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Cat Health & Behaviour => Health & Behaviour General => Topic started by: ems on July 23, 2009, 12:02:56 PM
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Hi Everyone,
When I was trimming Nina's nails last night I noticed that her feet seemed quite dirty (looked dark on the toes) and I presumed she had been rummaging in some boxes we are minding from my mum's loft. But when I spread her nails to cut them I noticed the very top of her nails (want to say the nail bed but not sure if that is right) are bloody. Dark though, not fresh blood. She let me touch them as much as she normally does (which isn't very much) and she is jumping fine etc.
Got Jon to have a proper look and he thinks it is from beating up the scratching post a bit to much (she is known as thunder paws because she is so heavy footed/pawed).
The gang are at the vets next week anyway for boosters and check up so will obviously mention it but just wanted to see did anyone have any theories?
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My immediate thought is "Is she an outside cat and could it be a victims blood" ? Ive found bloody paw prints when i hd outdoor cats, and it turns out theyve slaughtered something somewhere :tired:
If it hers, and she doesnt seem to be in any distress, Id keep a good eye on it (just in case) and then ask the vet to check when you see him/her
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She is indoor WC so unless she's been at the packets of ham again she has no other victims... well apart from the dog ;) :evillaugh:
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Are you sure they weren't like that before? Lu's are really dark at the top in the quick area, almost looks like dried blood.
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Hmmm I don't think so Helen, the thing is she is being very co-operative recently (probably silently plotting my downfall ;) ) so that is how I had a proper look and a rummage around.
As I say she doesn't seem bothered by it, she even let Gibson lick her paws after I had checked them which is simply unheard of :evillaugh:
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They can often get a build up of mucky crud around the top of the claw if they are not good toe washers/chewers. Try some damp cotton wool and wipe at it, if it smears off red then you know its old blood not muck
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She is indoor WC so unless she's been at the packets of ham again she has no other victims... well apart from the dog ;) :evillaugh:
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Thanks MM will give that a go. :) :thanks:
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Well we are off to the vets at 5.20 tonight.
I should have trusted my gut instinct with Nina :( I've had a feeling she hasn't been right since I had to comb a matt out of her back last week. Which isnt like her at all. And also the problem with her nails (which is definately dirt - thanks MM)
She has been loosing weight which we just put down to being really strict with her food to help her lose a few pounds but she has pretty much stopped eating this weekend. Have managed to get some food down her by hand feeding her last night. Not being sick or upset tummy.
Gave her a check over last night and one of her teeth is looking a bit sore, not on the gum though, it is dark on the tip.
She is very lethargic and wobbly, my poor baby :'(
So she is off to the vets earlier tonight, any good luck vibes would be appreciated :hug:
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Awwww, hope Nina gets on fine at the vets later on :hug: :hug:
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Poor Nina maybe her tooth is upsetting her, hope the vet can help her feel much better soon :hug:
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:luck: Nina, :get well:
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All paws and fingers crossed here , and lots of healing vibes for Nina :hug:
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Lots of good vibes for Nina. :hug: :hug:
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Positive vibes for Nina~~~~Good Luck! :Luv: :hug:
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Good luck at the vets today xxx Get better soon Nina :hug:
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Well we are home and settled :)
Our lovely vet has said she thinks she might just have a bit of a bug. She had a good feel of her tummy and said it is slightly swollen but no lumps of bumps. Her temperature was fine too.
Her teeth are fine, a bit of gingivitis but again nothing major, her front fang is just a bit discoloured at the tip.
So she has had an anti-inflammatory injection and we have some Marbocyl to give her tomorrow and Wednesday and she is getting checked again on Wednesday and having bloods done if she hasn't perked up.
But... I nipped back out once she had settled at home and got some Applaws and a tuna and prawn tin has been thoroughly demolished :evillaugh: She is currently sitting on her chair having a good wash and looking much better :)
The Purrs good luck vibes have done their trick, thanks everyone :hug:
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Hope all went well at the vets :hug: :hug:
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So glad eveything seems to be OK :hug:
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Just out of interest what has Marbocyl been given for.......its a very powerful ab that was given to Franta to try and get rid of the infection in his brain cos its one of few abs that can get into the brain.
Sending lots of good wishes for Nina :hug:
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Good news Ems - hope she continues to improve :hug:
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Just out of interest what has Marbocyl been given for.......its a very powerful ab that was given to Franta to try and get rid of the infection in his brain cos its one of few abs that can get into the brain.
Hi Gill, the vet just said Nina's tummy is swollen and feels a bit 'thick' so she has just got 2 tablets at the lowest dose to make sure she hasn't picked any infections up
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Thanks Ems :hug: ,,,,,,Franta was on daily injections.
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Am at the vets and hoping they will see Nina.
Her balance has gone this morning, can't focus and is holding her head on one side. Can't believe it she got up for breakfast and looked so much better then just fell over. Am just waiting in the car for someone to get here. Should be half 8. Poor Nina
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Fingers crossed
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Best of luck babe, hope Nina gets seen quickly :hug: :hug:
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It's a good job I took her in straight away this morning as she was worse again when we got the vets, she can't stand up now :(
They are keeping her in today and doing bloods screens today and giving me a call later, they have said it is either kidney/liver function or neurological :'(
Will update when I know more, am so upset in work now :(
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Ems hun, do you have to stay in work today? Saying that though, maybe being at work will make the time until you hear from the vets go a bit quicker and help take your mind of your worry a tiny bit :hug:
Hopefully they'll be able to work out quickly what is going on.
I feel for you hunnie, topping up with tons more positive vibes for you both :hug: xxxxx
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Oh, No!!
Sending loads of healing vibes for Nina - and lots of these for you :hug: :hug: :hug:
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:hug: hope the vet sorts her soon poor girl xx
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Ems hun, do you have to stay in work today?
Well I was half an hour late (I had left a message and explained i was going to the vets) and my boss was on the phone saying it was essential I was in to meet up with him at 12 :tired: Just what I need. :(
I knew she was feeling very poorly when she didn't serenade me all the way to the vets in the car :-[
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I take it that your boss doesnt consider cats as family >:(
To your boss ..... :tongue 3:
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:hug: Ems
I hope she's OK - poor little baby :(
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Thinking of you both Ems :hug: Have everything crossed for her :hug:
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I take it that your boss doesnt consider cats as family >:(
Obviously not, and what makes me laugh is that he has a dog so I thought he would understand. Unfortunately I think if it had been Gibson (God forbid) he might have had a different response. :'(
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:hug: :hug: Hope Nina is alright.
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Thinking of you Em, there is nothing worse than having to work when you are worrying about your furbaby xxx
Sending healing vibes for Nina - get better soon sweetheart xxx
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:hug: :hug: ems.
Thinking of you and Nina.x
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Thinking of Nina and yourself! :hug: :hug:
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Hope she is going to be ok :hug:
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LOads of good vibes being sent for Nina. :hug:
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Any news yet hun? :hug:
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Bloomin bosses who have no feelings >:(
I am so sorry she is worse and sadly I think it sounds a neuro problem cos was reading Janeyk s guide to them a couple of days ago cos of Franta.
Sending lots of love to Nina and you and hope that the vet can help her get better :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Healing vibes coming this way :hug:
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Just in jon's car on the way to pick my baby girl up. It's definately something to do with her liver function. I'll do a full post when I get home.
Thanks for the good wishes everyone :thanks:
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I do hope that they can help her and she will be pleased to get home :hug: :hug:
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More vibes coming your way :hug: :hug:
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healing vibes your way :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Thanks everyone :thanks:
Well her bloods showed increased liver enzymes and white blood cells, she has been given more antibiotics ( amoxycare 10mg) and some Hepatocyl and is going back to the vets on Friday. The vets feeling is that she doesn't want to open Nina up to have a look at her liver at present and I agree, so we will see how the tablets go and take it day by day.
She is still very dazed and confused and struggling to get about, she has also wee-ed in the carrier so is very smelly at present. Jon has just given her the medication and I think we are going to try and clean her down in a bit. Just don't want to stress her out too much so am just putting throws down for her to sleep on which are easily washed. And will have a busy few days sponging the couch down I think.
She is just having some tea (Ocean Fish Applaws) and having a cuddle with Gibson (which is v.strange!) but is purring away and trying to have a little wash
Am going to sleep in the spare room with her tonight to make sure she is ok, and am only in work for a few hours tomorrow then by coincidence am at home for nearly 2 weeks on annual leave.
Will keep you all updated, thanks for all the support, it is very much appreciated. :hug:
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Youre very welcome :hug:
Hope you have a good night - will be thinking of you
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Glad she is home with you, settled and having a munch. Hopefully the meds will soon help her feel much better, lots of gentle cuddles for Nina me thinks :hug:
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Just caught up with this thread, im glad your little girl is back home and hope she soon picks up and the meds do the trick :hug: :hug:
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So pleased she's back home, give her a gentle cuddle from me :hug:
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Pleased she is home and eating cos livers need food and I do hope she improves from ther meds :hug: :hug: :hug:
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having those two weeks off is going to help such a lot, as you will be able to concentrate on Nina without worrying about work
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So glad Nina is home and eating. :hug: :hug:
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Glad she's home :hug: Glad you're just starting your annual leave too as that will help both of you I'm sure :hug:
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Fingers crossed it is nothing too serious, I wonder if she had a reaction to the Marbocil?
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I wonder if she had a reaction to the Marbocil?
She hadn't had it Des, that's the mystery?
Had a pretty restless night, she was still holding her head to one side and walked into a few things but she has had her next dose of meds (Thanks to her dad) and is much brighter this morning ;D She even struggled when Jon was trying to pill her this morning :evillaugh:
Have installed her in the spare bedroom with some nice comfy blankets and she was purring away when I left this morning which was a relief to hear. Oh, and she has used the litter tray
God bless Gibson he keeps trying to clean her which isn't going down too well, a little cuddle she will tolerate, a cleaning not so much. :evillaugh:
Does anybody have any tips how we can get her nice and clean again from where she wee-ed on herself yesterday? Have wiped her down but she is still a bit smelly, can I just use sensitive shampoo?
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Just caught up with poor Nina's ordeal.
Wishing her a speedy recovery.... :hug:
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Does anybody have any tips how we can get her nice and clean again from where she wee-ed on herself yesterday? Have wiped her down but she is still a bit smelly, can I just use sensitive shampoo?
I don't think you can use human shampoos, fragrance free baby wipes should do the job :)
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Lots of good wishes to Nina :hug:
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More positive vibes to Nina and yourself~~~~~~ :Luv: :hug:
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Hi Everyone,
Just a little update to say that (fingers crossed) Nina seems a lot better today ;D Without getting my hopes up she just looks a bit thin and tired but she is pottering about chirruping and rolled over for a tummy rub earlier. Eating plenty and using the tray no problems. :Luv: So we will see what Catherine the vet says tomorrow evening.
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That's good news!
Give her a tummy rub from us :Luv:
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Sounding good Em! ;D
Lets just hope that Nina has turned a corner and is now on the up, best of luck for the vet tomorrow night! :Luv: :hug:
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That sounds very good ;D
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Awwww, sounds good Ems, give darling Nina a little tummy tickle from me and Maxy :Luv2: xxx
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sounds good, I hope so :hug:
keep that tum tickled
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:) Glad Nina now seems to be picking up, as Helen says baby wipes and sometimes I've drenched a cloth for things like wee.
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:thanks: everyone
:) Glad Nina now seems to be picking up, as Helen says baby wipes and sometimes I've drenched a cloth for things like wee.
Thanks Janey, used baby wipes and she is looking and feeling much better :)
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So glad tha Nina is on the mend and feeling better xxx :Luv2:
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Just to update Nina has continued to put weight back on and is feeling lots better. She is being kept on the Hepatocyl for the forseeable future. Am back at the vets on Thursday to check on her progress :)
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Great news!
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Great news Ems :hug: - We certainly need some on here :)
I found the "Nina here" thread but the links don't work any more :( - I think you can do a new one though ;)
www.talkingpets.org
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Yay! Fab news, more positive vibes being sent~~~~~ :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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Nina is doing so well and I am so pleased :hug:
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that's great ;D
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Glad she has perked up, and good luck for Thurs
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Good news :Luv:
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How have I missed this? :Crazy:
Glad to have come in at what sounds like a promising time for Nina though :hug:
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We are back at the vets this afternoon so will update again after that.
Thought you'd like to see a couple of pics of my girl now that she is feeling much better :Luv:
(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc342/emdoh46/DSC00440.jpg)
(http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc342/emdoh46/DSC00449.jpg)
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She is lovely :Luv:
hope today's vet visit goes well Ems xx
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Best of luck today babe xxxx
Nina is just :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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hope all goes well Ems
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What a pretty face she has! :Luv2:
Positive vibes for this afternoon's vet trip! :Luv: :hug: :hug:
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Great news Ems :)
I love her little Hamster chops :Luv2:
She has similar head markings to Clapton.
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Thanks everyone :)
We saw Austin today who is the principal vet (he had a scrubs type top that had a print on which was "Strays Anatomy" with cartoon cats and dogs all over it in medical gear :evillaugh: )
He had a feel of Nina's tummy and said she is still swollen, he has put her back on the amoxycare and given us a months worth of Hepotcyl. She is due back on the 3rd September for another check up.
They seem very positive about her progress but he did take me to one side and warn me that she could go downhill quickly as her condition is obviously for the most part still undiagnosed. So just keep in touch with them and bring her in to the surgery no matter how small a change in her behaviour might be.
We have also put the claim in now with Sainsburys Insurance so we should hear back from them soon :)
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:hug: :hug:
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Your vet sounds lovely and Nina is stunning ;D
I hope that she continues to do well :hug:
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Aww Nina is lovely :Luv: :Luv:
I hope she continue to do well and lots of good vibes her way. :hug:
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My poor Nina is dying, she was doing so well but then stopped eating over the last few days, made an emergency appointment for today by which time her skin has gone yellow and she is being sick with what little is in her tummy. They can feel masses on her liver now too. Basically they have recommended that we say our goodbyes as they are not sure she would even make it to Tuesday.
We are having a nice peaceful night together tonight and she is going to the vets first thing in the morning.
So many of you know this horrible feeling, I feel like my heart is breaking, she is part of me, I can't describe it any other way. I so desperately want to do the right thing. I just don't want her to suffer. My baby looks so tired, she hasn't got any fight left in her.
Am sorry I can't type anymore, thank you all so much for all the support I have had ever since I first joined Cat Chat as a first time meowmy with Nina.
xxx
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:'( :'( :'( :'(
(((((((Emma and Nina))))))))
I am so so sorry....This really is the worse part of loving them isnt it.
Sending You load sof love xxxxx
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:'( aww so sorry Ems, it's so hard when it comes to this having lost my boy earlier this year I can understand what you must be feeling. You're doing the kindest thing for Nina, treasure tonight together with her and please give her a gentle cuddle from me :hug:
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Aw Ems, what a shock :hug: So sorry to hear this :hug: Will be thinking of you both tomorrow xx
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I am so sorry Ems, am thinking of you tonight :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Am thinking of you and Nina too Ems. Can think of nothing to say except I know how tough this is but it really can be such a comfort to be able do the right thing for her :hug: :hug:
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So sorry to hear poor Ninas fading. :hug: to you Em xx
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So sorry Ems - I can't think of anything to say to comfort you. Make the most of your time with her :hug:
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I am so so sorry Ems - thinking of you and Nina :hug:
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My thoughts are with you, Ems.
xC
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:hug: So sorry Ems xx
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My thoughts are with you, my little one is struggling for his life now at vet's.
It's so unfair hun, :hug:
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Ems I'm so so sorry sweetheart :hug:
No words will take away the heartbreak you are feeling right now, but know that you are giving your little girl the greatest gift we can give them, and setting her free when she is ready to go :hug:
I'll be thinking of you tomorrow honey, and I'm here or on FB if you want to talk :hug:
Much love to you and Jon, and give Nina a gentle cuddle from me, tell her to go and find Max tomorrow, he'll show her the ropes up on the Bridge when she gets there xxxxx
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Em I'm so sorry :hug:
You and nina will be in my thoughts are prayers this evening xxxxx
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Ems my thoughts and prayers are with you and Jon :hug:
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Thinking of you tonight :hug: :hug:
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Thanks everyone :hug: I can't tell you how much we appreciate all your kind wishes :hug:
She is settled upstairs and just wants a bit of peace and quiet at the minute to be honest. Am setting us a den up in the bedroom shortly so we can have a cuddle and go to bed.
Jon is my strength, he went through everything with the vet while I had Nina in my arms feeling like my legs were about to go from under me. He has made all the arrangements for the morning and what will happen afterwards too.
I just can't believe my poor girl is leaving me, I can't help but doubt that we have made the right decision but I was sitting with her earlier and she looked at me with such tired eyes, I know in my heart that she is fading fast and the last thing we want is for her to be having fits (which Austin the vet has said is the next step) and suffering.
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I'm so sorry Ems, thinking of you :hug:
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Oh Ems im so sorry your having to say goodbye to Nina :( its one of the hardest things we have to do when we let them go with dignity and my thoughts will be with you and OH tomorrow, :hug: :hug:
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Oh Ems i am so sorry, i know the feeling . :( Thinking of you, Nina and Jon. :hug: :hug:
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You'll be in my thoughts tomorrow. Even though we know it's the kindest thing to do it doesn't make it any easier.
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Karen
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So sorry :'(
Feel so much for you now :hug:
Thinking of you xx :hug: :hug:
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Sorry to hear the sad news Ems... :(
Will be thinking of you all tonight! :hug: :hug:
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I'm so sorry, Ems. Enjoy the time you have left with Nina. :care: to you and Jon.
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Thinking of you all Ems :grouphug:
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Thinking of you all this morning sweetheart xxxx :hug:
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Just to say I am thinking of You, Nina and John xxxx
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I'm so very sorry about little Nina and am thinking of you and Jon :hug:
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Thanks everyone :hug:
She has gone, it was beautiful. She had a sedative first and went to sleep in my arms then had the last injection and looked so, so peaceful.
We were cuddling her telling her how much we loved her and to look for all the lovely Purrs cats at the bridge who would look after her. (Especially a handsome black boy called Max)
I haven't slept a wink going over everything in my mind, worrying that we weren't doing the right thing. Then as I held her and told her I loved her she looked at me, gave a little sigh and had a contented smile on her face and I knew we had made the right decision for her.
Everybody at the vets was fantasctic, we are bringing her ashes home next week in a lovely casket with an inscription on.
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RIP Sweet Nina, please send a rainbow to mummy and daddy when you arrive on the Bridge! x
Im glad that her passing was a peaceful one... :hug: :hug: :hug: to you both! x
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RIP Nina, no more pain now sweetheart xx
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Ems so very sorry, I know how much you and Jon loved and treasured Nina,take comfort that she had a wonderful life with you, she is at peace now :hug:
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Thinking of you and John and sending you lots of love and :hug:
RIP sweet Nina - play hard at the Bridge xxx
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I am so pleased that she passed peacefully and with a smile on her face, that must have been very comforting :hug: :hug:
RIP Nina and look out for all our friends, its Kockas birthday today so bet there will be a party
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Oh Ems Im so sorry hun :( :hug:
RIP Nina xxx
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Ems I am bawling now having read your last post. What a beautiful way to go and especially giving you that little "smile",you did the right thing honey,however hard it is now,you gave Nina the greatest gift ever.
Thinking of you and Jon x
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Im sure that last little smile was a comfort to you at this very sad time :( you gave her dignity to pass over and thats the best farewell gift to a much loved furbabe and im sure shes now running around on the bridge with all our other furbabes who have gone this year having the time of her life ;D my thoughts are with you both :hug: :hug: RIP Nina safe at the bridge till you meet again :Luv:
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RIP Nina xxxx
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So sorry to hear this Ems, but glad that beautiful Nina passed to the Bridge peacefully :hug:
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Sorry Ems :care:
She wasn't scared as her mum was with her :hug:
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:hug:to both you and Jon
She left with a smile to remind you she will never be faraway :hug:
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Night Night Nina, safe and sound at the Bridge by now until your Mum and Dad are ready to collect you xx
The Greatest Gift
I always knew this time would come,
From the very instant our eyes first met.
How I loved you then! How I love you now!
I made a promise then, and I will keep that promise now...
You will not suffer from a pain that will not heal;
You will not know the loss of a life remembered, now gone.
It is for me alone to make this decision,
The price for the bright joy and pure laughter
You brought me during the time we shared.
I am the only one who can decide when it is time.
When my hope dies, and my fear rides high,
Just when I need you most, I must let you go.
It is for you alone to tell me when you are ready
For without your guidance, I will not know
When to lay my grief, my guilt, my anger
My sorrow and my selfish heart aside
And give you this last gift, this greatest gift.
Your eyes will speak to mine, and I will know.
The pain of this moment is excruciating.
Tears stream down my face in a river of sorrow.
And my heart drowns in a pool of grief.
For you have spoken and I have listened,
And unlike other decisions I have made
This one brings no relief...no comfort...no peace.
For if there´s one thing you´ve taught me,
If there´s only one thing I´ve learned...
Unconditional love has a condition after all,
I must be willing to let you go, when you speak to me
I must be willing to help you go, if you cannot go alone.
And I must accept my pain so you can be free of yours.
Go easily now, go quickly now,
Do not linger here, it is time for you to leave.
Go find your strength, go find your youth.
Go find the ones who've gone before you.
You are free to leave me now, free to let your spirit soar
Rest easy now, your pain will soon be gone.
I pray I will find comfort in my memories...
In the dark and lonely days ahead.
I cannot say I will not miss you, I cannot say I will not cry.
For only my tears can heal my broken heart.
But, I promise you this; as long as I live,
You will live, alive in my mind, forever in my heart.
So I give you this last gift, all I have left to give,
And this will be my greatest gift...sending you away.
It is the measure of my unconditional love...
For only the greatest love can say,
"Good-bye, go find the bridge, we'll meet again,
Loving you has been the greatest gift of all."
Forever and Always... Until Rainbow bridge....
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Lots of hugs to you and Jon, Ems. Thinking of you :hug:
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So sorry to hear about Nina
:candle: :RIP: :candle: :RIP: :candle: :RIP:
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so sad. RIP little Nina.
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RIP Nina :(
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Hope you managed to catch up on some sleep earlier honey :hug:
RIP sweet Nina, play hard on the Bridge sweetheart, and yes, do go and find Mr Max, he'll show you around xxxxx
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I'm so very sorry Ems - you gave her the greatest gift , a peaceful , diginified last sleep. :hug: :hug:
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Thank you so much everyone :hug:
Have done my Rainbow Bridge thread which has helped too
xx
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You did the Most Couragous thing for Nina and let Her go with Dignity :shy:
My thought's are with you both
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So sorry to hear about Nina - she went with love and dignity . :RIP:
Play with all the fur babies at the bridge , fit and healthy again. :hug: :hug: :hug:
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So sorry Ems :hug: I'm pleased she went peacefully, RIP Nina :RIP: