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Title: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 03, 2009, 19:25:01 PM
Arthur is an pale ginger and white, elderly gentleman, not sure of the reason for him coming into rescue, forgot to ask, but he has some old injuries and was very thin. He has put on weight, but his belly does seem a bit odd to me, I am not 100% convinced the weight gain is a good thing, especially as he has drunk quite a bit of water in his first couple of hours here. I am fostering him to give him some TLC and we shall see if he can be rehomed, although he looks funny due to his old injuries, i think they make him look very appealing. I will upload pics tomorrow as he just wants fusses tonight, bless him.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: bonnielass on October 03, 2009, 19:27:30 PM
I love the oldies they are so grateful for the love and attention , i do hope he will be okay and cant wait for piccs :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 03, 2009, 19:30:53 PM
They are, and I dont really like the thought of them in a rescue environment - while ours have lots of sofa's and stuff, it isn't as good as a true home environment and he will have more one on one here - Sam did see him in the carrier and was fine with him, so once we have seen how he goes over the next week or so, I will start integrating him.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 03, 2009, 19:36:42 PM
Look forward to seeing Arthur! is he the oldie you mentioned before Desley?
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 03, 2009, 19:40:13 PM
He is Jane - I just hope I am wrong with his health, but his tum does remind me of MAbels (and I was drawn to him as I just thought of Mabel when I looked at him, even though he is darker than her), and hers was cancer. He has also drank a lot of water.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 03, 2009, 19:42:49 PM
I hope that he is ok, maybe his tummy is a bit distended if he's started to eat more and until he starts to actually put some weight, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 03, 2009, 19:44:13 PM
Fingers crossed that is all - he was seen by a vet on Mon for his second vacc and a weigh, but it feels funny to me - although I thought that with Molly once, and the vet said it was just the way she was putting weight on - his is incredibly large though, will try and get a pic.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 03, 2009, 20:21:50 PM
Aw bless you for taking him on Des, dont like the sound of his tum though but hope its not cancer!  :Luv2: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 04, 2009, 10:59:21 AM
WEll, his tum isn't quite as bad after having 2 poos overnight, but he has drunk more and wee'd a lot, so I wouldnt be surprised if there wasn't some kind of kidney or liver issues going on, bless him. He is on sensitivity for a couple of days as his poos aren't great, but they do look a lot like Mabel's did.

Pics
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 04, 2009, 11:07:11 AM
 :Luv2: what a gorgeous old fella he is! I wonder how old he is?
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 04, 2009, 11:10:11 AM
He is - the vet has seen him twice and hasn't volunteered an age, just 'very'!! I wouldnt have said anything less than 15 though, unless his appearances are deceiving - I haven't properly looked in his mouth though.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 04, 2009, 11:14:13 AM
I think he looks about 17/18ish to me - maybe more but it is always hard to tell especially when they aren't too well, he's gorgeous anyway whatever age he is.  I am glad his tummy is a bit better today, is he friendly?
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 04, 2009, 11:19:30 AM
You could be right Jane - he is very friendly, which is lovely.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 04, 2009, 11:37:57 AM
I also noticed something else this morning that a quick search says can be related to kidney issues - teeth grinding - I have never known a cat do that. His breath isn't great either.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 04, 2009, 11:38:25 AM
Bless him  :)

I wonder whether his teeth are troubling him?
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 04, 2009, 12:00:42 PM
Could be something as simple as that - will have to speak to the rescue re bloods.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on October 04, 2009, 12:32:00 PM
What a lovely old chap and hope he has nothing serious wrong  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 04, 2009, 13:14:07 PM
Aw Des he is lovely....Thank you and your big heart for giving this chap a home environment and love which he does look in desperate need of!  :Luv2: :hug: :hug:

Fingers crossed that his health issues can be controlled with meds!  ;)
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Millys Mum on October 04, 2009, 18:16:14 PM
What a hunk!  :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: pappilon on October 04, 2009, 18:32:54 PM
Awww, he is lovely. :Luv2: :Luv2:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Jasmine on October 04, 2009, 18:35:55 PM
Bless... but he does look a bit cross in that first photo :rofl:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 04, 2009, 19:38:05 PM
he prob was cross cos he wanted a fuss and I wanted to take a pic!! He hasn't drank much today, so hopefully it was just the stress of the journey - his tum isn't as bad and while his fur is greasy, it doesn't look as bad.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 06, 2009, 07:55:55 AM
Arthur's drinking is still worrying (at least half a bowl a day, sometimes closer to 3/4), - but normal poo!! His breath is awful, but I dont think he could stand an anaesthetic. I let him come downstairs last night, as he is likely going to live his life out here (and he is fully vacc'd), and there was a bit of hissing from him and Sam, but I did have them both on the settee for a while. He has an incredibly large appetite too, he wanted to eat everything in sight!!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 06, 2009, 07:58:47 AM
Were his bloods ok? I have to say though my 2 oldies probably drink that amount.  He sounds lovely, hope he's ok .
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 06, 2009, 08:04:51 AM
He hasn't had bloods yet, will be speaking to the rescue, and also seeing if their vet will give him some Antirobe for his mouth (he was seen by them to be vacc'd last week). Zia drinks a lot of water, but not that much in one day - and on Sunday, he literally drank half a bowl in 1 and a quarter hours, then spent another 5 minutes sat at the bowl constantly drinking - he hasnt' had any dry food while he has been here. He is such a content cat (although not quite as happy in the bathroom now!!).
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Gill (sneakiefeline) on October 06, 2009, 11:55:05 AM
My birmans drink a lot but not that much.

I suppose he could have been dehydrated from his past and is catching up big time.........we can always hope  :shify:

Lots of love to Arthur cos he deserves some quality time  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 06, 2009, 11:59:12 AM
If he's startng to gain weight his body may need extra fluid too, hopefully it will settle down x
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 06, 2009, 13:41:32 PM
Id be worried about the drinking alot especially when he is eating so much wet also!  :shify: Have you been having the heating on yet Des? Just wondering if he may feel a tad hot compaired to the rescue which would not of felt as cosy Im sure!  ;)

Hope he manages to get his drinking under control cos he does sound a lovely gent who deserves some of your tlc!  :Luv2: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: moira on October 06, 2009, 14:40:03 PM
Aw, he's lovely, another Truman. I do hope you have lots and lots of snuggle times to come.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: clarenmax on October 06, 2009, 14:49:25 PM
He's a babe, I hope the drinking is not significant to any health issues, and are just a settling in and settling down issue  :Luv2:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 07, 2009, 08:05:54 AM
He hasn't had any dry full stop. He does have an incredible appetite though, he is very much like Norman in that he is constantly begging for food. Fortunately we are fine for wet food at the moment so he can have that bit more. I Did think about the heating BM, it would explain Sun, as I had just had a bath, and the heating is only on for about half an hour, except Mon when I was ill and couldnt get warm, so it was on for a couple of hours then, but he had already drank half a bowl of water.

He now doesn't like being in the bathroom after having some time out, and had me up at 3.30. Him and Sam are so so, I did have them both on the settee again last night, although there is a bit of hissing from both of them, but nothing too nasty. Main issue is both want my knee!!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 07, 2009, 10:29:35 AM
Bless them both wanting on your knee and having a hissing spat over you!  :Luv2: Im sure they will learn that you will make time for them all!  :Luv2:



But for the meantime your gonna have to sit with your legs wider apart!  :innocent: :evillaugh: Yeah I know I will  :slap: myself!  :-[ :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: clarenmax on October 07, 2009, 10:52:51 AM
Awwww, but nice that your knee is in demand  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 07, 2009, 11:07:35 AM
 :evillaugh: Baz is right, a knee each! when we adopted Smokey and Timmy I  suffered experienced the same problem :Luv2:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 08, 2009, 10:46:55 AM
Thinking of the gorgeous old gent!  :Luv2:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: pappilon on October 08, 2009, 12:55:45 PM
Thinking of the gorgeous old gent!  :Luv2:
Me too.x
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Baggy on October 08, 2009, 20:46:49 PM
He looks like a lovely gentle chap, hope his bloods don't show up any nasties.

Re: the tooth grinding, Dinah's teeth/jaw sounded very grindy over her last couple of weeks, but only when she was eating.  If his mouth is really uncomfortable he might just be chomping a bit.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 09, 2009, 07:53:04 AM
We are going to do bloods on him, either this weekend or next. his fur is better and his poos are better, but still drinks a lot of water. He also has some mats on his tummy, but trying to deal with those is fun, I got some out last night and will just have to keep doing little bits. He seems to be really enjoying being in a house, and I hope he will settle down with food soon - he was a stray, so he might not. The boys do seem to have slight issues over who gets to sit on my knee though, they wont share, but will sit on the settee at the same time. He also has a really funny way of eating, he likes to hook it out with his paw and eat most of it off his paw, but then ends up with food all over the floor!! I suspect he will be living his life out here, although not discussed it with the rescue yet.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 09, 2009, 08:20:37 AM
 :) I bet he's really happy to be with you Desley - and hope that the bloods are ok
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: clarenmax on October 09, 2009, 08:56:46 AM
Aw bless him, he sounds lovely  :Luv2:

Fingers crossed for the bloods when you do them.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 09, 2009, 12:04:31 PM
Aw good luck with his blood results when he has them, like I said I really hope nothing sinister is hiding!  :wish:

So Arthur prefers to eat with his paw....His name does certainly suit!  :Luv2: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: AliCat on October 09, 2009, 22:07:52 PM
Fingers crossed for the blood work.  :Luv:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 10, 2009, 14:29:14 PM
Thanks, i hope I am wrong, and the other thing it could be is diabetes, which I can't deal with, so if that were the case, he would have to go back to the rescue, so hoping it isn't that. He had an extra long time out of the bathroom last night and is frantically trying again, but Sam has to have some time of his own.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Liz on October 10, 2009, 16:48:29 PM
Des we had 37 cats and a feral with diabetes its not so hard we did the injections twice a day and he had 2 glorious years of packed action

You make it sound like his death knell - its not it is a controlable health issue - most folks would have given up on a feral diabetic your boy sounds confused but sweet
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Jasmine on October 10, 2009, 18:16:55 PM
the other thing it could be is diabetes...
I was thinking that, but keeping quiet!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Millys Mum on October 10, 2009, 18:36:45 PM
Liz i think desley means it from a personal side not a death card for him, not everyone can commit to a diabetic cat or even face sticking a needle in one, i know my mum couldnt  :shy:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 10, 2009, 19:31:38 PM
I actually took it to mean that Desley is out through the day so may not be around to monitor him.

Although, if it was handling him it is understandable that some people may find it difficult  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 11, 2009, 01:44:43 AM
OH and myself have talked about this in the past as he used to inject his mum's RIP rottie for diabetes.... I said I would not be able to and he said he would!

Im sure what ever reason Des knows best!  :hug: :hug:

Really hope its something else Des when his bloods are done!  ;)
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 11, 2009, 10:46:44 AM
ACtually, it is for personal reasons - although not convinced he would allow it, judging by trying to groom him this week, and it woudlnt be a death knell, as he would go to the rescue. We all have our own levels of what we can deal with, and not everyone can deal with oldies, and most of the cats here wouldnt' have left a rescue otherwise. I dread anything happening to Molly, she might not be feral, but after nearly 4 years, everything is still her terms only and even stroking is debatable - she hissed at me yesterday just for putting my hand out, and she hides for hours after every vet visit.

I fell asleep on teh sofa last night so he had longer out of his room, and once the door was open, he was fine, I found him on his bed in front of the radiator - he clearly hasn't found the kitchen radiator!! No real issues wiht him and Sam last night, but he was really begging for food - I Was eating a rhubarb crumble!! hiding food from him isn't an option, he has got two lots of food from worktops this week, so he can jump well for his age!!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Liz on October 11, 2009, 16:26:23 PM
Sorry for being a bit sharp but perhaps if you had said for personal reasons my post may not have been taken out of context

I worked full time as did OH and touching a feral can be fun as well but if they are food driven it is an easy thing to do - I also hate needles but can put any injection in a cat now as well as the dogs just hate human needles with avengence

Even going to the shelter he won't be monitored overnight perhaps we were lucky with Tiger we never had a hypo and he was out maurading from 7.10am to when we got home - he was so good he even managed to be home everynight by his evening injection
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Cat_Crazy on October 11, 2009, 16:47:42 PM
Aww, Arthur looks like a real sweetheart  :Luv2: hope his blood test comes back ok!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 11, 2009, 20:49:34 PM
Sorry, Liz, but I dont feel I have to justify myself, my reasons shouldnt matter. AT the end of the day, we dont even know what is wrong with him yet.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Liz on October 11, 2009, 22:37:04 PM
Des as you say he hasn't been diagnosed yet but this thread has a lot of what may be wrong perhaps when you find out what if anything is wrong it will make things clearer

I also didn't ask for any personal reasons its just in all this time you have had most things and my thought was that perhaps this one would be insurmountable for you as I don't think you have ever given a cat back
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 12, 2009, 04:24:11 AM
Just popping in to give Arthur a big  :hug: :hug: :hug: and you too!  ;)
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 13, 2009, 07:43:50 AM
unfortunately Liz, diabetes would be insurmountable for me, so lets just hope it isn't that. He is booked in for bloods on Sat morning and I should be able to sit and wait for them - going to be a long few days though!! His tum isn't great though, but then he is eating any food he can find, rather than just the renal I have him on - someone even chewed through the bread bag and nibbled the bread and I can't see Sam doing it!!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 13, 2009, 11:01:52 AM
Sounds like it would be hard monitoring his food Des, what a little devil he is!  :evillaugh:

Im sending out tons of positive vibes for his bloods to be something simple to treat....Bless him and you for taking on yet another oldie!  :Luv2: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: JackSpratt on October 14, 2009, 10:03:43 AM
Hope Arthur is doing well.

With regards to the "diabetes debate".....having had my Little Junkie (Toby) share our lives I have to say although we wouldn't have been without him, it doesn't mean I assume other peoples lives enable them to be able to do the same thing.

Diabetes is definitely not a death sentence for a cat, but it is a condition that requires a lot of work. I know Desley not only works full time and fosters, but also does regular fundraisers for her rescue.

I never thought I'd be able to inject a cat either, MM. But because Toby had been with me from kittenhood, I couldn't comprehend the alternative. He was an utter sweetheart, and I never once regretted him coming into my family even though he didn't seem to have much luck healthwise. :Luv:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 15, 2009, 13:21:38 PM
Thinking of you both and hoping all is well!  ;) :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: moira on October 15, 2009, 13:35:30 PM
Sending positive vibes
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 16, 2009, 07:59:00 AM
Thanks everyone - still having poo issues, as he is such a scavenger and despite his age, will jump on anything to get into food!! Think it is the biscuits that are upsetting him at the mo though - not that he is allowed any of course, but has found some!!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: JackSpratt on October 16, 2009, 09:22:27 AM
They always want what they aren't supposed to have, don't they? And they generally figure out a sneaky way to get it.....hope the tests go OK. It's tomorrow, isn't it?
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 16, 2009, 12:11:06 PM
Aw bless him.... Hope the results go well and he can get his huge appetite under control!  :Luv2: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 17, 2009, 07:02:22 AM
He sounds to have a quite an appetite bless him.  When is he having bloods done?
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 17, 2009, 19:53:00 PM
WEll, despite the vet being convinced they would show something, they were fine, his globulin was high, and his TP was towards the high end of normal, but vet said neither was a concern - his mouth is worse than I Thought though, he has a severe ulcer on his tongue, which the vet suspects is his reason for drinking so much. He is now on 7 days of ab's and see how we go. Vet wouldnt like to guess at his age though. He has been given Stomogyl (sp?) and i cant' crush or break them, and have to give him 2 once a day, which is silly. I have only managed one of his first two, will have to try and trick him with ham for the next 7 days. Vet says it will help his diarrhea though
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 17, 2009, 20:08:33 PM
That's great news :) hope that the abs help his mouth and good luck getting them down him!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 17, 2009, 20:18:38 PM
It is, I honestly didn't expect it, I was sat in the waiting room feeling sick, as I expected bad news. Just hope the ab's work on his mouth, but he is still eating a lot. STill debating whether to give him some dry or not - he had some at the rescue, but i have never intentionally given him any due to his drinking, but I wonder if it will curb his appetite a bit, and help him get through the day - they get fed at lunch time at the rescue.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 17, 2009, 20:35:44 PM
You could try it, I think I would as and he may like really enjoy a bit of dry and... it might fill him up a bit more.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 18, 2009, 02:43:23 AM
So pleased his bloods are fine!  :wow: Finger's crossed that the abs will sort his tongue out.....I think your food may be yummier than the rescue's Des...He's on one massive party!  :Luv2: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 18, 2009, 11:49:23 AM
i was still toying with the dry food last night, so didn't, but will do today. I dont think it is that the food is any better, as he has spent most of his two weeks on prescription food - he actually wolfs renal food!!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 18, 2009, 12:57:12 PM
I was just thinking Desley, our Smokey used to drink quite alot, I wouldn't say he ate much dry food and his bloods were ok for his age too, he was about Arthur's age. 
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 18, 2009, 14:10:22 PM
Must be just a personal liking for him, I have different water and wet/dry food drinkers/eater's here and to study with ref to what they eat, drink...you would be quite surprised with the outcome!  :Crazy:

Im being lazy here but was he a stray before being rescued?  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 18, 2009, 20:01:55 PM
WEll, glad I saw the results for myself, as he has drank even more water today!! He has had some dry food though, but drank most of the water before then. Managed to get his tabs down him in some ham (unlike Sam, who took 3 lots to get it down, then I gave him an extra two pieces after, and still found it in his food bowl!!).
BM, yes, he was a stray, but he had spent a few weeks at the rescue and his scavenging had stopped there, I wonder if because he was in a room with other cats, he was getting more food than here. Hopefully the dry will help, now I know his organs can cope with it.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 19, 2009, 05:04:56 AM
Yes Im sure the dry will help fill him up more!  :Luv2: :hug:

My Teddie, who I took on a couple of years ago and is almost 18 lived on dry prior to coming here, its amazing but she has normal reading's for her organs....I think dry becomes more of an issue when the cat is suffering kidney probs!?  ;)
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 19, 2009, 07:47:29 AM
Zia's the same, she was on dry only before she came, and we were told she had to stay on it cos of liver issues, but her bloods earlier in the year showed her to be in perfect health for a 19.5yo.

He has eaten the dry, but his tum is a bit unsettled!!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: clarenmax on October 19, 2009, 09:19:28 AM
Just catching up with the weekends threads Desley, and so pleased that Arthur's bloods all came back fine  :Luv2:

Hope the tablets work on his tongue ulcer  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 19, 2009, 13:45:35 PM
Probably will just take a while for him to get used to the dry....Hope his tum settles soon!  :Luv: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 20, 2009, 07:54:10 AM
WEll, I am glad i had his bloods done as he is currently drinking even more!! STill scavenging too, he has twigged where Sam's food lives now, so every night he gets told off. I am wondering how I am going to integrate him if he does end up living his life out here, as Sam likes to keep going back to his food, and he already has weight issues.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 20, 2009, 08:45:07 AM
Hopefully he will settle down Desley,  I know our little Byron ate - or should I say wolfed down everything in front of her at first - often bringing it straight back up.  I bet she was like this for a month initially and Schui was the same.  Also as Pepper prefers to be in the spare bedroom most of the time I feed him in there usually but he'll often go into the kitchen and eat Byron's left overs!  It is strange Arthur's thirst though, although our Smokey did drink alot and his bloods were ok, Byron does too.  Pepper's thirst has settled down since being on meds.  The only thing I can think for Arthur is extra fluid as he's eating more and his body building up - is he gaining weight?
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 20, 2009, 12:12:14 PM
Extra food left about for Arthur maybe? He prob only filled himself up at the rescue by doing this...What a little piggy!  :evillaugh: :Luv2: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 22, 2009, 18:26:56 PM
Thinking of you all!  ;) :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 24, 2009, 09:55:58 AM
WEll, we have had an interesting week with Arthur - his scavenging means I can't fully integrate him - the first thing he does is try and eat Zi's food, then runs downstairs to eat Sam's - Sam has lost weight this month, which he can't afford to do. His tongue still doesn't look great, but he isn't as smelly as he was, so his ab's have worked, and we just need to work out what to do next. Even putting extra food down doesn't really help, as he wolfs it all and still goes on the hunt for more. Apparently he settled down after a couple of weeks at the rescue, but no sign of that here - although that could be cos everyone eats different food here, so more exciting than at the rescue!! I think I am going to put him on some senior food so his over eating isn't quite as bad, as he doesn't really need to gain all that much weight.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 24, 2009, 10:14:43 AM
Glad the abs have worked on his mouth, sounds like the infection is gone although its still got the sore!  :Luv2: :hug:

That's what I was thinking before about him eating like a piggy, its the different foods he is liking!  ;)

Poor Sam losing weight, yes you will have to sort greedy boy out cos Sam needs his grub bless!  :Luv2:

Glad to see you back, thought either you had been frazzled by the Ten's machine or Arthur had gobbled you up!  :evillaugh: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 24, 2009, 10:21:19 AM
Forgot to say, he is definitely drinking more since he has been allowed some dry, he can drink pretty much a full bowl a day now, and obviously goes through a lot of litter!! He does seem to prefer Sam's litter though, he does often run downstairs and go straight to his tray!! I hope he does settle down with his eating, or he will be spending a lot of time in the bathroom!!

Sam certainly can't afford to lose weight, and 300g in a month is quite a bit.

:-) Just busy at work, and too tired to come on here.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 24, 2009, 10:38:27 AM
Arthur does make me laugh, the little scavenger him  :naughty: poor Sam, I hope you can work something out for him it's awful when they have they problems and sometimes just hard to know what to do for the best.  I was wondering where you were too Desley  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 24, 2009, 20:45:05 PM
Wish he made me laugh!!! He knows he is doing wrong though, he immediately stops when you say his name. I think he has been ill treated in the past though, as he does duck his head a bit and move away when you tell him - the other day he scarpered to the bottom of the stairs. Will be hard working this lot out I think as Sam and Zi are used to nibbling at their food throughout the day
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 24, 2009, 20:49:05 PM
He could have been Desley, he sounds endearing though  :Luv: you have got a bit of working out to do it seems
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 24, 2009, 20:52:04 PM
He is - despite a bit of head batting, i did have both boys on my knee for quite a while earlier. I sure do, the only thing I can think of at the moment is to keep Arthur isolated during the day and overnight, which isn't that great for him, but means everyone else gets to eat. I could put him in with Ellie for a bit though, as she wolfs her food too, so nothing left to eat.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Baggy on October 24, 2009, 21:40:23 PM
Poor old Arthur, what a guzzler!  Good news about his bloods but definitely a mystery about his drinking. 
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 25, 2009, 10:27:02 AM
i had a bit of a shock decision last night and if his eating everything in sight doesn't improve in a week or two, I am going to ask the rescue to put him on the rehoming page - I can't afford for the girls or Sam to lose weight, and it isn't fair on him to be cooped up in the bathroom for most of the time. The other night, he tried to eat Sam's food while Sam was still eating, and if I hadn't been there, Sam would have walked away and left his food. There isn't anywhere I can put Sam's food that he can't get too, and the girls have to eat on the bed to make sure he can't get theirs (well, Molly does anyway, but I have always fed Zi on the floor so Molly gets enough).
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 25, 2009, 12:20:20 PM
Wow! That was a shock decision but only in the way that an oldie usually stays with you forever! Its a decision that I respect and understand though as you cant watch him 24/7, he would not have a proper life being confined mainly to the bathroom plus Sam really does need his food and cannot afford this loss in weight!  :( :hug: :hug:

In the meantime you should try putting him in with Ellie and see how that goes.... Maybe that could be your solution? Finger's crossed as I know that you will have thought hard over this!  :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: JackSpratt on October 25, 2009, 12:23:43 PM
Have been following Arthurs story and have to say I completely understand that decision, Desley. I think you do a wonderful job caring for these cats and they're lucky to have you as their foster mum. ;)
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Kay and Penny on October 25, 2009, 12:27:17 PM
have you  tried Arthur with one of those automatic dispensers, Desley?

if he is stealing all available food because that is a learned behaviour in order to survive as a stray, having it constantly on tap might stop the stealing and break the habit
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 25, 2009, 12:31:07 PM
It was a shock to me too, especially as i had had them both on my knee earlier in the evening. not sure what the rescue will think though, they probably think he is here for life, and it might still happen if he settles down, but I can't risk Sam's health, 300g is a lot to lose in a month, and i can't afford for him to lose the same again next month - luckily he was at his heaviest all year last month, but even then he could have still gained some weight. Even putting him in with Ellie is still being confined, it is just a bit more space.

Trigger, i dont think that would work, as the others dont eat as quickly as him, so he would still be able to pinch food and they would continue to lose weight. I tried giving him extra last night but fed him before Sam - as soon as he heard me feeding Sam in the other room, he followed me, despite still having food in front of him.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 25, 2009, 12:38:04 PM
Was he eating his food before you fed Sam? Sometime's they treat their own food as "buried and in a safe place" like a dog would, then go round getting whatever they can knowing they still have there share!

What would he do it you fed Sam at a different time, always making sure that Arthur could fill up on his first?  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 25, 2009, 12:45:12 PM
Yeah. i also made the mistake of feeding the boys first last night (first time feeding Arthur anywhere other than shut in a room). Despite the fact he had just eaten his tea, he followed me to try and get more, so had to feed Zi on the bed, after watching him eat Sams food while Sam was still eating it. So feeding him first and waiting to feed the others once he had finished eating didn't work, and neither did leaving him eating - the alternative is shutting him in one room for every mealtime, but then Sam and Zi are slow eaters - Zi still has some breakfast left, and I fed them nearly 5 hours ago, Sam likes a little bit, and then to go out, and does that for up to 3 hours, depending on the weather.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Kay and Penny on October 25, 2009, 12:50:00 PM
that's interesting about his leaving his own food to go after Sam's, as that is what Tosker does

but with him I think he wants to be eating as part of a group rather than the food itself, as if Trigger and Tiffany continue to eat he will not muscle in on them, but just sit watching them
 
any chance Arthur would be happier eating with the others? - though you would have to remove him when he had finished eating, or remove the others' dishes
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 25, 2009, 12:55:19 PM
Interesting thought, and one of the reasons i posted on here and leaving it a week before speaking to the rescue, in case someone can think of a suggestion, as i am sure the rescue would be happier him staying here. I shall certainly try it tonight, although I do have cats eating in different rooms!! I shall make him and Sam eat in the kitchen, with the same food down and see what happens. Not sure how I will feed the girls, whether to do them first or not.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on October 25, 2009, 13:16:36 PM
That's a good point, he may also be thinking they have something different so want to try it.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Millys Mum on October 25, 2009, 18:46:58 PM
Hope you can find a happy medium!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 25, 2009, 18:51:56 PM
Well, that wasn't a success at all - Sam was so wary of Arthur that he barely ate his food, so I had to separate them just so Sam would eat. I took him in the cat room with me earlier, and Ellie was more reserved around him, so not sure about leaving those two alone for any length of time - I couldn't read his miaows when he sniffed her tail and he did bat her round the head their first meeting.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Kay and Penny on October 25, 2009, 19:09:55 PM
Trigger and Tiffany won't eat either if Tosker is too close to them, but if I have them in the same room but a good distance between they will start to eat

Tosker invariably leaves his food and goes towards them, but when they move away he goes back to his own food, and I usually end up with them all eating from their own dishes
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 26, 2009, 08:14:26 AM
I did move his food to a different part of the kitchen, but he was still wary. A bit later, i gave them both some biscuits, gave Arthur his in the kitchen, then Sam his in the front room, and Arthur ignored his biscuits to sit in the middle of the front room gazing towards where Sam eats!! They were on different biscuits, but they also eat out of different bowls, so I wonder if it sounded different to him. He did pinch part of Sam's food while I was washing up though - Sam wears a collar and bell, so i can tell when it is him eating.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 26, 2009, 16:49:05 PM
Cats can definitely be weird creature's when they want, some of mine get fed in the front room, majority in the kitchen and one in the bedroom... I swear if I allowed them all to eat in the front room there would not be one bit left!  :shocked:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on October 27, 2009, 08:23:11 AM
WEll, did an experiment last night - gave them identical amounts of the same biscuits in identical bowls put down at the same time (separate rooms though), Arthur wolfed all his and then tried to nose Sam out of the way to get at his, and he had had extra wet food for his tea, so I don't think integrating will ever be an option, Sam doesn't eat quick enough to get enough before he would be pushed out of the way. Arthur also hated being cooped up last night and spent a fair bit of the night scratching the bathroom door. I dont know how easy he is going to be to rehome though, and the rescue are full.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on October 27, 2009, 11:06:26 AM
Try putting more in Arthur's bowl, he may just manage to fill himself up...I would love to know is he ever sick with the amount and speed he eats?  :shocked: :hug: :hug:

Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 01, 2009, 09:41:22 AM
Keep forgetting to update this - nope, he is never sick and it doesn't seem to matter how much you give him, he will still demand more - he does get loose motions due to pinching different foods though.

We had a really good night on Wed, he didn't pinch anything and waited patiently while I gave Sam his supper biscuits, but he has pinched food since then, even when I am just nipping into the kitchen to get a drink, he will be on the windowsill eating Sam's. This has highlighted how slowly Sam eats, as Arthur isn't allowed out till at least 2 hours after I have fed everyone, so I am now wondering if Sam is such a slow eater normally, or if his mouth is bothering him a bit.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 01, 2009, 16:10:07 PM
Two hours should be enough time for Sam to eat his food, so yes I would be wondering about his mouth bless!  :shify:

Now Arthur who eats for England....That's very strange that he can eat and eat and not even vomit!  :shify: What's his weight like Des? Im imagining a right porker?  :hug:

ps.. I know you have a tight work schedule at the mo, so update's when you have time okay!  ;) :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 01, 2009, 20:49:07 PM
Got my neighbour to hold him down for me, not 100% happy, so going to put him on 5 days worth of Antirobe and see how he goes. He even took all day to drink his cat milk today!! I think part of the reason he takes so long is that he does like to go out, so his food is down for at least an hour in the morning before he bothers with it, and then he pretends he has forgotten, so I have to show him.

Very strange, thinking about it!! He has gained weight, although still looks a tad thin - again, I have new pics but no time to resize.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on November 01, 2009, 21:32:47 PM
Hope that the Antirobe help, (I got some for Pepper the other day too) just email me any photos and I'll resize them for you  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 02, 2009, 16:37:34 PM
My finger's are crossed that the abs work on his mouth!  :Luv2: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 03, 2009, 08:29:27 AM
He left some of his food yesterday (whcih is unusual, and typical after I have just bought 4 boxes!!), but I had also bought some different food, and he ate more of that, so maybe he was just fed up of the same food.

My friend gave Arthur a play session with Da Bird last night, so I got some pics, and she also groomed him, but he hates both his legs being touched, I suspect he is a bit arthritic, as he does sometimes look it when he walks. Typically I dont have any arthritis stuff in though.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on November 03, 2009, 14:21:31 PM
 :Luv2: Arthur photos
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 03, 2009, 14:23:43 PM
Oh how yummy is Arthur!  :wow:

What a lovely if greedy man he is....looks so relaxed and not fazed out by anything type of guy!  :Luv2: :hug: :hug:

I see Sam in the background too!  :Luv2:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: bonnielass on November 04, 2009, 07:47:58 AM
Desley my old man Eddie has a little bit of cod liver oil in his dinner and has done so for almost 2 months now and i find that helps him with his arthritis just as good as his synoquin does  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 04, 2009, 07:52:32 AM
I know BM, such a shame he is such a nuisance with other cats food, I was on the phone last night, so he got to Sams food before I could stop him, and Sam had already not eaten most of his breakfast. He was a real nuisance after I went to bed too, just scratching at the bathroom door, but I couldnt let him out cos I needed Sam to be able to eat the food that was down.

Thanks BL, but fish liver oil isnt that great for cats, they need the body oil. i do have some Omega 3 fish oil capsules, might try them, and I did find a few sachets of Noractive this morning, unfortunately I found it after I had fed him.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 04, 2009, 15:58:15 PM
So when you are around he does not bother with Sam's food, only when you leave the room?  :sneaky:  :Crazy:

Its really gonna be hard to monitor this and Im sure you feel awful him scratching at the door!  :hug: :hug: :hug:

He would seriously have a field day here!  :shocked: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 05, 2009, 07:47:36 AM
He will try when I am there, he just normally gets noticed - last night he tried to take advantage again, he doesn't realise I can tell the difference between him eating and Sam eating even when I have my back to the bowl!! I put him in with Ellie last night, she is a bit more reluctant to come out when he is there, as he is straight up for a fuss, but it might be good her seeing him climbing on my knee. Will be easier for my neighbours too, as he doesn't dash out of the cat room as quickly as the bathroom!! Will speak to the rescue this week, but suspect they might want him back for rehoming.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on November 05, 2009, 12:19:58 PM
Just caught up with this thread, and I have to say Arthur is absolutely gorgeous.   ;D  Desley, from looking at his first photos to now, you've wrought such a difference!  Lovely to see he's a bit norty, although understand why that can be exasperating!  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 05, 2009, 22:45:50 PM
I'd see how he goes being in with Ellie for now, she will come round Im sure....Just a little wary of the sudden change methinks!  ;) :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 06, 2009, 08:17:32 AM
She is still very wary, but fortunately eats as quickly as him!! He was funny this morning, I tried to stroke them both at the same time, but that wasn't good enough, he then moved from his hand to the one I was stroking Ellie with, so she moved away, he is a very domineering cat. He will sniff her and then miaow, so she tends to walk away. Will see what the rescue says tomorrow.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on November 06, 2009, 08:29:26 AM
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he is a very domineering cat.

Could be how he managed to survive what look to have been quite nasty injuries, bless him.   :cat rub: Probably better as an only cat.  Is he a neutered tom, Desley?  Not sure if you've said and I missed that.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on November 06, 2009, 08:36:40 AM
Arthur sounds to be doing really well and he looks much better too, I think it sounds like he would be ok to be put for rehoming - on his own would be great but I also think with one other cat would probably work if there was someone there alot of the time to monitor him food and affection wise  :sneaky:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 06, 2009, 13:49:22 PM
Agree with Sue and Janey there! Bless him but Im sure as he is such a delightful fella, somewhere there will be a delightful forever home to match!  :Luv2: :hug: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: JackSpratt on November 06, 2009, 16:23:10 PM
What a trooper Arthur is - love the pictures, Desley. :)
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 08, 2009, 12:55:35 PM
Well, when I can find the log in details, he will be going on CatChat, but staying here for a while, unless he gets too bad and then he will go back to the rescue, but I think he will be worse there. HE has been a bit better with Ellie, he licked her tail this morning, but he is still domineering and trying to push her out of the way for a fuss, even though I Can fuss them both at the same time, that isn't good enough for him.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 09, 2009, 00:10:38 AM
Good luck Des for rehoming him through CC....When you have found the details that is! Is everything a blur today for you dear?  :evillaugh: :hug:

Hope he does do well in with Ellie though, then on to a new home....that would be just fab!  :Luv2: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on November 09, 2009, 06:40:05 AM
Well, when I can find the log in details, he will be going on CatChat, but staying here for a while, unless he gets too bad and then he will go back to the rescue, but I think he will be worse there. HE has been a bit better with Ellie, he licked her tail this morning, but he is still domineering and trying to push her out of the way for a fuss, even though I Can fuss them both at the same time, that isn't good enough for him.

I can give you the details if you can't find them.  Arthur many settle in time Desley but it sounds like he'd like he'd be good with someone around alot of the time.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 09, 2009, 08:11:33 AM
Just found it - under the keyboard!!! Clearly thought it would be safe there!! Wont get chance to put him on now, but will try tomorrow morning. I just hope someone will offer him the chance, he will be oldest cat I have rehomed.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on November 09, 2009, 08:16:42 AM
Just found it - under the keyboard!!! Clearly thought it would be safe there!! Wont get chance to put him on now, but will try tomorrow morning. I just hope someone will offer him the chance, he will be oldest cat I have rehomed.

I'm always putting things in a safe place - too safe I can't find them! I'm sure he will get a nice home Desley  :)
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 10, 2009, 02:18:52 AM
Aw! I do hope he gets some interest despite his age, he does have a huge lot of love to offer!  :Luv2: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: bonnielass on November 15, 2009, 08:12:36 AM
Just wondered how Arthur is getting on now :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 16, 2009, 14:59:20 PM
Not 100% sure (cant remember the dates) but Des may be away on a break at the mo!  ;) :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on November 16, 2009, 15:03:53 PM
As far as I know she is away :)
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 17, 2009, 08:03:00 AM
Yep, I was away this weekend - Arthur has put on a lot of weight this weekend, as he has managed to pinch quite a bit of Ellie's food. His breath is smelly again and he is really grinding his teeth, so I need to speak to the rescue today to see if we are going to put him through a dental or just keep giving ab's - not sure what I prefer really.
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on November 17, 2009, 08:34:34 AM
Hope you had a nice time  :) Good news about Arthur's weight, hopefully Ellie hasn't suffered though!  ooh the grinding - Pepper sounded like is teeth were going to fall out yesterday roll on a couple of weeks.  Don't you think Arthur will be up to a dental?
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: JackSpratt on November 17, 2009, 11:47:08 AM
He's hard work this one, isn't he?! Glad you had a good weekend away. :)
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 17, 2009, 13:31:12 PM
Yay! Glad you had a good break...Now "back to it"!  :evillaugh: :hug: :hug:

Cor Arthur must of been doing some munching! Im sure Ellie would of got her share though (hope she ate fast!).

Hope whoever gives the go ahead for his teeth to be sorted, mind you can you imagine how much he would eat without pain!  :shify: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 18, 2009, 07:49:35 AM
Spoke to the rescue last night, we are going to give him ab's first as I am very reluctant to go through a dental with him, I know his bloods were fine, but I just dont have a good feeling about it - mind you, I am still concerned there is something going on, I just can't see how a cat can drink as much as he does and not have any organ issues. He is also bothering his eye and ears, so hopefully going to have some Canaural too. He was funny on Monday night, i was crouched down fussing Elie, so he decided to jump on my back!!
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on November 18, 2009, 08:04:19 AM
Good luck with the abs, he sounds determined to get some attention  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Sue P (Paddysmum) on November 18, 2009, 08:05:58 AM
yep, fingers crossed the ab's will help, Desley.  He's got a right character, hasn't he?  :Luv:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 19, 2009, 15:29:39 PM
Oo! Ive had a cat jump on my back before, I was stood up and got the full stuck in claws!  :shocked: :hug:

Hope the abs help his mouth out Des, he is a pest but a very lovable one!  :Luv2: :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on November 19, 2009, 16:37:57 PM
Byron used to do it alot! she doesn't bother much now but when I was varnishing the skirting boards I did it with her on my shoulder  :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: **TINA** on November 19, 2009, 19:55:02 PM
Arthur is gorgeous   :Luv2: :Luv2:

so lovely he's made me cry xx
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: pappilon on November 19, 2009, 22:22:43 PM
I hope the ab's help Arthur. :hug:

He is gorgeous. :Luv: :Luv:x
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Desley (booktigger) on November 20, 2009, 07:58:44 AM
I think we are going to have to do the dental, he was really grinding his teeth last night, and then he did have a bit of blood round his mouth, so will speak to the rescue at lunch - I am going over there this weekend anyway. I still dont have a good feeling about it though
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Janeyk on November 20, 2009, 09:47:08 AM
Poor boy, his teeth sound just like Pepper's with the blood and grinding  :( good luck with what you decide  :hug:
Title: Re: Meet Arthur
Post by: Bazsmum on November 20, 2009, 15:08:39 PM
Good luck this weekend, I think he does sound like a dental is necessary here, hope he gets the thumbs up for it!  :Luv2: :hug: