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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: Lindsey (thefunkyinuit) on October 31, 2010, 11:35:35 AM
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I've started a new thread to try and get away from the negativity of the last one, I know how some people reacted to Ruby's pregnancy but she's given birth now and WILL be spayed as soon as possible. (I'm going to advise that she try to get Azzy booked in for neutering this week)
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My sister got home around 4am this morning after a halloween party to the sound of little squeaks!
Ruby had 3 kittens but unfortunatley only one survived :'( The two that were dead had no marks on them so we think they were probably stillborn, one was a black and white and the other a sandy colour, named Domino and Pizza R.I.P little ones.
The one that survived is a ginger/sandy colour and as it was born on Halloween - I said shes got to call it Pumpkin!
It seems to be doing really well, making lots of noise and suckling away! Ruby also appears to be taking motherhood in her stride. :Luv:
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Hopefully Ruby will be a wonderful mum and Pumpkin will thrive. I think we will need some pics in due course
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I'm going to visit tomorrow night - defo taking my camera! ;D
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I try and stay out of these sort of threads and actually resisted posting but this whole story makes me angry and now we are going to get excited about seeing pics. Oh please.
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Can this just stop please? Whats done is done. End of. I can't express enough how I tried to stop my sister's cat getting pregnant but she did and now this little life has entered the world. The other TWO threads were very negative, I want this to stay positive so just for this one, please keep your negative comments to yourselves. I'm trying to make the best of a bad situation. Geez.
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None of this us your fault lindsay :hug: Nor is it the fault of little pumpkin! What's done is done!
I'd quite like to see the pictures when you have some!! I'm just a sucker for little kitties! ;D
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None of this us your fault lindsay :hug: Nor is it the fault of little pumpkin! What's done is done!
I'd quite like to see the pictures when you have some!! I'm just a sucker for little kitties! ;D
Exactly my point! This thread is purely to welcome Pumpkin into the world - please keep the cynicism and petty comments to yourselves.
Afterall, its not the kitten's fault! :(
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None of this us your fault lindsay :hug: Nor is it the fault of little pumpkin! What's done is done!
I'd quite like to see the pictures when you have some!! I'm just a sucker for little kitties! ;D
totally agree!
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Oh sort your attitude out. If you post asking for advice, then keep posting about an unresponsible situation, don't expect us to gather around like the waltons waiting on seeing pics, without criticising. It makes me angry and I never get involved in anything more than having a laugh here but actually I am so angry at this situation and your attitude about it. People were going off alarming about the BBC2 documentary the other day but this is ok???? What, is she going to keep this cat - is that three unneutered cats then...wow!
Your sister acted irresponsibly and you gathering around fawning over the kitten is playing into the hands of what she wanted. If the thread is a welcome to the kitten, then you are basically congratulating her for her unresponsible cat ownership. I doubt she will have the cat neutered now, she may as well waffle out a few more kittens too
And frankly I am quite happy to get my arse banned for this response. If we are rubbing our hands together with glee at what could have been three kittens born into the world whilst there are hundreds of feral, unhomed and possibly euthanised cats, we are being hypocrites.
It's not you cat but don't personally glamorise a crappy situation
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None of this us your fault lindsay :hug: Nor is it the fault of little pumpkin! What's done is done!
I'd quite like to see the pictures when you have some!! I'm just a sucker for little kitties! ;D
Oh. my. god.
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None of this us your fault lindsay :hug: Nor is it the fault of little pumpkin! What's done is done!
I'd quite like to see the pictures when you have some!! I'm just a sucker for little kitties! ;D
Oh. my. god.
What exactly is the problem Simon??? I seem to remember admiring the many pictures of Ella and Effie you have posted!
Most people on here like looking at pictures of other peoples kitties, we're all cat lovers!
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Oh sort your attitude out. If you post asking for advice, then keep posting about an unresponsible situation, don't expect us to gather around like the waltons waiting on seeing pics. It makes me angry and I never get involved in anything more than having a laugh here but actually I am so angry at this situation and your attitude about it. People were going off alarming about the BBC2 documentary the other day but this is ok????
Your sister acted irresponsibly and you gathering around fawning over the kitten is playing into the hands of what she wanted. If the thread is a welcome to the kitten, then you are basically congratulating her for her unresponsible cat ownership. I doubt she will have the cat neutered now, she may as well waffle out a few more kittens too
And frankly I am quite happy to get my arse banned for this response. If we are rubbing our hands together with glee at what could have been three kittens born into the world whilst there are hundreds of feral, unhomed and possibly euthanised cats, we are being hypocrites.
