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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: jeremys_mummy on October 05, 2010, 16:00:56 PM
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I have an 18 month old male ragdoll, a few days ago I started to notice he was walking a few steps the sitting down, like he had an itchy bum, in the last two days he is walking with his rump low to the ground, like a German Shepard, So we rushed him to the vet fearing he had fractured his pelvis upon examination by the vet there was no pain reaction as there would be in a fracture, she took bloods and his total proteins are high as are his globulins with very slightly raised glucose, the vet said the glucose is due to stress and nothing to worry about. they have kept him and are x raying him as we speak I'm hoping they will find something there please cross your fingers and hearts for my best friend :'( any ideas? or similar stories? help us x :scared:
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Poor boy, at first I was going to suggest compacted anal glands but if the vet has checked him over, can't be. I hope that they soon find out what's wrong and it's nothing to worry about :hug:
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Its very strange x ray is clear no injury....... the way he moves is very strange the vet thinks it may be neurological? very worrying!
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Sorry to hear you are having problems. :( Do you know his history? Is there any way you can trace the rest of the litter to see if they are having these issues? :shify:
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I am vey good friends with his breeder and they are all very healthy. I am begining to wonder if its nerve damage
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Hope it's nothing untoward :hug: Let us know how he gets on.
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I wonder if Gillian has seen this, what was the problem with Gwynnie when this happened to her??
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Been to the vets to visit him his condition has worsened he cant walk now his front legs are not functioning properly they have started him on antibiotics to try and curb any infection until we recive his lab results tomorow he was so happy to see us :Luv: headbutting purring :Luv: I just hope we come back from this the vet mentioned brain tumors or toxoplasmosis. :Crazy: I'm besides myself please everyone send get well vibes x
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your poor raggie what a worry. Hope he starts to get better soon :hug:
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So sorry to hear this.
Sending healing purrs from my ragdoll gang.
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Been to the vets to visit him his condition has worsened he cant walk now his front legs are not functioning properly they have started him on antibiotics to try and curb any infection until we recive his lab results tomorow he was so happy to see us :Luv: headbutting purring :Luv: I just hope we come back from this the vet mentioned brain tumors or toxoplasmosis. :Crazy: I'm besides myself please everyone send get well vibes x
Sorry to hear this :hug: This happened with my Gwynnie (when she was about 5 or 6 months old), she started to limp, then lost use completely of both back legs, but was still bright (ish) in herself. My vet also scared me half to death with mention of brain tumours and we also tested for toxo (which was negative). The only positive result we got was with the coronavirus test - she tested positive with fairly high titres of 2,500 - is your vet testing for corona?
She was put on antibiotics and steroids while she was kept in at the vets, and slowly started to regain the use of her legs. We had to continue the steroids for a while after she came home, but she was weaned off them and she recovered fully - she's 3 now. It does sound very similar, but hopefully you will know more when the results are back, its very scarey I know :hug:
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My Vet has not mentioned anything about that this is the first i have heard of it what is the test for it? what did you cats blood panel look like thanks
thank you everyone for your kind messages
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I think they have to send blood to the lab to test for corona, but if they are testing for toxo they may well be testing for corona too, but it would be worth asking the vet about it.
I can't remember Gwynnie's blood results I will have a look back and see if I can find them :hug: there were a few things that were raised, but can't remember exactly what.
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Although it isn't a genetic trait as it is in GSDs, it says here that Ragdolls are prone to hip displasia due to their bulk & weight distribution.
http://ragdoll-kittens.com.au/cat-diseases-and-treatments
Poor baby :(
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:hug: :hug: Sounds like you have taken exactly the right action at exactly the right time.
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Would hip dysplasia affect the front limbs though ?.
I think it would be useful to ask about steroids and a coronovirus test as in Gillian's case to see if antibodies are present.
Also, low potassium levels can cause limb weakness and ataxia but unusual in such a young cat.
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I just had a look at the meds Gwynnie was on - prednisolone (steroid) and two types of antibiotic, Baytril and Antirobe - think they were just trying everything because just werent sure what we were up against.
The only things raised on the biochemestry result were phosphate (which was attributed to her age) and CK (creatine kinase).
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Toxoplasmosis and Corona both share a lot of the same results plese test for Corona it is devestating when it mutates to FIP - we lost our darling Gem and 3 kittens to FIP and have her soul remaining kitten a Corona carrier
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Back at the vets today condition seems worse and so does he very lethargic and floppy. has been sick and is not eating they have given him an ultrasound and have found a mass there not sure what it is could be a tumor enlarged lymph nodes etc his bloods will be back tomorrow in regards to fiv fib leukemia. his creatine levels were ove 6,000 167 is the top end of normal.
I'm hoping tomorow brings better news.
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Oh dear, doesn't sound good. Hope you get better news tomorrow, everything crossed! :hug: :hug:
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Sending positive vibes. :hug: :hug:
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At the vets yesterday looking bright :Luv:
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Poor baby :care: Here's hoping for more positive news tomorrow :hug:
He's gorgeous btw :Luv2: :hug:
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Positive vibes from me too :hug:
Bless him :Luv2: :Luv2:
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He is a beauty melts my heart cant bear to see him looking so sad today but i'm keeping positive for a virus as horrible as that sounds he is in the best place. Thank you all for your kind words and good vibes lets hope they are working x :thanks:
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Oh my, how gorgeous! :Luv:
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We are keeping all paws crossed here at the Clan for your boy = we have an awful lot of paws :hug:
Our Minmin is a Chocolate Seale Pointe Ragdoll and sends gentle head rubs to Jeremy :hug:
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Update
He has been moved to intensive for observations his temp is high but he has started eating I'm not sure if this is good or bad news
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You must be in bits with worry :(
I hope the fact he's eating is a good sign.... healing vibes being sent your way :hug:
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Eating sounds positive :hug:
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What food was he on?
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I hope you get to the bottom of his health problems soon :hug: He's gorgeous by the way
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He has Iams hairball and Sheba as a treat.
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Hes been munching away all night and seems very bright according to the vet. I'm hoping for a full day of good news being d'day and all
:thanks: :thanks: Everyone for your healing vibes they seems to be working keep up the good work! :Luv2:
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Awww that's sounds really positive!!
"C'mon lad, do it for yer meowmy"
Look forward to reading more positive and happy news later today then! ;)
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Any updates on how he's doing? :hug:
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Update
The vet is pretty sure he has FIP.
I cant even breath
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Oh, honey, I am so sorry. :'( :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Oh no :( Truly hope the vet is mistaken :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Am so sorry to hear that I hope the vet is wrong but having lost our darling Gem to FIP I can feel your pain if it is :hug:
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Oh no so sorry to hear this. Sending lots of :hug: x
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Thanks everyone my vet said corona virus is very high 1200 titres. I really need help Gillian did Gwynnie just have high corona levels was that the dyagnosis the symptoms sound very simular my vet has said that if it was the corona virus alone and not FIP he would be symptom free My head is in a bad place .
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Unfortunately there is no easy way to confirm FIP until the postmortem stage. :( The presence of a shadow on the scan is very sinister as this is a classic sign of FIP... really don't know what to say to you, honey. :'( :'( :'( :hug: :hug: :hug:
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He seems so much better today i just dont understand. I'm still holding out hope. I cant give up until Rolo does
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Today at the vets x :'(
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aw he is so handsome x
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He's a beautiful cat alright. :briggin: :'( :hug: :hug:
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Thanks everyone my vet said corona virus is very high 1200 titres. I really need help Gillian did Gwynnie just have high corona levels was that the dyagnosis the symptoms sound very simular my vet has said that if it was the corona virus alone and not FIP he would be symptom free My head is in a bad place .
Gwynnie's titres were 2,500, and on that basis my vet did think FIP, thankfully it can't have been as she recovered and its nearly 3 yrs ago now. The symptoms were similar by the sound of it, although Gwynnie lost the use of her back legs, front legs were fine. There was no real diagnosis in her case, they kept her in on the cocktail of drugs I mentioned previously and gradually she started to regain use of her legs.
The presence of coronavirus anitbodies doesnt automatically mean FIP, corona is very common and many cats carry it with no symptoms, but others will have symptoms - Gwynnie's were lethargy, diarrhea and mild sneezing - prior to her losing the use of both back legs. Have you looked at Dr Addie's site about FIP? http://dr-addie.com/index.htm .
Rolo certainly looks quite bright in those photos :Luv2: :hug: what meds have they got him on?
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Demand a second opinion!!
I really hope he's gonna be okay. Beautiful pics :Luv:
Big hugs to you and Rolo :hug: :hug: :hug:
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I really hope the high titres are just his body fighting it, as cats can fight it and it not develop into FIP, if you do some research there are 4 'effects' when they come into contact - they will fight it completely and then be immune, they will fight it but become a latent carrier (so it might flare up in old age), they can't fight it that well, so it turns into dry FIP (which can be quite slow), and they can't fight it at all, which turns into wet FIP (whihc is the worse). The mass doesn't look good though, have they taken a sample from it at all?
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He seems so much better today i just dont understand. I'm still holding out hope. I cant give up until Rolo does
I would be exactly the same. As long as he is comfortable, there is some hope. I'm not up on FIP but understand Diane Addie is the expert http://www.dr-addie.com/ I only know that cats with high titres have managed to recover over time. :hug:
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Its the day we get his test results they want to do a biopsey depending on the results but rolo is keeping is strong he is wooing the vets and staff with cuddles and is still eating well we are off for a visit this afternoon x
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Fingers crossed for the results and visiting time. Let us know how you get on.
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No More news but enjoyed our cuddles :Luv2: will be monday what a grueling weekend but he is eating very well!
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:Luv: what a gorgeous boy. Glad that he's eating and keeping fingers crossed for good results xx :hug:
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Have everything crossed for you both :hug:
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Update
The vet rang this morning the toxo was ruled out and the protein levels we were waiting for to confirm FIP are higher than normal but no where near high enough as they would be with FIB so still no diagnosis he is having a biopsy at the moment we will hear after 4pm on his wellbeing there is some more improvement today he is still eating well and giving everyone cuddles :Luv2: He is coming home soon hopfully as the results of his biopsy can 2 weeks thats pending further improvement!! :Luv:
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how horrible for you all, fingers crossed for the beautiful Jeremy :hug:
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Its rolo that is the poorly one but thank you very much for you kind words everyone will update you all when i hear after his surgery the vet has sugested i get a feliway plug in for when he comes home & a nurishment paste to support his immune system any recomendations on where to get the at a reasonable cost? and how best feliway is used?
Thanks x
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hope he continues to do well :hug: He certainly is a handsome lad
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He is a beauty very concerned about his weight loss though he is only 3.88kg very underweight :( he should be at least 5.5kg poor boy
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Having ragdolls myself I really hope youre furbabe gets better soon.
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Update
just been for a visit he is very wobbly well falling all over his cage after anesthetic he pooped all over himself so he has a bath :( he is coming home tomorrow to wait for his results so we have set him up a hospital ward in our living room. :Luv: Just a waiting game now op went as expected had a few very enlarged lymph nodes so the vets have taken multipule biopsy's which have been sent off to Glasgow and will be back around two weeks will keep you all updated.
Thanks once again for all your support my Rolo & our other cat Jeremy really cant thank you all enough :thanks: :hug:
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It will be lovely for you to have him home. Fingers crossed for the results.
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Fingers crossed for the test results, and hope he enjoys being at home
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Update
My boy is home ;D hes had his tablets ground in some tuna which he wolfed down :) his muti vits and is currently fast a sleep next to me while we are watching hancock :) so nice to have him home and he is very settled and calm I have tryed up a rota for my family so he is never alone as he has to be barrier nursed, kept totally seperate for our other cat, so we are all going to take turns to stay in here overnight. :shy:
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Great news :) :hug:
I'm sure he is happier at home with mum and he will thrive :Luv2:
Good luck with the results :crossed:
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So pleased he's home and have everything crossed that this isn't FIP and that he can pull though :hug:
Big :care: to Rolo
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Glad that your boy is home and keeping fingers crossed for him xx :hug:
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Thanks everyone x :Luv: :innocent: Just keep saying my prayers that he can pull through x
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Sending lots of love, huggles and healing vibes for the beautiful Rolo xxx Get better soon handsome xxx
and big :hug: for you xxx
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Topping up the raggie vibes.
All my raggies send their love.
Delphi, Bertie, Ellie, Saba, Christian and Skye.
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Thanks :hug: he is at the vet tomorow for a check up she is rushing the biopsey through we shoukd have the results by the end of the week x
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Glad to hear he's home and eating ok :hug: hope he continues to improve.
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Update
Not much to say he has put some weight on he is now 4.09 so thats something. One of his staples came out he caught it on the litter tray ouch!! :( hes back at the vet wednesday 20th to have his staples out keep up the vibes it wont be long before we know xx
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That's good news that he's gaining a bit of weight, still have everything crossed for some good news from the biopsy :hug:
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Keeping fingers crossed for good news xx
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Update
Its bad news I'm afraid they have now ruled out all other possibility's and are saying he has FIP. Our vet has told us treatment is unsuccessful and pointless so we should just keep him confortable until a time when we will have to put him to sleep. I'm devastated. does anyone know of anything we can do please let us know.
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I'm so sorry - I lost a 5 month kitten to FIP, and it's a horrible horrible disease
there is nothing you can do, alas, except love him loads :hug:
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Oh, hunny, I am so, so sorry. :'( :hug: :hug: :hug: I didn't want to say too much earlier in the thread but FIP was my first thought given the evidence you gave us. :'( There is nothing that can be done. :doh:
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so sorry to hear your news about Rolo :hug:
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Words cant really express how i feel he is like my baby i love my cats more than anything i cant bear the thought of losing him it breaks my heart he is my best friend and the thought of losing him tears me apart at the moment the only thing keeping me going is that he is a very happy cat the vet has said to keep our two cats apart but the are very close and missing each other does any one know if this is necessary?
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You must keep them apart and have your other cat tested at some point
Having lost a Mum and 3 kittens to FIP I know how devestating it can be - I have the soul surving kitten baby Beijing she is now 2 and a half but is a Corona carrier so stayed here with us and has a happy life
Gem lasted 6 weeks after diagnosis and was gently put to sleep when she stopped eating our thoughts are with you :hug:
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So, so sorry to hear this :( :hug: I can only imagine how devastated you must be :hug: :hug: :hug:
I just don't know what to say :( :hug:
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I'm so sorry :hug:
Spoil him rotten now :hug: :Luv2:
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I am so sorry you have had such devastating news -poor boy :'( :'(
I too lost one around 10 years ago to FIP .
I did have Sophie at the time (who was 5 years old -but i had no idea Bonnie had FIP then although we were at the vets most weeks .
I only had her about 7 months before i lost her but in all honesty as i didn''t know till the end , my 2 weren''t seperated , but they weren''t close either .
I still have Sophie (as well as 4 others now ) and i was extremely lucky that she was ok and is now almost 17 !
I can only send you loads of these :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Yes, spoil him to bits for the time he has left .
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I'm sorry to hear the sad news :(
Have you looked at Dr Addie's site. I don't know if your vet has considered trying interferon http://www.dr-addie.com/treatment.htm
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Words fail me at this very sad time. Grab every second of time left with Rolo and enjoy your snuggles together. Life is so unfair :'(
Massive hugs to you :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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I am sorry to hear this, I too have lost a cat to FIP and kept mine separate once it was suspected, but the vet said it wasn't worth testing my other cat, as it only shows if they have come into contact with the Corona virus, and most cats can shrug it off. I am sure Dr Addies site gives tips on dealing with things like scratching posts and surfaces. I have only heard of Interferon being successful with dry FIP, not wet.
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He is on antibiotics I have no idea why and he is going onto steroids & interferon on Wednesday he is still bright any one any ideas on how to get him to put weight on any diets etc?
Thank you everyone for your kind words our time together now is very precious :( I'm holding every moment dear :(
:hug: to everyone thank you x
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Have you tried Hill's a/d? it is high in calories and usually given to convalescent cats. Royal Canin also do a convalescent food http://www.royalcanin.co.uk/vet/clinical_diets/feline_clinical_diets/convalescence_support.aspx
If he will drink it, cat milk is good. The supermarket stuff is OK but just lactose reduced cows milk. The best stuff is cat replacement milk usually given to kittens - it is a powder you make up. There are a few brands, cimicat, sherleys (available in PAH), and Royal Canin babycat milk are a few.
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What are they basing the diagnosis on - is it just from the high coronavirus titres? if so, that isnt a definitive diagnosis of FIP, its only confirmation he's been exposed to coronavirus, which is a very common virus, many cats carry it. If your cats have previously been close then its highly likely your other cat has coronavirus antibodies anyway - that doesnt mean he will get FIP. Your other cat can't 'catch' FIP from Rolo, FIP itself isnt infectious, only the coronavirus that may, rarely, cause FIP. Do look at Dr Addie's site it will put things in perspective.
I think its good that they are treating with antibiotics and steroids, its what Gwynnie was on when they thought it was FIP with her. I have no experience of interferon, but its definitely worth trying and the fact the he is still bright in himself and eating is sounding positive to me. :hug:
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I'm only speaking from experience here & not knowledge, but our CP branch had a Siamese cat in a couple of years ago. She had a very high titre, but it hadn't turned into FIP. Brigid at Siamese rescue offered to take her. From what I remember, she was kept in a separate pen, and within 6 months, her numbers were down so much, that she was able to be rehomed :) - I understand you have to be realisitic but as hard as it is, try to stay positive for him & for yourself :hug:
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his daignosis is based on his high titres proteins in his blood the antaxia weight loss enlarged lymph nodes.
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Has your vet submitted a sample to Glasgow for testing? http://www.dr-addie.com/WhatIsFIP.htm#uk
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yeah blood and biopsy
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My cat with FIP was on antibiotics too, not sure if she was on steroids as well though. if his stomach can tolerate it, it might also be worth trying him on kitten food, but if the weight is down to FIP, you might not be able to do much about it
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Oh sweetie I am so so sorry :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Hello everyone hope you are all well me and my boys have been at the vets today, well news is much the same his walking is slightly worse he is knuckling slightly on his other front leg now which is devastating news, we have started on interferon injections today every other day then we will drop down to once a week at £83 an injection we are soon going to reach our vet fees limit on the insurance. his weight is the same so no better or worse. His eating isn't as good as it has been we had one day were he ate hardly anything better again today but that could be the fresh salmon. he has had his staples out and all is well with healing. his eye exam was normal and temperature.
Cuddle to all of you from Rolo x
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Thinking of you and the gorgeous Rolo :hug: It breaks my heart to think what you must be going through all I can say Hun is cherish every moment with him. xxx
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Fingers crossed for the Interferon
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So sorry hun to hear about Rolo my sisters 6 month old kitten has been diagnosed with wet FIP and i was wondering if the Interferon injections are working yet i know Rolo has only just started his injections but any info will be a huge help my sister is in total bits so we can understand how you are feeling at the moment :hug:
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Sending hugs and hope that the Interferon injections help a lot :hug:
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So sorry hun to hear about Rolo my sisters 6 month old kitten has been diagnosed with wet FIP and i was wondering if the Interferon injections are working yet i know Rolo has only just started his injections but any info will be a huge help my sister is in total bits so we can understand how you are feeling at the moment :hug:
Hi the only change is he has lost some of his appetite we are battleing with him to get him to eat, Rolo has dry FIP but we are all very hopful I'm really sorry to hear about you sisters baby if i can help in any way PM me x
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Sorry to hear his appetite is poor. When Clapton was close to the end (it was CRF), we struggled to get him to eat. In the end, I hit on buying kitty junk food for him and he did eat some - Whiskas Dry biscuits. Any food is better than no food and at least it has the right vitamins in for cats, despite the high cereal content.
Fingers crossed for you & Rolo :hug:
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Just topping up the hugs for you and Rolo :hug:
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Update
Today is bringing good news seem huge improvements in Rolo in the last day and a half eating well doesn't even cover it, anything and everything yes plenty of kitty junk food whiskers Felix and some luxury's walk is much better on his front legs only the odd knuckling on the left so very happy he seems much better in him self very vocal and cheeky hopfully a sign of things to come
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oh that is good news. Hope he continues to get better
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I've been following rolo's progess but haven't posted before because I wasn't too sure what to say.
Its sounds like interferon and the positive vibes and your care (of course) has definately helped him :D
Here's a little *yay*
I hope he continues to improve
*hug* for you too hun, this must have all been really hard for you
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I'm so pleased just uploading some videos in you tube to try & promote a bit of awareness will post a link x
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Really pleased to hear he is feeling better an hoping every day brings more improvement for him .
Loads of these for you and the handsome Rolo :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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we can but hope x :thanks:
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I am glad there has been some improvement, dry FIP is the better out of the two
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUw2PevhR
this is our video to raise awareness
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Hello everyone hope you are all well Rolo seems to be responding well to treatment but we are trying not to run before we can walk as we are on a very long road. Eating is normal and he hasn't had a raised temperature his walking is 100x better i am going to upload a new video of his walking just to get any views on what we can do to help him. he is very bright in hemself and enjoying his junk food much to my dislike! :P
I have emailed Dr Addie for her advice as according to her flow chart he doesn't have FIP???? any advice on that! ?
Hugs to you and thank you for supporting us through this awful time your all fantastic :hug:
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Sounds like you have good reason to be cautiously optimistic :hug:
Although I don't have any experience with FIP, with CRF, they say "treat the cat, not the disease" and it seems to be working with Rolo :)
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UPDATE
he is much the same lymph nodes have returned to a normal size so that is very good news legs are the same he has had a slight head shakking today a few times rang the vets they said just to keep an eye on him he also keeps digging at the floor or sofa like he is in a litter tray but never goes to the loo? any ideas?
Fingers crossed
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Is he squatting as well as digging? - if so, it could be cystitis which is dangerous for boys if they get a blockage. Not sure what else it could be - they are such complicated things :Luv2:
The other things are sounding good though :hug:
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Things have taken a turn for the worse he has a swolen abdomen vet said it is probably fluid :( he is back to be drained tomorow :(
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so sorry to hear he's worse. Hope the vet can sort him out tomorrow :hug: x
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:hug: to you all
I just want to add that this is sadly the start of the downward spiral and I can only add prepare yourself :hug: :hug:
We lost our Darling Gem to this terrible diease 2 years ago so know how hard it is
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I know its horrible he doesnt deserve this nor do any of them i hate FIP!!!!
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So unfair :( :hug:
Give him a gentle kiss from me, must be just awful for you :( :( :( :hug:
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I am sorry to hear he is developing fluid in his abdomen. Personally, I wouldnt get it drained too many times.
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Good news he has just put on weight no fluid! what a rollercoaster ride didn't sleep a wink last night torchoring myself :hug:
Once again thank you all for your support!
Kiss and cuddle given from all of you! x
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Please give him a stroke and a gentle cuddle from me. :hug:
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Great news :hug:
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good news :hug:
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That's good news, you must just be on edge the whole time :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Glad to hear it is just weight and not fluid
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Glad to hear the good news give him a huge :hug: from me and my clan x
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Update
Some fantastic news today he has come on in leaps and bounds his lymph nodes have decreased to a normal size showing signs the virus is no longer infecting them his walking has improved he is lifting his bum!!!! and no longer walking on his hocks but on his paws he is still slightly sqautting but excellent news has put on some weight!!! which is an excellent sign cant help but feel the treatment is working :) :) :) :wow: :Luv:
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Fabulous news -long may he continue to improve :hug :hug:
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what great news!
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wonderful news!
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More improvement today with his walking almost returning to normal ;D
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Incredible :)
Probably wasn't what they thought - thankfully?
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So pleased for him and for you :hug:
Does this mean there's a possibility the diagnosis was wrong? Really hope so :hug:
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I am so happy for you as are my raggies.
I cant be FIP. He wouldn't be improving.
At least I really hope it isn't FIP.
Go Jeremy ;)
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I agree with Philip and the others, sounds like they got it wrong. It can't be FIP. Which is excellent news! :)
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Hi everyone,
I agree I don't think he has FIP as the improvements we have seen are huge! he is now stretching and pushing his bum straight in the air which he hasn't been able to do and jumping, should i still keep my Kitty's separate its killing me we shut our other cat out of the sitting room & he stands at the door & cries :( FIP has been highly suspected but never confirmed the ruled out every thing the knew of any ideas??
XX
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What effect did the vet say the meds he is on would have? Is his recovery what they were expecting would happen and only short term because of the meds? :hug:
I'd be pushing for a thorough re-examination, have absolutely everything crossed that Rolo does NOT have FIP and goes on to make a full recovery. What a rollercoaster :hug:
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I know certainly a rollercoaster, They said the meds would make him feel better but it is just prolonging his life and he will just get worse! and that once neorological symptoms set in which "they have" that we wouldnt have long :-[
So confusing
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I would definitely ask for a second opinion, don't worry about offending your vet - firstly they are animal lovers so will want him to be well just as much as you do and secondly Rolo is all that matters here :hug:
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very confusing???
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FIP in its dry form is notoriously difficult to diagnose, so your vet could only have been giving it his best guess anyway
on the other hand you do need to know what else the weakness could have been due to, if not FIP
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It definately sounds to me like a mis diagnosis - I truly hope so :hug:
If it was me I wouldnt be separating my cats because even if it had been FIP they have had contact anyway (hope that makes sense)
Love, huggles and positive vibes xxx
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Please get your vet to test for Toxoplasmosis as it gives high titre values like FIP and can give a false reading that makes the vet think it is FIP having been throughn this with our darling rescue the late great Miss Gem who sadly had FIP and tragically died.
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From what I know, The dry form of FIP causes lesions to form in areas like the lungs or brain. If it is FIP then the prognosis is very poor and from what you are saying he is doing really well. The veterinary textbooks I have talk about the FIP disease process being one that progressively gets worse. What meds is he on ?. What rationale is you're vet giving that these meds are prolonging Rolo's life ? You say about neurological symptoms kicking in, but didn't he already have neurological symptoms that have improved ?. In Dry FIP don't these symptoms get worse despite treatment? I'm really hoping this isn't FIP.
Very confusing case.
There is no point in separating Rolo from your other cat. It is the coronovirus that is infectious and if it is coronovirus that is to blame for all this you're other cat would have picked it up by now.
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They said the meds would make him feel better but it is just prolonging his life and he will just get worse! and that once neorological symptoms set in which "they have" that we wouldnt have long :-[
This is exactly what my vet said to me about Gwynnie when she went through the same thing (or very similar) to Rolo - and that was about 3 yrs ago now! I'll see if I can find the thread about her, it all sounds so similar, the lethargy, poor appetite, complete loss (in Gwynnie's case) of use of back legs, high coronavirus titres etc. :hug:
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Its just a nightmare some days i feel as if i i want to craw under the bed and never come back out again I just dont know where to go there is a RSPCA event on tomorow in my town so im off to the vets to pick up all his test results and then taking him there see what they think I'm going to ask for him to be re-tested for everything.
My hopes are so high at the moment i just feel like it could all come crashing down on us Horrible I just hope the only way is up plus he has been losing weight for about 3 months and now had neurological symptoms over a month.
he has been tested for toxoplasmosis which was negative.
Gillian if you could find gywinnes thread that would be good x
Yeah Rolo was admited for neurological symptoms which did get worse but are now getting better very very confusing.
Should I get our other cat Jeremy tested?????
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Hun, I wouldn't bother testing Jeremy. They can only test for Corona virus (which mutates into FIP). Corona virus is highly contagious, the horse has already bolted. :tired: They've already been living together for way long enough to cross infect each other months ago. I don't see the point in keeping them seperate now. :shy:
I can understand the frustration but if you want or expect a definitive diagnosis to say one way or another, I'm afraid you won't get one to say 'FIP' as it can only really be confirmed at postmortem. :innocent: If it matters at all, I doubt it really is FIP that's effecting Rolo as I've never heard a cat with certain FIP improve the way Rolo seems to be improving. :)
Corona virus more often than not is spread by cats sharing a litter tray and is much more common when many cats live together. Rescues almost expect to see it in over-crowded houses or houses where cats in poor condition or health are sharing facilities. In fact, Corona virus and the risk of FIP is one of the real biggies to look for when assessing cats that come into rescue with obvious health issues from a crowded and neglected or run down condition. I have no doubt Corona virus is the root cause behind many of the horror stories going around about mass euthanasia in hourding cases. It's a vile, vile disease. >:( Unfortunately it will never go away until the Corona virus goes away and sadly there is no vaccine. :tired: The only way to prevent it is to segregate known carriers from other cats and do not allow them to share trays and to not breed from affected cats. In Rolo's case (and if it IS the dreaded Corona virus at the root of this), either he was born with it or he has in fact caught it from Jeremy.
No one knows what makes the Corona virus mutate and trigger FIP, although Rolo does fit the profile for developing full blown FIP being still quite young. But one thing is sure.... many, many cats carry the Corona virus without ever developing FIP. It is posible Rolo is carrying the Corona virus but it is something totally different and so far undiscivered that if making him ill... So what's the point of testing Jeremy? What are you going to do if he's positive other than worry? Even if he is positive, he might never fall sick. ;)
The only circumstances I would test Jeremy is if at some point in the future you want to get another cat. Then naturally I would say if Jeremy is positive, don't adopt another cat while Jeremy is still with you. :scared:
Good luck, hun... believe it or not your case is frequently on my mind as I can see how scared you are and just wish I could offer a magic answer. :'( :hug: :hug: :hug:
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http://www.purrsinourhearts.co.uk/index.php/topic,9685.msg168104.html#msg168104
this is the thread about lovely Gwynnie
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Thanks Dawn for the treat Rolos' case is very simular to Gwynnies hopfully with simular prognosis.
Thanks Julie for your support and kind wishes you right about Jeremy I will just worry. Rolo came from a Breeder she had about 8 cats but everything was clean & we are not overcrowded here we have two cats and I am a litter tray cleaning machine lol
RSPCA was a inconclusive I just stood there and cried, felt so stupid..
Thanks everyone xx
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I know it must be so difficult Hun but try and stay positive xxx
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I have heard of Interferon helping with Dry FIP, there is someone on the US forum that has 2 cats that I am sure have had more than a year of good health because of Interferon, I am just trying to find who it is now. Dry FIP has a better prognosis anyway, even without treatment they can have up to a year, rather than a few weeks with wet.
ETA - I have found the womans' initial thread when one of the cats was diagnosed, and two people had used Interferon themselves and said it isn't a very pleasant drug to use, it has really nasty effects and makes them feel really poorly, so I hope it is better for cats.
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Sorry havent seen this thread before and sending best wishes for Rolo and it does sound that he has really improved :hug: :hug:
Julies answer was very sensible I think and know that Gwynnie is just fine now ;D
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Thanks everyone x
Rolo still doing very well his weight is now 4.4 it was 3.83 so great news his walking is still very good more bloods taken today im still not convinced its FIP i will post his bloods is anyone knows anything about FIP
UREA 9.6 (5-7-12.9)
CREA 128 (71-212)
PHOS 2.29 (1-2.42)
CA 2.53 (1.95 -2.83)
TP 104 (57-89)
ALB 28 (22-40)
GLOB 76 (28-51)
ALT 10 (12-130)
ALKP 32 (14-111)
TBIL 4 (0-15)
CHOL 2.66 (1.68-5.81)
AMYL 846 (500-1500)
GLU 9.96 (4.11-8.83)
NA 163 (150 -165)
k 3.9 (3.5-5.8)
CL 117 (112-129)
RBC 6.8 (5-10)
HCT 34.8% (30-45)
HGV 9.9 (9-15.1)
MCV 50.9 (41-58)
MCH 14.41 (12-20)
MCHC 28.3 (29-37.5)
RDW 18.2 (17.3-22)
WBC 10.42 (5.50-19.50)
NEU 17.17 (2.5-12.50)
LYM 1.96 (0.40 -6.80)
MONO 0.66 ( 0.15-1.70)
EOS 0.57 (0.10-0.79
BASO 0.06 (0.00-0.10)
PLT 228 (175-600)
APG 660
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I dont know anything about blood readings but they look well within ranges except fot TP............dont know what that is though.
I would hasve thought that as he is putting on weight and as long there is no build up of fluid causing that, he is doing really well.
If he is improving steadily and gradually it doesnt sounf like FIP but of course I am not a vet.
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I did a bit of Googling.... TP= Total Protein. I also notice Globulin is high. (Another protein). From what I've read, these two readings are quite significant. I can see why a vet would diagnose FIP. :scared:
I discovered this link and it may be quite informative for you.
http://www.lbah.com/feline/fip.html
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Thats a very good link Julie and will add it to our links.
Lets hope theses two items improve and also Rolo continues to improve :hug: :hug:
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Hi
thanks for your link very helpful he is still doing very well today just waiting on his results hopefully there will be huge improvment there too
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Update
Hi purrs
Rolo is doing amazing! ;D Still waiting on his bloods. he now has pretty much no symptoms and seems to be a very well cat has gained more weight lymph nodes down and neurological symptoms almost non existant only unable to use claws in front right other than that normal still digging after or before eating?? vet has no idea on that so if anyone has any ideas that would be good
Thanks for all your support
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Wow!!! That is amazing!!!!! I am so happy for you all. I hope he continues to totally get better :)
My rescue kittens both dig around their food before and after eating. I'm sure I read something about it being related to them being in the wild but I can't remember exactly what though.
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What wonderful news - I am so pleased for you and Rolo xxx
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I know so fantastic i just cant belive it!! he is doing so well! god love him I just googled the digging thing its an instinct thing he is trying to bury his food to save it for later! lol how cute! :wow:
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I thought it was something like that...but didn't want to make them sound like squirrels lol! Its so cute when the little ones do it, I used to see them do it in the wild before I trapped them :)
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I thought it was something like that...but didn't want to make them sound like squirrels lol! Its so cute when the little ones do it, I used to see them do it in the wild before I trapped them :)
Trapped the squirrels or cats! lol OJ usually only seen in ferals lol or Pedigree Ragdolls! :rofl:
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Lol! I didn't read it like that when I posted it lol...the cats of course *shy* lol
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fab news!! my oscar does the digging thing and star will actually use a table cloth to cover her plate (yes oh spoils her, she has breakfast at the table lol!)
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Lol little sweethearts! mine eat on the table too lol!
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So pleased he seems to be on the road to recovery, no-one likes a smart ass but in this case proving the vets wrong would be fantastic! :)
Riley often does the digging thing too, more often when he doesn't like the food on offer (he's been on RC sensitive at the mo rather than normal food). Is Rolo on a special food that isn't quite as yummy as his normal stuff?
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He is on RC fit 32 and whiskers used to be on iams dry but he is doing it with any food only started doing it about 2 weeks ago bless X
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Rolos walking now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVghDeilAoY
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Fantastic :) Go Rolo! :Luv2:
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Wonderful news
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Wonderful news.
I love the video you have made
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That is fantastic - must have something in my eye, they are all watery - LOL
Way to go Rolo xxx what a huge relief that you didnt take the vets word and give up on him xxx
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wonderful news!
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http://www.weekofthecat.co.uk/viewpet?id=377&s=77143919d1234297079f075357988f3b4cef9d5242e855.56455595
Please Vote for my Rolo
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awww how cute voted!
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Hello everyone,
Feeling very down today we reduced Rolos dose of setriods and he seems a bit worse (very slightly) on his legs so we have put up his dose again. It feels like a kick in the face and I think I need to accept that FIP will win its just a matter of time
can't seem to deal with it
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lots of :hug: to you both x
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Lots of Love and :hug: xxx
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Still thinking of you :( :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Feeling very down today we reduced Rolos dose of setriods and he seems a bit worse (very slightly) on his legs so we have put up his dose again. It feels like a kick in the face and I think I need to accept that FIP will win its just a matter of time
This happened with Gwynnie too when we started to reduce the steroids, but it was temporary and just her body adjusting, hope its the same for Rolo :hug:
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Feeling very down today we reduced Rolos dose of setriods and he seems a bit worse (very slightly) on his legs so we have put up his dose again. It feels like a kick in the face and I think I need to accept that FIP will win its just a matter of time
This happened with Gwynnie too when we started to reduce the steroids, but it was temporary and just her body adjusting, hope its the same for Rolo :hug:
Hoping it is the same for Rolo. :hug:
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Lots of love to Rolo :hug: :hug:
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Hope Rolo gets better , sending loads of healing vibes and :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: to the little fellow.
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Thanks Every one
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I was just thinking about you and Rolo, how is he doing?
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Hi its very much swings and roundabouts he is still walking well cant seem to get him to gain weight he is still very happy and playful so we just keep going even if we are not moving forward he is quite clumbsey on his legs bless him he does have FIP so all we can hope for is more time thank you for thinking of us
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Big :hug: xxx
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Oh no :( I was hoping that the steriods may have levelled things out like they did with gillian's gwynnie.
Fingers crossed for some improvement or at least rolo remaining happy and comfortable for as long as possible xx
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Is there any update? :hug: :hug:
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Hello Everyone,
Updates Rolo is doing fantastic and his neurological exam is now normal lymph nodes normal, alb/glob normal!! What is going on!! AAAHHHHHH sorry needed to get that out its nearly been 5 months and he still isnt reciveing the treatment he needs to help him with what ever may be going on at a lose end his appetite is great but he is so tiny you can feel every bone in his body he weighs 4kg very very tiny for a Male neutered Ragdoll. My vet has now decided he doesnt have FIP but others are saying dont jump before you can walk!
Hope you are well
Rolo & Nichole
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So pleased Rolo is proving the vets wrong, hope you can get to the bottom of things and get some weight back on him :hug:
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hope he carries on doing well x
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I dont think Rolo would be with you still if he had FIP, but something is going on to stop him putting on weight. :hug:
However as long as he doesnt lose anymore and is stable that is positive ;D
I cant remember how old Rolo is?
Has he been tested for thyroid cos that would probably be the most obvious.
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He is two years old He has had more test done so we are waiting for results to see what happens
fingers crossed
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What a wonderful update. So pleased for you :)
I hope Rolo continues to do well and the vets are able to get to the bottom of what is actually going on.
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Thank you all! He has been refered to Bristol university they are looking into his case and are going to advise on our next move he has had symptoms for nearly 7 months!
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Hiya... Rolo has been on my mind after reading about another case. Is there any update? :hug: :hug: :hug:
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hi julie and everyone on here, I have been putting off writing on here as its very difficult for me to talk about, we decided to have rolo put to sleep after so much improvement and excitement rolo declined rapidly his kidneys failed he gained non regenerative anemia his weight dropped to under 2 kgs he went blind stopped eating all this in a matter of days he had a full vet check monday and by the following tuesday knew it was time. we had a long battle and he was worth it after he regained use of his legs he had 7 ,months as a normal (mostly) cat he enjoyed life and we are so glad we could give him extra time. if his death has brought any more light on fip then at least my vet friends and family will be more clued up I miss him everyday we all do and if I change it I would. he was truly beautiful x
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oh I am so sorry to hear about poor Rolo. He was a very special boy :hug: :hug: x
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I am so sorry to hear this.
Rolo was a special ragdoll.
Rest in peace little man.
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Am so so sorry to hear this. :'(
Rolo was very special. So are you for giving him all the care he needed and for giving him that final act of kindness :hug: :hug:
RIP Rolo - run free special special man :'(
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Oh Hun I am so so sorry to read this - big hugs for you and your family.
RIP sweet little Rolo - play hard at the Bridge until your Mummy comes to collect you xxx
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I am so very sorry to hear this... I had hoped for so much more for Rolo but sadly suspected this would be the end result. FIP is perhaps one of the most horrid conditions cats can develop and despite the very rare miracle recovery (or misdiagnosis?), almost every story ends exactly the same way as Rolo's story did. :'(
Please accept my condolences and if you need any further advice or even if you want to talk about Rolo's life, don't forget we are here. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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So sorry to hear this :hug: Like many others I'd hoped the vet was wrong and that Rolo would be able to beat it :(
RIP Rolo, safe and sound at the Bridge by now xx
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we are devastated. fip has to be one of the most horrible diseases thank you ask for all you help I just wish rolo was a lucky as gwinny poor little thing didn't deserve this x
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Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear this news :( Thinking of you :hug: :hug: RIP Rolo.
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I am so sorry to hear this sad news, FIP is just the worst illness but you gave Rolo the chance to make sure that it wasnt something else. :hug: :hug: :hug:
RIP Rolo you were treasured so much, play hard on the Bridge
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I am so sorry to hear this rip rolo
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I'm so sorry to hear about Rolo :( I lost my Tiger to FIP and it's such a wicked disease. Hopefully one day they will find a cure.
RIP Rolo. Sleep peacefully.
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I am so sorry to hear about Rolo.
My deepest sympathy , FIP is such a terrible disease
Loads of :hug: :hug: :hug: for you
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So sorry to hear this sad news. RIP Rolo. :hug:
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I am so sorry Nichole - Rolo was adorable and I loved his video on youtube
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I Only Wanted You
They say memories are golden
well maybe that is true.
but I never wanted memories,
I only wanted you.
A million times I needed you,
a million times I cried.
If love alone could have saved you
you never would have died.
In life I loved you dearly,
In death I love you still.
In my heart you hold a place
no one could ever fill.
If tears could build a stairway
and heartache make a lane,
I'd walk the path to heaven
and bring you back again.
Our family chain is broken,
and nothing seems the same.
But as we are called one by one,
the chain will link again.
xxx
:candle: :RIP:
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I am so very sorry to hear of your loss.
He lived a lifetime of love in his time with you.
Play well at the bridge Rolo x
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RIP Rolo
:hug: :hug: :hug: