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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: naboocat on October 21, 2009, 16:30:22 PM
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our poor Naboo has gone to the rainbow bridge today after the vet found he had feline aids & was too poorly :(
we only got him 5months ago from the rspca so feel very upset that we've only had him such a short time.
He was found as a stray by the rspca & I'm just wondering if anyone knows what health checks they are supposed to do on strays before re-homing them? Should they be testing for feline aids before re-homing? He was 10 years old when we adopted him.
He's has been a house cat for the last few months so I doubt he caught it in the time he was with us.
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they do usually test I think and then pts (well my local branch does anyway) in house tests aren't that accurate though
I'm sorry about Naboo, it must have been a big shock :hug:
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So sorry to hear this, it is sad when you only have them for a short time we have experienced this too with oldies :hug:
RIP Naboo xx
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Oh no, I'm so sorry. I was just reading your other thread. Yes, big rescues do usually check for things like that.
RIP Naboo. :RIP:
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Theres no minumum standard however i thought the rspca like cp have set things to do before homing per their own rules.
Im sorry you didnt have long with your boy :hug: :hug:
When your ready id suggest reading catchats guide to FIV, it will put straight a few things you have probably been told
http://www.catchat.org/fiv.html (http://www.catchat.org/fiv.html)
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Thank you for the link, thats explained a lot.
If we knew that he had FIV we wouldn't have re-homed him due to his age.
They're not sure if the anemia was caused by the FIV but because of it he wouldn't have recovered from it.
He had terrible teeth problems aswell when we re-homed him & wasn't fully vaccinated. I just feel they shouldn't be re-homing animals who are clearly ill but didn't tell us of his health problems, we didn't realise until we got him home that his teeth were is such terrible condition, which was probably caused by the FIV.
He also wasn't neutered when they took him in so being a stray had a higher chance of having FIV.
We will definately be re-homing another cat but will be more aware of this when we do.
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Sorry to hear the sad news! :hug:
RIP Naboo x
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Really sorry to hear this :hug:
Please kick up a stink with whoever you rehomed him from......although, at least he had 5 wondeful months with you xx
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If he had been neutered before he came to you, I see no reason why he would have feline aids :shify:
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I'm so sorry to hear this, and I'm surprised that they didn't blood test for FIV, which is fairly routine for un-neutered males :hug:
They certainly should have not have homed without prior warning of any of his health issues, such as teeth, so when you're feeling up to it, I would certainly speak to the rescue, and also make sure they pay any outstanding vet bills, as clearly this could have been avoided if they had been up-front with you (its certainly worth a try).
On the flip side, if Naboo had tested positve for FIV, they would almost certainly have put him to sleep there and then, and although his life with you was cut short due to this illness, he had 5 wonderful months with you, in a loving hime, which he wouldn't otherwise have had :hug: :hug:
RIP Naboo, safe and sound on the Bridge now, go find my FIV bridge boy Max xxx
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If he had been neutered before he came to you, I see no reason why he would have feline aids :shify:
Any cat with outdoor access can have it hun, so they normally blood test most strays, but particularly entire males as they are more likely to fight I think, and therefore be carriers.
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If he had been neutered before he came to you, I see no reason why he would have feline aids :shify:
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I am so sorry to hear this sad news and I would taj=ke it up with the rescue too :hug: :hug:
RIP Naboo play hard on the Bridge
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When we adopted Olly G from the RSPCA I was given the choice if I wanted him tested - I did because I had other cats in the house and I had to pay for the tests. He was only with us for 11 months and died from a stroke when he was only 15 months old
I am so sorry to hear about Naboo - RIP sweetheart - play hard at the Bridge xxx
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I know it can happen to any cat but think the rspca have re-homed an obviously ill cat without warning us which is irresponsible & unfair. My son who's too young to understand has gone to bed asking for the cat, crying & is distraught. he did have a lovely 5months with us but we would have loved to have adopted a family cat who was with us longer.
I'll ring the rspca tomorrow to ask what their policy is on this. I definately will not be getting a cat from there again.
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I think it unfair on you all hun, I would be defo be ringing them tomorrow! >:( :( :hug:
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I'm so sorry to be reading this post.
RIP Naboo, play hard at the bridge sweetheart.
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I have spoken to them this morning, they have said that they don't routinely test for it but most strays should be tested if they have any signs of FIV. Obviously they couldn't be bothered to check this one which has now cost us over 350 in vets fees for a very ill cat who probably should not have been re-homed at all and has obviously upset us all with him passing on after him settling into the family so well.
The manager is ringing me back tomorrow to talk about it as she's not there today.
I have spoken to the national rspca helpline & they don't have a blanket policy, it's up to each centre to set the rules.
I have spoken to a few other local cat re-homing centres today who have said all their stray cats are tested even if they appear to be healthy so I feel very let down by the rspca.
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To balance this, I think that if a cat looks healthy, many rescues do not test cos its a waste of valuable resources and presumably Naboo looked healthy when you took him.
He has probably had 5 months of a lovely life with you which he would not have had if he was tested.
Its sad when anything happens to a best friend but it must also be remembered even a healthy cat can sudenly get ill and the message as you now know is to insure as soon as one gets a cat. :hug: :hug:
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I am actually against rescues testing every stray. I do think if they are unwell they should be done though.
Its a difficult decision really
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To balance this, I think that if a cat looks healthy, many rescues do not test cos its a waste of valuable resources and presumably Naboo looked healthy when you took him.
I am actually against rescues testing every stray. I do think if they are unwell they should be done though.
Its a difficult decision really
I dont agree with blanket testing either. Many fiv cats look the picture of health so many will 'fall through the net'
I know in grief you look for someone to blame but i dont think its really fair to say its their fault, you never know how long you have with a cat, even youngsters get taken by sudden illness. They could test all the cats and some may be false negative, his test could have thrown a false positive or he could have even caught it in the 5 months with you :(
As someone else said he had 5 wonderful months being loved by you which wouldnt have happened otherwise so in his eyes he left for the bridge with everything he always wanted - love and family
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Just a thought but wouldn't it be really expensive to test each cat for everything aswell before homing - especially for smaller rescues? :shy:
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but he wasn't healthy when we got him, but we obviously didn't realise when we got him home.
He had terrible diarrhea, hadn't been eating , had terrible teeth & gums which stank & he had to have teeth removed after we brought him home, they hadn't given him all his vaccinations like they're supposed to before re-homing. They didn't tell us any of this when we chose him.
They had only had him for 2weeks before they re-homed him with us & they knew nothing about his background as he was found as a stray. I was told this morning that they test for FIV if there are signs, the bad gums, the fact he was a stray, 10years old & un-neutered probably should have been enough for them to test or at least mention that it's a possibility that he could have FIV before we took him home.
In hindsight, having never adopted a cat before we should have chosen a different cat.
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I do think in your case he should have been tested because he was unwell
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Ahh right, me not thinking along the lines of catching it through fighting but having sex, was not thinking about blood transfer when fighting :doh:
Did the rescue say they had tested him? If they had and knew he had it before rehoming they should of told you. :Crazy: If they did and he didn't have it, I can only suggest he picked it up after being rehomed :(
RIP Little one xxx
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If a cat is unwell it would be better to sort this out first, I agree.
In hindsight, having never adopted a cat before we should have chosen a different cat.
the good thing is that Naboo received lots of love from you which he may never have had and I'm sure he would have thanked you for that :hug:
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Reading your last post...
The rescue shouldn't of rehomed a cat in such a poor state, and I do think most rescues do test against FIV etc, they should of with the fact that he had been a stray for all those years, and not neutered :Crazy:
Which rescue was it?
Im sure most rescues like to keep a good name for themselves but this doesn't seem the case with this one :shify:
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Which rescue was it?
Ahem *RSPCA* nuff said! :tired: :Crazy:
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Well I spoke to the manager at the rspca today who said that when we adopted Naboo in May they didn't routinely test for FIV due to the cost.
Since July they've started testing on strays as they have a cheaper test.
She asked me to send them the vets bills & she will see if they are able to help out. She didn't say either way whether she agree'd that he should have been re-homed or not.
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Maybe she wouldn't say because it would be like admitting she knew he shouldn't have been rehomed :(
I do feel that as a goodwill gesture they should settle some if not all of your veterinary bills though.
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Well I spoke to the manager at the rspca today who said that when we adopted Naboo in May they didn't routinely test for FIV due to the cost.
Since July they've started testing on strays as they have a cheaper test.
She asked me to send them the vets bills & she will see if they are able to help out. She didn't say either way whether she agree'd that he should have been re-homed or not.
Now I find that even more worrying
A CHEAPER TEST ?? will that mean even more false positives ??
I hope they help you with the vets bill x
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:crossed: That they pay this bill for you! :hug: :hug:
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I am sorry to hear this, I am very surprised that the RSPCA would home a cat like that, my branch test every single cat, check every cat in case of needing dental work - but they will pts any FIV+ cat and if they have sore gums, do a calici test and pts any cat positive for that too. Fingers crossed they offer to pay some of the bill. RIP Naboo
I would certainly go to a different rescue this time, what area do you live in? We might be able to help.
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do a calici test and pts any cat positive for that too.
YOU ARE JOKING SURELY ???????
My Issey was a Calici carrier, so is Lala
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My brothers Maine Coon was too...that is just barbaric!
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I think its thought Calici virus leads to FIP, although not 100% sure. Its saying corona leads to FIP.
I wouldn't be suprised if my Ollie had it.
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Interesting read.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus
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Corona and calici are two different things
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Tosker was tested for FIV and FeLV at my request, and the vet added Coronavirus test at his own recommendation, but did not mention Calici test
it is the corona virus which can mutate into FIP
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Unfortunately, I am not, and am incredibly glad that Sam didn't go through that branch, as he is probably a calici carrier. They also open up every single female to see if they have been spayed or not, I dont know any other rescue that does that.
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I think its thought Calici virus leads to FIP, although not 100% sure. Its saying corona leads to FIP.
I wouldn't be suprised if my Ollie had it.
Corona and Calici are 2 different things
Coronavirus is connected to FIP....Calici is TOTALLY different.
Unfortunately, I am not, and am incredibly glad that Sam didn't go through that branch, as he is probably a calici carrier. They also open up every single female to see if they have been spayed or not, I dont know any other rescue that does that.
Flipping eck Desley i am so shocked
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So was I Michelle, another reason I wont support them. The last RSPCA people to come to my door were greeted with Sam in my arms as proof why i wont support them, his mouth doesn't bother him at all, and I think the only thing that he would want more in his life is more cuddles, I have never come across a cat like him for demanding being picked up and held.
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LIke Michelle I am shocked Desley and so pleased you have Sam :hug:
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I'm saddened by that :(