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Cat Rescue & Rehoming => Rescue & Rehoming General => Topic started by: Millies mum on December 18, 2009, 13:02:36 PM
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Hi all i'm in a dilema about my next doors cats, the youngest being around 6 months is out in this awful weather with no shelter or food.As soon as i open my door she tries to run in the house for food she got in the other day and left a large present on my sons bed :sick: I have been feeding her and the other cat as they are starving but i can't take her on due to have 4 cats and 4 dogs of my own.I have found our local CPL and they are not taking in any cats due to being full as i was going to say that i had found her i know it's bad of me doing that but i thought she would be better off and they would find her a home.
Now i do not know what to do and this poor little girl is outside my door freezing any suggestions please as she is not being looked after but her owners and i can't just ignore her in this weather
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Could you not take her in -I know would a squeeze for you.
where about are you?
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Do the neighbours know you are feeding her, or just they dont care >:(
I would ring the cp for some advice and hopefully get her on their list waiting to come in.
I would take her in and wait for her to be rehomed, but by the time it gets round to that you would more than likely fallen in love with her yourself :evillaugh:
Is she spayed do you know? Not a good age for being outseid if she's not :scared:
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they know we're feeding her but turn a blind eye why they have animals is beyond me, i did sort of take her in but the OH is saying no more animals as we have enough.She is not spayed i even went round there saying i have a voucher for a cut price spay 2 months ago and they've not been round to collect still.
I live near walsall if anyone can take her please let me know even her mum is out in the cold along with rabbits in the garden and they have just brought a puppy >:(
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Millies mum - how many cats do they have? Did you explain the urgency of the situation to the CP? (Unspayed female left out all the time....) I know they're absolutely bursting everywhere, but I think a case like that is classed as priority due to the "knock on" effect it's likely to have. Could be wrong.
Makes me sad too, there are some people around here that are the same...
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Are you able to provide a shelter for her in the meantime. An plastic box on its side in sheltered spot with bedding and heat pad. At least it would be something. Poor little mite.
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I would phone the cp and tell them she is possibly pregnant, its possibly right?
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I have rang them again and left a message hopefully they will ring back :(
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I would have thought purposely leaving a cat out in the cold would be a welfare issue. Maybe the RSPCA could advise although I don't have much faith in them.
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i wouldn't expect them to do anything to tell you the truth she is fed ( by me ) so they can't say she's that much under weight she just has no shelter
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But that comes under the five freedoms - so they are basically breaking the law.
* proper and sufficient food and water
* adequate shelter
* the opportunity to display normal patterns of behaviour
* physical handling in a way which minimises the likelihood of unreasonable or unnecessary pain or distress
* protection from, and rapid diagnosis of, any significant injury or disease.
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Aw that is not on especially in this weather, you be who you are and feed her, hope someone from CP or wherever can help! :Luv2: :hug: :hug:
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could you try Cramar Cat sanctuary 0121-445-1840 they are J2 M42 near hopwood. I doubt they have room but it is worth a try.
I would love her - but Zubin will not accept another cat, he dislikes Thai with a passion.
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But that comes under the five freedoms - so they are basically breaking the law.
* proper and sufficient food and water
* adequate shelter
* the opportunity to display normal patterns of behaviour
* physical handling in a way which minimises the likelihood of unreasonable or unnecessary pain or distress
* protection from, and rapid diagnosis of, any significant injury or disease.
Trust me, Mark makes no difference. I've reported three cats in this area that I know are regularly shut out for prolonged periods of time. All of them are still where they've always been. (And yes, I do feel like a snitch....but if those cats froze because I hadn't done the only thing I'm legally allowed to do I'd not forgive myself.)
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any more news on this poor kitten? have you secured a rescue place for her or have you taken her in?! terrible that she is left out in this awful weather. hope you can sort something soon. would the owners even notice if she just "disappeared"
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They are both still out in the cold i have put a blanket and a large plastic box outside and i keep supplying lots of food and i check them as soon as i see them too
they wouldn't be bothered if they disappeared at all the kitten is starting to become semi feral i think as she doesn't want handling but she will have a purr still when stroking her though probably because she knows i'm going to give her some food :)
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A few months back I "found" a little kitten in my front garden. I left her there for about 30 mins, mewing in distress, before I took her in as it`s a very busy road. We called her Tia, as she was so unusually marked being white with chocolate brown swirls.
I logded her as found with local vets etc, and kept any eye out for any lost notices. I must admit I didnt look too hard when I realised wher she may have come from! When no-one came forward Angie agreed I could foster her until she found a new home. Little Tia is now causing chaos with one of my best friends and her 3 other cats. She came to pick me up to go on a course, and went home with a kitten!
I`m sure Tia is one of a litter of 4 born near me this summer, whose mum lives outside all year round with a shed for shelter. The little lass is only about a year old herself. I often see her mewing to come in, and feed her if I see her in my garden as I`m not sure how much attention she gets. Her brother hasnt been seen for months, and he was so friendly. My neighbour kept returning him to me as he thought he was one of mine! I wish I`d "lost" him too!
The people seem to have had a sucession of very young cats over the last few years, who all disappear after a year or so. I worry about the mum as she hasnt been around for a few weeks, and think she may be expecting again as she doesnt appear to have been spayed.
They now have two (!!) young terrier pups!
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the poor cats. how can anyone think its ok to leave them in such terrible weather, they arent fit to have animals at all. isnt there anyone who could take them if you were able to get them in a carrier? its awful to think of them so cold. are you in the midlands? i wish a transport run could be arranged to get them to us and i could keep them safe until they went to rescue or a new home.
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I can get them in a carrier easily as they know i feed them so they let me stroke and pick them up but not for long.I would honestly take them in but as i say i have 4 cats and 4 dogs of my own and if i took the kitten in then it wouldn't be fair on her mum so i'm stuck in a corner of what to do and it's awful when they are sitting on my door step or on my window sill :'(
i have transport but i'm awful with directions Bramble if you could take them where are you situated?
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Did you try ringing Cramar? 0121-445-1840
they need to be somewhere warm and loving -
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hi, we are in derbyshire, near derby. i am not a rescue just a very concerned animal lover. i could keep them in our spare bedroom safe, warm and fed until i get a rescue space for them. we have rescued cats and dogs of our own and i know 2 people who run cat rescues, at least they would be safe. pm me if you need to and cant find anywhere else for them. bramble
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Bramble i have pm you,i've not tried Cramar yes as under the circumstances i don't think they would accept them
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Im sure that weather permitting we could organise a transport run for these little ones. Well done MM and Bramble for trying to help x
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reading this has just depressed me so much....why are people such bxxxxxxs?
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Having spoke with Bramble bless her she can take them in i'm sooooo happy, now this is a silly question but is anyone passing through Walsall to Derby in the next few days ;)
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milliesmum is a star! her and husband are bringing the mum and kitten to us tomorrow morning. i have a spare bedroom ready for them and will keep all posted with how they are settling in. i think the most important thing is getting them spayed. i will phone a couple of local vets to see what they charge and can hopefully get a voucher to help with the cost. good luck for the jourey lisa, hope you get here ok. thanks. bramble
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Woo Hoo ... so pleased these little ones are gonna be safe and warm. Thank you so much for helping Bramble. Hope youhave a safe Journey Lisa ... drive carefully hun.
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Great news - well done Millies Mum and Bramble, XX
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Thats really great news -thankyou Bramble and take care driving Lisa- its raining here at the moment (Lincolnshire / Nottinghamshire )
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Well done helping these little babes out.....Nice one! ;) :hug:
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Happy Christmas to all involved and we will love to see some pictures ;D
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Bramble you are The Saviour - when Mum & Baby are settle maybe a photo :shy:
hugs to you and your new visitors xxxxxxxx :hug: :hug:
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hi merry xmas to you all. everything ready for the new arrivals but the kitten didnt turn up at lisas for her breakfast so they havent made it to us yet. we hoping she is ok. lisa will let me know later if she appears. hopefully they will be with us in the next couple of days. i really hope so. will post some pics as soon as i can. dawn
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Fingers crossed the kitten is OK - I wonder if it s possible that someone has taken her in (not for a cheap xmas present I hope :shify: )
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Sorry i've not up dated you all but i have my little one poorly at the moment.On xmas eve i had mum in the carrier all ready and waited for her baby to come but she never appeared so we had to let mum back out, her little one turned up about 5 hrs later so she is fine and both have had lots of turkey :). I can't get over to Bramble until probably Wednesday or Thursday is that ok with you? i don't want to phone over xmas if you have family over so i've thought i'd post so everyone knows they are ok still.We'll get them over eventually x
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hi all. lisa and OH bought mum and kitten here today.they very confused i think. had to bath kitten straight away as poor thing had squits in carrier on way here and was covered in it poor girl. they settled in our spare bedroom both love having a fuss especially the kitten. both been purring and mum licked my hand! they both gorgeous. had some cat biscuits and loving being in warm igloo beds. thanks so much lisa for caring for them enough to feed them and bring them over here. will post some pics when camrea battery is charged up! bramble
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Thats great news -glad they are safe and warm -big thankyou to you and Millymum -and her OH. :hug: :hug:
Looking forward to seeing some pics when the time is right .
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Good to hear you've got them both settled :hug:
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just been and given them their tea. wouldnt have thought they could eat while they were purring so much!! they are so sweet. kitten cant get enuogh fuss bless her and mum keeps licking my hand when i stroke her. they are both little purring machines! will try to get camera working so i can take some pics. i am so glad they are here and out of the cold now, it was no life for them. they are so lucky lisa fed them and cared enough to do something about them.
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Well done all! they sound gorgeous, look forward to photos ;D
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Bramble is a star for taking these two in, i'm so glad they were not out in this cold weather last night.When i dropped them off yesterday i wasn't sure who was the most excited to have them Dawn or her other pets :Luv2:
Thank you Dawn for looking after mum and baby they sound as if they have settled in really well already :hug:
Happy New Year to you all xx
can't wait for the pics
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how lovely of you to say that lisa. thanks so much for bringing them, was lovely to meet you. mum and baby are fine. they settled well during the night, i heard them playing a couple of times! baby loves to play with toys, bless her. they are so sweet. i cant believe how freindly they are. they purr so much when i fuss them. i have fallen for them big time! wish i could keep them!
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So pleased they are in out of the cold. well done you two :hug: :hug:
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Definitely - brilliant job! Piccies, please. :)
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Assuming the situation it may be best not to leave pics up :shy:
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oh bless them, i've never seen mum look so happy and contented :hug:
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have deleted pics!
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Assuming the situation it may be best not to leave pics up :shy:
I suppose. Although if the people in question couldn't be bothered to care for the cats, I've no idea why they'd be loitering on a rescue and rehoming forum.....but you never know. :scared:
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have deleted pics!
OH no -I missed the photos :'(
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I know Dawn has taken the babies to the vets today to get them checked and jabbed and unfortunately the little one maybe pregnant poor thing she's only around 7 months old :'(
If she is i know Dawn will do the best for she has already got them to come out of their shell i think they must be glad of the dry warm house they are in and Dawn giving them lots of cuddles :hug:
I don't think they would have survived outside with the weather we have had the last few days.
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mum and baby doing really well. they were very good at the vets until he tried to take blood for a blood test. i was sitting inwaiting room with my head in my hands listening to them screech! poor things were really scared and were lashing out a lot.he thinks they should be tested so baby will have blood taken when she is spayed so she wont feel anything and mum will prob have to be sedated to have hers taken. baby has quite a belly so i asked him to feel if she was pregnant. he couldnt tell for sure so she must be very early on if she is. he was bit worried as her belly is a bit big. apart from that they got a clean bill of health. got to keep eye on baby, see if she gets any bigger. he says she can be spayed while pregnant. i hope it doesnt come to that and she is just chubby! been trying to think of nice names for them both. i have a short list that keeps getting longer! they are gorgeous and cant get enough fuss. i am besotted already!
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Awww, good stuff. I really want to see pictures now.....can I PM my email address so you can send them to me?
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i hope she isn't pregnant but if she's spayed that would save her going through a pregnancy at her age, what names do you have Dawn i used to call the baby Lucy though it was something else originally :shify:
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Have they been wormed?
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Yes Dawn has wormed both of them a couple of days ago :Luv2:
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If you decide to spay her possibly pregnant then its really better to do it asap then wait and see :shy:
Tho if you really want to know she could have an ultrasound.
What are the vets wanting to test them for? :tired:
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the vet wants to test them for fiv. he says its very nasty and could be dangerous for my cats if i keep these 2, even if mine have been vaccinated. i think its just fiv. just been upstairs fussing and playing with them. yes jackspratt, course you can pm me and i will send you pics.!
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forgot to say, i am getting a voucher towards getting her spayed. i really hope she isnt pregnant,it would be awful to have to get rid of her kittens when she spayed. cant decide on names! i have a very long short list at the mo!
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I thought fiv cats could live with non-fiv??
has anyone missed them yet??
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There is a lot of misinformation about FIV and, sadly, a number of vets are still anti FIV cats and will urge to pts. This is absolutely unnecessary. If it does turn out that the cats are FIV+ please check out the Glasgow University Vet School website for information on FIV
http://www.gla.ac.uk/faculties/vet/cad/informationforowners/felineimmunodeficiencyvirusfiv/
The risk of a non FIV+ cat catching the virus from an infected cat in the same household is approximately 1%. The virus is spread primarily by mating and deep cuts, usually unneutered Toms fighting. The virus is very fragile and only lives outside the body for a few seconds; hence, the low risk of spread of infection from cats sharing food bowls.
Hopefully, these little ones won't be FIV+
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no, lisa has spoken to the neighbours and they havent even mentioned the cats or noticed they are gone! shows how important they were to them. the vet did scare me about the fiv virus. i really wanted to let them out of the spare room so they could wander round the house and gradually meet our 4 cats, but he said not to do that and make sure they had their own bowl etc as it can be spread easily. i just want to do what is best for them and my own 4. poppy and daisy are the favourite names at the mo! just been sitting with them. they seem very happy and content. thank goodness they are not outside today.
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try not to worry too much, some vets have some funny ideas, my friends told her to bite her kittens ear if it bit her!!! I think the glasgow site is pretty much cutting edge science so I'd take a look and make your own mind up
can't believe they haven't been missed yet, just shows what a good thing it was
I like poppy and daisy!
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have looked at that site, it is very good, packed with info. lets just hope they are fiv negative when they are tested. am dreading taking them for the blood test after yesterdays drama, poor things. will try not to worry too much, dont even know if thy have got it yet. have decided, am calling mummy poppy and baby daisy!
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How about Habika (means Sweetheart) and Etsu?(means Delight.) As you can tell, I like my unusual names. ;)
PM being sent now. :)
With regards to the potential pregnancy, it would be terribly sad if she was pregnant and you had to get her spayed but you have to be realistic - do you know up to eight good forever homes that kittens could go to? That sounds really harsh, I know. :(
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I wouldnt worry to much about the fiv i was told by my vet to have them all tested as 2 had sore gums!! I was worried sick then the lovely people on here put my minds as rest so i had one tested came back negative & i didnt bother having the rest done & changed vets xxx
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As others have said I wouldn't worry too much re the FIV, some vets still have some strange ideas about it and how easily it is spread etc. I have to say I can't remember us ever having had an FIV positive female in our CP branch, we've had a few FIV+ but they have all been unneutered males (and all have gone on to lead very good lives in new homes I might add). Unless they have been prone to fighting with other cats I think it's unlikely they will be positive. Well done on sorting these babies out MM and Bramble ;D
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We have had FIV Babes here at the Clan one lasted 8 months but she was totally feral and then our Sailor lived to be 7 years old with no intervention - his litter sister Amber is FIV- and is still with us - we may have another feral with it but haven't caught him since we moved here 3.5 years ago he is a lover not a fighter unless you are human!!!!!
All our FIV were cat lovers just human haters bless till Sailor tuned a corner 8 weeks before his sad loss then the light went on and he was a purr monster!
All the rest are negative as we had them all tested after loosing Gem and 3 of her kittens to FIP - all the incommers have been tested to except Indie who is being speyed next week but will stay with us regardless of her test result - she is a lover of cats and dogs but working on the human angle! :shocked:
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sorry jackspratt, not sure how to send the pics to you. will get hubby to do it when he home from work!! thanks for all the info and reassurance from everyone about fiv, i dont know much about it but am starting to learn! is it really best to get them tested? hopefully they will be clear but i want them to stay whatever the result. phoned our usual vet (went to different one yesterday as their vaccs are so much cheaper) our vet is cheaper for the blood test and is sure they wont need sedating for it! why cant they all be on the same page? it gets very confusing when you have to shop around!
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Its upto u if u get them tested or not Hun, i had Sooty tested but more for peace of mind as the vet had really scared me once his came back negative i didnt test the other 3. They r all healthy & dont fight with each other & dont go outside so it wouldnt matter to me if they were fiv + x x
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I had my Ollie tested and goodness knows what would of happened if he was poss, he would of been going nowhere tho no matter what my vet said :P
Hopefully this little one is ok with her being young :)
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i will have them tested as soon as some snow clears and i can get over to our vet! weather is much worse here today. have just given them their tea. they are so sweet and cant wait for a fuss. thank goodness lisa got them here before all this snow came down. have decided mummy is poppy and baby is daisy, think it suits them!
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Bramble tells me that the furbaby's are going for their blood test today so fingers crossed for them both :crossed:
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Good luck for their tests! ;) :hug:
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:yayyy: They're both clear :cheer:
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Really good news
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poppy and daisy had their blood test today, without sedation! the vet nurse has just phoned and they are both clear for fiv and fev. i am so pleased. thats another ordeal over for them! hurrah!
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I'm so glad they are happy and healthy now,their orignal so called owners have not even bothered to look for them or put posters out and in this weather they surely would not have survived.
Bramble you are a star :blow kiss:
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Great news ;D
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Wonderful news! ;D
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Great news - well done Bramble and MM.
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poppy and daisy had their blood test today, without sedation! the vet nurse has just phoned and they are both clear for fiv and fev. i am so pleased. thats another ordeal over for them! hurrah!
Excellent news xxx
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excellent news!
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Fabulous news xxxxx :Luv: :Luv: