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Cat General => General Cat Chat => Topic started by: Dawn (DiddyDawn) on March 27, 2007, 16:48:08 PM
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Here's a couple of pics of Minnie. She is a tiny feral babe weighing in at .85 kg.....she is so tiny bless her :Luv: :Luv: I was a bit concerned about her not growing as she's about 8 months old now but she seems to be healthy enough and there's nothing really apparently wrong with her. She does have a heart murmer but she's fine in herself.......she spends all her time trying to find a warm cat to snuggle up to :rofl:
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She's beautiful :Luv:
I love the way her ears are full-size :Luv:
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Awww bless. Must be a nightmare making sure you don't step or sit on her lol. Give her a cuddle from me. :Luv:
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Awww bless. Must be a nightmare making sure you don't step or sit on her lol. Give her a cuddle from me. :Luv:
You do have to be careful especially when she's lying on the bed, I always have to keep telling my hubby off when he turns over in case he squashes her :) I have found a couple of the other cats sitting on her on occasion.......I don't think they realise they are actually squashing a cat :Luv:
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Is she likely to get any bigger? It will be odd if she's the same size as a 6-7 week old kitten when she's fully grown lol.
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I can't see her growing much tbh as she's not grown up to now :Luv:
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:Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: ahhh a pocket size kitty! I want one.
She's gorgeous.
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ahhh a pocket size kitty! I want one.
And you'd never have to worry about struggling to lift 15kg of cat and carrier to the vets either! Must be so cute to basically have a permanent kitten. Can she be spayed when she's that small Dawn or is she not calling because she's so tiny.
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OH Dawn she is gorgeous :Luv:
She is sooo tiny bless her ;D
Give her lots of cuddles from me xxx
Gill another mission for the catnap team :evillaugh: :evillaugh:
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Can she be spayed when she's that small Dawn or is she not calling because she's so tiny.
I wouldn't like to chance having her spayed and the I don't think my vet would chance it either. She's never come into season and it's a possibility she won't but to be on the safe side, she had a contraceptive jab about a month ago.
Ellie :no: She's staying with her mummy cos she loves her soooo much and she doesn't take up any room :Luv: :Luv:
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I might be going to Wales for a little trip. I would also like a little souvenir to put in my pocket :Luv:
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Aww bless her Dawn - fingers crossed she doesnt' get any nasty side effects from not being spayed - I dont think the jabs prevent pyo or mammary cancer.
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Awwwww shes gorgeous :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv: :Luv:
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Aww bless her Dawn - fingers crossed she doesnt' get any nasty side effects from not being spayed - I dont think the jabs prevent pyo or mammary cancer.
I hope not Des but a kitty her size probably wouldn't survive the anaesthetic :'( I have also been warned she may have problems when she gets older......she seems healthy, bloods were normal but I'm still not convinced she's right, she may just be a runt or there may be something else that isn't showing up yet.
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I thought your vets had operated on a 5 week old for you last year? Our vets did a hernia op on a male at about 7 or 8 weeks earlier this year, and they can be neutered as early as 8 weeks, so it can be done.
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They operated on Keiko when she was about 8 weeks but she was bigger than Minnie. I wouldn't really want to chance having her done just in case........if she grows to a reasonable weight, then I would allow them to do her. I spoke to Sean a few weeks ago about it and even he didn't recommend it, she is just like a bag of bones, no meat on her whatsoever.
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Our vets did a hernia op on a male at about 7 or 8 weeks earlier this year, and they can be neutered as early as 8 weeks, so it can be done.
But 7-8 weeks old kittens weigh a lot more than 0.85kg don't they?
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Our vets did a hernia op on a male at about 7 or 8 weeks earlier this year, and they can be neutered as early as 8 weeks, so it can be done.
But 7-8 weeks old kittens weigh a lot more than 0.85kg don't they?
An 8 week old kitten should weigh around 2lb.
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I have no idea how much the one weighed last year Lottie - I didn't actually notice in Dawns orginal post about the weight, in America it is 1kg for early spay/neuter, so yes, she is too light - but Dawn's pics must be deceiving, she doesn't look that tiny to me!!
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The only cat I have ever known stay tiny was my auntie and uncles when I was younger. Transpired the poor thing was basically allergic to its own fur and had no chance of a healthy life as it was affecting things other than it's growth. :( Nature can be cruel sometimes.
She is absolutely gorgeous, Dawn. :)
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I might be going to Wales for a little trip. I would also like a little souvenir to put in my pocket :Luv:
Mark, any guests at my house have to have their pockets searched on the way out......by my dogs :rofl:
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I don't want a dog >:(
:I: :catluv: :M: :I: :N: :N: :I: :E:
PS - There is no "E" in Tan's alphabet so I had to make it up ;D
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I had a kitten a long time ago about the time of the Boar War ;D I think. it didn't grow much, however, by the time it was 10 months old the vet was concerned that if she got pregnant the implications of that would be far greater than the op, also he was concerned about the pyo and mammary tumors if she remained unspayed. In view of this I went ahead with the op and she was fine. Of course nowadays anaesthetics are much safer than they were then,. Also as mentioned in another post and I am sure you know that in some parts of the USA the neuter/spay at 8 weeks of age.
A worry I know.
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Right Mark you distract Dawn's dogs by trying tto kidnap one of the cats and I'll try to sneak a parrot out. Although I think trying to 'sneak' an Amazon out of anywhere is impossible as they don't understand the word quiet lol.
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Right Mark you distract Dawn's dogs by trying tto kidnap one of the cats and I'll try to sneak a parrot out. Although I think trying to 'sneak' an Amazon out of anywhere is impossible as they don't understand the word quiet lol.
I'm sure if Mark has plenty of meat on him, my dogs could easily be distracted :rofl: :rofl: As for sneaking a parrot out, I've already promised you 2........so when you're ready, they are waiting ;D
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First i seen this thread was just now, that kitten looks absolutely tiny for 8 months old (did you see the one of it next to a full grown cat des ?)
either that or the full grown cat is a freak giant cat LOL
Re the spaying etc i would also air on the side of caution...bearing in mind this cat has obviously something wrong with it aswell as the heart murmur..i suspect the heart murmur must have something do do with its minute size and possibly/probably some other condition going on as of yet unknown.
Dawn how is minnie in her self ?? does she eat/play etc normally ??
I have tried to google very stunted kittens etc but didnt get much coming up really other that heart problems/murmurs can cause it and there was a stunted kitten that tests proved non conclusive but when she was due for spay at 6 months the bloods now showed she had crf..she is still alive and on treatments for the crf. It will be interesting to see what happens with her in the next 24 mnths, is she for rehoming or are you keeping her dawn ??
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Dawn how is minnie in her self ?? does she eat/play etc normally ??
It will be interesting to see what happens with her in the next 24 mnths, is she for rehoming or are you keeping her dawn ??
Minnie is reasonably well in herself, she suffers a lot with a snotty nose but nothing mega. Sean said she looks really good, she has a nice shiny coat but skinny bless her. She eats well but has never acted like a kitten should, she has never played and spends all her time snuggled up to one of the others but she is very bright in herself. She suffers from the cold alot as she's got no meat on her, I think this is why she does her best to wean herself into the other cats affections......she uses them as hot water bottles :Luv: :Luv:
She isn't up for rehoming as the vet has said there may possibly be future complications, at least with me she will get the care that she needs and I can keep an eye on her.......plus she's my baby and she wriggled her way into my heart :Luv: :Luv:
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thats good she's going to stay with you for good. I shouldnt think moving her around will be very good for her at all.
My gut feeling is something will rear its ugly head in time but hopefully not.
she is lovely tho. ;D
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My gut feeling is something will rear its ugly head in time but hopefully not.
This is what I'm worried about, even though she seems fine at the moment, I do worry about her as I've seen it too many times with these small ferals :'( :'( The colony where she came from is a pretty healthy one but there was a lot of inbreeding which doesn't help matters......fingers cross she's just petite.
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This gorgeous little babe had to have another vet visit today. One of the little horrors must have either scratched her ear or bit it :censored: She had a nice big scab which seemed to be getting worse and not better. She's now had the scab removed, there was a nice amount of pus :sick: she's also had a jab and she's on a course of antibiotics.
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I thought Tilly was small at 8 months!
She's gorgeous Dawn, hope everythings ok with the little angel :Luv: :Luv:
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Don't you just love the smaller ladies - we have 3 - 1 domestic - Peanut now nearly 2 she is very small, was speyed at 10 months but on opening her up vets found she was full of cysts and they removed most of them but she neds checked annually as they will probably come back - knew there was a reason she wouldn't settle anywhere else did try and rehome her 3 times but she wouldn't use litter trays and came back and has never missed she has no fear and may well choke up the hills dogs as she likes to se them off the property all 5lbs of her but fortunately she has lots of big brothers who will back her up!
Storm is the size of a 6 month old kitten carries no excess weight and when put in a crush cage for vets visits is a 5lb Bengal tiger who will do damage to anyone within her range - she has got a couple at our new vets who seem to think she looks all sweetness and light - then vets have plasters and we have told you so thats why she is in a crush cage, in her own environment she a sweetheart who sleeps with us every night but handling is on her terms!
Finally another feral now aged nearly 2 Miss Lunar a ginger girl who looks so swet but again is a shredder but she is also only 5lbs and they are our little girls but size means nothing to them and they all have boys as "litter" mates or brothers who are well smacked down for no apparent reason!
So small is good!!!! :Luv:
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Minnie's started losing a little weight so I'm really worried about her :'( She is still fine in herself and is still eating and bright but obviously something isn't quite right. She's been back into the vets tonight, she hasn't got a temp or anything so Sean's given her an Anabolic Steroid to try and get her to eat more and hopefully put some weight on. I've just got to see how she gets on and play it by ear, he said she may need a further injection later on but he doesn't want to do anything else until we know how she reacts to this one.
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Fingers crossed for her Dawn.
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Hoping for the best for little Minnie :Luv:
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oh i hope she's ok, she looks like such a little sweetheart. fingers crossed she gets real hungry sonn xx
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:hug: She seemed really quiet last night after her jab, just seemed to sleep and sleep :-: I'm not sure if this is normal or not but then again, it was a big jab for such a little un. She seems to be brighter this morning and has already been munching at the food bowl :Luv:
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I hope shes ok and puts weight on
love
Tab
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Had to take Minnie back in the vets this evening, she's not right at all :'( :'( Sean isn't very optimistic about her outcome as she hasn't gained any weight and if anything, she seems lighter :'( She's had an antibiotic jab which seemed to knock her for six, it was the Synulux one but she certainly won't be having it again.......she cried and cried after it :censored: He said if there's no improvement in a couple of days, he wants her back in to re do her bloods.
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Got my fingers crossed for her and the team have all got the paws crossed for a positive outcome for your gorgeous little girl. We all think she's :Luv:
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oh no. well, sounds like you and sean are and will be doing everything for her, i will keep her in my thoughts and hops for the best xx
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Everything possible will be done for her but my hopes are fading now for her survival :'( I really don't know what's going on with her and neither does Sean. I will just have to hope that her next bloods show up something......her last one's were clear but the next lot are going to be sent off. I'm so worried about her now and I wasn't impressed with the way she responded to the jab........it was weird, it was like she'd gone into shock for a couple of minutes and she just stood there and then started crying :'( :'( :'(
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Dawn,
Sending positive thoughts for you and your poor little mite Minnie.
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Fingers crossed she defies you both Dawn.
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Dawn
All our thoughts are with you and Minnie, she has come this far so positive vibes from all here and whatever the outcome you have done miracles sometimes the impossibe requires more planning :Luv:
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:thanks: I think I'm going to have a word with Sean about checking her for a shunt. He did have a word with his mate who specialises in this sort of thing but because she doesn't show any psychological problems after eating, his mate has ruled it out. But as I've found with most of mine, when they are ill, nothing is how it should be........I think this is the only option, I've got some booked in on Thursday so I'll give Sean a ring tomorrow about getting Minnie in and see what he says. He may say no but if he does, she can just have the blood test on Thursday and see if that comes up with anything.
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So sorry to hear little minnie is ill Dawn! She is utterly gorgeous :) I'm sending loads of good vibes to her, and keeping everything crossed! :hug:
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I'm normally quite brave when it come's to Minnie........I try not to let her get to me too much but I did have a cry earlier, I'm hoping she will surprise me and perk up over the next few days. Sean seems to think things are taking a toll on her body now though so it doesn't sound too hopeful :(
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sorry to hear little minnie is unwell my fingers r crossed for u both Dawn :hug:
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I've got some very bad news concerning Minnie........I had to have her pts earlier on :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( She just wasn't right and the vet didn't think it was fair to try to pull her back from the brink. I'm not sure what was wrong with her but I don't think the jab helped matters last night......hubbie tends to think it was possibly delayed shock with her :'( :'( I had a horrible feeling yesterday that her time was nearly up but you just have to hope, sadly in this case it didn't work :'( :'(
Night, night gorgeous Minnie, you'll be forever remembered, sleep well babe, xxxxxxxx
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Dawn, I'm so sorry. She was such a lovely little thing.
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Oh Dawn I am so sorry *huge hugs* :'( I'm in tears now as her story really touched me. I'm thinking of you Dawn xxx
Sleep well Minnie and have fun at the bridge. You were loved so much by your mummy and those of us who knew your story through purrs. Gonzo will look after you up there, he'll be pleased to have a little parrot friendly friend to play with and take care of again. xxxxx
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Sorry Dawn,
Its awful that this didn't even start as a problem thread, more a "proud mum" one - Poor little baby - you did your best for her and thats what matters.
Sleep well little Minnie :Luv:
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I've always been concerned about Minnies health.......she did seem okay in herself for a long time but her size and everything else told different. I've cried bucketloads for her today.......I just feel I let her down and the funny thing was I said to Sean last night, sometimes I felt it was fairer to let her go but then I would have been gutted if there was a chance she would make it :'( She was really quiet last night after her jab and spent most of the time snuggled up to Jimmy but she reacted bad after the Anabolic steroid one she had last week so I assumed it was to be expected with her.........Minnie and jabs didn't suit each other but possibly because of what was going on with her internally or because of her size. When the vet checked her, she said she thought she was already on her way and that some brain damage was setting in, Minnie just lay there staring and didn't respond to stimulus :'( :'( :'( At least she's at peace now and I held her whilst she went........and she did go peacefully bless her.
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Poor baby. Its terrible when any cat has to be PTS but Minnie was just a tiny helpless baby - I'm choked :'(
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So very sorry for your loss
Sleep well little girlie
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Dawn I am so sorry to hear your news. She was such a little sweetie :'(
RIP little Minnie, go play with all the big boys and girls at the bridge!
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So very sorry about Minnie, R.I.P. sweetheart xxx
Stay strong Dawn, sending you mega big hugs xxx
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Minnie knows I loved her to bits.........how could I resist that cute little mush :Luv: :Luv: Jimmy has been looking for her this evening, he and Minnie were cuddle mates but I'm sure he'll be okay bless him.
Lainey, thanks for the phone call :hug: :hug:
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:hug:You are more than welcome :hug:
I think maybe if you come up for a wee visit and a rest, you should smuggle Jimmy here too. xxx
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I'm sure Minnie will be a big strong girl at the bridge and won't feel the cold any more
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oh.....dont know what to say. i'm so sorry she didnt make it... she will be fabulous at the bridge and loved as much up there as she was here....
so sorry she couldnt make it dawn.... :'(
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RIP Minnie, you will feel a so good playing with all our friends on the Bridge,
So very sorry Dawn
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Sorry to hear your sad news Dawn, big hugs to you :hug: You did your best for Minnie and she was lucky to have someone like you to care for her.
Minnie you've got lots of furbabes to meet you at the bridge! :Luv:
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:hug:You are more than welcome :hug:
I think maybe if you come up for a wee visit and a rest, you should smuggle Jimmy here too. xxx
Is that as well as Boston or instead of :evillaugh: Seriously, I really needed a chat tonight :hug: I'm sure Minnie is now playing on the bridge and all my babes will be looking after her.......I just feel so sad as she's come through so much and it was all in vain, when this happens, it makes you wonder if the decision should have been made sooner but then she wouldn't have had the chance. You get certain ones that steal your heart completely, Minnie was one of them........she was a little fighter right through to the end god love her and one that has broken my heart :'( :'(
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Dawn im so sorry for ur sad loss :hug: :hug:
rip minnie xxxxx
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Another little star at the bridge, I'm sure she will have all the boys in tow and have some nice cuddle pads
Dawn there's not much to say apart from she had a wonderful time with you and that you did your best as you always do.
Only ever borrowed never owned but always a pawprint in our hearts
God speed your little ginger ninja
Thoughts are with you Dawn but no internet at home :hug: :'(
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Im so sorry.
RIP Minnie play well at the bridge little one
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love
Tab
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RIP Minnie, she'll be safe and sound at the Bridge by now. Tiggy will take care of her until you are ready to collect her :hug:
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So sorry Dawn. She was a beautiful ginger princess..like another 1 we used to know. RIP sweetheart.
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Oh Dawn I am so sorry :hug: :hug:
RIP Minnie and play hard at the Bridge xx You are a beautiful wee girl and you have left a very special pawprint on your Mummy's heart xxxxxxx
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RIP Little Minnie, you were a beautiful girl. :(
Dawn did she have an illness?
RIP little babe. x
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Dawn I am so sorry hon, I know how much you adored Minnie and how much she must have loved you. She was one lucky girl to have you in her corner. Play hard tiny angel.
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Thank you for all your lovely comments :hug: Trace, she was another beautiful ginger princess and will always be remembered just as Molly will always be, I can still picture Molly's sweet face and I remember when I trapped Minnie, how much she reminded me of her :'( :'(
CC, we weren't exactly sure what was wrong with her, she has never grown but seemed reasonably healthy and blood tests didn't show anything untoward with her........her survival just wasn't meant to be :'( :'( I was contemplating having a pm done on her but I couldn't face it, I wanted her to remain untouched and at peace. It won't bring her back and I will just be beating myself up if it was something we missed.
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Too true Dawn.
Sleep well little girl. x
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I am so sorry.
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i am so sorry to hear this Dawn, I know how it feels to wonder if you did the right thing, or if you should have let them go sooner, but as long as she had a quality of life, you did the right thing to fight for/with her, to give her that chance and to know that nothing more could have been done, and to then be able to let her go when it was obvious that nothing more could have been done, that is what they all deserve. RIP little one.
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Des, thanks for the email and sorry I've not replied as yet :-[ I know in my heart it was time for her to go to the bridge, and I know she wouldn't have survived any treatment, it's hard to admit it to yourself when you love them so much but if I had kept her going, it would have been for my own selfish reasons ie that I didn't want to let go :'( :'( I know I've done this numerous times but sadly, it never gets any easier. The one's that always have the knack of wriggling into my heart are always the one's where there's something wrong even if it isn't obvious at the time. I managed to have a chat with Sean today about her........I did try and avoid him this morning as I didn't really want to talk about her but then he collared me about the feral which eventually led onto the subject of Minnie. He said it was the kindest thing for her and he knew that I knew her life was going to be short :'( She'll be one I won't ever forget and she'll always have a special place in my heart along with Dylan, Nobby, Oscar, Max, Little Bob, Keiko, Fluffball and the other little furries that have made a difference in my life.
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Not a prob Dawn - it is hard to admit at times, but the people who can admit it and put their feelings above our own are the strong ones, and animals are lucky to be with them, as they wont suffer. It is worse when they are one of hte ones that gets that bit deeper though.