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Title: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Sam (Fussy_Furball) on August 21, 2009, 13:52:54 PM
I have just read this in the Nottigham Evening Post and wanted to bring it to everyones attention, especialy if you know anyone in the Beeston area of Nottingham  >:(

http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/homenews/Cat-attacks-spark-fears-children-s-safety/article-1271714-detail/article.html
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Mark on August 21, 2009, 14:00:13 PM
I hope the dog is caught soon and PTS along with its stupid owners  >:(
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Bazsmum on August 21, 2009, 14:03:38 PM
Absolutely horrid!  >:(

I feel sorry for the dog as it was not born that way! I think the law needs changing and the owner hung!  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Leanne on August 21, 2009, 14:58:23 PM
I'm shocked at people's comments on the story, utterly shocked.
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Bazsmum on August 21, 2009, 15:03:31 PM
I'm shocked at people's comments on the story, utterly shocked.

Just had a look and they are not worth our time reading!  :censored: :hug:
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Den on August 21, 2009, 15:07:44 PM
 :( another bad article automatically linking dog animal attacks to being a risk to children  :(
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Dawn F on August 21, 2009, 15:10:29 PM
catching aids from cats???
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Bazsmum on August 21, 2009, 15:11:57 PM
catching aids from cats???

Cat poo!  :shocked: The comments just end up winding people up, a lot of "Troll" time on them!  :shify: :hug:
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Leanne on August 21, 2009, 15:21:56 PM
catching aids from cats???

Thats all us infected then isn't it  :sneaky: ;)
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Dawn F on August 21, 2009, 15:25:55 PM
I can't believe people have that much time on their hands lol - haven't they got an xbox?
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls on August 21, 2009, 15:35:29 PM
:( another bad article automatically linking dog animal attacks to being a risk to children  :(

Im sorry Den but not every dog is child friendly, not dogs like this! And if its as savage as described I wouldn't want it running round near my kids  >:(

So Im taking it this dog is left to roam by itself? any dog that came into my house like that would be killed itself!
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Den on August 21, 2009, 16:06:25 PM
Grrr I had a long reply but lost it and don't have time to write it again.

In short - a cat is very much a prey animal to dogs. Much like a rabbit. Just like cats and mice. Many dogs are either well trained or have no prey drive towards cats. Having a strong prey drive does not make a dog a risk to humans .. Just to small animals. A dog like this should NOT live with cats or be loose. But with decent ownership and training they can be rehabilitated or managed in a way to not be a risk to cats and small animals. It does not mean they have to be PTS. Dogs know the difference between animals and humans but if it attacks another dog or animal it does not mean it will do it to a human. Staffies are actually very good with children - by like any dog don't leave hem alone.
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls on August 21, 2009, 16:18:27 PM
Yes Den I know we used to have a Staffie!

I currently have a cat that will kill anything smaller than himself although he doesnt go for my rabbits which are free running. I know its all about ownership but you cant say a dog would never go for children, if the prey drive is so strong thats something that COULD happen.

Personially I would prefer to protect my children from a savage free running dog than the dog itself!

What if a child had of been in the way as the dog rushed into the house? Im sorry but the dog has shown by its behaviour that it needs to be taken out of harms way, its savage and no matter how much training it gets it wouldnt take that out of it!
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Den on August 21, 2009, 16:25:48 PM
It's going to have to be an agree to disagree sorry. I like Purrs a lot and am not willing to get into another long winded thread. I did very nearly leave after the last one. Just to show I'm learning my lesson I'm going to bow out of this discussion and I'm not going to defend my last post - even though that is what I believe.
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Liz on August 21, 2009, 18:40:05 PM
I weas bought up staffordshire bull terriers and teethed on Torque our brindle boy!

Its not the animal who starts out this way its the owners who make them like that

I for one am sick of kids in the vet wanting to stroke the dogs or check out the cat boxes and their parents thinking I should let them lift the towel on a cri=ush cage to let their darling see the nice cat - in my ferals case not bloody likely

I for one have 3 dogs I trust - they don't chase the cats all have had very badly inflicted claw marks in their faces and now treat the cats with repect - in Sunny and Sky's cases their best friends barring each other are feral cats!

I never leave kids unattended in my house as I don't trust them what ever the age not to poke, prod or steal the dogs or cats toys as a game!

It works all ways my animals are inflicted on children and as such would like folks with 2 footed to respect my first telling that your kids can't touch - some adults always know better - with my animals they don't!
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Millys Mum on August 21, 2009, 18:46:17 PM
I agree with you Den, if it was a greyhound there would be no worry about children being attacked, its all down to breed.
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: tortie on August 21, 2009, 23:38:12 PM
i too have to say its the deed not the breed, staffies are really gentle by nature, a child is more likely to get bitten by the family labrador because of the assumption its a soft gentle lump, animal to animal agression is NOT the same as animal to human agression, i myself witnessed a greyhound chase and kill a cat not that long ago, yet when caught it was very affectionate towards people i still love the breed and would have one if i didnt have chinchillas, this particular staffie obviously has  a high prey drive  and has been taught to chase by its fluffyfeet for a owner, probably for lamping


it could even be (as no one actually knows for sure) a pitt that has been taught to fight and has escaped from its pen.........yes it still goes on and no not many people can tell the difference between a pitt a staff and a american bulldog,
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: JackSpratt on August 22, 2009, 10:05:09 AM
That article is really saddening, as are the hideous comments after it.

I personally feel the dog should be caught and taken off the current incompetent "caring" for it. With a dog like a staffy there are people that have endless patience retraining or ensuring it isn't allowed near another animal unless they're in control.

RIP, poor cat.
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Janeyk on August 22, 2009, 10:11:52 AM
If the dog belongs to someone it shouldn't be left running round a park it should be kept on a lead.

So sad about the kitties  :'(
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: CC & The Pussycat Guys & Dolls on August 22, 2009, 14:33:19 PM
it could even be (as no one actually knows for sure) a pitt that has been taught to fight and has escaped from its pen.........yes it still goes on and no not many people can tell the difference between a pitt a staff and a american bulldog,

Tell us something we dont already know!

Our Staffie was actually an american pitbull but was passed off as a Staffie by the rescue, they said nobody would of wanted him other wise  :( He was a lovely dog with humans but would kill any animal he saw, he even went for horses  :Crazy:

I know in all cases its the owners to blame, but I do believe once the dog has got to a stage as in the article there is not much else that can be done and the dog should be "removed"

They have something bred into them which will never be removed  :(
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Mark on August 22, 2009, 19:15:04 PM
It actually got in Nicola's house and chased her cat and killed it, her poor cat was 17  :(

I wonder how common this is. Some people may remember Karen's beautiful Jasmine who was savaged when Karen had the door open for a second to put her shopping down.  :'(
Title: Re: Dog blamed for Cat deaths - Beeston, Nottingham
Post by: Bazsmum on August 23, 2009, 01:56:57 AM
It actually got in Nicola's house and chased her cat and killed it, her poor cat was 17  :(

I wonder how common this is. Some people may remember Karen's beautiful Jasmine who was savaged when Karen had the door open for a second to put her shopping down.  :'(

Yes, I remember!  :'( :hug: