but only 4 weeks, am wondering if next week I could let him walk around as long as he doesnt try jumping up on things.................it will make it harder for him to go back in the cage and my real worry is that if he takes off, I just cant move quick enough to catch him.

Maybe I should wait six weeks and then start this and he sleeps in the cage?
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Post by: clarenmax on February 18, 2011, 16:23:11 PM
Wish I had some advice, it must be hard for both of you with the cage rest  :hug:

All I can say is keep doing what you're doing, you're doing great hun  :hug:
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Post by: cazzer on February 18, 2011, 20:59:39 PM
sending lots of  :hug:
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Post by: Stuart on February 18, 2011, 21:15:22 PM
for you and Ducha  :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Liz on February 18, 2011, 21:55:05 PM
Gill maybe you need to talk to the vet before you start letting him out for walkies just to be on the safe side

To stop him jumping you need to have nothing for him to jump at sadly - we know this as Puma made a break for freedom and still had his fixator attached :shocked:
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Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on February 19, 2011, 00:10:28 AM
I have no advice to offer I'm afraid but I acn understand your concern that the leg is getting weaker through lack of use.  :hug:  Daytime walkies and nights in the cage sounds good but I don't know how you stop him from jumping without removing all your furniture .  Maybe the vet will have some ideas.
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 19, 2011, 01:57:43 AM
He has been a norty little man tonight, wet everything in his cage cos he moved the puppy pads and then when out he got round end of cage and tried to escape.......I dont do little places well and was holding his tail but he just pulled and pulled and had to let go cos was scared he would damage himself.

I dont have anywhere he can go where he hasnt got something to jump on cos dont have a lot of space like you Liz...........well guess with less cats  I should have but I dont.....sigh

I need to stop him going up and down stairs so guess he will have to be shut in the bedroom but thats not good either as Misa and especially Sasa are using it during the day and night.

My vet wont have any ideas except to say try not to ket him jump up but that just wont be possible unless I babysit him every minute of the day and thats not possible either.

He is a very stubborn cat as most birmans are and very determined to do what he wants, he was sulking big time after me having to change the whole cage and in one sitting he gave me a complete washer load.

He is definately staying in his cage now for the next two weeks except when he comes out at feeding times and then straight back.

Its impossible to change the whole cage when he is in it and need to get everythingh as flat as possible so he doesnt catch his feet but today he has been kicking up everything.

Just hope the new puppy pads are not causing a problem cos we havent had this with any of the others.
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Post by: cazzer on February 19, 2011, 10:44:17 AM
sorry to hear you had a bad night Gill  :hug:      Hopefully he won't be as naughty tonight
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 19, 2011, 10:51:32 AM
Thanks cazzer and its turned into a bad morning cos Franta has shouted solidly for 3 hours forcing me to get up and ewxhausted again grrrrrrrrr

Thin k its exhausted Ducha too cos he is flaked out asleep, as is the bloomin culpret now!!
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Post by: JackSpratt on February 19, 2011, 11:19:36 AM
:care: I remember the shouting Gill, it can be really exhausting.
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 19, 2011, 15:53:22 PM
Yes JS you are right it is and not feeling very good at present.
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Post by: lau200 on February 19, 2011, 16:07:00 PM
oh gill what stress they are putting you under. tell them i'll send leonie round to duff them up if they don't behave!
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 19, 2011, 16:10:43 PM
 :rofl: :rofl:

Yes its very stressful and get so tired so quickly and to be honest I was telling my mother that I was so pleased that Leonie was with you  :rofl: :rofl:
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Post by: alisonandarchie on February 20, 2011, 12:24:18 PM
Do hope Ducha had a good night and you as well Gill :hug:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 20, 2011, 13:03:47 PM
Ducha did, I didnt .......sigh

He is getting more and more stroppy wanting to get out but thank goodness its not Franta as he would howl all the time!
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Post by: alisonandarchie on February 20, 2011, 14:33:26 PM
Sorry you did not get much sleep. Could he be getting better and that is why he is stroppy :hug:
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Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on February 20, 2011, 14:52:08 PM
((Hugs )) Gill, what a time your having
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Post by: cazzer on February 20, 2011, 15:20:38 PM
hope you have a better night and that he isn't as stroppy.      Hopefully it does mean that he is getting better  :hug:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 20, 2011, 16:08:36 PM
I dont know Alison...........I think he is just fed up of being in a cage and when he semi escaped yesterday he thought..........Right I got her now  :rofl: :rofl:..............cos he keeps trying to go to the same side but I have it blocked!

There is no way of telling how well his wrist is but I dont think its much better, but that could be cos he cant move around much in the cage and he is losing or has lost his muscles.
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Post by: bunglycat on February 20, 2011, 16:33:03 PM
Wont he let you massage it and move it about for him to try and get some more feeling back into it .
What a stressful time  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Did the cream do any good ?
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 20, 2011, 16:36:35 PM
I cant get to the back leg cos of how he lies and too scared to do anything to the broken one,

Have to confess that havent used the cream cos his tail end got better..............would you like it back?
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Post by: bunglycat on February 20, 2011, 18:34:46 PM
No thanks -keep it in case you have any more traumas -though i hope not !
Hope he gets better soon and you get some sleep :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 20, 2011, 23:26:36 PM
Thanks and dont know what will happen from one day until the next  :rofl: :rofl:
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Post by: cazzer on February 21, 2011, 11:35:14 AM
hope you both had a better night  :hug:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 21, 2011, 13:53:39 PM
Ducha fine but I wish ........sigh
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Post by: cazzer on February 23, 2011, 21:41:40 PM
how are you both doing?  :hug:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on February 23, 2011, 21:46:57 PM
Ducha is playing games with his Puppy pads and sulking cos I forgot to put his pillow back and wouldnt move so I could put it at the head end.........sigh

He really is behaving very well but costing a fortune in Puppy pads and have just had to order another 100 and hope they arrive before he goes through 30 more!

As for me I slept very late after Franta started meowing and maybe fell asleep mid-meow cos so tired..........after seeing another post a few mins ago wonder if he is going deaf although he can hear a pouch opening and makes him jump, so guess he can hear me shouting at him in my sleep  :innocent:
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Post by: ChrisB on February 28, 2011, 22:27:08 PM
How is Ducha doing Gill ?
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 01, 2011, 00:12:09 AM
He is walking out of his cage everytime I open the door and is telling me he wants out!

I think he reckons if he uses as many puppy pads a day as possible that will get him out but it wont LOL

I need to check this thread but think this is his 6th week and due out at end! Really scarey and think he is going to confined to bedroom and in cage at night to see how he goes.

Dont want him bopping up and down stairs but wont be able to stop him doing think
gs in the bedroom.

He is eating well and much better than when the other cats can eat his food.

I am going to have to hope that his leg holds  :scared:
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 01, 2011, 00:14:27 AM
Just checked and it will be 5 weeks at end of this week, so two weeks nearly to go.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 01, 2011, 07:20:59 AM


Gill, I know it's small comfort, but I just wanted to point out that both you and Ducha have done fantastically well to get this far.  It's hard on you both.  May the next two weeks pass swiftly and peacefully, and with minimal Puppy Pad disruption.  :) :hug:
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Post by: cazzer on March 01, 2011, 07:57:03 AM
sending more  :hug: and hope the next two weeks go quickly
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Post by: JackSpratt on March 01, 2011, 09:36:16 AM
Agreed. Hope  the time flies by for you both. :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 01, 2011, 15:04:28 PM
Thank you  :hug:

I think now I am more worried about him out of the cage than in, he is very restless and wants to bop about and is just starting to moult.

I can always hope that he is finding his leg more comfortable and its healing giving him more stability but but but............

Anyway 2 more weeks of healing and then eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Stuart on March 01, 2011, 22:44:33 PM


Gill, I know it's small comfort, but I just wanted to point out that both you and Ducha have done fantastically well to get this far.  It's hard on you both.  May the next two weeks pass swiftly and peacefully, and with minimal Puppy Pad disruption.  :) :hug:

I'll second that, sending more healing vibes your way  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 01, 2011, 22:46:05 PM
Thank you Stuart you and everyone very kind  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 02, 2011, 20:17:43 PM
Gill, your worries are understandable.  :hug:  But let's hope Ducha can set his own pace when he gets out of klink.  ;) :hug:

Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 02, 2011, 20:24:08 PM
Hells bells I forgot to ring vet!

Too much excitement about moley  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 02, 2011, 21:01:19 PM
 :rofl: :rofl:  You need a rest Gill.  And mayhap, some cola flavoured juice  ;) :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 02, 2011, 23:04:09 PM
I had some cola flavoured juice a few hours ago.................maybe I need some more  :innocent:

Oh bloomin hell must go and feed Ducha again.........where does the time go!
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 11, 2011, 15:57:53 PM
Ducha allowed out of cage today and his first suicide mission was to try and jump on the bed and fail miserably......sigh

Have put two boxes to create steps but he doesnt understand.

After about 3 hours out I have put him back in cos his little leg is shaking and he is not happy being in the bedroom and wants to get out.

Also causing probs with Franta cos he wants to be on the other side of what ever side there is.....sigh

I think its going to have to be done gradually cos he is obviously very weak muscle wise and bopping around the bedroom is quite a strain...........its his nature to bop around and of course he is investigating everything.
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Post by: Katt on March 11, 2011, 16:02:20 PM
Best wishes for a fast recovery for him.
Hang in there, it`s not mean to be easy.  ;)
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: clarenmax on March 12, 2011, 14:32:59 PM
Why can't they understand that they're supposed to take it easy  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Yvonne on March 12, 2011, 21:16:01 PM
Have only just noticed this, sorry that Ducha has sucg a bad leg injury - hope the leg is better very soon


 :get well:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 12, 2011, 21:23:45 PM
Well he has taken it easy today and he went back into his cage to use a puppy pad,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hes a clean cat and wanted to go to his litter tray...........sigh

Sasa has made sure that without chasing her out of the bedroom I couldnt let Ducha out and block up the door, so he hasnt been out much and he didnt want to roam around while Sasa was there.

He is quite wobbly but was more intertested in using the litter tray than anything else and dont know how to resolve this ..............should I just put a litter tray in the bedroom?
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Post by: lau200 on March 12, 2011, 21:25:00 PM
poor ducha x
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Post by: Janeyk on March 12, 2011, 21:43:10 PM
Awww bless him, hope that he takes it easy  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: alisonandarchie on March 12, 2011, 23:45:48 PM
I think I would put a litter tray in the bedroom.

Do hope the muscles in Ducha's leg get stronger each day :hug:
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Post by: Rosella moggy on March 13, 2011, 00:30:18 AM
should I just put a litter tray in the bedroom?

Yes I think so Gill.  We have litter trays in each bedroom and it's no big deal  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 14, 2011, 07:17:22 AM


Bless him, he's a grand little lad, isn't he?  :)   Hope Miss Sasa (Ma'am) lets him have his space today.  ;)
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 14, 2011, 19:00:30 PM
Litter tray in the bedroom not the problem but him climbing into one cos of his leg. There is a very small one in there now which he has used twice but was hoping he would just continue to use the puppy pads like he does in the cage.

Yes Sasa has given hime space today  ;D
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: alisonandarchie on March 14, 2011, 20:28:15 PM
Glad he is using the tray and also hope he takes more care :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 15, 2011, 20:06:51 PM
He isnt LOL

He has tried to climb up the door of the cage today to look on top of cage. Hooked a claw from bad leg on top of door and was bloomin hanging by it.......sigh

Cant trust him and feel this should be retitled the death defying adventures of Ducha birman!
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: cazzer on March 15, 2011, 20:30:30 PM
oh dear the little tyke  :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: bunglycat on March 15, 2011, 22:44:11 PM
The little so and so  ;D you can tell he is feeling better ,shame he doesn't take it a bit easier though :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 15, 2011, 22:51:18 PM
I would love just to open the main door and let him out but the vet says no stairs and to be honest I dont think he is strong enough to get down them let alone get back up.

Trouble is as you can tell he will try anything........sigh
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 16, 2011, 07:04:14 AM
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the death defying adventures of Ducha birman!


 :rofl: :rofl:  He's one brave and determine little soldier!
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Post by: JackSpratt on March 16, 2011, 07:42:41 AM
Popping on with a  :hug: for you and a  >:( "Behave yourself!" for Ducha. ;)
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: clarenmax on March 16, 2011, 09:15:06 AM
Gosh he's one determined boy  :) :hug:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 16, 2011, 20:22:23 PM
He has been in his cage all day today cos worried he hurt himself yesterday.

However someone else has used his little litter tray in the bedroom and spread the litter every where........sigh
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Post by: ChrisB on March 21, 2011, 22:17:35 PM
How is Ducha doing Gill ?
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Post by: kerri86 on March 21, 2011, 22:31:37 PM
Aww just been reading about Ducha bless him! Hope he's feeling much better soon and hopefully he'll rest a bit more lol. :-) big hugs for Ducha from me Davey and Tinks x
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 22, 2011, 00:45:30 AM
Thank you Kerri  ;D

Today I have expanded his territory a bit Chris, to include the little bit of landing outside the bedroom and he got so excited cos he thought he was going to get access to the bathroom where the main litter tray is, or downstairs!

He was quite disappointed when he found he couldnt do either cos both involve stairs and sat there looking out.

Its so sad but I have to try and keep him as safe as possible.
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on March 22, 2011, 07:01:07 AM

Oh bless him, Gill.  But sounds like he's exploring a bit at a time, even if he is eager to do more.  he's such a good lad.  :Luv2:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on March 22, 2011, 11:57:33 AM
At 0700 he was out of the cage and wanted to stay out, I was doppy and trying to get back to bed and he was playing up big time. He is still in cage at the moment cos Franta was down stairs and shouting.

You are right Sue he has been such a good boy.
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Post by: hollihedge on March 22, 2011, 14:05:45 PM
Just read about Ducha Gill - he is a very brave boy! xx
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Post by: clarenmax on March 22, 2011, 16:16:12 PM
 :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
Title: Re: Ducha needs all your very best Purrs vibes
Post by: cazzer on March 22, 2011, 19:33:01 PM
sending more  :hug: