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Title: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on October 08, 2009, 11:36:37 AM
Saw this today and thought it may be of interest:

http://www.novartis.com/newsroom/news/2009-10-01-onsior.shtml
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Christine (Blip) on October 08, 2009, 12:57:23 PM
Very interesting, Sam, although I see it's not recommended for chronic inflammatory conditions in cats.  It's good to know that there is research in this area though.
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Rosella moggy on October 08, 2009, 16:15:52 PM
Thanks Sam.  This is very interesting as it doesn't seem to have as serious an effect on the kidneys as normal NSAIDs i.e. metacam? 

I'm useless when it comes to medical terminology Christine (I sort of build a brick wall).  What sort of conditions would the following phrase relate to?

"For the treatment of acute pain and inflammation associated with musculo-skeletal disorders in cats"

so is the literature saying it's only for acute rather than chronic conditions?
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Christine (Blip) on October 08, 2009, 16:36:47 PM
I'm useless when it comes to medical terminology Christine (I sort of build a brick wall).  What sort of conditions would the following phrase relate to?

"For the treatment of acute pain and inflammation associated with musculo-skeletal disorders in cats"

I didn't see that bit - where did you see it, Rosella?   I saw this bit: 'Onsior is for relief of chronic pain such as osteoarthritis in dogs or acute pain in cats' (my emphasis).
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Gillian Harvey on October 08, 2009, 17:39:21 PM
Theres a bit more about it on the Noah site here http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/Novartis_Animal_Health_UK_Ltd/Onsior_6_mg_flavoured_tablets_for_Cats/-46115.html (I always go straight to the contraindications, LOL! ) seems like theres the usual contras - safety not known in animals under 2.5kg,  or in pregnant or nursing mums. Plus use in cats with heart, kidney or liver probs, needs careful monitoring. Sounds as though its specifically for pain relief after ops etc, like with Metacam? Comes in injection and tablet form apparently.
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Millys Mum on October 08, 2009, 19:29:22 PM
A 'palatable' tablet that cant be split or broken  :innocent: i prefer metacam for awkward cats much easier to shoot that in than a pill, ill cats are always more picky with food  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on October 08, 2009, 19:34:26 PM
How many times have you seen palatable tablet on the package and kitty doesnt agree  :shify: :shify:

It may have been licenced but the real trials are only just beginning me thinks!
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Rosella moggy on October 08, 2009, 20:33:10 PM
I'm useless when it comes to medical terminology Christine (I sort of build a brick wall).  What sort of conditions would the following phrase relate to?
"For the treatment of acute pain and inflammation associated with musculo-skeletal disorders in cats"
I didn't see that bit - where did you see it, Rosella?   

http://www.onsior.com/docs/Onsior_Cat_Package_Leaflet.pdf

Point 4 on page 1
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Christine (Blip) on October 08, 2009, 20:45:32 PM
I'm useless when it comes to medical terminology Christine (I sort of build a brick wall).  What sort of conditions would the following phrase relate to?
"For the treatment of acute pain and inflammation associated with musculo-skeletal disorders in cats"
I didn't see that bit - where did you see it, Rosella?   

http://www.onsior.com/docs/Onsior_Cat_Package_Leaflet.pdf

Point 4 on page 1

 :thanks: for the reference, Rosella.  I read on and found 'This product reduced pain and inflammation associated with musculoskeletal disorders in clinical trials in cats.'

I shall ask our vet about this forthwith.
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Millys Mum on October 08, 2009, 20:49:57 PM
Its only for use up to 6 days so must be more potent?
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Rosella moggy on October 08, 2009, 22:42:12 PM
So that's why they say acute as opposed to chronic?   
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Christine (Blip) on October 09, 2009, 09:41:39 AM
Ah yes, it will be.  No good for Blip's spondylitis, then.  Still, I'm sure it will help many others.
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Mark on October 09, 2009, 19:36:01 PM
I'm also concerned about the "common" (1 - 10 in 100) cats having diarrhoea or vomiting with it. I know Clapton has been given Metacam several times since being diagnosed CRF with no ill effects so I would rather he had something well tested if pain relief was needed.
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Rosella moggy on October 10, 2009, 09:24:38 AM
Our Tom used to throw up alot with Metacam Mark which I think is a very common reaction to it esp with a cat that isn't eating properly. 

I think we would need to compare the contra indications.  There will presumably be occasions where pain relief in tablet form will be a good thing for a cat with kidney probs.  I agree however that liquid form is so much easier is give.

I don't think the cat version of Metacam has actually been around a very long time so I wouldn't be inclined to dismiss the new one.  Just something to ask vet about if the need arises.
Title: Re: New Pain relief for Cats & Dogs
Post by: Millys Mum on October 10, 2009, 19:30:53 PM
Gastro probs with metacam are very common so not much difference there between the two.

I don't think the cat version of Metacam has actually been around a very long time so I wouldn't be inclined to dismiss the new one.
Cat metacam is just a weaker version of dog metacam so its a much more tried/tested/trusted drug, has been used some time