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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: Poisonivy on August 16, 2009, 23:35:20 PM
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My cat had a bad reaction to advocate and has been really poorley for weeks, has anyone heard of this and how long it will be untill he is well. We visit the vets regularly but they cannot answer my questions as they have not dealt with this before. He is only 3 and usually very healthy
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Hello Ivy and :welcome: to Purrs
I am so sorry that your cat has had a nasty reaction to Advocate, I have not heard of it previously but I know that pets have suffered with a bad reaction to Bob Martin. Whereabouts in the world are you?
Found this, if it is any good:
http://www.advocate-spot-on.com/4363.0.html
Your cat does not look well at all, unfortunately it is late for many of our expert members but I hope as soon as they see this thread they will give you their opinion. The only thing I can suggest at the moment is to seek a second opinion from a different Vet.
Is your cat eating and drinking at the moment or not??
Good luck
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Hi and thanks for reply.
He (Spike) is eating and drinking ok, but his fur has now started to come away from his back and tail, he looks worse today, he is back in the vets on tuesday. I have had to prepare my kids today for the worst. I really dont want to give up. :'(
I have wrote to the manufacturer for advice but they have not got back to me, I just want to know of something to stop it spreading and to hopefully clear it up.
I used the advocate on my other cat (Gizmo) too he only had a small rash but cleared up within a couple of days.
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I have the information with me from a pack of Advocate, and there is no mention of a severe skin reaction as in your photo, under the section on adverse reactions
if your vet is sure the condition of your cat is the result of using Advocate, then he or she should be in immediate touch with the makers, Bayer, about it, and getting second opinions too
someone should be paying for expert opinions and treatment for your poor cat, and that should not be you
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Hi and thanx.
I am covering all costs. (not easy - Single mum / working part time) Upto over 300 so far. And a long way to go I think
But I cant not visit the vets,.
The problem with the vets is they did all blood tests but apparently there is not specific test for allergic reaction to advocate. They have done all tests and ruled out mites, flea/alergy, etc etc... They say he has had a very bad reaction to something. I said he doesnt go out and I have not used anything different for him. I asked them if it could be the Advocate (they gave him) and mentioned the fur and skin irritation where it was put, and they said Yes it could be and advised me not to use any flea treatment in the future. I am going again on tuesday and will demand more answers.
I have read and re-read the advocate leaflet, also searched the internet. I thought if I could find something then I would find a cure for him.
I really dont know what else to do.
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Hi and thanks for reply.
I have had to prepare my kids today for the worst. I really dont want to give up. :'(
I hope that you are not going to lose Spike because of a flea treatment - was Spike ill before you used Advocate or not?
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Hi Yvonne
No he was perfectly healthy. This is a pic of him and his brother a month or so before.
He has never been ill in anyway, this has just got worse each day since the treatment. He is worse today than on the pic below. (as it has now spread)
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:welcome: to Purrs PoisonIvy, sorry it's in such worrying circumstances :hug:
That first photo looks awful, poor Spike :care: If your vets have ruled out the most common allergies and Spike lives in a controlled indoor environment then I would be pushing them to pursue this with the manufacturers, it could have come from a rogue batch or similar but in any case your vets should be making contact rather than you - especially in light of how much you have spent on vets bills so far. I would imagine the manufacturers would take much more notice when approached by a vet.
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Helen :thanks:
I will be asking them to contact them too, I think it may be the only way to find out how to treat him.
I have sent them pictures and I will ask my vets for a full list of tests and results too.
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I would be threatening to sue - especially as I think Spike needs to be referred to a specialist veterinary hospital
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I am so sorry for you that looks awful, poor Spike :hug: and you! it must be such a worry. I would think anyone can be allergic to anything but I would be pushing this.
How is he on himself, is it just external or does he seem poorly?
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Poor baby - that looks awful :'(
One of mine is allergic to Advocate and Stronghold (same chemical I think?) so I have to use Frontline. Nothing as bad as that though. He gets a rash on the application site and initially, I put it down to thearea being white. It was only when it actually bled that I stopped using it. I agree that the people at Bayer have questions to answer and need to get your cat (sorry can't see his name) well. Also they should pay your bill. I think your vet should be more proactive and be in touch with them on your behalf, either directly or through his supplier.
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haven't read the whole thread but have the vets reported it as an adverse reaction? when one of mine got sick after a vaccination the vet said they had to report it to the manufacturer even though they weren't 100% it was the cause of his illness
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So sorry to hear about poor Spike :hug: I agree with the others that it should be your vet pushing for answers from the manufacturers of Advocate if they believe that is what is causiing this terrible reaction.
I wonder if it might be worth contacting the Feline Advisory Bureau http://fabcats.org/ they have specialist vets affliated to them and they may be able to put you in touch with a skin specialist who's come across this before.
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:thanks: all for your support and advice from Spike and his family
I feel a little over my head at the moment with all this but will continue to fight for him, I will be wanting some answers soon.
He has had numerous different injections, tablets and creams so I dont actually think they know exactly how to treat him but this will be my main question tomorrow.
the original picture on this thread was taken last week. I have added todays pic. Im not sure if its me but I dont actually feel he is getting better. He is eating and drinking but he is very sleepy too.
I have spoken to other local vets who say they would have wrote to Bayer in the first instance as this is the likely cause, but my vets dont seem to want to do this, I will be speaking to the Partner tomorrow hopefully. - I agree he needs specialist treatment now. And I have stressed I am worried about the inside of him aswell.
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Poor baby :care: It's hard to say as the pics are taken from different angles but do you think his skin looks less 'angry' in todays pic?
I think if your vets have suggested that this is due to the advocate they have been quite neglectful in not contacting the manufacturers. Do you have many more pics demonstrating how the fur loss/irritation has developed which you could show to the maufacturer if need be? Obviously the main priority is getting Spike well again but if the manufacturers are at fault and would be willing to cover the vets bills or offer specialist treatment then I'm sure that would be most welcome!
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would the Feline Advisory Bureau be able to offer any advice? your vet should I think contact them immediately
they might well know of any other cases and what treatment was successful
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I've just noticed in Mark's post that it's Bayer who manufacturer it. I've had a positive experienece with them regarding a problem with one of their products - a microchip that migrated and not only did they send my vet a free second chip to insert but they also said in the letter that they sent to the vets if the migrated chip causes him any discomfort they will cover the cost of the operation to remove it which I think is very good seeing as it's just one of those things. I only rang them up to ask whether it was OK to have two chips as the receptionist at my vets was saying No so their offer was completely unprompted.
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I have just telephoned Bayer and they are contacting my vets regarding all the tests they have done. They also said they would help advise the vets on the best way forward, I have an appointment at 2o'clock tomorrow so I am hoping that tomorrow night I will know more.
Thank you all so much I am really grateful for your support
Will keep you informed :thanks:
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would the Feline Advisory Bureau be able to offer any advice? your vet should I think contact them immediately
they might well know of any other cases and what treatment was successful
Exactly what I put in my earlier post ;)
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Yes I have seen that earlier and have that up on my computer. They will be my next step if I get no luck tomorrow.
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At least that's a step in the right direction, hope his vet visit goes well tomorrow :hug: Definitely speak to the partner to get some answers as to why they weren't pushing this with Bayer :hug:
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Poor baby, so sorry you're having to deal with such a horrible reaction to Advocate :hug:
Hopefully now that Bayer are going to contact your vets, you might get some more action out of them :hug:
Give Spike a little cuddle from me :hug:
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Chin up hun. We have a real old trooper(22ish) at South Normanton Cat Rescue who's the kind of cat with all sorts wrong (hyper-t, kidneys/brain damage etc...) and nothing bothers him, he's the chirpiest cat in town.
The other week I really thought it was over for him. He's allergic to Frontline and no-one told us. He looked like he was crashing big time and I never expected to see him again.
The next week he was there, purring away to himself as always, right as rain.
What I'm saying is keep brave for Spike and as long as he's eating/drinking/comfortable as poss we can hope and pray he'll be back to normal in no time.
All the best :hug:
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I'm sure bayer will do everything to help you, experiences like Helen had with the chip can only reflect well on them
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This is such a sad story. I hope and pray it has a happy outcome for both of you! He is such a gorgeous cat! However, this is why I love forums. The advice and support are limitless as so many people have so much experience. I didn't even know there was such a place as Feline Advisory Bureau. Good Luck with your boy and with Bayer!
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I'm glad you've had a positive response from Bayer and am sure they'll do their best - it's not in their interests to do otherwise - if they are going to advise your vet they may have had other cases like this. Best of luck :hug:
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Poor little thing :( had you used it before or was it a first time? Mister Magoo reacted on the second time with stronghold, hes all white, and got a sore red patch but nothing like that.
I hope Bayer can help you
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Poor little thing :( had you used it before or was it a first time? Mister Magoo reacted on the second time with stronghold, hes all white, and got a sore red patch but nothing like that.
I hope Bayer can help you
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It was the first time I used it, the partner at the vets has since telephoned and wants to see me tomorrow instead of the usual vet. Getting little scared I in trouble for going behind there back, but at the end of the day I just want spike better.
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sounds promising to me - I reckon Spike is soon going to be getting better treatment, and not at your expense either
good luck tomorrow - remember you are the customer here :hug:
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don't worry hun, they work for you remember that
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don't worry hun, they work for you remember that
Absolutely, you pay their wages, and don't let them forget that :hug:
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You wouldn't have had to do it if they had been doing their job properly. Bayer should have been contacted on day one and that isn't your fault. We aren't talking about a little rash here :hug:
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Good luck at the Vet today :hug:
Please keep us posted.
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Oh my goodness Ive only just caught up with this thread I do hope you get some answers today from your vet, he may benefit seeing a vet with a specialist interest in allergies and skin conditions. Your vet has a professional duty to report adverse reactions such as this as do Doctors when patients react badly to prescribed drugs, as the others have said I do not think you should have to incur costs nor should you have had to be the one to report it to the manufactures.
Good luck at the vets and I'm sure once he has the right treatment he will be fine :hug:
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UPDATE........
Been to see the vets today. They are still not sure if the Advocate is the cause. They are having him for the day tomorrow for more tests, they said they need to rule out Tumours etc. Bayer have stated they will cover costs of the tests, the next step would be for him to go to liverpool to see a specialist (if they still dont know what is wrong with him)
Again I have stated today that Spike was a very healthy cat prior to this, and they have put accross they will try every step but to prepare for the fact that if we cant help him then we will have to say goodbye.
I have pointed out that I cant afford thousands on this but I will not give up either. Still none the wiser today but hope tomorrow I will again know a little more. The vet agrees it has spread down to his tail and one of his eyes is really bad, this will be looked at tomorrow too. He has a very high temperature still too. He wanted to continue flea treatment to prevent him getting any, I am not happy with this and pointed out that unless they can gaurantee he wont get worse then that is not an option at the moment. (Do you agree with this?)
They also said this could be caused by flea alergy, but they have checked him for fleas and there is none, they also said he didnt have them on the visit for his snip which was back in March. So IS HE like this due to fleas?????
??????? More confused today. Is this all fair on Spike? I bet he really hates me for putting him through this.
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Oh Sweetie, it must be so frustrating for you and so upsetting to see your baby suffering like this. I have always used Advocate on my 6 cats and have luckily never had a reaction - I really hope that the tests shed some light on what treatment is needed for Spike.
Thinking of you and sending healing vibes for Spike xxx
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flea allergy can be unpleasant and I believe it does only take one flea to bite for it to come out but until the reaction has been ruled out I wouldn't worry about all the other things mentioned - hope they get to the bottom of it quickly - I hope he dealt with you nicely as well
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:thanks: for your support
The vet was really nice, think he just as confused about this too. (Was worried about nothing I think)
Just wish could get this sorted, after looking back on notes he started this round the begining of June.
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They also said this could be caused by flea alergy, but they have checked him for fleas and there is none, they also said he didnt have them on the visit for his snip which was back in March. So IS HE like this due to fleas?????
??????? More confused today. Is this all fair on Spike? I bet he really hates me for putting him through this.
I'm sorry, but I have never seen a flea allergy look like this or to this extent in such a short space of time. I think that it was ridiculous of them even to have suggested it. Also flea allergies don't bring on a high temperature either to the best of my knowledge and I have had plenty of animals with flea allergies over the years. Have they done a skin scrape to see if perhaps he has mites or something under his skin? I am no expert - far from - and please don't be offended, but it wouldn't be a type of mange or something like that? :sorry:
As far as this being fair on Spike - maybe not, but I don't believe for a minute he hates you for putting him through anything. You have his very best interests at heart and are doing your level best to make him feel better. And who knows, he may come out of this with flying colours even though it looks grim now.
This story has really made me feel so desperately sad - both for you and your gorgeous kitty. I am really praying hard for a happy outcome.
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as Spike is only 3, and should have many happy healthy years ahead of him, I don't think you should give up on him yet, especially when there is no proper diagnosis
who knows, once the vets have found the cause, the cure may be quite simple - here's hoping :crossed:
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They are still not sure if the Advocate is the cause.
He wanted to continue flea treatment to prevent him getting any, I am not happy with this and pointed out that unless they can gaurantee he wont get worse then that is not an option at the moment. (Do you agree with this?)
So IS HE like this due to fleas?????
I agree with Nutzy, the fact that this started just after you'd used the Advocate AND that your other cat suffered a rash as well, all points to the Advocate being the cause. It is however possible that there are still fleas in the environment, carpets, skirting baords, bedding etc which could cause him to be reinfested - did you spray the house at all ? I can't see it being that really, especially as you are not seeing any signs of fleas on Spike, but just thought I'd mention it. I would not want to put any more flea treatment on him though.
Is Spike ok in himself, apart from the high temp?I know you said he was sleepy, is he still eating and drinking ok? :hug:
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I was actually going to ask if he had fleas prior to the treatment because the feral cat which my sister treated was quite bald although, the treatment caused the fur to grow back eventually. I don't know how bald he was etc because I never saw him until he'd had the treatment. I can certainly understand your concerns about re-treating now. It must be awful for you, such a worry :hug: I keep everything crossed you can to the bottom of this, poor Spike if he has a temperature he can't feel too good either :(
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If he has an allergy to the chemical in Advocate, the chances of him having an allergy to Frontline as well are very slim. Personally I would do it in case there is a (very slim) chance it was a flea allergy - naturally well away from the sore areas.
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Hi I'm sure your vet is very nice but how long do you have to wait before they send you to see a specialist after all this has been going on since June. It could be a severe reaction to fleas or it could be mites as nutzy said, have they done a skin scrapping and looked at it under the microscope, if so maybe they need to do another one. Also have they checked his bloods to make sure he is not anaemic. I feel sure there is nothing sinister going on I think he has an allergy and he needs to see a specialist to find out what it is :hug:
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Hi all and thanks for your replies.
I did spray the house and furniture (I have done since I had my first cat 12 years ago - my son reacts to bites) I only treated him with the Advocate on advised, we went to the vet for both cats to be snipped and they asked what flea treatment I use as they had no record and I said Frontline. They were nearly due for another and they sugested the Advocate as it is more powerful and they did a 'deal' on 2 lots for each cat and my dog. He has been thoroughly checked today for fleas, the vet said there was no sign of any or specks.
Last week they did blood tests, scrapes, biopsies etc and they were all clear. They did the check for mites and other things and they were all clear, I cant remember all they did just that I was shocked it cost £170
NOTE TO NUTZY - I am not offended in any way (no need to say sorry) They mentioned that mites can cause reactions and this was one of the first tests they did.
In the last month he has had:-
Duphamox - Injection
Metacam - Injection
Metacam - Oral
Convenia - Injection
Dexadreson - Injection
Ketaset - Injection
These are only the ones I have on 1 statement for a 3 weeks period. He has had more and I havent a clue what they all are.
They are having him at 9 in the morning and want to keep him there for the day. He has started to bleed down his back today but it hasn't stopped him purring and eating. Hes still a babe, and his brother is looking after him, cleaning him and cuddlin up in bed together.
Got my fingers crossed for tomorrow now.
Thanks all again for your support. Cant quite have this chat with my kids. :Crazy:
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I honestly don't know why they recommend Advocate anyway, and why there is this push to put stronger and stronger chemicals on our cats. Isnt Advocate supposed to protect against heartworm? - we don't even have heartworm in this country, its a problem in parts of Europe, but not here.
Do you know exactly what tests they are going to be doing tomorrow? Hope you get some answers soon. :hug:
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Not sure Gillian.
They mentioned x-ray, tumours, but just found a print-out from last test:- Blood sample obtained & processed to assess pets internal organs.
So looks like they tested for some internal problems last time too.
Think I need print out of all results so I know exactley what they tested for.
Think they recommend advocate because it is a multi one and not just for fleas. Was going to get more for my other cat but because they are so close and sleep together I dont think that is an option till I know what it actually is.
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Lets hope tomorrow will bring some answers and hopefully a way forward with regards the treatment needed to get him better :hug:
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They are having him at 9 in the morning and want to keep him there for the day. He has started to bleed down his back today but it hasn't stopped him purring and eating. Hes still a babe, and his brother is looking after him, cleaning him and cuddlin up in bed together.
Got my fingers crossed for tomorrow now.
Thanks all again for your support. Cant quite have this chat with my kids. :Crazy:
I am glad to hear this :hug: I think they need him in there to get to the bottom of it, I am sure that he'll be a priority.
I just hope and pray that your poor cat is soon well again xx
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I'm sure now bayer are involved they will want it sorted tdq and will keep on to your vet - good luck to spike
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Best of luck for today xxxx
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fingers crossed for Spike today
I think this sad case shows the importance of insurance - Spike would have been referred on to a specialist long ago if he had been insured
I have always thought that more important than having the bills covered, insurance secures the best treatment
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Have no advice Sorry :shy:
Just want to wish Poor Spike a speedy return to good Health
Poor wee Mannie :(
:hug: :hug: :hug:
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Hi all
Just thought id give a quick update. Picked him up (bit groggy) The x-rays are clear - i.e. no growths etc.
They have done another skin sample for mites - all clear.
More blood tests and other samples which have been sent away and should receive results in a week.
He now snuggled up happily with his brother on my sons bed. :tired:
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Did they give a steroid jab to make him more comfortable? (sorry if I missed it in an earlier post)
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glad the tests are clear
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Did they give a steroid jab to make him more comfortable? (sorry if I missed it in an earlier post)
He has had a few over the past few weeks but they are reluctant to give him anything else as they are still unsure what they are dealing with.
They have now reduced his tablets too which I think are a steroid. - I know I sound vague its just they were changing his treatment so much before this week.
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Glad he is home and comfortable and hopefully they will be able to sort it now :hug:
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Glad he's home and good to hear no tumours. :hug: So if there are still no answers from the latest blood tests and samples, what then? will they then refer to specialist? Hope you will get some answers from these tests though. So frustrating to have to wait yet another week though, I know its par for the course, but its never easy waiting for these things. :hug:
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what then? will they then refer to specialist?
Hi Gillian :thanks:
Apparently these tests should show more? what more? I dont know. But yes the next step is a specialist and the people at Bayer are keen to get this sorted quickly now, they sugested if no answers then one of their guys would like to see him.
My aunty saw him for the first time today in over 3 weeks and burst in to tears. Its like I said to her, he is still purring, meowing, giving kisses, eating and drinking. Other than the loko of him you wouldn't think there was anything wrong. I am quite hopeful, just frustrated it a slow process.
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Glad nothing untoward came out today :hug:
But yes the next step is a specialist and the people at Bayer are keen to get this sorted quickly now, they sugested if no answers then one of their guys would like to see him.
Have Bayer said anything about contributing towards your previous vets bills? I know they'd be unlikely to admit liability but you'd hope as a goodwill gesture at the very least that they would make sure you weren't at a loss financially. I know the main thing is getting Spike back to his old self and recovering but it must be a strain worrying about the vets bills side of things too :hug:
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if the current tests reveal no cause, and Bayer decide to get specialist advice themselves, they surely will pick up the bill even if Advocate gets the all clear at the end of the day
they would be so relieved should that be the case they would not care about the cost - it isn't as if Spike's owner is trying to con them, and I'm sure they won't think she is
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I know this might be a long shot, you say apart from His Appearance Spike is Being normal ??
what about Alopecia ??
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+2141&aid=195
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Bayer said they will cover the costs of the tests, and any treatment if it is due to the Advocate. Untill we can be 100% I think they are being careful what they agree to pay for.
Aparently both lots of tests have ruled out the 'usual' fur loss in cats. Unfortunately the nurse I saw today has not dealt with Spike (the vet had left) so the nurse could only go by notes. I am waitin to see the Partner again next week to get a full list of tests and results. Just so I am aware the avenue they are going down. So I am not sure on the Alopecia, I will ask them that. (but would he have had the swelling and ulcers?)
I have tonight received an email from Bayer asking if things were going quickly and that they will be in contact daily with the vet.
Today he has his eyes open more and sitting on the window sill wanting to go out. (No way is he going wondering in the garden yet) - Think this is a good sign.
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ah bless him :Luv:
I am so looking forward to seeing him one day restored to his former glory
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I am so looking forward to seeing him one day restored to his former glory
I'll second that! ;D
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That's good that Bayer are being reasonable and paying for the tests, from the details given I really don't see how it could be anything other than a reaction to the Advantage so hopefully they'll eventually cover all the costs and you can concentrate on getting Spike fighting fit and furry again :hug:
I am so looking forward to seeing him one day restored to his former glory
I'll second that! ;D
Thirded :)
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Today he has his eyes open more and sitting on the window sill wanting to go out. (No way is he going wondering in the garden yet) - Think this is a good sign.
:) it does sound more positive, I do hope that spike is starting to improve now :hug:
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Fingers crossed this is the start of his recovery :hug:
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Fingers crossed for him
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This does sound positive :)
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How is Spike today? :hug:
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Sorry not replied. Spike not doin too good these past couple of days.
Unfortunately most of his fur has not come out and his back has started to bleed so we are unable to stroke him or pick him up.
He is still eating and drinking well, but he not happy at the moment. Hoping the vets will come back to me a.s.a.p.
Will keep you posted.
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Sending positive healing vibes to darling Spike~~~~~Best of luck they can find out what is going on! :wish: :Luv: :hug:
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Oh, God! Only just seen this. :shify:
Sending healing vibes for Spike. :hug: :hug: :'(
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:( Poor Spike, I'd be back on to them if you don't hear anything tomorrow
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Positive vibes coming this way :hug: :hug:
Come on Spike :get well:
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in the meantime - have you changed anything else in the house?
washing powder, furniture spray, air freshener?
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Poor Spike, I really hope you can get some answers from the vets soon :hug:
Sending love and healing vibes for Spike xxx
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Poor baby, hope he starts to turn the corner soon :hug:
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Poor little man. Do hope you get some answers and Spike starts to feel better soon :hug: xx
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I am so sorry about Spike and do hope he starts to get better. I haven't been around for few weeks and just seen this, it was in February that my cat Phoebe was given advocate for the first time by my new vet she always had stronghold and was fine but the new vet didn't have that and used advocate on her and few days later she started shedding her fur it wasn't like she was molting it was really bad and i went back to my vet and told him about my concern but he said he thinks its stress :( Phoebe wasn't a healthy cat she had ht and was diagnosed with crf so i couldnt really say if it was the reaction to advocate or not being well but she also had this bold patch where the advocate was applied and i could see a small red spot in there, since february her coat started getting really dull and matted to the point that i had to have her shaved in March but the vet insisted the reaction from advocate is very rare! She used to have the shiniest and softest coat. I still think it was a reaction to advocate, of course it wasn't as bad as spike but the way she was loosing her fur was not normal as i said she had health problems and its hard to say what caused what, if it make sense.
I do hope they can treat Spike, poor little boy. :hug:
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in the meantime - have you changed anything else in the house?
washing powder, furniture spray, air freshener?
Thanks to all for your good vibes.
Angie, I havent changed anything in the house for years, my daughter had sensitive skin and my son is allergic to many things so I keep things as they are, I even got rid of most of my carpets 8 years ago when my son was 1.
I phoned the vets today as I feel he is getting worse and wanted to know if they had any more results back. Their skin test was clear for mites for a second time, but they have sent a sample to a lab too to get a second opinion, the other results are not yet back and they said they will chase it up. I told the vet that he was getting worse and I was asked "worse in what way" I stated he has lost more fur and looks sore, ( I now question myself if its because he isnt getting better that I think he is getting worse???) I have been told to up his dose on his tablets and they will contact me when the results are in. He also stated that he does not think it is the advocate.... He thinks he has a pollen, dust, flea or mite allergy, I have now searched the net for these for the symptoms (ie... ulcers, temperature, fur loss etc) the only one would be mange??? but the vet was supposed to have tested for this in the beginning and treated it (just in case) If it was mange why is my other cat and dog not affected???? It also says on a couple of sites that mange can kill? - its been 3 months now I think???
Gizmo is as healthy as Spike used to be!!! as you will see on the picture of his telling me off because I wont open the window >:(
I have put todays pic on of spike... If anyone who has encountered Mange or mite, pollen. flea allergy please can you let me know if this is how it looks and that the ulcers, high temperature etc are usual too. - Sorry if the pic is upsetting. I just need someone elses views too now.
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OMG poor Spike and poor you - he does indeed look to be in a lot of pain
I cannot think what else to suggest - just sending over some healing vibes for him :hug: :hug:
get well soon Spike
:get well: :S: :P: :I: :K: :E:
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Oh I'm sorry your'e still not getting any answers :hug: From what I've read sarcoptic mange is highly contagious and usually causes lots of itching, Demodectic mange not so contagious and generally no itching - but also, both are supposed to be pretty rare in cats. This all started very soon after you applied the Advocate right? I know we shouldnt speculate, but it seems too much of a coincidence for it not to be the Advocate.
To be honest I'd phone or email FAB now - they have an 'advice shop' where you can put a query to them, they do ask for a small donation, but you never know someone may have come across this before and be able to help you http://fabcats.org/advice_shop/index.php :hug:
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:'( Poor Spike it is so sad to see him like that :hug:
I have just phoned my sister to ask about her feral cat which lost fur. She said that it lost a fair bit before the Advocate and quite a few chunks after but soon it grew back.
I really think that the only thing seems to be to see a specialist, I was reading your posts out to my sister over the phone and she said that a lady at work took her dog to Liverpool - the one you mentioned and they sorted out his problem, it wasn't a skin problem though.
I so hope that someone can help Spike to get well again :hug:
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Aw bless, that does look very sore indeed! :( :hug: :hug:
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Yes, it is very Mange like in appearance BUT for it to be going on this long they would certainly find mites if they've taken the sking scrapes correctly. It would certainly have infected your other cats as well. ;)
I do also have to say sweetheart, although it must be very, very distressing to live with it also doesn't look fatal at this stage. :hug: :hug: I don't see any massive sores that would allow bacteria into the body. :sneaky:
My advise would be to have another chat with Bayer. They must be as keen as you are to find an answer and they'd love to prove it is not Advocate that caused this, so maybe it's time for their own vets to take over investigations. :sneaky:
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Ive had 2 cats in the past with allergies and neither of them looked like this. Both of them scratched like crazy and pulled the fur out .. the one who had a corn mite allergy had small ulcerated areas and the flea allergy caused a roughness of the skin ( felt a bit like sugar on the skin ) Treatment by injections of anti-immflamatories cleared them up in a very short time so I dont think this is whats causing this. Do hope the vets soon get to the bottom of this :hug:
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whatever is causing Spike's hair loss, it would seem to be a rare condition or reaction
which means, it seems to me, essential that specialist advice is sought asap - I'm sorry but I think your vets have phaffed around long enough >:(
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Found this link to various causes of allergies and symptoms... may be helpful x
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+1330+1338&aid=195
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Just read the literature on advocate online and it does say in rare cases can cause erythema (an allergic skin reaction)
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Bless his heart - I think if he was one of mine I would be demanding an appointment with a specialist - I really hope he get better soon xxx
Sending love, huggle and positive vibes for Spike xxx
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Found this link to various causes of allergies and symptoms... may be helpful x
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+1330+1338&aid=195
:thanks: to everyone for your input. After reading these I still believe he had a reaction to Advocate but I cant be sure. But after reading the above post and link ....... :thanks: loads for that. I scrolled down till I found Spikes symptoms (fur loss, itching, ulcers and crusts) - I may be jumping to conclusions but it was under the heading "Drug or injection reaction" and it says it occurs 2 weeks after giving the drug, that is when spike had an abcess on his ear that the vet said was caused by fighting, just checked my calendar, Spike had the Advocate in the first week of May, he had a small ulcer/abcess round the 18th, my friend advised salt water and cleaning it which I did, it went down and seemed to get better, but in the last week of May we had to go the Vets as it appeared double in size. since then I have been 9 or 10 times. It has just got worse over time. The Vets sugest that if it was a reaction to the Advocate then he sould be getting better as the drug wears off in his system???? :-:
I phoned the Vets back again for the 2nd time today.... I asked the lady on reception to look in Spikes notes and see if he has been treated for mites (I said I was concerned for my other cat) She said he had been treated and he has also had numerous steroids, I also asked if he had " ivermectin" which apparentley treats mites, lice etc.. Only going to give the vets this week and then going to contact Bayer again. My friend sugested I go to another vet but I dont want to start from scratch.
Thank you all for your advice and links (Gillian thanx) I have saved them to my favourites and will spend some time going through them.
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I do also have to say sweetheart, although it must be very, very distressing to live with it also doesn't look fatal at this stage. :hug: :hug: I don't see any massive sores that would allow bacteria into the body. :sneaky:
Thanx Julie
My main concern about this spreading is that he has ulcers in his eyes, one eye is really bad and the vet thinks it has affected it. I have eye drops for him but as days go on it is getting more difficult to put them in as he does not like me touching him. I dont think it is fatal and think it is just that he looks really awfull and neglected. They have done x-rays and they were clear - so that is good news :wow: Im just hoping that they can find a cure to get him back to normal. I couldn't let him live like this for ever :'(
Fingers crossed on results this week. Will be phoning the vets every day :evillaugh:
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:hug: :hug:
I wouldn't be tempted to change vets at this stage. I imagine vets are the same all over the country as they are here and one practice will never take the word of the second over anything. Some vets round here pass blame on each other all the time. A second vet will certainly want to retest for all those things again, which wastes time and the results will be the same anyway. :tired:
My next move would be, as you say, to get back to Bayer. They aren't monsters and will be keen to show they've supported you to obtain a correct diagnosis. ;)
Don't be surprised if it doesn't get worse. From the picture it doesn't look ready to recover yet. :doh: :( :hug: :hug:
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Sending a top up :hug: to Spike and his Mum, he has lots of people rooting for him :hug:
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Hi all
New info today, phoned vets twice today - apparently the results are back......
Someone eventually phoned me back, he has no internal problems but has a very high infection, apparently this is due to a severe reaction to some kind of chemical. :wow: Eventually I have some kind of answer. The vet had spoken to Bayer who are willing to cover the cost of Spike to go to Liverpool for tests. (but that may be all, it would be up to me to pay for any ongoing medication, once they know how to treat him)
So spike does not have a flea, mite or pollen allergy.
I have insisted now that they get the appointment booked a.s.a.p. as this has gone on long enough.
His steroids have been upped in the meantime. Hoping this appointment will be very soon now.
:thanks: all for your support, advice and encouragement :thanks:
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So pleased you're finally getting somewhere :hug: Are you far from the specialists in Liverpool?
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Oh at last, some answers :hug: I've been thinking about him a lot and hoping for something positive to happen.
Are they saying that the reaction is due to the Advocate? If it is the Advocate surely Bayer should pay for ongoing treatment too?
I'm so pleased you've got a sort of result and hope that appointment comes through very soon. :hug:
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So pleased you're finally getting somewhere :hug: Are you far from the specialists in Liverpool?
About 50 miles away. Car in garage tomorrow and next week so hoping it ready in time. :censored: car. Wrong time for us. :Crazy:
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Are they saying that the reaction is due to the Advocate? If it is the Advocate surely Bayer should pay for ongoing treatment too?
Thanx Gillian.
They wont commit to saying it is that, but I cant think of anything else it could be, he doesnt go out much and hasnt for months. I havent changed anything in the house i.e. cleaning, washing products.
Apparently there is no test to confirm if it is the Advocate, but they say it is a reaction to a chemical????? Dont understand really myself.
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So pleased youve finally got a diagnosis and that you dont have too long to wait for an appt
I agree with Gill ... If its the advocate I would think Bayer should pay further treatment.. Guess we could all badger them from purrs !! :sneaky:
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Brilliant ;D as I mentioned on my previous post my sister's work colleague got her dog's problem sorted out at Liverpool so lets hope they can soon sort Spike out. Hope you get the appointment soon :hug:
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Brilliant ;D as I mentioned on my previous post my sister's work colleague got her dog's problem sorted out at Liverpool so lets hope they can soon sort Spike out. Hope you get the appointment soon :hug:
:thanks: - Something to be positive about, not heard of anyone going to Liverpool untill you said, at least I can see light at the end of the tunnel now. ;D
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They should be able to see you very quickly, Lola got referred to newmarket specialists at 9am by my vet and referral clinic said would 11.30am be ok so they act on urgent cases :hug:
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Glad they have finally got to the bottom of this and best of luck for the future treatment! :Luv: :hug:
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Well that's a relief. :) :hug: :hug:
No one is going to say Advocate is responsible at this stage, least of all Bayer. If they did they would be admitting liability for any future legal action. Any vet who states Advocate is to blame is also laying themselves open to legal action from Bayer as well. Sometimes these things are resolved without anyone admitting fault. ;)
I would just throw yourself on Bayer's mercy at this point and make it clear all you want is for puss to get better and not interested in anything else. Try to stay friends with them and avoid making enemies. Even though the evidence points to Advocate being the problem and I think we all know that, Bayer are frightened you'll go to the press and that damages their business... and if you did go to the press, all help from Bayer would stop.
It sounds like a very, very sad and very, very severe reaction to me... but also pure bad luck. I've used Advocate on dozens if not hundreds of cats by now and never had a problem. I would think Bayer will use your case to help refine and improve the product to make this kind of thing an even rarer chance of happening. :hug: :hug:
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Sorry for butting in but is bayer any relation (company wise ) to Baxter? :shify:
Its okay... Found out myself! :shy: ;)
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what Julie says makes a lot of sense to me - and the fact that Spike's case is obviously very unusual is going to ensure he gets lots of care and attention from the specialist centre in Liverpool
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I do agree with Julie too. I have stated this to Bayer that the product has been a huge sucess with my dog and other cat. IF it is the advocate that Spike has had a reaction to then its just a shame that something so simple can set him off. But its something I need to know for future. Im not after reporting them because they have been good with us and I just want Spike better.
I would use Advocate on my other animals again if they think Spike wont react being near them.
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Fingers crossed they can help at Liverpool, and Bayer help with the costs.
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Ayup Spike matey, jus' wanted to say gud luck at da vets an' hopefully your experience will 'elp other puds
love Smokey xx
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Hi all
Spike is going tommorrow to the specialist in Liverpool.
Fingers crossed we get going on making him better now
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:crossed: Best of luck for tomorrow! :Luv: :hug:
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Oh good luck, hope they can find out how to treat him :hug:
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Hopefully now you will get some answers and should start to see improvement :hug: How is Spike by the way?
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Fingers and toes crossed for you :hug: xx
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Hope tomorrow is the start of Spike's recovery :hug:
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Finger crossed for Spike, i hope they can help him. :hug:
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Hopefully now you will get some answers and should start to see improvement :hug: How is Spike by the way?
Not too good at moment, think he fed up with it. Wont let us near him, he not a happy cat.... Cant blame him thought it been long enough now.
Next pic I hope is a full furry and happy puss.
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I'll settle for nice healthy scab-free skin as starters
followed by a fine coating of bum-fluff
and finished off with a full coat of glossy fur
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Lots of good wishes for Spike in Liverpool and do hope they can help him quickly :hug: :hug:
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I'll settle for nice healthy scab-free skin as starters
followed by a fine coating of bum-fluff
and finished off with a full coat of glossy fur
;D yeah sounds good to me.. His skin has gone a very light shade of pink and can see the odd tuft on his head. It spread down his back but I hopin that it now. (looks like it)
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All the best for tomorrow, here's hoping he's on the mend very soon.
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:hug: Best of luck for today xx
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Good luck
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Taken Spike today... Long day and quite good really.
They think he is a mess (obviously) They decided to keep him in for tests etc...
Well lots of information that I wont bore you all with but basically they think it is most probably the advocate, the vets are still insisting it is a (normal allergy) but the specialist said she did not agree and think the Advocate caused his problem. (just a 1 in million chance I would like to add)
I have had 2 phone calls tonight to say he is round from his anasthetic and doing good and that they are looking more at treating his eyes as they are really bad with ulcers and could be damaged, (apparently the steroid tablets he was on can cause ulcers in the eyes and thats why the eye drops have not worked!!!!!!) They also found that because it has been so long the outside of his eyes have healed half closed so is unable to open fully, they have sorted that out for him today in surgery and someone will telephone me tomorrow to let me know on the next step. I am hoping to go and get him tomorrow (if he is well enough) and hoping I can get there in time after work (hour and half away).
Oh ..... and he has new fur growing on his head ;D :wow: YEAHHHHH....
Feel loads more positive now been there.
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;D that is very good news indeed, hope that Spike can come home tomorrow and soon sorted :hug:
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I hope they can give you some definitive answers ASAP, and fingers and toes crossed that Spike can come home again tomorrow :Luv2:
If only your vets had acted a bit quicker, but there's always lots of what if's in life I guess, but I'm so pleased you're finally get some good results now :hug: xxx
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Sounds like you've turned a corner, lets hope he goes from strength to strength now :hug:
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if he's had a really rare reaction to Advocate, I suppose it would be unfair to expect your own vet to have spotted it
though I do feel they should have sought an outside opinion, and involved Bayer, much sooner
looks like the old Spike is on his way back though - you do realise regularly updates with piccies are going to be demanded? ;D ;D ;D
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if he's had a really rare reaction to Advocate, I suppose it would be unfair to expect your own vet to have spotted it
though I do feel they should have sought an outside opinion, and involved Bayer, much sooner
looks like the old Spike is on his way back though - you do realise regularly updates with piccies are going to be demanded? ;D ;D ;D
:thanks: All for your replies.
The only thing the specialist did say about the tests the vets performed were that they took samples from the incorrect areas and that the tests were repeated rather than new tests done. It was me that contacted Bayer and I am annoyed that the vets didnt even though I constantly said I thought it was the Advocate, but the vets are still saying NO to his reaction with Advocate anyway... Really annoyed with them but just glad now that Spike is going to get there eventually, lots of tears today from me and the children, I think after all this time it was a release...
As for pics ----- You will see him in his full glory I hope soon. :Luv2:
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I am so pleased they are looking after him well and hope that he is back to his former glory soon :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Delighted that things are looking brighter for Spike :hug:
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Excellent news! So glad that Spike is going to heal and that the fur is starting to grow back on his head! :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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I am glad things are looking more promising - have Bayer been told what the specialist has said?
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glad you have had some results, hope his eyes aren't too bad - do bayer know?
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Great that he is improving and hopefully Bayer will foot the bill.
I don't think there is any legal recourse as it says in their contraindications (as with most medications) there may be an allergic reaction in rare cases -unfortunately, Spike's reaction was very bad :(
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I am so pleased the hear that you have had some positive news and keeping everything crossed that Spikes recovery is quick xxx
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I think Bayer do know as the specialist said she was going to contact them. Just wish I had known all this £400 quid ago. But believe me my cats will from now be insured.....
Just had another call as Spike is staying there for a little longer. They phoned to give me the update on his eyes, sounds like he has had a lot done to them and just hope now that they will get better, apparently when they were swollen a month or so back, they turned in on themselves and the fur had been on the inside so that is why his eyes are so bad, not sure how the vets missed this, he had been seen over 8/9 times since then???
Have to wait till tomorrow to find out any more and how he is supposed to continue with treatment etc....
Just hope he can come home soon, Gizmo (his brother) is sulking BIG time, not eaten since yesterday morning. Think a little grated cheese in his food is called for. >:(
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what a difference when the experts get to work
one of the main reasons I have insurance is so that I can push for specialist treatment if necessary, as the vets around here are mainly farm orientated
a previous vet once told me that the specialist centres get cross with them if they refer someone who then can't pay, so the knowledge that there is an insurance company to stump up makes a big difference
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Hopefully Spike will soon be home and on the road to recovery. Poor Gizmo, give him a cuddle from me please :hug:
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Arent vets shocking when they dont bother to go and ask the experts......so pleased mine did when Franta was ill.
SEnding lots of good wishes for Spike and hope they can sort his eyes out, brave little man and hope he is home soon :hug: :hug:
A big cuddle to his mate Gizmo too :hug:
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Hope he is home soon :hug:
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I am keeping everything rcossed for Spike and sending the strongest possible healing vibes for the quickest healing ever seen :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Aw bless poor Spike, that must of been awful sore for his eyes with the fur growing in over! :( ....and "yes" your vet should of noticed that! >:(
Glad he is getting sorted though....please give Gizmo a hug and Im sure his bro will be home soon! :Luv: :hug:
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Fingers crossed he is now on the road to recovery, and am afraid I would be tempted to change vets once he is sorted.
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When I was at the vets today I mentioned this case to my vet and she said that all the flea preparations can course this to happen but it very rare.
I hope Spike is back home again :hug: :hug:
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:Luv2: Spike and Gizmo are back together, cuddled up and happy :hug:
Spike seems to be doing well, I can actually see his eyes now and they look good. He is back to trying to pinch my brew.... :sneaky:
The specialist has sewn his lids down to keep them open and opened them up from the sides. But he seems fine with this, keep on with regular eyedrops.
As for his fur they are not over concerned about him loosing any more as it will grow back, we are waiting for the results to some tests but are sure he had a reaction to the flea treatment. What happens now I am not sure only that I need to keep up his meds and telephone the clinic again tomorrow.
So glad he is home and looking a little better.
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so pleased he is home and hope that his eyes get better and that he will recover all fine :hug: :hug:
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Looks like Spike is finally turning a corner at long last, thanks for the update :hug:
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Glad to hear that Spike is back home with you and Gizmo :Luv:
Hopefully things will just get better now for Spike at last :hug:
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onwards and upwards now Spike ;D
and well done you PI for trusting your instincts - however good a vet is no-one knows their cat like the owner
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Fantastic news! I bet you are all so pleased to have him home and on the mend! :Luv: :hug:
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Aw bless him, bet he's so pleased to be home again :Luv2:
I so hope that he has turned a corner, fingers and toes crossed xx
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onwards and upwards now Spike ;D
Absolutely :) Looking forward to the day when you post to tell us he's healed and furry again :Luv:
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So pleased that Spike is home and it sounds as though he is on the mend at last, I cant wait to see a photo of him in all his former glory - I bet Gizmo is happy to have his brother home too xxx
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Glad things are looking up for Spike :hug:
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Glad to hear things are looking positive for him
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How's Spike been getting on over the last few days? I can't stop thinking about him :Luv2:
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How's Spike been getting on over the last few days? I can't stop thinking about him :Luv2:
Me too! :hug:
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:thanks: all for asking. Sorry not been on, had a lot of problems,
Well its one thing after another im afriad. Had a phone call this week and now Spike has MRSA, so we are changing his tablets to deal with that.
I keep asking myself..... Is all this money going to help him? and is this really fair on Spike?
:'(
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Oh Hun I am so sorry - poor Spike :hug:
How did they diagnose MRSA and is this the reason he has lost his fur etc?
Sending lots of love, huggles and healing vibes xxx
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How did they diagnose MRSA and is this the reason he has lost his fur etc?
Hi Sheryl.. thanks for reply
They found the MRSA in the scrapes they did at Liverpool, but the fur loss is still showing up as in-conclusive, meaning they cant rule out Advocate but also cant blame it.
Really dont know what to do now. Got a lot to think about..
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Oh heck! I am so shocked at this and am sending my love to both Spike and yourself..... :hug: :hug:
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Thinking of you and Spike Hun xxx :hug: :hug: :hug:
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What terrible news, I am so sorry. Sending lots of good wishes to Spike :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Oh No :( Poor baby, sending positive vibes his way and a :hug: your way
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:thanks: all for asking. Sorry not been on, had a lot of problems,
Well its one thing after another I'm afraid. Had a phone call this week and now Spike has MRSA, so we are changing his tablets to deal with that.
I keep asking myself..... Is all this money going to help him? and is this really fair on Spike?
:'(
:hug: :hug: I know it seems one thing after another but MRSA doesnt necessary mean that Spike cant be treated, lots of people carry MRSA and don't even know, it only potentially becomes a problem if they have to under go surgery, Spike could have got it after his fur loss not before. I'm sure your vet will discuss all of this with you At least now your getting some answers. I hope things start to improve soon.
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Poor Spike and poor you :hug:
Its more likely that he picked it up at the vets than anywhere else - the same way that most people get infected at hospitals?
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Poor Spike, sending over tons more best wishes for you all :hug: :hug: :hug:
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So sorry to hear about further complications, :hug: hope they can sort this out for him. How is Spike holding up? are his eyes any better now? :hug:
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oh dear I'm so sad to hear this, I do hope that things start to improve for Spike soon poor boy :( and what a worry for you :hug:
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I am sorry to hear this, and hope it is easily treated.
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Hi all
Just want to thank you all for your support and advice over these past sad times.
Unfortunately Spike has took a turn for the worse. This morning he is so weak he is unable to stand properly and his weight loss it so bad I have had to make the worse decision of my entire life. Tomorrow he will be going to a beautiful place were he will once again be lookin the best and enjoying himself.
My children do not seem to understand, but I think for Spikes sake this decision is the right one. :( :( :( :( :(
:Luv2: Spike we love u very much :Luv2: x x
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Oh no, I'm so sorry sweetie :( :hug:
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Oh no! Poor, poor boy.....I hope tonight is a special peaceful time for you all... :( :hug: :hug:
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I have to say I'm shocked and so sorry to read this i really thought he would be better by now :'( thinking of you all during this sad time :hug:
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So sorry to hear this :hug: Spike has captured many hearts :hug: You know your boy best and it seems as though he's just not strong enough to fight :(
Hope that he goes peacefully, will be thinking of you both tomorrow :hug:
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I am so sorry, Poisonivy. My thoughts are with you all.
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My thoughts are with you, keep strong :hug:
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Thats just devasting and my thoughts are with you and Spike :hug: :hug:
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I am so very sorry it has come to this, I hope you have a good night with him, and his passing is peaceful. You will be in my thoughts.
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What a terrible shame :'(
Hope you all have a peaceful evening together and will be thinking of you tomorrow :hug:
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Sorry to read he isnt doing so well, i kept hoping for the we have found a cure post. I admire all you have done for him :hug:
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I am so sorry to hear this - you are in my thoughts at this sad time. I really hoped that Spike would recover
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so sad to hear Spike will have to wait till he reaches the Bridge to be restored to his former glory
cuddle him hard tonight :hug:
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Poor Spike. Im so sorry :hug:
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:'( I am so sorry to hear this sad news, very sad.
My thoughts are with you :hug:
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Oh how desperately sad - I was so hoping for the miracle cure for Spike :hug:
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Hello all
And we thank u again for your support.
Spike decided to take his own path in the early hours, I am glad I was with him and cuddled him.
Im sorry I cant say any more. I will be back on the forum in a few days when I am not so angry and upset.
:'( :'( :'( :'(
Goonight Spike, sleep well, we love you with all our hearts xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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So, so sorry hun.....You take care and come back when you feel able! :hug: :hug: :hug:
RIP Sweet Spike....Play hard at the Bridge sweetheart x
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:'( :'( RIP Spike
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Night night Spike, safe and sound at Rainbow Bridge by now waiting for your Mum until she is ready to collect you xx
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I'm so sorry.
RIP Spike. :RIP:
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I'm so very sorry :'( Run free at the Bridge little Spike
I'm new here and it's far too late to be of help, but it probably always was :(. One of my cats Minou had a very bad reaction to Frontline (having used it ok before) she got a huge raw weeping patch that spread from between her shoulder blades up her neck and down her back. My vets had no hesitation at all in saying it was a reaction to the chemicals and told me that far worse reactions were possible - as poor Spike proved.
It took me over a year to even consider another flea treatment for her, and they suggested Advantage as less toxic. Her reaction was exactly the same. I was very very lucky that she recovered twice, I was crying as I read your thread remembering how angry and helpless I felt at what she went through from something that was supposed to help her, and thinking how at least she made it which sweet Spike didn't, I'm so sorry.
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RIP Spike, play hard at the Bridge sweetheart :hug: xxxx
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I am so sorry. :'(
RIP Spike.
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:'( so sorry :hug:
Godbless dear Spike xx
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I'm so very sorry :hug: RIP little Spike
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Im so so sorry to hear that Spike has passed over .... poor poor baby :hug: Please accept me sincere condoences.
I have been following this thread even though I had posted before now. My heart goes out to you, your family and Gizmo who has lost his brother.
RIP Spike play hard at the bridge little one ... fit and healthy again sweetheart xxxx
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OMG thats horrendous :(
So very sorry Ivy :hug:
Poor poor Spike, RIP little man now free from pain xxx
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I am so sorry and please accept condolences as poor Spike should not have had to suffer like this. You did everything you could to help him :hug: :hug: :hug:
RIP Spike you handsome man and am sure all the girls will ber waiting for you on the Bridge
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Ive followed this thread altho i havent posted and im so so sorry to hear about Spike :( so young to be taken and he shouldnt have had to endure what he did, please accept my condolences :hug: :hug:
RIP Spike to young to suffer but safe now at the bridge till you meet again :Luv:
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I am so very sorry to hear this, he went loved though, and you were with him. RIP little one
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I am so so sorry and so sad that Spike lost his battle, he fought so hard to get better and was too young - RIP Sweet Spike, Play hard at the Bridge little one xxx
Thinking of you at this sad time Hun xxx
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I am really sad to read this -
Sending You lots of love, I lost My Issey on Friday and I am sure she will look after Spike at the Bridge.
RIP Spike, no more suffering....all healed and perfect again xxx
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Such a tragedy - i am so sorry to hear about Spike.
:RIP: Spike - fit and healthy again now, together with all the other fur angels
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OMG I am so sorry and shocked to read this, I really believed he would get better :hug:
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Ivy I am so very sorry - I too hoped that Spike would get better - my heart goes out to you
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A soft full tail, exquisite eyes,
soft purring at the door,
playful swatting, frequent naps,
toys strewn across the floor.
With gentle rubs and playful purring
you made your presence known
and, knowing you were always there,
we never felt alone.
You loved it when we scratched your ears,
we swear it made you smile.
We could never stay angry with you,
we couldn’t if we tried.
The soft sweet purring now has ceased,
no gentle rubs to greet us,
just memories of a special friend
and good times are all we see.
Although we miss you dearly,
we’ll try not to feel so blue,
because we know that there’s a bridge
for special cats like you.
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RIP SPIKE
:candle: :RIP: :candle: :RIP: :candle: