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Title: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on December 27, 2009, 12:27:01 PM
She has been going downhill lately but last night she was in la la land. She was like it this morning as well. Luckily our vet is open on Sundays for 2 hours. I took her down and she is quite dehydrated and the vet thinks 24hrs on fluids will help. He was very busy due to being closed yesterday but we briefly discussed me doing subQs which he is fine about. He said I can also do her B12 and Laurabolin injections if I want to.

It is horrible leaving them at the vets but I know she will feel better tomorrow. The vet said she was at the stage where she wanted to drink but felt too nauseous. He said the kidneys are excreting fluid at the same rate so if nothing is going in, they dehydrate rapidly and dehydrations is what kills CRF cats.

I asked if her having a lot of turkey made it worse and he said it probably did  :( - he said it may have caused a spike in her phosphorus.

I asked about doing full bloods but he said it was a waste of time and money doing them on a dehydrated cat as the readings would be false - he said he wouldn't trust them. He said he knows her creatinine, urea etc will be high ATM ands doesn't need a bloods test to confirm it.

Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 27, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Fingers crossed the drip helps a lot Mark.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 27, 2009, 12:38:58 PM
Thanks Des - they are going to give me a demo tomorrow when there are more vets and less animals around.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on December 27, 2009, 13:03:59 PM
 :( Hope poor little Willow is feeling better soon  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 27, 2009, 13:17:22 PM
Sending lots of good wishes for Willow  :hug: :hug:

I hope they let you try a jab while you are there cos it looks so easy but cats skin is really tough  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on December 27, 2009, 13:30:38 PM
Sending lots of positive vibes for Willow.  The vet sounds very sensible so she's in good hands  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Christine (Blip) on December 27, 2009, 13:56:04 PM
Sending lots of positive vibes for Willow.  The vet sounds very sensible so she's in good hands  :hug:

That's what I was going to say  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Bazsmum on December 27, 2009, 15:06:09 PM
Hope the drip makes little Willow perk up soon, thinking of you all and sending positive vibes!  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: bunglycat on December 27, 2009, 15:34:24 PM
Hope the drip makes Willow feel better and she perks up - sounds like a good vet .
Lots of healing vibes sent and good luck with doing the injections  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Liz on December 27, 2009, 15:50:30 PM
Hope the drip does its job and Willow can come home tomorrow

Injections are ok but tough skin is a problem but very fine needles help on that one

 :hug: to you and Dennis for your little girl
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: bonnielass on December 27, 2009, 16:07:30 PM
Sending lots of positive healing vibes that Willow feels better soon and can come home :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: sheryl on December 27, 2009, 17:34:18 PM
Lots of love, huggles and healing vibes for Willow - wishing her a speedy recovery and big  :hug: for you and Dennis x
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 27, 2009, 17:40:15 PM
Thanks everyone. I'm trying not to think of her at the vet. I told Dennis that I'm prety sure they give them a light sedative so they don't get stressed?

Anyway, there is a flat upstairs to the practice and not sure if the duty vet stays up there or one of the VNs. What makes it more worrying is my friends cat, Kev, died while at the vets on during the night while having fluids. He was 17 though.

It is hard discussing it with OH though as he asks questions but when then says I am depressing so I really have to pick my words carefully. I have made it clear that although fluids etc are helping, they are no cure and he will have to get used to the idea of making a decision at some point.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on December 27, 2009, 18:24:22 PM
Sorry to hear that Mark  :hug: Hope the fluids do their job and she'll be home before you know it  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: clarenmax on December 27, 2009, 18:37:09 PM
Aw Mark, I hope Willow is feeling much better tomorrow after the fluids  :hug:

Will she be coming home again tomorrow? xx
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Kirst on December 27, 2009, 18:44:17 PM
Poor Willow - I am sure the fluids will help her feel better soon.xx :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 27, 2009, 18:46:21 PM

Will she be coming home again tomorrow? xx

I hope so  :(
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Stuart on December 27, 2009, 18:49:45 PM
I'm sure the Fluids will help Willow Mark
Sending tons of get well vibes Willows way
 :hug: :hug:
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Post by: Kittybabe (Ruth) on December 27, 2009, 19:04:35 PM
Wishing Willow a peaceful night. Hugs to you and Dennis  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Liz on December 27, 2009, 22:42:37 PM
Mark she is your little girl and its so hard leaving them overnight - take it you will be there with a flask before they are open!

Taling to OH's can be tough but you will face it together and with Willow's best interests at heat :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 28, 2009, 00:25:09 AM
take it you will be there with a flask before they are open!



I would but they are going to phone me around 9am to give me a time. The vet said 24hrs would be good so I don't want to push them to take her off any earlier. I am trying to be positive and think it is an opportunity to take some bits to the dump on the way  :)

It is so hard with OH because as soon as I say anything about likely events in the future I get told off for being depressing. OH won;t even come to the vet as it is "too upsetting"
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Liz on December 28, 2009, 10:07:19 AM
Mark I had that problem with OH in the summer when vet wanted to put Bailey to sleep I said no and spent 3 hours a day bottle feeding him - OH finally came to see him the night before he was discharged - Bailey is so his Daddies boy and OH couldn't face it with us already having lost Sailor and Archie
so know how that one feels :hug:

Hope the news is good for Miss Willow and her daddies :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 28, 2009, 10:25:27 AM
Hope she has had a comfortable night and can come home today
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 28, 2009, 10:45:30 AM
I am foot-tapping as the 9am call never came. I phoned just now and they are closed. I will jump in the car in 1/2 hour if I don't hear.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on December 28, 2009, 10:56:44 AM
Sorry I missed this yesterday .....

Hope Willow is OK Mark, I know what it is like to wait for a phonecall -

xxxx
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls on December 28, 2009, 11:00:13 AM
Hoping Willow is feeling much better when she comes home  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 28, 2009, 11:54:06 AM
Still no call  :tired:

I am going there after my cup of tea. The answerphone says to phone a mobile number if it is a geniune emergency only.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on December 28, 2009, 11:59:47 AM
Have kept checking to see if you've heard anything, hope that Willow can come home today  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 28, 2009, 12:31:49 PM
I phoned the emergency number and got the voicemail of the vet I saw yesterday. I got a call back 10 minutes later from a VN apologising for not calling earlier but they have had a horrendous morning. She said the vet had been in surgery for the last couple of hours. She asked if I would be able to pick Willow up. I said rather acidly that I had been ready since 9am but could I collect her now. She said she has a lot of animals to sort out so can I come at 6pm and she will give me a SubQ demo.

She said Willow is fine btw which is the main thing  :Luv2:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on December 28, 2009, 12:54:50 PM
She said Willow is fine btw which is the main thing  :Luv2:

 :) It is, that's great news  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Bazsmum on December 28, 2009, 12:56:15 PM
Glad to hear this, so she is perking up with the fluids?  :wow: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: clarenmax on December 28, 2009, 13:50:49 PM
She said Willow is fine btw which is the main thing  :Luv2:

 :) It is, that's great news  :hug:

Good news  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 28, 2009, 15:46:41 PM
Glad to hear this, so she is perking up with the fluids?  :wow: :hug:

I think that is the idea. So hopefully if I have a bag of fluids, I can nip it in the bud if I see her acting odd.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: bonnielass on December 28, 2009, 17:39:38 PM
Good news to hear that Willow is feeling better,  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 28, 2009, 20:17:23 PM
Well I went to pick up a lunatic cat. She was thrashing around the cage and screaming at me or anyone that tried to go near her. They said she was the same in the morning so the vet had to sedate her to get the drip off. The VN said it was probably a combination of the sedative and not being happy there. Anyway, she calmed down when we got back but we need to keep an eye as she is falling off things. Hopefully she will sleep it off now she has had a feed and a drink  :Luv2:

I now have a supply of SubQ kit.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 28, 2009, 23:48:53 PM
She is slowly returning to normality and has just eaten a 2nd meal. I didn't have the heart to scruff & pill her tonight but will do it tomorrow morning when she is more with it. I just feel like I need to give her a breather - maybe the wrong decision but one had to be made. She just seems so thin and frail - although she was certainly strong at the vets  :Crazy:

For some reason she has picked the dining room to chill in so OH is going to sleep on the sofa in there.

Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 29, 2009, 10:00:42 AM
Fingers crossed she is calmer today Mark and allows you to medicate her.
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Post by: Mark on December 29, 2009, 11:04:07 AM
I gave her a fortekor this morning. She is still acting odd - ie sitting in the shower or sink and hovering over water bowls. She did eat a pouch of sheba with lots of water added. We will have to see but I don't think it is looking good.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: tab on December 29, 2009, 11:12:13 AM
I hope the medications kick in and shes ok soon. Mogs was hovering over the water bowl too as though she hadnt the strength to lap but wanted to. I just worried because I thought she was going to drown.
 :hug: :hug: :hug:
love
Tab
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on December 29, 2009, 11:30:31 AM
Hope that she starts to pick up Mark  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 29, 2009, 12:38:28 PM
She shouldn't be doing it after being rehydrated? - I will speak to the vet again but it isn't fair on her or me to be backwards and forwards to the vet every couple of days.  :(

I don't want to keep her going and stuffing her full of meds - its no life for her.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Liz on December 29, 2009, 13:49:25 PM
MArk Bailey did this after the fluids its almost as if they have dry mouths despite all that nice liquid

As usual  :hug: to you Dennis and Miss Willow from all here at the clan
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 29, 2009, 13:52:24 PM
I phoned the vet again and told them she was hovering over bowls smacking her chops etc. The VN said that it can take their bodies a while to adjust after coming off fluids so she may need a kick start. I tried doing subQs but she was having none of it - she has about 6 holes and took about 2ml  :( - I took the Catit water dome thing out of storage and she has been drinking from it a bit. Also I gave her another pouch of sheba with lots of water added and she drank the liquid. The VN said whatever happens if she isn't drinking properly later on to bring her in.  :crossed:


The VN said their bodies need to adjust to hold more fluid in after so much being flushed through them. Willow still has the Uraemia smell.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on December 29, 2009, 16:15:35 PM
I would think, as the vet says that Willow will settle down, sending her lots of get well wishes   :hug: 
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: tab on December 29, 2009, 17:21:02 PM
I hope shes ok soon
 :hug: :hug:
love
Tab
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 29, 2009, 18:45:46 PM
Fingers crossed she settles down soon - I suppose even though she has had loads of fluids, she hasnt been taking them orally, so might still need to physically drink.
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Post by: Tiggy's Mum on December 29, 2009, 18:51:28 PM
Sending positive vibes her way  :hug:
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Post by: Ann Clarke (Tabby cat) on December 29, 2009, 19:02:17 PM
Keeping everything crossed and sending positive vibes for Willow  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: clarenmax on December 29, 2009, 19:41:43 PM
If she's lip-smacking that could be a sign of nausea, so at least if she's eating with lots of water in her food, then its a start  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 29, 2009, 19:51:34 PM
I syringed another 2ml of water down her throat (I do it slowly to make sure she swallows) - I would have done more but OH couldn't bear to watch   :-: - so  a hand with SubQs is out of the question.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Bazsmum on December 29, 2009, 22:18:07 PM
Good luck with this Mark...... Pity Dennis could not just hold her but look away!  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: ChrisB on December 29, 2009, 23:04:02 PM
Mark, do hope Willow is feeling a little better tomorrow  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 29, 2009, 23:57:54 PM
Although she has been getting a fair bit of fluid today as well as eating OK, she is still doolally  :( - she is desperate to get outsdie but just heads for the fence at the back and sits under one of the vets bins. We can't risk her going AWOL so have locked the flap. She keeps hammering at it for hours on end - it is driving us crazy. She won't settle on the sofa. I keep taking her up to bed but she ends up lying in the bathroom sink. I think we will be back at the vet tomorrow.
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Post by: Lesley Frankie on December 30, 2009, 08:11:46 AM
I syringed another 2ml of water down her throat (I do it slowly to make sure she swallows) - I would have done more but OH couldn't bear to watch   :-: - so  a hand with SubQs is out of the question.

Sorry to be a bit brutal but, it seems to me that your partner needs to understand that Willow's medical needs are far greater than their sensibilities. In addition, you seem to be shouldering more than your share of responsibilities . I dread to think what would happen to Willow if you weren't around!
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 30, 2009, 08:47:56 AM
I really do agree but also understand that some of us are more practical about these things. I got up at 6am (she was meowing and wandering round) and made her up some sheba with water and Renalzin in which she ate/drank 1/2 of and then went to one of the water dishes and had a REALLY long drink. She is ignoring the 2 different fountains in the bedroom I think I will be going to the vet this morning as she still seems out of it. Now she is a bit more hydrated, they can probably run full bloods to get a better idea of what is going on.
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Post by: Kittybabe (Ruth) on December 30, 2009, 09:54:57 AM
I really do agree but also understand that some of us are more practical about these things.

And that's why the union works :hug:

Hope she perks up today, Mark.
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Post by: tab on December 30, 2009, 12:25:23 PM
I hope now shes eating and drinking well that she gets better soon
 :hug: :hug:
love
Tab
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Christine (Blip) on December 30, 2009, 12:28:00 PM
Any update, Mark?
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 30, 2009, 12:41:20 PM
There is a definite improvement but she is still sitting hunched by the water globe. It is so hard to decide if it is worth putting her through the stress is she is getting better. This probably sounds selfish but I really need to get on with my revision and everything has gone on hold lately. Today is pretty much a washout as I ended up with less than 4 hours sleep. I wish she could speak to me  :(
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Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 30, 2009, 13:16:10 PM
I think this is such a hard time Mark and like you I so wish they could speak.

Sometimes we have to try and listen to the vets advice and then balance it with how we know the cat and then just bloomin guess, such a worry  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 30, 2009, 14:29:28 PM
We decided better safe than sorry. Her mouth has white stuff around it like dried milk only she hasn't had milk. Although she is hovering over water bowls etc, she is happy to eat and devoured a piece of ham fat. She is wandering around the house doing a funny meow. She is back in the bathroom sink - very odd but she seems to be making a point of sitting in the coolest places, like near the bedroom window in the draught rather than in he warm bed by the radiator. She is definitely more coherent today but not enough of an improvement. OH said to ask if they can do subQs while I am there but doesn't want her kept in overnight again as he thinks it upset her too much. I said that if they do them with instructions for me to do them again later, I will need help as I only have 2 hands which aren't enough for an uncooperative cat.
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Post by: Janeyk on December 30, 2009, 16:12:08 PM
Hope Willow continues to improve gradually  :hug:
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Post by: alisonandarchie on December 30, 2009, 17:12:19 PM
Really feel  for you :hug:

Hope Willow is on the up now
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Post by: Kay and Penny on December 30, 2009, 17:39:39 PM
I had a book a while ago about older cats, and their problems, and remember reading that cats with CRF will choose to sit in strange places, such as in dirty  puddles out in the cold

it sounds as if Willow is doing something equivalent

 :hug: :hug: for all of you, and hoping you can manage as well as you would wish to
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 30, 2009, 19:44:01 PM
Fingers crossed there has been some improvement.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 30, 2009, 19:44:29 PM
The vet said we are reaching the end of the road. He said the best thing we can do is to try to get as much water into her as possible. I told him that I had been syringe feeding her water and he thought that was good. He has given me a larger syringe. He mentioned things I am doing already such as adding water to food etc. He said the dribbling is nausea. I asked if he could give her something for nausea as she may drink if she didn't feel sick. He said there wasn't a licenced drug in the UK but he could give her an unlicenced anti-emetic if I asked for it. I can't remember the name but I thought it said convenia in the book although I thought that was an antibiotic. He looked at her mouth and sais there was a spot of blood which was ulceration. He also showed me that you can clearly see the blood vessels in her eyes which is another sign of toxin build up. I asked if it was worth giving her more B12 and Laurabolin but he said it was too soon. He said if she doesn't improve or gets worse over the next week, they can try one more 24hr on fluids but he doesn't think it would help  :( He said we know the road we are travelling on and we know the destination - it is just a case of how long. We agreed that quality is what matters. I have told OH - there was no easy way.

On the bright side, within a couple of minutes of getting back, she ran up to the bathroom and started licking the tap. I turned it on and she drank solidly for 3 or 4 mintes then had a pee - amazingly, in the tray rather than on the new John Lewis rug.

Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 30, 2009, 19:58:04 PM
I am sorry to hear things aren't looking good Mark. I have had anti-nausea drugs for cats though, just can't remember them off hand, and got a cat on my knee, let me do a search, as am sure I had some for Rosie and Tino.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on December 30, 2009, 20:05:45 PM
 :hug: so sorry to hear this Mark  :hug:

On the bright side, within a couple of minutes of getting back, she ran up to the bathroom and started licking the tap. I turned it on and she drank solidly for 3 or 4 mintes then had a pee - amazingly, in the tray rather than on the new John Lewis rug.


bless her   :Luv:   :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on December 30, 2009, 20:08:01 PM
 I know you'll do what's best for her Mark, whatever that may be.  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: ChrisB on December 30, 2009, 21:48:50 PM
Sorry that the news isn't good Mark - my thoughts are with you and dear Wlllow  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Liz on December 30, 2009, 21:57:01 PM
 :hug: for you and dennis - and of course for Willow

You always go the extra mile so am sure that you will do whats best for Willow and also for you and Dennis - thae hardest part of loving themis knowing whats best :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: pappilon on December 30, 2009, 22:41:32 PM
Oh Mark, i really feel for you, OH and Willow :hug: :hug:
I know what you are going through, it just brings back every thing with Phoebe :(
Desley is right, there is an injection for anti-nausea. My vet gave it to both Phoebe and Boy . I can call them in the morning and ask if you like. :hug:
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Post by: Rosella moggy on December 30, 2009, 23:08:30 PM
Sending best of possible good vibes you all esp Willow
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on December 30, 2009, 23:28:55 PM
Sorry to read this update Mark

Sending love to You, Dennis and Willow x
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: bunglycat on December 30, 2009, 23:41:22 PM
Sorry to read this news about Willow - i know how you are feeling !
 :hug: :hug: :hug:  to you ,Dennis and Willow
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 31, 2009, 00:13:44 AM
Thanks everyone. I didn't realise just how draining it is. You are fighting for normality but frightened to leave them alone for a minute. Now she is drinking, she isn't eating - there are so many dishes around with things to tempt her but no luck. The vet said we made need to make a decision in a matter of days depending on what happens. She has been drinking lots of water - so much so that amazingly, her the skin on her neck has gone supple again. It is so confusing.


I now have to keep cleaning her chin as well as her eyes.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Bazsmum on December 31, 2009, 04:07:03 AM
Big hugs to you all Mark, I do hope that all settles into place and you are all feeling much happier very soon!  :Luv2: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: tab on December 31, 2009, 08:20:52 AM
I hope shes improving today
 :hug: :hug: :hug:
love
tab
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on December 31, 2009, 08:34:07 AM
I'm sorry the outlook isn't more positive  :hug:  I hope she shows a bit more improvement today with drinking etc.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on December 31, 2009, 08:58:51 AM
i hope that the extra fluids make her want to eat, as dehydration does affect their appetite.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: clarenmax on December 31, 2009, 08:58:59 AM
Oh Mark, I do hope her appetite picks up again, its so hard when our babies are poorly  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Dawn F on December 31, 2009, 11:36:22 AM
Mark I'm sorry I missed all of this - hope you are doing ok  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on December 31, 2009, 11:42:33 AM
drinking is good and hope its a precursor to eating  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 31, 2009, 13:25:49 PM
The vet gave her subQs and B12 + Laurabolin - it was too early to do it again really but he said we really are in last chance saloon. Her mouth is sore but he can't risk giving her any pain meds. He said we need to think long and hard and bear in mind that there is emergency vet cover tomorrow if we need it. He said IV fluids was gold standard but I phoned OH who said she was so upset the last time . He also gave me lectade but said chances are she won't drink it and I mustn't force it on her but it was just another straw to clutch at. I also bought a kitten bottle as Willow had been sucking the syringe. The vet didn't have any a/d or liquivite. OH went to the vet next door who had a/d but not liquivite. They said to syringe feed if she won't eat herself. Anyway, need to get to sainsburys so excuse typos etc. there is a chance she will eat sheba game flavour if anything.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Bazsmum on December 31, 2009, 17:25:58 PM
Finger's crossed she gets some Sheba down!  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mojo on December 31, 2009, 17:27:27 PM
sending you some supportive hugs Mark xx
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on December 31, 2009, 18:02:15 PM
Do hope that Willow has enjoyed some Sheba  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: sheryl on December 31, 2009, 19:01:13 PM
Thinking of you and Dennis and hoping that Willow starts to improve xxx
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: clarenmax on December 31, 2009, 19:07:25 PM
Hope the Sheba has tempted her to eat something tonight  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Millys Mum on December 31, 2009, 19:29:56 PM
Hoping the sheba game was liked or some a/d, mixing warm water in it can make it more appealing (and stinky  :sick: ) easier to syringe also if a little water added
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 31, 2009, 20:09:55 PM
I just tried the syringed A/D & Water resulting in willow moving as I squirted and the roman blind now looking like H block  :tired:

The trouble is, Her mouth is really gummy and full of horrible stuff. I went to get a syringe of water but she has hidden. There is plenty of fight left in her but if she doesn't improve by tomorrow...........

I'm sure she wanted to eat the sheba as she kept snuffling over it but didn't eat any.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Gillian Harvey on December 31, 2009, 20:53:38 PM
Sorry she's not doing so well Mark  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: JackSpratt on December 31, 2009, 21:07:57 PM
I hope Willow picks up soon, Mark. :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: ChrisB on December 31, 2009, 21:44:28 PM
Thinking of you Mark  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Ann Clarke (Tabby cat) on December 31, 2009, 21:47:45 PM
Thinking of you and Willow Mark  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Yvonne on December 31, 2009, 22:11:46 PM
Just caught up with this - sending positive vibes to you and Willow on this beautiful New Years eve
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: bonnielass on December 31, 2009, 22:18:19 PM
Im sorry to hear Willow isnt do to well Mark and my thoughts are with you both :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on December 31, 2009, 22:21:53 PM
Mark, you know my number if you want to talk.  :hug: Thinking of you, mate.  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: pappilon on December 31, 2009, 23:10:10 PM
Thinking of you and Willow. :hug:
Mark, i think i mentioned this in a different post but when Phoebe stoped eating my vet priscribed Periactin tabs, its stimulate appetite.
It did help her to get her appetite back but my problem was geting her to take the tab so she could eat and take her other meds :( Sorry dont know if i make sense.
I dont know if you want to ask your vet about Periactin and see if it helps Willow. :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 31, 2009, 23:48:15 PM
Thanks Pav, The Laurabolin was supposed to stimulate her appetite. The thing is, I think she is hungry but also nauseous and she also has a sore mouth. I have also been looking at Tanya's CRF site and they don't recommend Saline fluids that my vet gave me. I will ask but today he made it more than clear that he has given all he can and there are no alternatives.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on December 31, 2009, 23:52:26 PM
Mark, you know my number if you want to talk.  :hug: Thinking of you, mate.  :hug: :hug:

Thanks Julie - I may well take you up on that - I am trying to be the tough one while OH is breaking down.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on December 31, 2009, 23:57:03 PM
Mark, you know my number if you want to talk.  :hug: Thinking of you, mate.  :hug: :hug:

Thanks Julie - I may well take you up on that - I am trying to be the tough one while OH is breaking down.

You don't need to be tough at times like this. Crying is allowed! Just hold it together enough to apply the meds and make sure Willow is comfy.  :hug:

Ring the landline as the mobile signal cuts out when I am in the house. We're in all day tomorrow apart from a brief time mid morning. :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on January 01, 2010, 00:46:11 AM
She has thrown up some foam and seems to be trying to find cool places (Hyper-T?). I'm in 2 minds about giving her more water or some watery A/D before bed. It's so confusing knowing when/where to draw the line. She is still quite fesity - I was syringing water into her mouth earlier while holding her in the air by her scruff- she was pushing me away but not in an agressive or fearful way but in a "no dad" way - I really wanted to cry then but just had to get on with it  :( - I know it is a case of "cruel to be kind" - OH said he is sure she knows I love her and wouldn't hurt her.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: **TINA** on January 01, 2010, 00:55:48 AM
Just noticed this & reading it i feel your pain  :'( :'( :'(

Willow will know she is loved so so so much  :hug: :hug:


For willow x x x x x

Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on January 01, 2010, 01:20:17 AM
Mark if she were my cat I'd ask myself if she is going to recover from this event. If I knew she wasn't then I wouldn't do anything to distress her further. I'd just try to make her as comfy as possible and watch like a hawk for any signs of suffering. But that's only something you can judge with access to vet's opinions and the evidence in front of your eyes. So the question you need to ask yourselves is do you think she will recover? If she will then forcing water in is justified, if she isn't... well, just because the technology and knowledge exists to apply intensive care to a pet, does it always mean it's the right thing to do?  :hug: :hug:

I don't feel a mouthful of water is going to make too much difference either way in these circumstances.  :hug:

I'm off to bed now but around tomorrow.  ;) :hug:

Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on January 01, 2010, 06:59:01 AM
Mark if she were my cat I'd ask myself if she is going to recover from this event. If I knew she wasn't then I wouldn't do anything to distress her further. I'd just try to make her as comfy as possible and watch like a hawk for any signs of suffering. But that's only something you can judge with access to vet's opinions and the evidence in front of your eyes. So the question you need to ask yourselves is do you think she will recover? If she will then forcing water in is justified, if she isn't... well, just because the technology and knowledge exists to apply intensive care to a pet, does it always mean it's the right thing to do?  :hug: :hug:

I don't feel a mouthful of water is going to make too much difference either way in these circumstances.  :hug:


Totally agree Julie, I wouldn't stress her if it wasn't going to help much.  Thinking of you Mark and give Willow a hug from me please  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: tab on January 01, 2010, 10:06:14 AM
Mark Im so sorry your going through so much like I did with Mogs yesterday. Making the decision of when enough is enough is dreadful and youre all in my thoughts today.
I hope things have improved over night and Willow is doing well
 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
love
Tab
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: clarenmax on January 01, 2010, 10:11:00 AM
Mark, topping up with more  :hug: :hug: this morning, I honestly feel for you so much, as I went through the same with Max in the Summer  :(

Don't feel that you have to be the strong one though, you are worried too, so I hope that Dennis gives some much deserved support back to you  :hug:

With Willow, as others have said, is there a chance she will recover fully from this episode?  No matter what the vet has said, you will know. You'll know if she still has fighting spirit and a will to get stronger again, and equally you will know if she is tired.

I didn't think I'd ever know, but you will  :hug: :hug:

I am praying that she comes round though, she's such a gorgeous girl  :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Christine (Blip) on January 01, 2010, 10:13:00 AM
Just to add my support and wait to hear from you, Mark  :hug:.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on January 01, 2010, 10:15:30 AM
I've just had a chat with Mark on the phone. Willow is going back into the vets later this morning and being placed back on a drip to flush further toxins out. Hopefully they can get some painkillers into her now as well.  :wish:

Mark also said he can't really face posting again until there's some news one way or another. I offered to pass anything on he wants posted on Purrs.  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on January 01, 2010, 10:36:35 AM
Thinking about you all Mark and Willow

Keeping the vibes up

xx
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Christine (Blip) on January 01, 2010, 10:41:19 AM
Mark also said he can't really face posting again until there's some news one way or another. I offered to pass anything on he wants posted on Purrs.  :hug: :hug:

 :thanks: Julie.  I sent Mark a PM yesterday evening but please do let him know I'm thinking of him and Willow.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: clarenmax on January 01, 2010, 10:51:49 AM
 :thanks: Julie, I am praying that the further drip makes her turn a corner  :wish:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Kirst on January 01, 2010, 11:11:39 AM
Oh poor Mark , and Willow - I remember going through this with Oscar  and its so damn hard.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on January 01, 2010, 11:32:24 AM
Poor little Willow, I will be really hoping she feels much better after this I do have a soft spot for her and thoughts with Mark too I can imagine what you're going through right now  :hug:  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Canterbury_cats (Sharon) on January 01, 2010, 12:33:36 PM
Having spoken to Mark just a while ago. Willow is at the vets on a drip.. They were hoping to do something about her mouth being so sore but they cannot get anything down her.. Maybe a few days of fluids will help.. Let us hope so..
Poor Mark is very upset but trying to remain positive.. Want know if there is any improvement until tomorrow really
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 01, 2010, 12:35:32 PM
This is so hard but agree with what Julie has said, thinking about you and Willow  :hug:  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: JackSpratt on January 01, 2010, 13:06:45 PM
This is so hard but agree with what Julie has said, thinking about you and Willow  :hug:  :hug:

I agree too, but it's such a difficult thing to accept. Hoping Willow picks up and that Mark and Dennis are coping. :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Gillian Harvey on January 01, 2010, 13:33:41 PM
Thinking of you too Mark  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on January 01, 2010, 14:40:02 PM
Everything is crossed that the fluids work, especially as Willow hasn't lost her fighting spirit

Sending much love to You Mark and Dennis xx
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on January 01, 2010, 14:51:12 PM
Like so many others I know what you're going through Mark.   :hug:  :hug:  :hug: to you, Willow and Denis
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Mark on January 01, 2010, 16:17:29 PM
Thanks everyone. Sorry I didn't answer your PM Christine (and a couple of others) I think it may be a case of trying to hide from it. I haven't even phoned my mum yet as I don't want to go through it all again. Basically, the duty vet today was based at Deal but was going to drive to the Herne Bay branch and meet me there. When I got there, she had been stuck due to the snow, so the VN said she would phone me when she arrived. I told the vet that on Tanya's CRF site, it said that most vets give 24hrs IV but it really isn't enough. 2/3 days is better. I had asked if she was willing to do this subject to Willow not suffering. When she phoned, she said that Willow's mouth is imflamed and sore looking and she was unable to give her something to line her stomach. She has put Willow on the maximum safe rate of drip for her size. They will see how she is in the morning. If there is an improvement, they will continue the drip, otherwise PTS  :( - we decided that we won't grieve until we know for sure and tried to look at today as respite. We went to Canterbury for lunch and a look around the shops. Neither of us could really eat and couldn't be bothered to walk around the shops so we came home again.

Anyway, OH says we have to accept that she is going tomorrow and if she doesn't it is a bonus. We have to go on vet's advice. I have told them that I want to be with Willow if she can't be helped.

Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Millys Mum on January 01, 2010, 16:31:13 PM
Sorry Mark  :( she could still rally by the morning  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on January 01, 2010, 16:32:15 PM
 :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: LesleyW on January 01, 2010, 16:35:28 PM
Just caught up with this thread today.

So sorry to hear about Willow Mark.  I am thinking of you both and OH.  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Christine (Blip) on January 01, 2010, 16:44:40 PM
Sorry I didn't answer your PM Christine [...] I have told them that I want to be with Willow if she can't be helped.

There is no need to answer it.  Yes, if that is the outcome, you must  :hug:

Take care, mate  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Liz on January 01, 2010, 16:46:31 PM
Mark we have everything crossed here at the Clan for Willow and of course for you and Dennis and your fur kids :hug:

Vets advice is a sound route but hoping Miss Willow decides that she knows differently :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Bazsmum on January 01, 2010, 16:50:47 PM
Thinking of you all and sending out healing vibes.....Really hope frenchy perks up!  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on January 01, 2010, 17:05:00 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: to you Mark and Willow. Hopefully Willow will pick up.

 :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on January 01, 2010, 17:17:52 PM
 :'( :'( :'(

 :hug: :hug: To You and Dennis xx
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: JackSpratt on January 01, 2010, 17:19:06 PM
Mark, I think we all try and hide from it; I definitely do. But when you know there's no other option you do what you have to because of your love for the feline (or other animal) in question. I always say it's most definitely the hardest part of caring for an animal. I'm hoping that Willow picks up, but if she doesn't that you're strong and tell her she's loved until she lets go.  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on January 01, 2010, 17:35:47 PM
Vets advice is a sound route but hoping Miss Willow decides that she knows differently :hug:

I'm hoping that too, been thinking of you all today  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: bunglycat on January 01, 2010, 18:03:59 PM
Sorry Willow is so poorly -hope she picks up with the fluids .
Thinking of you all :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Kirst on January 01, 2010, 19:36:18 PM
Really hoping that the fluids will do the trick - you and Dennis will be in my thoughts tonight. :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on January 01, 2010, 19:45:35 PM
Thinking of you all  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 01, 2010, 19:59:01 PM
So sorry to hear what you are all going through.

Have been thinking of you all day today and have everything crossed that she improves overnight  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Sootyca on January 01, 2010, 20:28:05 PM
Thinking of you and hopefully she will rally.   :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: ChrisB on January 01, 2010, 21:47:20 PM
Have been thinking of you all - Willow knows how much you both love her and I pray that she improves  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: bonnielass on January 01, 2010, 23:31:28 PM
Thinking of you both and hoping the drip helps poor Willow.  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 01, 2010, 23:42:03 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Stuart on January 02, 2010, 01:05:27 AM
Oh No  :(
Keeping everything crossed for Willow
my thoughts are with you all
 :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: AliCat on January 02, 2010, 01:53:50 AM
 :hug: :hug:


Fingers crossed hun.
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Bazsmum on January 02, 2010, 02:15:54 AM
Thinking of you all!  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: bonnielass on January 02, 2010, 11:06:27 AM
Fingers crossed that Willow is feeling a bit better today  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on January 02, 2010, 11:09:19 AM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: and good vibes sent for Willow  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow is at the vets on fluids again.
Post by: Janeyk on January 02, 2010, 12:55:24 PM
I am so hoping that Willow has improved :hug:  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone 10.05am 2/1/10
Post by: Mark on January 02, 2010, 13:23:41 PM
The vet phoned at 9am and said things were not looking good and we should come down. He said we could discuss it but she was beyond help. Luckily OH found the courage to come with me. The vet told us to go through to the cat room and he would join us in a few minutes. As soon as we saw her, we both couldn't wait for the vet to come and relieve her misery  :( - she was barely recognisable and her tongue was sticking out a bit and was almost white. Her eyes were quite dilated and there was no recognition at all. she was still except for a few feint sneezes. The vet laid her on the table and covered her back end and let us fuss her and kiss her while he injected the fliud into her IV tube. She was gone in a few seconds. It was very peaceful. Jeremy left us with her and said we could stay as long as we liked.

We have decided to have a bush planted and have her ashes buried in a memorial garden with a plaque or something similar. We know nothing can bring her back but we want to do something lasting.

We will always love you baby Willow  :'(
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on January 02, 2010, 13:29:04 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Kay and Penny on January 02, 2010, 13:32:46 PM
there are no words Mark - so glad you were both there for Willow at the end though - and that the decision to let her go was not a hard one  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on January 02, 2010, 13:34:37 PM
So sorry to hear this Mark  :hug:

You really did give her the greatest gift, she will be at the Bridge by now waiting for you both until you are ready to collect her  :hug:

RIP little Willow xx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Christine (Blip) on January 02, 2010, 13:42:01 PM
I am so sorry, Mark.

My thoughts are with you both.

xChristine
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: hOrZa on January 02, 2010, 13:43:57 PM
I'm very sorry Mark


:RIP: little one :'(
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Michelle (furbabystar) on January 02, 2010, 13:51:22 PM
Oh Mark  :'(

I'm so so sorry  :hug:

RIP Willow - Have fun at the Bridge Sweetheart until your Daddies come for You xxxx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 02, 2010, 13:53:47 PM
I am going to sort through the pictures to find some good ones. She was difficult to photograph and her eyes were usually runny - although that was just Willow. It's hard to look at them but they are the Willow we remember, not the poor wretch that was in the vets today  :(

(http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn224/MarkB_014/001-2.jpg)
Willow helping with homework.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: clarenmax on January 02, 2010, 13:55:59 PM
Mark, I'm so sorry, sending lots of  :hug: to you and to Dennis  :hug:

Nothing will take the pain you are feeling away, but know that you did the right thing for her, and she'll be safe and sound on the Bridge by now with our other babes, I've asked Max to look out for her, they can be black beauties together  :Luv2:

Sending you lots of love xxxxx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on January 02, 2010, 14:09:06 PM
I am so sorry to hear this Mark, I had truly hoped she could have rallied round and had more quality time with you. I am glad Dennis could be with you though, and that he was able to see it was the best thing for her. RIP little one.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Susanne (urbantigers) on January 02, 2010, 14:11:58 PM
Sorry to hear this, Mark  :hug: :hug: 
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Schmew on January 02, 2010, 14:13:40 PM
So sorry Mark.  :hug: You've done the kindest but hardest thing. RIP Willow
x
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on January 02, 2010, 14:14:50 PM
I am so sorry Mark but glad that both you and Dennis were with Willow at the end.  You know you've done the right thing but it doesn't ease the pain of loss  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:.

she'll be safe and sound on the Bridge by now with our other babes, I've asked Max to look out for her, they can be black beauties together  :Luv2:

...and Korky is another black beauty who will look out for her.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Liz on January 02, 2010, 14:17:27 PM
Our deepest thoughts of sympathy are with you and Dennis and your furry family on the loss of Willow :hug:

Am so glad her Daddies could be with her at the end and that it was peaceful

Mark she will be remembered here at Purrs and she will always be with you and Dennis in spirit

Only ever borrowed never owned but always a Pawprint in your hearts :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: LesleyW on January 02, 2010, 14:19:11 PM
I'm so sorry Mark, there are no words at this time but sending you and Dennis lots of  :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Yvonne on January 02, 2010, 14:24:47 PM
So very sorry to hear this

_____________________________________________

As much as I loved the life we had and all the times we played,
I was so very tired and knew my time on earth would fade.
I saw a wondrous image then of a place that's trouble-free
Where all of us can meet again to spend eternity.

I saw the most beautiful Rainbow, and on the other side
Were meadows rich and beautiful -- lush and green and wide!
And running through the meadows as far as the eye could see
Were animals of every sort as healthy as could be!
My own tired, failing body was fresh and healed and new
And I wanted to go run with them, but I had something left to do.

I needed to reach out to you, to tell you I'm alright
That this place is truly wonderful, then a bright Glow pierced the night.
'Twas the Glow of many Candles shining bright and strong and bold
And I knew then that it held your love in its brilliant shades of gold.

For although we may not be together in the way we used to be,
We are still connected by a cord no eye can see.
So whenever you need to find me, we're never far apart
If you look beyond the Rainbow and listen with your heart.



RIP Willow


 :RIP: :candle:      :RIP: :candle:      :RIP: :candle:     
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: bonnielass on January 02, 2010, 14:38:28 PM
Mark im so sorry you lost her, she was beautiful :Luv:

I know it must hurt but you did the kindest thing for her and im sure she knew how much you both loved her :hug: :hug:

rip Willow till its time to meet again x
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Den on January 02, 2010, 15:01:03 PM
Oh Mark and Dennis  :hug: :hug:

I'm so very sorry for you both.

RIP little Willow.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Canterbury_cats (Sharon) on January 02, 2010, 15:06:16 PM
Hi Mark... now we have had a chat on the phone.... and i havejust seen your post..
There is a lovely rose called "Remember Me" that is pink, yellow in colour and i have always found comfort in planting such a plant,when i have lost a puss cat.. Also i always think a "Pussy Willow" trees are very symbolic of losing a cat.

Anyhow..whatever you decide but you tried your best.. no cat could ask for more!
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: bunglycat on January 02, 2010, 15:30:50 PM
I am so sorry to hear about Willow Mark - its so hard even though you know it was the right decision it still hurts like hell.  You did everything you could and more.
My thoughts are with you and Dennis at this time.
 :RIP:  Willow- one day you will see your Daddies again and be together forever.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: puggy1975 Zoe on January 02, 2010, 15:38:25 PM
Rip willow. So sorry you are gone.

Play hard with all the other fur balls at the bridge

So sorry Mark, you did everything you could for her and she will never forger that..

play hard princess

xxx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Stuart on January 02, 2010, 15:42:13 PM
Mark & Dennis  :hug: :hug: :hug:
I'm so Sorry that Willow could fight it no more, You did the right thing
and I'm Glad that Both of you were there to comfort Her in Her final Moment's  :hug:
can't think of any more to say :'( My thoughts are with You Both  :hug:

RIP Beautiful Willow, safe and well at the Bridge Now

 :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: nicter on January 02, 2010, 15:55:48 PM
So sorry Mark and Dennis  :hug: to you both xx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on January 02, 2010, 15:59:41 PM
Oh Mark & Dennis I'm so sorry to hear that Willow has passed to the bridge ... please accept my sincere condolences  :hug:

RIP Willow sweetheart ... play hard at the bridge til it's time to meet your Daddies again xxxxx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Janeyk on January 02, 2010, 16:12:28 PM
:'( :'(  aww Mark I'm so sorry and tearful to hear this as I so hoped for better news.   My thoughts are with you and Dennis now  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Bazsmum on January 02, 2010, 16:29:41 PM
So so sorry to read this Mark! Thinking of you and OH!  :hug: :hug: :hug:

RIP Sweet Willow, play hard on the bridge xxx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Wibblechick on January 02, 2010, 16:38:23 PM
 :( :'(

Im so sad to read this and very sorry for your loss.

Willow was such a beautiful girl  :Luv2:

Even when we know its the right thing to do, its so hard .

RIP Willow - There will be a big welcome at The Bridge for you

 :RIP:

Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Smudgey on January 02, 2010, 16:39:40 PM
So sorry to hear your sad news
my thoughts are with u both
 :RIP: beautiful  Williow  :candle:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: tab on January 02, 2010, 16:44:04 PM
Im so sorry. I was hoping it wouldnt come to this. My thoughts are with you both.
Mogs is another black baby at the bridge for her t o play with
RIP Willow
play well at the bridge baby
 :hug: :hug: :hug:
love
Tab
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: JackSpratt on January 02, 2010, 17:00:52 PM
Mark and Dennis, my sincerest condolences. We all know how much you two cared for Willow, and it sounds as though you didn't let her down when she needed you the most. Sending you both a hug. :care:

RIP Willow, you'll always be loved by your humans.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls on January 02, 2010, 17:03:50 PM
Oh Mark Im so very sorry  :'( She knew you gave her the best till the end and she loved you for that  :hug:

Safe journey Willow and send your Daddies a rainbow xxx

 :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: sheryl on January 02, 2010, 17:07:36 PM
Oh Mark Hun I am so so sorry  - we all know how much you and Dennis love Willow and you always will, thinking of you both and sending love and   :hug:

RIP sweet Willow - forever in your Daddies hearts xxx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Lottie (Team Svartalfheim's) on January 02, 2010, 17:22:02 PM
Oh Mark I am so so sorry to hear this :( Willow was an absolutely beautiful girl. I'm glad Dennis was there with you. My thoughts are with you both xxxx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Kirst on January 02, 2010, 17:57:14 PM
Mark and Dennis , my heart breaks for you. There is nothing I can say that will make you feel better , but you both know you did the best you possible could for Willow.


I think the idea of the rose is beautiful  - a beautiful flower for a beautiful girl xx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Millys Mum on January 02, 2010, 18:58:54 PM
Sorry mark  :(

RIP willow
:candle:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: snarf on January 02, 2010, 19:21:12 PM
So sorry Mark , willow was a beautiful and obviously much loved girl.
 :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 02, 2010, 19:21:34 PM
Thanks everyone. I keep trying to understand why she went down so quickly. I am beginning to wonder if the vaccination booster pushed her over the edge  :( - OH doesn't think it could be but I googled and there are a few references to it, including Tanya's CRF site which says CRF cats shouldn't be vaccinated. We are going to cat proof in the spring and I will have to think long and hard about vaccs - especially for Clapton.

Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: JackSpratt on January 02, 2010, 19:31:59 PM
I've done that in the past too, Mark. Tried to make sense of a loss that happened too rapidly for no apparent reason. Sending you a big hug.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on January 02, 2010, 19:40:08 PM
Mark please don't torment yourself.  Willow had CRF and the outcome was always inevitable, its not down to any one thing that you did or did not do.  She was very lucky to have such a caring and knowledgable slave who saw to it that she had the best quality of ife possible.  Some cats with CRF become symptomatic very quickly, others like Willow (and Korky) manage to adapt to their condition as it progresses and live prefectly normal lives for many years so its a shock when their bodies run out of options and they suddenly deteriorate. It was her time. Its heartbreaking but she's at peace now.  So should you be.  You did your best and nobody can do more than that  :hug:  :hug:  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 02, 2010, 19:47:39 PM
I know it's natural but we are both having doubts. OH just asked me if I am 100% sue that she was dead. I am but I even went back inside to discuss arrangements while Dennis waited out the back - I couldn't help myself but went in the give her another kiss and already her little body felt firm. I do hope it is a peaceful passing as she seemed to judder and the vet said "It's OK little girl" or something similar. I was concerned as he put the liquid in the pipe but it didn't seem to be going in very fast so he then attached the bag of fluids to push it along but it meant a slight delay. I really do hope she didn't suffer because of it. I know he is very professional but the best is never enough  :(
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Christine (Blip) on January 02, 2010, 19:55:13 PM
Don't torment yourselves, Mark.  Willow suffers no more  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: clarenmax on January 02, 2010, 20:00:08 PM
She wouldn't have suffered Mark  :hug:  By the sounds of it she was quite 'out of it' anyway, so she wouldn't have felt anything  :hug:

Its so hard when they deteriorate so suddenly, but you have think of the positives, you managed her condition wonderfully, and without such amazing care, she would have given up long ago.  She loved you both  :Luv: and she only started to give up when her body was failing her too badly for it to cope, and you did the kindest thing you possibly could in relieving her any further suffering  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 02, 2010, 20:12:35 PM
Mark, am so sorry.  Have just read about Willow.  My heart goes out to you and Dennis.  Please don't doubt yourself.  You did what was best - it's not ever easy.   :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Sabrina (Auferstehen) on January 02, 2010, 20:16:44 PM
Oh sweetie I'm so sorry.

RIP dear Willow. There are many to meet and show you around the bridge.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Debsymiller (Rufus' mum) on January 02, 2010, 21:01:11 PM
I am so so so sorry Mark, RIP little one. My thoughts are with you and Dennis.  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: pappilon on January 02, 2010, 21:28:49 PM
I am so sorry Mark :'(
My thoughts are with you and Dennis. :hug: :hug:
RIP little Willow. :(
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: ChrisB on January 02, 2010, 22:24:52 PM
So sorry Mark  :hug: to you and Dennis.   Beautiful Willow had the best possible home with you, filled with love and care and she knows that you always did the very best for her.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Kittybabe (Ruth) on January 02, 2010, 22:47:18 PM
I'm so very sorry, Mark and Dennis. I know how much Willow means to you both. Thinking of you. :hug:

Rest now, Willow.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: **TINA** on January 02, 2010, 22:56:11 PM
So very sorry to read this  :'( :'( :'(

My thoughts are with you's  :hug: :hug:

RIP Willow, play hard at the bridge XXXXX
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Den on January 02, 2010, 22:57:23 PM
Just topping up the  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 02, 2010, 23:02:26 PM
So very sorry Mark  :'(  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Zenith (Liz) on January 02, 2010, 23:50:57 PM
I'm so sorry for your loss Mark, love to you and Dennis :(

Bye little Willow xxx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on January 02, 2010, 23:52:44 PM
Mark, hun, I feel for you and Dennis both.  :hug: :hug:

Margaret and I discussed not so long ago how quickly the end is when treatments stop working they do crash from CRF. Margaret had 6 hours notice between spotting her puss was a bit off colour til it all being over. It seems to be with the kidneys the toxins build up inside them so fast, minute by minute not just hour by hour, that the whole thing is over before you've had a chance to think.  :( There was nothing else to be done and Willow is at peace now and not feeling the pain and sickness anymore.  :hug:

Please dismiss any thoughts of things going wrong, bad judgments or mistakes because that way madness lays.  ;)
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: alisonandarchie on January 03, 2010, 00:17:53 AM
Just catching up and was so sorry to read the news about your Darling Willow

Thinking of you and Dennis :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Pudding on January 03, 2010, 00:26:23 AM
So Sorry Mark.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 03, 2010, 00:41:18 AM
Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 03, 2010, 01:14:16 AM
So very sorry Mark ands my thoughts are with you and Dennis  :hug: :hug:

RIP Willow
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: dolcetta46 on January 03, 2010, 02:05:42 AM
I just read this now Mark, there is nothing I can say to make you feel better I just have to give you yet another  :hug:
Willow had a wonderful life with you and Dennis, and now she is free of suffering and watching over all of you. 
Run free and have fun with all the bridge buddies up there beautiful Willow, gone but never forgotten....
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: woodlandcats on January 03, 2010, 09:54:38 AM
So sorry Mark.
RIP Willow, you will find a lot of friends at the bridge.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Feline Costumier on January 03, 2010, 12:12:00 PM
I'm so sorry for both you and Dennis, Willow was a gorgeous girl and you gave her a wonderful life.

RIP little one.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Angiew on January 03, 2010, 15:04:05 PM
sorry Mark, just read this.

RIP Willow.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Gillian Harvey on January 03, 2010, 17:01:52 PM
I wasnt here yesterday, so have only just logged on and seen this  :( - I'm so sorry to hear about Willow Mark  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 03, 2010, 20:55:45 PM
Thanks again everyone  :hug:

Obviously a long way to go but for the first time, OH & I smiled talking about her. Dennis was asking if she had a happy life and did we spoil it by restricting access to some rooms when the B&B was open etc. I reminded him that she presided over breakfast and was often seen flicking bacon off people's plates and getting away with it  :Luv2: - also she was very good at worming her way into people's rooms for fusses. I also mentioned things like her summer bed - made up on the rotary washing line. She will be so missed. Things like the patting of faces in the morning and the way she used to lock onto my hand - her teeth biting the skin between my thumb and finger while she bunny-kicked. I still have a couple of scratches on my hand and I wish I could stop them from healing.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on January 03, 2010, 21:08:50 PM
Beautiful pictures Mark - they show just how loved she was - I'm glad you can smile amid your sadness  :hug:  :hug:.  I know what you mean about the scratches - I have 2 permanent scars on my right arm from when Korky freaked out as I tried to put him in his carrier for a vet visit (he was claustrophobic when he was younger but grew out of it).  They are a tangible reminder of him and always make me smile when I happen to notice them.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Liz on January 03, 2010, 21:54:23 PM
Mark she had a wonderful life with you and Dennis and the photo's show it, smilingthrough the tears is part of the healing process, she will always be with you there is just something about black cats we currently have 9 as they are my favourite colour and of course our Clan cat supreme leader is my darling black Sweetie :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: alisonandarchie on January 03, 2010, 23:07:31 PM
Lovely pic. Willow could not have had a better life :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on January 04, 2010, 00:39:10 AM
That's a coincidence you saying that about scratches Mark because I remember I felt exactly the same when my Tigger went. He liked a chunk of two of mummy's fingers.  :evillaugh: And something weird too because those final scratches took forever to heal.  I think it was his parting gift.   :innocent:

Willow had the best of lives with you and Dennis and she wanted for nothing.  :Luv2: It does get a little bit easier as the good memories return with every passing day.  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Janeyk on January 04, 2010, 06:55:34 AM
 :Luv: Lovely photos Mark  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 04, 2010, 07:10:19 AM
Wonderful photos, Mark.

Also know what you mean about scratches.  I have a long one on my thigh from when my lost boy, Flynn, fell in the bath while he was watching me in it.  I'll never be a Bluebell girl now, but it makes me smile whenever I catch sight of it.   :)  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: blackcat on January 04, 2010, 07:10:47 AM
Mark. So sorry. I only just read this thread. How sad for you and Dennis, as I know she held a special place in your hearts. Sounds like she had a peaceful parting, so please don't go over the 'what if's.' She had a longer and happier life you with you two than she would have had anywhere else. The time comes when we all have to say goodbye to our lovely wee babies. It is so sad that they live such a short time ... :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 04, 2010, 09:46:48 AM
I know we need to remember her the way she spent the majority of her life as a little princess rather than the last hours.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: JackSpratt on January 04, 2010, 10:48:17 AM
I know we need to remember her the way she spent the majority of her life as a little princess rather than the last hours.

Exactly right, Mark. Julie is spot on with the "don't ponder the situation because that way madness lies" comment. Just remember the good times, smile at how loved she was and make sure you're there for each other. :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Leanne on January 04, 2010, 10:50:37 AM
Oh Mark, I am so sorry to be reading this thead.

Willow was a stunning looking lady, and it sounds like she had a happy life with you and Dennis, remember the good times

RIP Willow play hard on the bridge sweetheart
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Ann Clarke (Tabby cat) on January 04, 2010, 13:34:34 PM
Have just caught up with this Mark and I'm so sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you and Dennis.

RIP Willow - play hard at the bridge darling  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Bazsmum on January 04, 2010, 18:09:47 PM
Beautiful pictures of a beautiful girl Mark.....This is the way you know her!  :Luv2: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 04, 2010, 18:35:53 PM
Thanks   :hug:

Back to harsh realities. I asked the VN the other day if there was somewhere that a bush could be planted in a remembrnce garden with maybe a plaque. Lynn, the practice manager rang today and said there is nowhere in Kent like that. She said the main one they use, Cherry Tree crematorium is in a cherry orchard and there is a separate part where ashes can be scattered but there are no visiting arrangements. The only place she knows of is in Cambridge. As she rightly pointed out, it as a long way and we would probably never get round to going. She suggested burying the urn in the garden and planting a bush. I told her the ground here is rock hard (It used to be the beach until a few hundred years ago and is really stony with millions of oysrer shells) - she then said Carol, one of the VNs suggested planting the urn in a pot so we could always take them with ius if we move. Originally, Dennis had said he didn't want ashes in the house - and I also pointed out that he didn't want to upset himself whenever he went in the garden. anyway, Dennis sais he has had a chance to think and doesn't want her ashes put somewhere she has no connection with. We are not religious and don't believe in rainbow bridge etc but would prefer her with us. Any other ideas would be welcomed. I have mentioned having them nade into a crystal or vasr but we both think that is a bit weird. In the meantime, I am going to collect Willow's ashes at the end of the week but keep them somewhere out of sight of OH
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Bazsmum on January 04, 2010, 18:39:18 PM
You can buy quite big pots for garden bushes etc, trim them so they dont overgrow.....Its really hard knowing quite what to do in these situations.... :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 04, 2010, 18:42:44 PM
I was going to suggest the same as Bazsmum, Mark.  If you buy a good big pot - like half a barrel, then you could place Willow's ashes in the pot, and plant a lovely shrub .  If you ever moved, you could take it with you, and if by chance the plant didn't prosper, you could remove it and plant another without worrying about disturbing Willow's last resting place too much.   :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: bunglycat on January 04, 2010, 18:43:33 PM
I have mine in the house with a picture in front of them ( i have 3 ) and i find it quite comforting and if i do move they can come with me .
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Kay and Penny on January 04, 2010, 18:52:28 PM
there are some lovely urns suitable for placing in a garden on this site Mark

http://www.poffins.co.uk/acatalog/caskets.html

the black wooden cat, for instance, which could be kept outside if treated
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on January 04, 2010, 18:58:32 PM
Mark, not sure if these people have a garden of remembrance but might be worth a phone call.  :hug:

http://www.hotfroguk.co.uk/Companies/Thanet-Animal-Cemetery
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 04, 2010, 19:20:41 PM
Thanks Julie - I will give them a call tomorrow. It is now looking like OH wants to keep Willow's ashes close. It is Dennis' call really as he adopted her. He really used to get bothered if she chose me to pick her up but I have spent more time with her over the years than Dennis so she came to me for comfort I think. She used to stand full-length up our legs and hold herself rigid while she was picked up and hung over a shoulder  :Luv2:

Thanks for the ideas everyone - I will show OH when the tears are flowing a bit less  :shy:

I have one of those carved boxes that was a gift years ago - not sure where it is. I like the multicoloured glass ball.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Christine (Blip) on January 04, 2010, 19:43:42 PM
We are not religious and don't believe in rainbow bridge etc but would prefer her with us. Any other ideas would be welcomed.

I was going to suggest the same as Bazsmum, Mark.  If you buy a good big pot - like half a barrel, then you could place Willow's ashes in the pot, and plant a lovely shrub .  If you ever moved, you could take it with you, and if by chance the plant didn't prosper, you could remove it and plant another without worrying about disturbing Willow's last resting place too much.   :hug:

As you know, Mark  :hug:  my outlook, like yours, is a very secular one.  But Sue's sounds like a good idea to commemorate Willow if that is what you would like to do  :hug: 
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Kirst on January 04, 2010, 20:15:12 PM
I too think the large Planter and a lovely bush or tree would be ideal. You can also have ashes made into jewellery or glass ornaments if you would like that. :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Liz on January 04, 2010, 20:31:08 PM
Mark we have a flower or bush for every season we have lost a furkid and when OH finally gets round to digging our garden of remembrance they will all go in to it in vac packed bags sealed with their boxes and urns ( we dug up Toerag and Haggis to bring them with us - they have full sized recycled head stones)

Currently ours reside on 2 shelves in our bedrooms each one with an id tag with their birth/adoption dates and sate of when they passed.  We aren't overly religious but I like to keep themclose by its comforting - I also have my remembrance wall with photo's of my bridge kids and my missing kids its very comforting :hug:

The bulbs and bushes seem to reflect our kids - I still have Toerags mini  daff and tulip bulbs in a pot and they come up every year and have sone since 2000 when I planted them
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Daisymac on January 04, 2010, 21:44:49 PM
Mark I have just seen this,  I am so very sorry  :hug: :hug:

RIP Willow play hard at the bridge baby girl x
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 04, 2010, 23:07:48 PM
Strangely I am almost certain the two of you will find great comfort having her ashes in the house.  I don't believe in any form of after life but still take great comfort in having a little of Dingle's fur.  She passed away in 1997 but, although not exactly on display, I still get warm memories when I come across the container  :Luv:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Kay and Penny on January 04, 2010, 23:14:22 PM
I have two cats buried in my garden, below inscribed granite slabs

if I ever moved, which is unlikely, I would take the slabs with me, and would not mind about leaving the actual graves behind, though I would make sure they were covered by ordinary slabs

for me it is photographs and memories which really count - but everyone has their own way of finding comfort
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 06, 2010, 20:03:18 PM
There are just so many reminders. I had an email and a text today to remind me to worm "All 4 cats"  :(

As it is, I was on autodrive last week and picked up some Milbemax. I asked for 3 as I have a 1/2 tablet in the drawer which would have been for Willow. Anyway, they gave me 4 for the price of 3 anyway.

We have a very large table in the dining room which oly gets used once in a blue moon. I said to OH we should donate it to a charity (there is a charity furniture shop up the road) and get a smaller one - mabe with drop leaves. OH said as we have a photo of Willow on it, he wants to keep it as he doesn't want to get rid of remindersof her.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Rosella moggy on January 06, 2010, 22:21:22 PM
OH said as we have a photo of Willow on it, he wants to keep it as he doesn't want to get rid of remindersof her.

Aaaw.  Bless him.  He's nice ain't he?   :)
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on January 06, 2010, 22:28:15 PM
Is this the first pet Dennis has lost, Mark?  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: JackSpratt on January 06, 2010, 23:02:33 PM
There are just so many reminders. I had an email and a text today to remind me to worm "All 4 cats"  :(

I still get them despite emailing asking the company to amend their details and unsubscribing. It's pretty upsetting as mine are for Carrie, Jack, Toby, Parsley and Sage. We've lost Jack, Toby and Parsley so it's pretty traumatic being reminded to flea them.

I have a cardigan that I can't wear anymore because I see it as "Tobys cardigan." There was only a short space of time from when he went into remission from his diabetes and when he was diagnosed with advanced CRF and he took to sleeping on my big grey cardigan - after we lost him I hooked it on the back of the door and I've never worn it since. It's off limits in my head, because it's his.....Grieving takes time, you guys will be OK because you have each other but it's still raw at the moment. :care:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: maryas on January 06, 2010, 23:56:35 PM
R.I.P little darling - I hope you meet up with my Smudge at the Bridge.

God bless.

Mary  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 07, 2010, 00:19:55 AM
Is this the first pet Dennis has lost, Mark?  :hug: :hug:

As an adult, yes - but I am in the same boat as the last time I lost a pet was when our Tinker had to be PTS when I was about 12.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Bazsmum on January 08, 2010, 04:30:41 AM
Just popping in to give OH and yourself some much needed  :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: maryas on January 08, 2010, 11:21:02 AM
Me too Mark   :hug: :hug:

Hugs were great when My Smudge went. My 3 ft tall Panda was my HUG buddy until I got Bonnie.  :Luv2:

Bonnie uses it as another bed now  :rofl: :Luv2:

Mary
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: carol377 on January 08, 2010, 11:38:05 AM
Hi Mark im new here so i don't know you or your cat Willow, but i want to pass my thoughts on to you at this sad time, im sat here crying buckets for your loss as memories come flooding back of my  beautiful boy Elliot a long haired moggy who sadly passed away at only 3 years old suddenly due to an enlarged heart., I feel your pain and your loss and time does heal your memories will be with you forever and your beautiful girl will remain in your heart always.  :hug: xx

Take care  xx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Gatos on January 08, 2010, 20:32:11 PM
Hi Mark,

I'm so sorry to hear about Willow. 
One of our little ones is called Willow too.

Hope you're OK.

x
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Ela on January 09, 2010, 14:43:36 PM
I have only just caught up with this thread Mark. I am so sorry.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 11, 2010, 13:08:55 PM
Thanks everyone.

The vets have just phoned. Willow's ashes are ready to collect. I will have to wait until next week to collect them as I have exams.

I have a horrible feeling now - It sort of makes it even more real  :'(
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on January 11, 2010, 13:11:44 PM
Mark, would you like one of us to collect them and bring them to you? Angela, Caroline and myself are in and out of there all week.  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 11, 2010, 13:25:30 PM
Thanks Julie - do you mind if I speak to Dennis first? as I'm not sure where they would go at the moment. He is having a tough time with it all so I want to try to do what's best.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Pinkbear (Julie) on January 11, 2010, 13:27:47 PM
Of course, Mark.  :hug: Just making the offer if it helps the situation... always hard to know what is least upsetting.  :'( :doh:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Christie on January 11, 2010, 15:22:26 PM
I just saw this post, Mark; I"m so very very sorry for your loss. She was a lovely girl, reminds me so much of my beloved Lucia. My most sincere condolences to you and your family.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Bazsmum on January 11, 2010, 15:45:31 PM
 :care: :grouphug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 11, 2010, 17:51:02 PM
Thanks everyone - she is missed  :(
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 20, 2010, 06:49:52 AM
I think I am going to pick her ashes up today. I'm not sure exactly what we are doing yet as OH seems to change the subject when I talk about it. I brought the subject up this morning but OH has an important meeting today so I didn't want to push the issue. There is no real rush. I think we will get a Willow plant/bush - We have a garden centre at college so I will see what they have there tomorrow. I am guessing a young plant/shrub couldn't be planted outside yet?

I think OH is beginning to come to terms as he said we can get a runner for the hallway - the previous 3 were all peed on repeatedly and had to be thrown.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Christine (Blip) on January 20, 2010, 11:40:23 AM
I think I am going to pick her ashes up today.

 :hug:

A willow would be lovely - I'm sure the garden centre will advise the best time to plant.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Janeyk on January 20, 2010, 13:08:29 PM
:hug: Mark

a Willow sounds lovely  :Luv:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: clarenmax on January 20, 2010, 13:31:58 PM
I think that's a lovely idea  :hug:

Be prepared for mixed emotions when you collect the ashes - its lovely to bring them home, but it all seems so final, even though we know they're gone.  I thought I was going to be OK when I collected Max, but I was in absolute pieces sat in the car for 10 minutes balling my eyes out  :shy:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 20, 2010, 17:28:04 PM
It was mixed emotions. I made a pathetic joke about the container looking like Yardley talc and that I could give it to my mum for xmas. Lynn, the practice manager said she had to collect her dad's ashes - and even worse, her mum knocked them off the mantelpiece  :-: - she didn't want to use the hoover so used a dustpan and brush  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: maryas on January 20, 2010, 20:17:45 PM
Oh Mark  :hug: :hug: :hug:

Mary
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: clarenmax on January 20, 2010, 20:25:41 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Kay and Penny on January 20, 2010, 21:32:03 PM
there are dwarf willows, Mark, which will do very well in a decent sized pot

and are tough enough to be planted now, as long as you make sure they get lots of water, especially if the compost/soil is frozen
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 20, 2010, 21:39:22 PM
Thanks. I looked in the garden centre but couldn't see anything. I went to the indoor bit to ask but the 3 members of staff were in deep conversation about football or something. I waited a while and gave up and left. We have plenty of other garden centres here. I will go again on Saturday. Luckily OH isn't fazed and said he is glad she is back with us.

I had to go through plastic boxes of stuff today - there were plenty of papers etc that still had reminders of Willow on them  :shy:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: JackSpratt on January 20, 2010, 21:44:02 PM
I looked through my purse the other day and found a checklist of things I wanted to ask the vet when I last took Jack; I put it back in my purse. My partner asked why I'd done that and I said it still upset me a lot to see it in there, but at some point it would hurt less and then I'd know I was progressing through the grieving stages. It's an odd way to do things, I know.

I'm glad Dennis is OK and you don't feel too bad. I think you should've interrupted the garden centre assistants; cheeky so and so's ignoring you.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: fluffybunny on January 21, 2010, 18:51:04 PM
Oh no Mark I haven't been on here much so I missed this - so sorry to hear you lost your beloved little Willow xxx
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on February 23, 2010, 16:32:35 PM
Thanks FB  :hug:

i haven't looked at this thread and I'm not ready to read through it yet, but I have finally found a nice glass jar in Wilkinsons that the container the ashes came back in will fit. I have been searching all over. I have the plant, pot and soil so will do it over the next few days. The Camellia is beginning to flower. I have kept it indoors in the oriel window so it has had plenty of light but I'm sure it will need planting very soon.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: JackSpratt on February 23, 2010, 17:39:15 PM
I'm still hoping to get soapstone boxes for my two, Mark. Glad you found something and Willows plant's doing well. :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: swampmaxmum on February 26, 2010, 16:02:26 PM
Mark, I'm so very sorry. I haven't been on Purrs really and have just seen your very sad news. RIP little Willow. My thoughts are with you  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on February 26, 2010, 16:46:07 PM
Thanks Kate  :hug:

Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Maddiesmum on March 21, 2010, 12:28:11 PM
Me too Mark, not been around for ages.  I am so very sorry to hear about Willow.  She was such a lucky cat to have you to love and look after her.  Big hug  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on March 22, 2010, 09:23:58 AM
Thanks MM  :hug:

We miss our baby  :(

It is amazing how much quieter the house seems as she had such a huge personality and was always into everything. It is odd when I open the ironing board up, not having a cat landing on it - the same goes with bleaching kitchen counters, opening the front door, working on the laptop at a table etc etc  :Luv2: Also outside in the garden, she was always standing up against my leg wanting to be picked up  :Luv2:

I don't miss her little "liquid gold" gifts though    :shy:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Maddiesmum on March 22, 2010, 10:14:15 AM
It's terrible isn't it?  We love them so much and miss them so much but time will help you to heal  :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 02, 2011, 00:33:24 AM
I can't believe it's a year since we took Willow to the vet for the last time.

We still think about you often Willow. You were so loved   :Luv2:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_1nlXCMUtU&feature=related
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: CarolM (Wendolene) on January 02, 2011, 00:40:53 AM
 :hug:  :hug:  Thats the thing with loss - it feels like yesterday and forever all at the same time.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on January 02, 2011, 01:12:23 AM
 :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Tiggy's Mum on January 02, 2011, 01:12:39 AM
 :hug: :hug: :hug:

:hug:  :hug:  Thats the thing with loss - it feels like yesterday and forever all at the same time.

That's exactly it  :shy:

Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Mark on January 02, 2011, 10:00:38 AM
OH doesn't seem to have realised so I won't mention it. It will only cause upset. One xmas gift I had planned but never got round to is taking lots of pictures off the PCs that haven't been used for 3 or 4 years and filling an album with prints. As handy as digital photos are, there is nothing like looking at photos in a book.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: clarenmax on January 02, 2011, 10:13:03 AM
 :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: madamcat (Edd) on January 02, 2011, 10:13:49 AM
Mark - Willow was beautiful  :hug: :hug: :hug:

I have a special little album for each of my babes  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: JackSpratt on January 02, 2011, 11:41:17 AM
:hug:  :hug:  Thats the thing with loss - it feels like yesterday and forever all at the same time.

Agreed. When your mind allows you to go back to losing a furbabe, it becomes almost raw and fresh again but at the same time there's a chasm of time between when you got to have them with you and the time you haven't. Sending you both hugs, Mark. :care:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: bunglycat on January 02, 2011, 13:43:14 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on January 02, 2011, 14:55:59 PM
 :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Wibblechick on January 02, 2011, 16:34:36 PM
 :hug:  Thinking of you both
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: Fire Fox on January 02, 2011, 22:05:30 PM
Oh Mark  :hug: glad/ sad you can share the anniversary with Purrs. I hope you can both find space in your life for another furball, as I know you both have so much love to give and you have had a tough year.
Title: Re: Willow - Our baby has gone
Post by: maryas on January 02, 2011, 22:32:18 PM
 :hug: :hug: :hug:

Gone but never forgotten Mark.  :Luv2:

Mary