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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: Desley (booktigger) on August 02, 2009, 08:39:24 AM
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Am taking 4 cats to the vets tomorrow!!
Molly was supposed to just be going for her 6 monthly check up, but she has been loose overnight and then sick on my bed just after brekkie - she is very rarely sick, hopefully it is nothing as it was just the jelly from her food, but I always worry about her when she does throw up.
Zia is just having a weigh in, as she seems to have lost weight (although she has been on a diet since coming here) - hopefully it is just that the diet has worked, although she is also loose. The only difference this weekend is that I put these two on adult food yesterday rather than Senior, maybe they can't tolerate that - they can't tolerate anything with a high meat content at the moment, hopefully that is just their tums being sensitive with age.
Sam is hopefully having his bloods (as long as i remember to starve him) - it is 6 months since he last had any, he was bang on the end of normal for hyper-t, I feel his levels have gone up, he does struggle to maintain his weight, and I am sure I can feel his thyroid. He is also very fidgety and hyper. I need to have a quick look at his gums as well, but I suspect they will be red and his eyes are a tad weepy, so if anyone has any other suggestions for calici/herpes, I would appreciate them. It is very likely that I will be adopting Sam due to changing rescue, as my vet already feels he is unhomeable (not what I wanted to do though!!).
Kizzy is going as she has pulled fur out round her tail, and has weed in the house twice this week - the first time was when I got a new doormat, so I thought she just didn't like the rubber smell, but then she weed in a different part of hte front room, so she might have a touch of cystitis. She was having a lot of Oh So Fishy though, so have stopped that and cut out dry food, so hopefully that will be all and the vet will find nothing wrong with her. It does highlight the importance of her finding a new home though, she is such a highly strung cat, and the Serene-um clearly isn't doing a lot (and I think the Feliway has ran out too).
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Loads of vibes heaing your way. :hug:
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Good luck at the vets, Desley.
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Hope all goes really well tomorrow Desley xx
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Let us know how they all get on :hug:
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Lots of positive healing vibes coming to you and hope all goes well tomorrow at the vets :hug:
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Des good luck at the vets have you tried Zylkene for Kizzy - the tablets seem to calm ferals when they are trapped - Sam is on day 4 and seems a lot calmer than when he first came home from his vets trip!
When Cissy, ragamuffin and Smudger came to us - the 3 farm ferals from last year they were on Margicol a Herbal supplement which calmed them down when they were in pens for 2 weeks during my back surgery - we stopped this after a week here and they are all fine now
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Tons of positive vibes being sent to all your gorgeous babes~~~~~~Good Luck tomorrow! :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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Sending lots of good vibes for tomorrow visit, i do hope Molly is feeling better this afternoon. :hug: :hug:
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Have fun ;D
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Hope all goes well at the vets tomorrow :hug:
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Sending 4x the usual amount of vet vibes for you!
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Sending tons of vibes hunnie x
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Tons of good luck vibes on their way xx
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Thanks - think the biggest fun is going to be getting them all in and out of the car and I am very glad my vet is only a 3 min drive away as at least 2 of them like to be vocal in the car. Molly hasn't been sick since, so she clearly just gobbled her food too quickly, silly girl.
Liz - the vet gave me Serene-um, am sure she said that in her opinion it was better than Zylkene, but will check with her again. I cant get tablets into her, so I went for the liquid Serene-um, she didn't like it at first, but is now tolerating it quite well in her food.
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Ive used Serene UM with some of my cats Des and It does work and I think its good value to, bought it from PAH! I have both pill and liquid form and when I first got Blackie I used the liguid in his food and he wolfed his food down no bother and the effect was a good calming one!
Good Luck again Hun, Im sure a few extra arms today would come in handy! :scared: ;) :hug:
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That's good to hear - I was going to get it from PAH, but it was about a £1 cheaper from VetUK. She hated the taste at first, but she is fine with it now - I dont measure it out though, I just squirt it over her food. Vet has only used Zylkene on dogs, and didn't get any results, so hasn't used it on cats yet. I debated with trying it, but if we did it at the same time as Serene-um we wouldnt know which one worked, so I will probably get some once the SErene-um has been used.
Only had 2 of them being vocal fortunately. Got quite a few looks in teh vets with teh 4 cat carriers!! A couple were quite taken with Kizzy, and she was allowing them to fuss her. She is the only one who hasn't lost weight, which isn't good as there was only her who needed to lose weight.
Zi was just weighed, as she is going for her boosters in 6 weeks, but she has lost weight.
Molly has also lost weight and was a tad dehydrated, so vet wants to see her in month and maybe redo her bloods.
I am going to increase their food and add water to it, and see if it helps in the next month.
Kizzy has stayed the same, and the vet has cleaned her anal glands as she thinks that is why her fur is going thin round her tail. Her bladder feels fine, so vet thinks she was either marking, or it is just stress as she is so highly strung. She was very clingy though, she kept clambering over my shoulder, it was really weird.
Sam was the hardest!! Vet thought he looked really well, until she started examining him - he had lost weight, his mouth is still bad again, but as it isn't affecting his eating, we aren't going to do anything for that. His heart was really racing, so we have tested his thyroid levels again, and they should be back on Wed. He is a nightmare to take bloods from though, we tried, and then had to put Emla cream on him, I went home with the other 3, and came back!!
So treats for everyone bar Kizzy tonight, and everyone bar Kizzy is going back in a months time - although I might have to do it in two trips next month.
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PHEW! Glad that jaunt is over for you! :hug:
Well apart from the weight loss it all sounds not so bad, poor Sam though...hopefully his heart was racing just cos he was scared bless him! :wish:
I think it a good idea to mix the water in with the food.... ;)
And glad Kizzy was enjoying the fuss made of her as she obviously does her food! :shocked: :Luv: :hug:
Fingers crossed for Sams bloods! :Luv: :hug:
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Glad it's over for you and you may as well kill 2 birds with one stone. Hope they manage to gain some weight and it's a problem testing things which can be raised due to anxiety when it is stressful taking them, that's why Pep had to go in for the day to make sure he was calm for his bp and heart checks. Hope Kizzy feels better now and that Sam's bloods are ok
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Yeah, better than I expected, although I was worried when the vet said we might have to redo Mol's bloods next month in case it is her kidney's or something, I am incredibly close to her and can't bear the thought of anything happening to her. Her heart was quite fast too, but she ws stressed before we even left the house, so I dont think it is anything too serious, and I think her weight loss is just due to the change to senior food, so she will get more treats. Luckily she isn't sulking too much, she was terrible when she first came, bed making day would make her refuse to talk to me for hours.
Sam's racing heart is likely due to his thyroid, he was bang on the end of normal 6 months ago, so likely hyper-t now, we will know on Wed. Kizzy is definitely an odd cat, I just hope someone will fall in love with her, she will hopefully be less stressed while I have my fostering break, but ultimately needs a home of her own with no other cats.
Thanks Jane
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Des I have given one tablet - capsule opens and sprinkled it on Indies food and in one tablet I have a calmer feral still forgetting she is a lady by using language that would make a Marine blush but great - tablet sprinkled on to food almost disolves and she ate the lot - I have used it on ferals with great results
Our vet was surprised that we used Zylkene but it does have a calming effect - I only use it for 3 weeks then the happy cat usually appears
It is really easy and has no side effects - not on any of ours and with a large number of cats we would have seen something by now
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Might give it a go when the SErene-um runs out, and if it works, i shall tell the vet she can start prescribing it!! Would be cheaper online anyway.
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Finger crossed for Sam's blood. :hug:
I am sorry that ZI and Molly have lost weight, hope more food and treats help them to put some weight back on. :hug:
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Iv tried zylkene and not had any luck with it. I was hoping dexter would benefit from it but nothing happened :innocent:
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Well, sadly I was right with Sam, he is now hyper-t. Luckily it has been caught early, his levels are only 76 (top end of normal is 55), so the vet is hopeful that a months worth of Felimazole will bring them down enough so he can have the op. Tried him on a piece of Webbox tonight with no pill in it and he wasn't interested, although am sure he has eaten it in the past. Looks like I might have to go and buy some sliced ham, even though I did a full shop today. I did find out last night though that the rescue I was fostering for is closing, so there is no longer any financial back up with him and he is uninsurable as we knew back in December that he was possible hyper-t - credit card will be geting used a lot in the next couple of months!!
Thanks Pav - I bought them some turkey steaks today, so will cook one of those for them tomorrow.
That's interesting MM, it got good reviews on CC as well, loads of people use it.
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Desley 76 is not too bad and hopefuly they can bring it down soon. Do you know if Sam is going to be on 5 mg or 2.5 mg twice daily?
I have a new box of 2.5 Felimazole which igot only a week before Boy was pts, we went for B12 injections and he was doing so well that i thought let me get all his medications since i am here eventhough he still had some left :(
If you could use them for Sam i am more than happy to send it to you tomorrow, ofcourse with some treats . :) :hug: x
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He will be on 2.5mg twice a day, once I figure out what I can hide it in!! Thank you very much for the offer Pav, I would appreciate it in case he needs a bit longer than the 50 or so i have here. I haven't been able to ring you yet as i can't find your number, if you want to pm me with it I will give you a bell.
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Thanks Desley, will pm you. :hug:
Does Sam like cheese, maybe you could try to hide it in primula or dairyle?
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Desley, as Pav says 75 isn't that bad on Pep's results it says normal between 13 and 65, I'm actually surprised they want to remove the thyroid for that. Anyway at least he's getting some treatment in case it got worse.
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Luckily he was tricked with turkey this morning, but i am not cooking a turkey steak every day for him!! I will get some sliced ham when I Am out today, as that would be easier than Primula.
The top end of my vets scale is 55 JAne, but there is a chance his is actually higher than that, as his mouth could be suppressing it. i think my vets theory is that as it has been caught so quickly, rather than putting him on a lifetime of meds and regular bloods, give him a month or so to bring his levels down and then remove it, as he isn't an easy cat to pill or to take blood from - he is also quite a young cat at 11/12, which is probably another reason for wanting to remove it, and I have always said it is the way I would go when it did tip over due to him being such a nightmare with pilling and bloods. I dont know enough about thyroid issues to know whether the fact it has taken 6 months to go from 55 to 76 means that it would take ages to get worse, or whether the fact it has now tipped over means it would get worse quicker. They have a vet who does loads of these for the RSPCA, so at least he has lots of experience.
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:evillaugh: awww, he sounds as if he enjoyed his turkey (Pepper enjoyed his last night too) I'm sure he'll enjoy some ham though aswell Desley.
I think (from when we were discussing the different levels vets use for kidney results) that ranges can vary I don't know what our vets are but it does say on Pepper's vet documents that anything between 13 and 65 is fine so maybe your vets is lower? - although, the vet did write underneath the ranges that ideally he wanted it to be about 50.
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He did, and he can eat raw pieces despite having no teeth and mouth ulcers!! They had corned beef reduced, so he had that for his meds this morning, but it is a nightmare to use. Will have to get some ham tomorrow.
Most labs do vary, i think when Norman's were done his was a different range (different vet who did his testing). There was a thread on CC that anything in the top quarter range (I think) should be checked with a Free T4 test, as they can actually be hyper-t, but not have values high enough on the normal test. I wonder if I should have pushed for htat for him before now as he was bang on the top end - the cat on CC was something like 44ish and they did a second test and the cat was indeed hyper-t.
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He did, and he can eat raw pieces despite having no teeth and mouth ulcers!! They had corned beef reduced, so he had that for his meds this morning, but it is a nightmare to use. Will have to get some ham tomorrow.
Most labs do vary, i think when Norman's were done his was a different range (different vet who did his testing). There was a thread on CC that anything in the top quarter range (I think) should be checked with a Free T4 test, as they can actually be hyper-t, but not have values high enough on the normal test. I wonder if I should have pushed for htat for him before now as he was bang on the top end - the cat on CC was something like 44ish and they did a second test and the cat was indeed hyper-t.
Possibly Desley, they also told me when mine was diagnosed that it may not have been picked up with a previous test, years before because the results can vary day to day so I would think that would also apply to animals.
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That's interesting, and does make me feel better. I felt really sorry for him last night, he was having his game of Da Bird when he suddenly yelped, and refused to play with it again (to the point of running out of the house) - it obviously hurt his poor mouth. I have swapped it for Da Mouse today and he is a lot happier with it, but I am more cautious now, as he does go for the string rather than the mouth, and i dont want it to rub against his ulcers.
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Aw bless him, Sending out more positive vibes for him~~~~~Best wishes! :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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Thanks - still able to trick him with the meds, and he hasn't stopped picking on neighbours cats unfortunately.
Molly is still looking a tad dehydrated, I have added more water to her food tonight. She seems fine in herself though
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Well, I think the meds are working with Sam, he is a lot less restless and will sleep in one place longer these days. The only problem now is that everytime the fridge door/oven/cupboard door opens he is there begging!! Here are some piccies of them taken over the past couple of days - Sam's pic isn't great, he sits like a meercat to be picked up, but wasn't for doing it when I wanted to take a pic.
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Them pics are lovely Des! :Luv2:
Glad the meds are kicking in for Sam....He reminds me of my Gigga! :wow:
Hope the extra water in Molly's food will do the trick, glad to hear she is well in herself though! ;) :hug:
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They are - if I had done Molly and Zia the other way round, they would have been in age order too!! We have a new neighbour who saw Sam yesterday and thought he was only young!! Molly does look less spikey, and she is happy - although I have cut out her dry food completely, and I haven't seen her drink any water at all the past couple of days, but then she is only eating wet food with extra water.
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I never see my Teddie (18yr old) drinking water either, she does eat 4 pouches of wet a day though and the vet said she obviously gets all her fluid needs from that! ;)
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Sam looks great going by what i had read!
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:-) My vet wasnt initially going to do his bloods - I found out one thing today that explains one of my little niggles - he wasn't over eating like most hyper-t cats, I had just put it down to being caught early (although he had started to pinch Kizzy's leftovers) - but my neighbour told me today she often finds him eating her cats biscuits (good job they have JWB, or I might have had upset tum issues - although one of them has today). He can also be found sitting with the guinea pig from time to time!!
Just taken another one of Molly looking gorgeous
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Sneaky boy :evillaugh:
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:Luv: :Luv2: lovely photos Desley
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Think I would rather him go in there to pinch food than to pick fights - one of hers sometimes comes in to pinch Sam's food too though - Sam lets him come into my house though!!
Thanks Jane
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am a bit worried about the guinea pig, Desley :scared:
how does he look at him? :shify:
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No idea, i haven't seen him, just what my neighbour told him, that Sam likes to go under the chair next to the guinea pig. One advantage is that Sam has no teeth, and I do keep his claws clipped due to picking on neighbours cats, so hopefully he couldn't do too much damage. I personally would make Sam leave the house, but that is up to my neighbours.
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I am having second thoughts on the op for him too, as I know it doesn't always work and I worry about his mouth - what if the thyroid is the only thing that is keeping him eating while his mouth is so bad, and what if treating his thyroid surgically means he really suffers with his mouth? He is a nightmare to pill though.
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that sounds like something only the vet can advise on, Desley
I must say if Trigger develops HyperT I would want the operation, as a lifetime of pilling would be a nightmare for us both
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I can see where your coming from with ref to having the op with his mouth issues.... Its really awkward, does sound as if when the thyroid is treated that his hunger will be less added with the mouth probs.... :tired:
Good luck with finding an answer to your worries Des, hope he can be sorted for his benefit and yours! :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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Trigger, that is what I thought at first, it is normally taking 3 attempts at wrapping it for him to eat it.
It is BM, and at least with meds we can reduce them to keep his appetite better - but the meds aren't a cure and long term I think they can have issues of their own. But, if we treat his thyroid and his mouth does get worse, it is constant antibiotics, and if it gets to the stage where he gets resistant to the ab's, and then can't eat, where do we go? I think i am scared of putting him through the op and him struggling with his mouth, as then I haven't really bought him a lot by putting him through an op.
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Need some more vibes for Sam please, he had an off afternoon/evening, and I am hoping it is just a one off rather than a reaction to the Felimazole. He brought up a furball, and when he came in a few hours later, he had a nasty pooey smell to his bum area, so I tried to clean him off which he hated and he then brought up 3 lots of white foamy stuff. He didn't really eat much last night and hasn't been that interested this morning. I will see how he goes today before ringing the vet.
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Poor Sam, hope he starts to feels much better today xx
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Aw, hope he's feeling much better xxx
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He is still off colour and quiet, but I am not rushing him to the vets, as the likely reason is a reaction to Felimazole, I am going to do what the vet told me to do with Tino, and make an appointment on Thurs just in case the few days off the meds haven't made much difference. I dont remember Tino acting so different - but I am hoping this could mean that his thyroid levels are a lot lower so he doesn't need the higher dose, and praying his mouth isn't involved as he is barely touching his cat milk and it is the only way i can get Antirobe and Metacam into him. I have laced his cat food with ham to get him eating some, and pulled out some turkey to cook for him tonight.
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Sending tons of positive healing vibes Sams direction, hope the man can pick up soon! :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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Sorry to hear Sam is off colour, Desley, and hope he perks up of his own accord :hug:
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He is a lot better now thanks, not eating as much, but then if his levels have come down a lot he wont need to. He is spending more time outside but he seems content
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Glad he's picked up again, and yes eating less is probably a good sign as his levels may have reduced :)
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:) Glad to hear Sam is eating a bit more again, this could happen if his thyroid hormones are stabilizing usually it takes a while for this to happen if they are quite underweight though because their body wants to eat lots to build up. Just keep an eye on him - hopefully it's just that and not the drug.
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Glad there's been an improvement and Sam seems happy. :)
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He had been a bit sick when I got home last night, so I split his meals up over the evening, hopefully it was just that he ate it a bit quick. I will wait till tomorrow before starting his meds again.
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Well I suppose not being sick overnight has been an improvement so prob just being a wolfer! Glad he has picked up and long may it continue for the lovely gent! :Luv: :hug:
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Sending get well vibes :hug:
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Thanks - I started him on one a day tonight - was the worst night for pilling him though, took about 7 goes and two tablets, so hopefully the operation is an option. He hasn't been a good boy all day really - my sis brought her 12wo JRT pup, we let him see Sam first (due to the no teeth), and I thought Sam would be the best, and he went for the pup - and we did it outside so he wouldnt see it as in his house. Poor pup was very scared. He also refused to come in all afternoon, so I had to leave him out while i do my errands, which I dont like - but my neighbour kept an eye on him.
When he was on my knee last night, you could tell he had lost weight on his back end, so he is currently on extra rations.
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Eek! Defo a nightmare piller! :shify:
I would'nt worry about him being a naughty boy with your sister's pup, cats always have the upper hand where dogs are concerned.... ;)
Hope his back end starts filling out with his extra portions! ;) :Luv: :hug:
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It's a pain isn't it, Pep has missed 3 this week! I have to take him for bloods doing this week so hoping his bloods have come down for his dental
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BM - he lived with a dog for a couple of weeks with his previous fosterer, so thought he woudl have been fine with the pup.
Thanks Jane - I need to see how he goes on this week and then ask if he should still have his bloods redone or if we need to wait a couple of weeks, as he lost nearly a weeks worth of meds.
I am going to take Molly this week (not taking all cats in one go again) - if I give her an extra meal of wet or add too much water, she gets very loose, and not sure that is normal.
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Molly is going up for another check up tonight, she does still look a tad dehydrated and not pooing as much, but she hasn't really appreciated some of the adult food I bought her. I would like her to put a bit more weight on though, she is feeling a tad boney - but then she is 16.5.
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Best of luck for Molly this evening :Luv:
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Hope all goes well for Molly's appointment tonight Desley
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Positive vibes for darling Molly's vet visit tonight Des~~~~~~Best of luck! :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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Quite a good vet visit, she has stayed the same weight, so will stock up on adult food this weekend and give her a mix of both to get her weight up, and increase her treats. She felt a bit gassy but no sinister reason why she has odd pooing issues (vet thinks it could be stress, but she thinks that about a lot of my cats issues cos of me fostering), but the vet gave me some sensitivity dry to try her on. She sulked big time when we got back though, she didn't sulk that badly last time she went!!
I asked about Sam's bloods, and he has to be on Felimazole for 3 weeks, so as long as he does't get sick in the next 3 weeks, his bloods are due the same time as Zi's boosters, which is quite handy. He still has that awful pooey smell, not sure if it is just lingering, or if it is either his meds or something that he is eating. Might change his wet food next week, and maybe stop the new treats, see if that helps. Have also given him some of the new dry food.
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:) Glad that Molly's weight hasn't fallen and hope that the change in diet helps, as you say maybe you could gradually alter Sam's and see how it goes too.
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Glad to hear the vet visit went well.... :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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Had a bad day or so with Sam, he has been off his food. I only checked his mouth at weekend, so I thought he was just being picky, as the first lot of uneaten food was something he is quite fussy with (typically after I stocked up!!) - 4 different kinds later he still hasnt' eaten much (he is eating his biscuits though) - checked his mouth again last night and it was quite bad, so put some Metacam in his cat milk and will ring for some a/bs today. IT is only the second time since his dental that I have had to give him Metacam though, and a few months since he has needed ab's - I hope it is just coincidence that it is bad enough to need meds, and not that it is the thyroid meds, which has been my fear for a while (it is two weeks tomorrow since we changed his dosage). The only consolation is that he has been gulping his chicken down so quick he hasn't noticed the tablet in it!!
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Poor Sam, hope the abs and metacam help.
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Awwww poor boy, hope his mouth is better soon when the metacam and abs kick in :Luv2:
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Aw bless him, hope the meds act quickly and its not the change in thyroid meds! ;) :Luv: :hug:
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WEll, he had eaten most of his pouch before I left for work (same kind as he had ignored the previous morning!!), but I ordered some ab's anyway - and when I went to pick them up, my vet told me she was leaving at the beginning of OCt, so i really hope we have a decent vet in her place, or I will have major issues. He has eaten relatively well since then, so not on any meds - he doesn't eat as quickly, but then he has been on meds for 2 weeks now (and even my neighbour said she has noticed he has slowed down) - so the next week and a bit is crucial, it is the longest he has been on his meds and will hopefully show if I am right with his mouth. I am now trying to build him up a bit, as he is still quite thin, and not eating much for a couple of days doesn't help. i got him some different cat milk for a treat, and it has gone down well (unlike the PAH senior milk that i opened by mistake!!).
ETA - just gone to bring him in, and he has dirty fur on the underneath of his tail, so he must be loose again - I do wish he would use the tray so i can monitor him, as I dont know how bad it is.
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Good luck with monitoring him over the next week or so Des, I hope he manages to stiffen his bottom end up as that wont help with the weight!
....And I do hope you manage to get a decent vet in place of your old one.... Good vets that you can rely on are getting very sparse these days! :tired:
Thinking of you all! :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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Cheers - his tail smells awful, even after being wiped down, i am tempted to ask her to shave that part, but as he goes out every day, it might be too cold for him - he isn't longhaired, but he does have quite thick fur on his tail and trousers.
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Cheers - his tail smells awful, even after being wiped down, i am tempted to ask her to shave that part, but as he goes out every day, it might be too cold for him - he isn't longhaired, but he does have quite thick fur on his tail and trousers.
He just wouldnt sit down so long on the concrete :rofl:
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:-) It really is an awful smell. I have just got him some new food, Just Nature from Tesco - unusual flavours (last night they had chicken with cranberry and haricot beans!!), but there is no dairy and no wheat, so if Classic helps sore mouths due to no cereals, this might hopefully do the same - the trays of Classic actually did have wheat in them, and they were a different texture. I got him some HiLife too, but they have changed the texture as well as the supermarket, and he wasn't as keen - hopefully he will prefer the PAH Purely, as I dont think that has cereals, and that should then help his mouth - and better than being on meds.
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Does he need his glands checking, they wongle :sick:
My lot love the tesco natural pouches, hoover up the carrots :shocked:
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Will ask when he goes back, which is a week on Tues. Mine have only ahd two flavours so far (well, only two of the cats are allowed it, the other two have to have senior to help their weight loss!!)
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Thanks - I have given him some breakfast, so we will only be testing his thyroid levels. He is more ravenous and demanding of food since being on the meds, which is odd.
Zia is starting to look her age now, bless her - but then she is 19.5.
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Good luck with the vet visit Des....hope the thyroid results come back okay! :Luv: :hug:
Bless Zia....19.5yrs is a brilliant age for a cat, and if she is only starting to look her age now then well done to you both! :hug:
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Lots of luck for Sam at vets today Desley xx
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Quite a positive vet visit, he has gained weight, and the vet passed comment on how well he looks. His mouth is still not great though, but yet he is demanding more food, god knows what is going on there!! Bloods should be back tomorrow and we can take it from there, but there is no replacement vet yet, so looks like we will have to have a locum. Luckily we do have 2 branches, so if I dont like the locum at mine, i can take him to the other branch, its just a further journey (but can still do it in 20 mins).
Zi has lost weight, so I can finally stop calling her a fat cat now (has taken nearly 2 years to lose it). Vet said her skin turgor wasn't great, and we know she has arthritis, but if that is all she has to worry about at 19.5, I think that is excellent.
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That sounds good Desley, I would probably think that with Sam he is still so hungry because he needs the calories yet. Shame about his mouth though but at least if he's still eating that's good. Hope the vet situation soon sorts out and you get a good one.
Glad that Zi has lost weight now she sounds to be doing really well for her age! :)
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He shouldnt be that hungry though, he has been on meds for 3 weeks, and he is getting worse, not better!! Will see what his values say. AT least I know his mouth isn't great and I have ab's in in case it does affect his eating.
She is, bless her.
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Glad Sam has put weight on but what is going on with his ravenous appetite I wonder? :shify:
Glad Zi can now be a normal sized cat and not fat cat any more....2 yrs wow! That must of been a battle, Im sure she must be used to an ammount of food now so at least the fat can keep at bay! :hug:
Good luck with Sam's results! :hug: :hug:
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He shouldnt be that hungry though, he has been on meds for 3 weeks, and he is getting worse, not better!! Will see what his values say. AT least I know his mouth isn't great and I have ab's in in case it does affect his eating.
She is, bless her.
When do you get the blood results Desley? I wouldn't be too bothered about a good appetite so long as the thyroid is coming down. Pepper is still really hungry too but I know he has gained quite a bit of weight so the meds are working but I also think me being around is helping that because he's getting at least 4 meals a day.
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His bloods came back yesterday, his values have gone from 76 to 45, so we are continuing with one tablet a day, and he doesn't need bloods doing for another 4 months (although I am tempted to keep with the monthly weigh ins) - I assume his levels will stablise, as they are back in the normal range now. Will be interesting to see if he is sick in a couple of weeks, as he was when 2 a day was too high. I didn't ask about long term contol, as my vet is leaving in a couple of weeks and the next vet might have a different opinion altogether, especially with his mouth. Still no idea of why he is so demanding with food now - he even followed me into my neighbours house last night and waited for me to leave for his tea, then I popped back and he sat on the windowsill cos he hadn't had his meds (he just thinks of the treat he gets, fortunately, and knows the rattle of the bottle means something tasty!!). I am going to pick up a wormer for him, in case that helps, but maybe he just feels better in himself, although their appetite is supposed to go the other way - he wasn't like this before diagnosis though. The other thing the vet said is that there could be something else going on - he did have dodgy liver values before, but we have just focused on his thyroid for the last two tests.
BM - Zia would love more food, but she has a nasty mum!! She is now the lightest cat, but to look at her you wouldnt think it. I dont want her to put too much more on though cos of her arthritis. The main battle with her has been the fact she doesnt really like wet food, I am lucky if I get a quarter of a pouch down her twice a day, but now Kizzy has gone, she has to have adult food, as Molly lost too much weight on senior food only.
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:) That's great news! I would think it much better to feel hungry than not and he may be building himself up now and feeling much better, did he get thin?
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He was very thin when he came in, he was 3.2 and he is now 3.8, but he has been weighed monthly and he is very up and down. I am going to mix some of the mature RC with his adult JWB as he doesn't need to gain too much more, and then get him weighed in a month - if he has continued to gain, I will put him on 3 monthly weigh ins, there isn't too much point in getting his mouth checked out, as it doesn't bother him per se - it did look swollen last night, but he was all over me for fusses (doesn't realise that I don't really apprecite his nose all over my lips!!), and is eating fine - I will try the new classic next week though, as that will be better than keep using ab's.
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aww bless him! he sounds a sweetie :Luv: hope he likes the new Classic
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He is, you can hold him in some bizarre positions and he is happy - I have never known a cat happy to be held in some of the positions I put him in, or to sit and beg like a meercat to be picked up!! He has been wormed too, he must have thought he was lucky on Fri getting 3 blobs of Primula!! I hope he does too JAne, or I might put him on a short dose of Antirobe.
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He does sound a sweetie and looks and reminds me of my Gigga as he does the meercat stance too! Antirobe should hopefully help his sore mouth bless! :Luv2: :hug:
Oh....I noticed your camera handywork today so piccies here are a must! ;)
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i actually did take a couple of pics of him, but wont get chance to post them tonight - having major issues with my rechargeable batteries - threw one lot out last night cos they wouldnt work straight from the charger, and the other set have only done a few hours today and are dead.
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Doesnt look like i have updated this - or I can't find my other thread, not sure which!! Sam was weighed this month, and has lost 300g - I knew he had lost something, but didn't think it was quite that drastic. Part of it could be with Arthur pinching his food (yesterday Arthur was eating Sam's food while Sam's head was still in the bowl!!), but I think part of it is his hyper-t - he doesn't get every single tablet, so I might have to seriously consider having the op done, as it can take 3 attempts every night, and I dot think either of us would like that for any length of time. We have locums for the rest of the year though, and dont know what will happen next year, so in a bit of a quandry. Also not sure what to do with his mouth, whether to get him tested for calici in case it is linked to his hyper-t. His next bloods aren't due until Jan.
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Think there was an update somewhere on another thread! Sorry to hear he's lost so much weight, a combination of hyper-t and a food thief would probably explain it though...
Mouths are a nightmare, aren't they :(
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It's never simple is it, I can relate re the tablets, since Pepper's thyroid has been ok he's not as greedy with his food so getting tablets into him are a struggle now - he's not taken one today! Maybe the op would be better for Sam Desley.
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Aw bless him, If you think he would do well after the op then you should go for it..... Especially with him not being good at taking his meds!
Good luck with whatever you decide! ;) :hug: :hug:
Hugs for Sam! :hug:
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It certainly isn't easy - the thought of the op scares me, and I know that if only one of his glands is affected, there is a chance that within 2 years he will need an op on the other one, but the thought of 2 years with no tableting does sound good. I know we have one vet at the other practice that does a lot of these for the RSPCA, so at least I could try and get him operated by him - I have never met him though, which is a downside. His mouth doesn't look too bad at the moment though (although he will only let me check one side of it).
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Knowing this will have a high likely of affecting his other gland and the op needing repeating, would they not consider taking them both out at once?
You should have a chat with the rescue about it.... I think it would be much less stressful for him in the long run! ;) :hug:
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I dont think they do, but could look into it.
Sam unfortunately is nothing to do with a rescue now, decision is all mine.
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I would be inclined to meet the other vet and consider the op, as you say he could have problems again some time down the line but on the otherhand like many other cats he may not
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Good advice - just wish my vet hadn't left, it would have been a lot easier. The locum we have for Nov and Dec was trained by my vet though, so I might have a chat with her, as there is Sam's mouth to consider as well.