How dare you?! You are the one that needs their attitude sorting out! I take it you would have preferred all three to have been stillborn then?! How nice of you. I think you are being incredibly out of order. I've already asked you to keep your negative comments to yourself and I suggest you calm down because theres no need for the way you are being and frankly its pure nastiness and becoming quite upsetting. I thought this forum was a nice place!
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Yes. What a shame I didn't remember that. How many litters could Ella and Effie have pushed out for people to admire, Who cares that they don't get homes. let's just get pictures of kittens!! Woop! Woop!
I'm off to gumtree to look at all the pretty kitties posted there! So glad that site exists it is so lovely with all those pretty kitties!!
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Simon, I completely understand your distress. I watched the programme and like you read the threads of the independent rescues struggling to deal with the overload of cats being born due to people being blinkered about just how out of control the situation is.
But Lindsey is actively encouraging responsible cat ownership and has been from the offset by all accounts. We all love fawning over the pictures of kittens born in rescue, and those little ones are the product of irresponsible ownership but noone's getting angry there. (Those kittens aren't the rescues fault, Pumpkin isn't Lindseys.)
I'm sorry to hear that two little ones didn't make it; it's always tragic whatever the circumstances surrounding them coming into the world. Hope Pumpkin, Mum and Dad continue to thrive and your sister will now do the responsible thing and neuter and spay her cats, Lindsey.
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Oh sort your attitude out. If you post asking for advice, then keep posting about an unresponsible situation, don't expect us to gather around like the waltons waiting on seeing pics. It makes me angry and I never get involved in anything more than having a laugh here but actually I am so angry at this situation and your attitude about it. People were going off alarming about the BBC2 documentary the other day but this is ok????
Your sister acted irresponsibly and you gathering around fawning over the kitten is playing into the hands of what she wanted. If the thread is a welcome to the kitten, then you are basically congratulating her for her unresponsible cat ownership. I doubt she will have the cat neutered now, she may as well waffle out a few more kittens too
And frankly I am quite happy to get my arse banned for this response. If we are rubbing our hands together with glee at what could have been three kittens born into the world whilst there are hundreds of feral, unhomed and possibly euthanised cats, we are being hypocrites.
How dare you?! You are the one that needs their attitude sorting out! I take it you would have preferred all three to have been stillborn then?! How nice of you. I think you are being incredibly out of order. I've already asked you to keep your negative comments to yourself and I suggest you calm down because theres no need for the way you are being and frankly its pure nastiness and becoming quite upsetting. I thought this forum was a nice place!
Do I wish all three cats had been stillborn?? What the???? No but three extra cats being brought into this world because the owners simply couldn't be bothered> Believe me I doubt you are half as upset as I am with your three posts on this subject.
Don't worry i actually don;t want to be a member here after these posts. If the moderators can delete my profile please do.
You really do take the biscuit, you are sop caught up you cannot even see why this is wrong.
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Simon, I completely understand your distress. I watched the programme and like you read the threads of the independent rescues struggling to deal with the overload of cats being born due to people being blinkered about just how out of control the situation is.
But Lindsey is actively encouraging responsible cat ownership and has been from the offset by all accounts. We all love fawning over the pictures of kittens born in rescue, and those little ones are the product of irresponsible ownership but noone's getting angry there. (Those kittens aren't the rescues fault, Pumpkin isn't Lindseys.)
I'm sorry to hear that two little ones didn't make it; it's always tragic whatever the circumstances surrounding them coming into the world. Hope Pumpkin, Mum and Dad continue to thrive and your sister will now do the responsible thing and neuter and spay her cats, Lindsey.
JackSpratt please don;t even post that, it fires ion the arse of everything you say you stand for. You are being a hyprocrite
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Simon, sometimes you have to think about things from a different angle to the way you usually do. I am 100% against allowing people to breed from their cats; in all honesty, I think it should be law that a cat is neutered or spayed when it is old enough.
All my cats always have been and I actively assist people getting vouchers organised if it seems they're struggling to sort it themselves.
BUT I also see that Lindsey is trying to make the most of a bad situation. People care about whether Rubys alright, even if they disagree with how her "owners" are caring for her. I'm most definitely not a hypocrite with regards to this - my opinion is very clear; people should definitely spay and neuter their cat, and Lindsey has. Are you telling me you know NOBODY whose animal care leaves a little to be desired?
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You really do take the biscuit, you are sop caught up you cannot even see why this is wrong.
From what I've read, I think that Lindsey clearly could see what was wrong with the situation, she tried her hardest to prevent it from happening and aside from kidnapping the cats and forcibly having them neutered there wasn't much else that she could do. That's why she posted in the first place, to air her annoyance and ask for advice about how she could persuade her sister otherwise. Despite her best efforts the sister didn't listen but it wasn't Lindsey's fault. Now that the kitten is here, I wouldn't expect her to say 'no I'm not going to look at the kitten because of the situation it came from' :-: And I imagine that now the kitten has been born, Lindsey will start pressing the issue of neutering again to prevent the same thing from happening again. At the end of the day, a kitten is a kitten and you have to expect people to want to see it regardless of the situation it came from but this doesn't make them hypocrites
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You really do take the biscuit, you are sop caught up you cannot even see why this is wrong.[/b]
Please re-read my threads.
Don't worry i actually don;t want to be a member here after these posts. If the moderators can delete my profile please do.
Bye
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Yes. What a shame I didn't remember that. How many litters could Ella and Effie have pushed out for people to admire, Who cares that they don't get homes. let's just get pictures of kittens!! Woop! Woop!
I'm off to gumtree to look at all the pretty kitties posted there! So glad that site exists it is so lovely with all those pretty kitties!!
That is utterly and completely not what I meant! It seems to me like you are just looking for an augment.
For your information I do not approve of unregistered breeders breeding from their cat's for profit nor do I approve of sites such as gumtree. I have a female cat who was also neutered as early as the vet would allow as I didn't want her to have a litter.
I enjoy looking at other peoples pictures of kitties as well as posting my own, I'm not suggesting that we should all breed from our cats to get 'lots of cute little kittens' and I resent the implication that I am. If I was as irresponsible as you appear to be suggesting it's unlikely I would be a member of this forum.
Pumpkin is already here, so starting another row about Lindsay's sisters cat is pointless.
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I think the fact that a lot of regulars are ignoring this thread shows what they think of this thread. I only post this to make that point andin the interests of purrs will say no more.
RIP the 2 that didn't make it, I hope you didn't suffer and that your lives were not lost because there was no one in attendance.
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I hope you didn't suffer and that your lives were not lost because there was no one in attendance.
Ditto
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I hope you didn't suffer and that your lives were not lost because there was no one in attendance.
Ditto
I'm sure a party is more important to some :tired:
I think I might be leaving the sinking ship as well.
I will just point out that it was a huge surprise that she gave birth last night, it was thought she had at least two weeks left - If the birth had been imminent then my sister would not have gone to the party.
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I want to say that I am sorry that 2 lives were lost.
I am sorry that yet again Purrs has lost a very valuable member who contributed much to this forum and one I had a great deal of respect for.
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I am gutted that Simon has left Purrs over this - definately not the place it used to be :(
RIP little ones - too precious for this world xxx
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hopefully si will be back when he's had time to cool down
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-definately not the place it used to
that bit I agree with !
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If people stopped throwing their toys out of the pram and 'left' every time they disagreed with something maybe Purrs would still be the place it used to. :-:
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off topic alert!!! (and a mod too!)
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Okkkkk - and steering back on track. Pumpkin IS here now and I'm sure people want to know she and her Mum are doing well.
Lindsey, I'm sure one of the rescue workers can tell you the soonest Ruby can be spayed after nursing the little one. ;) Hope Ruby is coping with motherhood and Azzy isn't too put out by the newcomer. Also hope Azzys neuter goes well.
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Apologies - just this Mod gets very annoyed at this place being badmouthed so much :-[ :( - back to topic , wishing ll the best to little Pumpkin and I for one am always up for an 'awwwwwwww' over kittens.
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RIP little kitties that didnt' make it. I'm glad the remaining little one is doing ok and I'd love to see pics of him - I agree that Pumpkin is a great name.
Let's not forget that Lindsey does not, and never has, condoned the fact that her sister's cat wasn't spayed and became pregnant. I think she was as mad as the rest of us. But I for one am glad of an update, and am interested in the progress of the one kitten who made it. Let's hope Lindsey's sister will now see sense and get Ruby spayed.
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RIP Domino amd Pizza
I hope that little Pumpkin grows up to be a very happy cat.
I didnt have time to read this thread yesterday but after seeing the title wondered if a kitten would be called Pumpkin ;D
Thanks for keeping us updated Lindsay and would also love to see Pumpkin :hug: :hug:
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Hope pumpkin is doing well and Ruby is being a good Mother.
looking forward to seeing the photos
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Hope pumpkin is doing well and Ruby is being a good Mother.
looking forward to seeing the photos
I second that Lindsey! Hope you're okay too! :hug:
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I'm back from visiting :Luv:
Stupidly forgot to take my camera so i've only got some pics taken on a phone! :shy:
Mum and baby are doing really well, Ruby seems to be loving being a mum, shes so laid back, purring like a machine and doing an excellent job of caring for her baby! Shes decided to nest in the bottom of a scratching post under the table in the kitchen which is good because its a relatively quiet place, its nice and warm and she can be separated from Azzy when my sister isn't there. Azzy is being more of a wuss than usual, hes not too sure about the new arrival, he seems wary of Ruby too (maybe she smells different?) Hes quite a timid cat for his size and actually ran off when the kitten cried! :innocent:
Anyway, enough of me waffling on heres some pics! -
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/thefunkyinuit/DSC00117SMALL.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/thefunkyinuit/DSC00119SMALL.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/thefunkyinuit/DSC00121SMALL.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/thefunkyinuit/DSC00120SMALL.jpg)
Mum and dad -
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/thefunkyinuit/IMAG0616SMALL.jpg)
Pumpkin is absolutely gorgeous - almost a carbon copy of Ruby :Luv2:
I spoke to my sister about neutering and Azzy is being done asap and then Ruby will be spayed as soon as she can be.
Apart from all the main reasons for getting them done, shes said she could never go through the heartbreak of having kittens die again.
Rest assured there will be no more kittens!
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awwww I'd forgotten how teeny tiny and vulnerable little kittens are. so cute.
I'm staying clear of the apparent controversy as it's not my place as a newbie.
Glad to hear it's all going well. They are all gorgeous cats.
B :Luv2:
xx
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Its hard to imagine all our furkids were once that small!!!!
Glad little one is doing well, and so pleased that they have agreed to get mum and dad 'done' as soon as they can be :hug: :hug:
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So sorry that 2 of the kittens died
Can I suggest that she gets the male booked in like tomorrow one phone call to the vet is all that is needed and I'm sure that a voucher can be got if there are are any money worries so this can be stopped now
Vets take males at very little notice - as they are used to dealing with trapped cats at no notice as trapping isn't an exact science so a nice male is a bonus!
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I truly hope that this kitten has a long, happy life.
May I point out to all those who have posted that they like to look at pictures that there are lots of beautiful kittens in Rescue/Rehoming that people dont seem to know about, perhaps because they have not caused so much controversy ?
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Definitely - there are some adorable kittens on the Paws Inn site, as well as most of the other rescues. :)
Lindsey, Azzy and Ruby are stunning cats. :) And Pumpkin is a cutie. :Luv:
(I agree that getting Azy to the vets for his neuter ASAP is a good plan. It's a lot more of a simple op for males and if it's funds that are stopping the neuter being done this week your sister can call the CP and they'll send a voucher to reduce costs. ;))
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Very cute and although Im really glad mum and Dad will be done now what a sad way to get the point accross.
T I love looking at all the pics in rescue and re-homing then feel guilty because I cant have one :evillaugh:
love
Tab
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I am so glad that the owners have decided to have both parents done ASAP. I never commented before as wanted to stay out of the controversy. I also hope they find a responsible home for Pumpkin or get him neutered when he is old enough to be done if they are keeping him.
When I read one was called Domino I had to go and check my boy to make sure he was ok, such a shame that Domino and Pizza never made it.
RIP little ones and play hard on the Bridge.
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T I love looking at all the pics in rescue and re-homing then feel guilty because I cant have one :evillaugh:
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Tab I know you do :hug: I was just shocked to learn that some of the posters liked pictures :)
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It sounds like you hvae done an excellent job in re-educating your sister. Well done you! Now the hard part starts with ensuring that all the kittens go to the sort of home that will ensure they are neutered. I wonder if your local CP can provide neutering vouchers to go with each kitten to its new home? Perhaps your sister could offer a donation in exchange for the vouchers.
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It sounds like you hvae done an excellent job in re-educating your sister. Well done you! Now the hard part starts with ensuring that all the kittens go to the sort of home that will ensure they are neutered. I wonder if your local CP can provide neutering vouchers to go with each kitten to its new home? Perhaps your sister could offer a donation in exchange for the vouchers.
Thank you :hug:
There is only one kitten though and my sister has decided to keep it (I say 'it' because we don't know if its a girl or boy yet!) But with regards to neutering when its old enough, she mentioned it even before I had a chance to so I think I've finally got through to her!
My sister's friends are going to be quite disappointed though as they had their heart set on having one of the kittens but having tragically lost 2, my sis feels she can't part with Pumpkin! At least it gives a rescue kitten a chance for a home now :)
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Well done Lindsay and isnt it sad how a tragedy has had to happen to bring her round. At least she is there now and maybe will also spread this around her friends :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Well Done Lindsey - and sorry for the numerical error - I am in the middle of a chicken hatching that has not gone to plan either, so got a little confused (it being early morning here when I posted). Great to hear she has had a major reversal in attitude. You deserve a long hot bubbly bath as a reward methinks!! :wow:
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It's very sad that 2 of the kittens died, but at least your sister has seen the downside of letting her cat have kittens and experienced the heartbreak of losing them. If that ensures she always neuters her cats in future, then at least some good has come out of it.
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There is only one kitten though and my sister has decided to keep it (I say 'it' because we don't know if its a girl or boy yet!)
Pumpkin is a little boy :)
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So sorry to hear of the two kittens that died :( I am however glad that your sister will be getting Azzy and Ruby neutered asap and then Pumpkin too when he is old enough.
Lovely pictures of little Pumpkin, what a sweetie he is.
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There is only one kitten though and my sister has decided to keep it (I say 'it' because we don't know if its a girl or boy yet!)
Pumpkin is a little boy :)
Blimey! How did you get that from those piccies? :-:
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Genetics looking at the colours of Ruby and Azzy. With these colour parents all male kittens would be red and all females would be torties. You can only get red girls if either both parents are red or Mummy is tortie and Daddy is red.
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Genetics looking at the colours of Ruby and Azzy. With these colour parents all male kittens would be red and all females would be torties. You can only get red girls if either both parents are red or Mummy is tortie and Daddy is red.
Wow! Thats amazing! My gut feeling was that its a boy ;D (Also I think if it is a boy she will keep the name Pumpkin - which I LOVE! But if its a girl she wants to call it Peaches because thats the name she wanted to give Ruby at the time but her OH won and got his way with her name)
Thanks for that, i'm gonna go send her a message to tell her! :Luv2:
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Genetics looking at the colours of Ruby and Azzy. With these colour parents all male kittens would be red and all females would be torties. You can only get red girls if either both parents are red or Mummy is tortie and Daddy is red.
I was told by a vet if all ginger will definately be male if it has white on possibility of male. As for genetics it depends on parents and older generations colourings as this will decide coat length, eye colour and markings as if both parents have the recessive gene and this is the gene that both parents carry in their DNA then the kitten can have that colour it does not matter what colour the parents are.
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I was told by a vet if all ginger will definately be male
PMSL! (at the vet not at you) Ahhh I love it when vets pretend to know what they are on about with genetics when most of them don't have a clue :evillaugh: My ex stud cats breeder specialised in the red series (red, tortie, cream, blue tortie) colours and she bred an awful lot of red (and cream) females some of whom went on to be breeding queens so were most certainly not male!
As Pumpkin is not dilute (ie he is red not cream) I was discounting the effect of the dilute gene as this would make no difference to whether he was male or female as if he was cream he would still defiantely be a male with the colours of his parents.
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wish I could get to grips with this lottie, I even got a book but find it really hard going!
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Genetics also have to do with alleles hence why if you get a white cat with blue eyes they are generally deaf as the alleles for both these are close on the chain. Colouring is to do with the red allele being turned on or off.
The supposedly least agressive cat is supposed to be an all black cat (dark brown as no true black cat) as the aggressive allele is close in the chain to the aggressive allele and in the black cat the red and aggressive allele are normally turned off.
Hence why the reputation of a tortie being one of the most aggressive of the cat colours as the aggressive allele as well as the red allele will be turned on in the chain.
Colouring is to do a lot with DNA that is the cat it is a bit like us to dark haired people with brown eyes can give birth to a blonde haired and blue eyed baby depending on what is in our genetics
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That's facinating! Wish I knew more about it.
Our boy is ginger & white, but has a tiny smudge of black fur on the back of his neck. I'd love to know what his parents looked like.
Pumpkin is gorgeous by the way!!
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My goodness he is a male tortie then and thats very very rare ;D
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My goodness he is a male tortie then and thats very very rare ;D
Most definately rare a male tortie is about 1 in 300 that are male so treasure him dearly.
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We had two males torties born in our care last year. Pudding fostered them. :)
We're actually finding the ginger female/male ratio are working out nearly even round here in the last couple of years. We had a ginger/ginger and white litter a couple of years ago and the pure gingers were all female. (think there were 3 or 4 of them) The two born with patches of white were the only male ones. :shocked:
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The litter that Luna came from had her - a ginger and white female, a ginger and white boy, calico girl and tortie/tabbie girl so a bit of a mix. Their mum was mainly white with tortie patches and from Lottie's post I assume dad was ginger.
Hobbes' litter had 3 ginger and white boys (one long haired), a calico girl and an all black girl. Mum was a brindle tortie and goodness knows what dad was :rofl:
We don't get many ginger females round here but we've certainly had more in the last couple of years.
It's fascinating really all this genetics stuff.
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Blimey- I'd never thought of our Munchkin as a male tortie! It is a very tiny patch of black fur, mind- does that still count?
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Kittens in the same litter can actually have different fathers as well as they are reflex ovulators which means eggs are released by doing the act and not like a dog or human which have cycles.
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Hi everyone, quick update and new pic!
Kitten is still as yet unnamed, Sis's OH doesn't like Pumpkin, Sis now wants to call him Oliver but her OH isn't sure on that one either! :tired:
Hes doing really well, nice 'n' plump and healthy, Ruby is the best mumcat i've ever seen, shes loving being a mummy :Luv:
Azzy has chilled out abit regarding being scared of his offspring! Hes still a bit jumpy when he makes noises but has groomed him e.t.c and is friends with Ruby again. Hes booked in for his neuter tommorrow morning.
I had a cuddle with the little man last night, heres a new pic (apologies for the bad lighting, I had to shade the flash so as not to scare/blind him!) -
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c22/thefunkyinuit/154494_1742874411148_1217340862_32024208_1565722_n.jpg)
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Glad kitten is doing well has Azzy had the chop yet?
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Oh bless, what a little sweetie! I quite like Oliver as a name.
I think I'm going to have to get another cat just so that I can call him Pumpkin! Sam's little ginger visitor wasnt allowed to keep his Pumpkin and now Pumpkin #2 isn't going to remain Pumpkin either!
Glad kitten is doing well has Azzy had the chop yet?
Yes, any progress on that front? I hope your sister is aware that cats can go into heat again very quickly after giving birth so if she's not careful poor Ruby will end up pregnant again.
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... yes, and toms can still produce semen up to 6 weeks after castration. :tired:
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Ladies...Lindsey did say Azzy is going for the chop tomorrow morning *shy*
Still risky as Julie pointed out though...fingers crossed there won't be any more accidents...as cute as they are.
How soon can females be spayed after having a litter? Is it a soon as the kittens have stopped feeding? So around 5 weeks?? That will be handy info for Lindsey to pass on to her sister :)
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Females can be spayed as soon as the milk has dried up after a kitten has stopped feeding from her which may mean keeping the kitten once it is 8 weeks old seperated from Ruby.
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... yes, and toms can still produce semen up to 6 weeks after castration. :tired:
people say this all the time but is it so? if they ain't got any testes, surely they can't produce any and sperm doen't live very long.....
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... yes, and toms can still produce semen up to 6 weeks after castration. :tired:
people say this all the time but is it so? if they ain't got any testes, surely they can't produce any and sperm doen't live very long.....
The male has an area where the sperm is stored and matures outside the testicles and this is not removed during castration so yes it is possible.
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... yes, and toms can still produce semen up to 6 weeks after castration. :tired:
people say this all the time but is it so? if they ain't got any testes, surely they can't produce any and sperm doen't live very long.....
The male has an area where the sperm is stored and matures outside the testicles and this is not removed during castration so yes it is possible.
thanks, didn't remember that from a level biology!
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Ooooo I didn't know about the sperm thing! :evillaugh:
No need to worry about any more accidental pregnancies though, although he isn't being neutered until tomorrow and the issue of the 6 weeks after sperm production, Azzy and Ruby have not, and will not be left together unattended (until Ruby has been spayed - just in case!) :)
I did tell Azzy off last night because he sniffed Ruby's behind - I said 'Don't you dare!!!' :evillaugh:
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... yes, and toms can still produce semen up to 6 weeks after castration. :tired:
people say this all the time but is it so? if they ain't got any testes, surely they can't produce any and sperm doen't live very long.....
The male has an area where the sperm is stored and matures outside the testicles and this is not removed during castration so yes it is possible.
thanks, didn't remember that from a level biology!
Not to worry have studied animal anatomy and physiology although a few years ago now