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Cat Rescue & Rehoming => Rescue & Rehoming General => Topic started by: Cheesecat on March 04, 2009, 08:52:27 AM
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I had hoped I wouldn't be posting one of these threads at any point..
On Monday I had an email from Magsy's new owners to say that she had started inappropriate peeing in the dining room of their house and they asked if I had any advice. They said that she only does it in one room and will go in her tray as normal if she does not have access to this room.
I sent an email yesterday with all the advice I could think of (I made a thread in health and behaviour in case anyone here could think of anything else).
I have had another email now to say she has tried everything but the feliway and thinks it is not health related as it is just in the one room. At the end of the email she has asked if she can bring Mags back here :(
Which brings me onto dilemma number 2!
Our cats are so much more chilled out and happy without her here because none of them got on together as she did not like them and would swipe at them etc when all four were living here together. I don't feel it is fair to bring them all back living together again if Mags is returned but it seems my only other option is going to be to keep her in a pen in another room which doesn't seem too fair on her either? Either that or look for a rescue space for her but then I feel I have let her down :(
I am really gutted Mags' new home hasn't worked out - especially when the first few emails seemed so positive, its so strange her behaviour suddenly changed.
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Oh dear its awful when they come back in.
I suppose the obvious 3 things to try and I'm sure you been through them is thoroughly clean the area, put a litter tray in the area or not let her in to the dining room for a while. Or of course all three just to make sure.
If you have no room for her then see if the owner will hold onto her for a while until there is room.
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Unfortunately, from my experience, once they have made up their minds that they want to return the cat, no amount of persuasion or advice will deter them from that, whether the problem is solved or not!
It is always awkward when one is coming back that upsets the apple cart so to speak. When Pippa was returned I had to place her in the study as she did not get on with the other cats and then made a conserted (sp) effort to find another home for her. Is it possible you can keep her separate and then get her on the News Box here or on TopCat at CatChat.
I know exactly what you mean about feeling like you have let her down, but it is not you who has let her down, it is her new owners but I bet they will not cut themselves up about it as much as you will :hug:
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Thats so sad that she is coming back have you spoken to DD re Magsy
Do you have a spare room she could have as her own for a little while so she is shunted around to much :hug:
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Oh, Dawn. :hug: I read the thread in H&B but the advice given was what I would've said. Have they not even sprung for a vet visit? Just because she toilets in one specific area, doesn't mean it's not health related I don't think.
I'm not sure what you could do regarding the disruption it causes your cats, but tend to agree with getting in touch with DD.
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Thanks for the advice :thanks:
The spare room would be a good idea if she would tolerate that - she had a spare room in our last place but we had to let her out as she was trying to tunnel her way out and was constantly at the door, thats how she came to live with our other three even though they did not get on with each other.
I thought DD was trying to slim her numbers down so I haven't contacted her. It seems silly but I felt that contacting any rescue makes it seem as I have let her down as I am trying to pass her on elsewhere. Sorry if that sounds a bit silly :scared:
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Thanks for the advice :thanx:
I thought DD was trying to slim her numbers down so I haven't contacted her. It seems silly but I felt that contacting any rescue makes it seem as I have let her down as I am trying to pass her on elsewhere. Sorry if that sounds a bit silly :scared:
I know DD is trying to get her numbers down but I am sure she would be pleased to put Magnolia on her CatChat page for you and put a few feelers out to see if there is another home out there for her.
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What a shame this hasn't worked out for Magnolia :( It does sound as though they have made their minds up about returning her. If it's only the one room she does it in, could they not just keep her out of that room? At least for as long as it takes to hopefully break the habit.
Don't know what to suggest really :( but can offer some :hug:
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Thats such a shame....and a shame the new owners wont try for abit longer (although this says to me they arnt the right people for her )
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Thats such a shame....and a shame the new owners wont try for abit longer (although this says to me they arnt the right people for her )
I'd have to agree, such a shame though for Magsy Moo :(
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i dont think the new owners tried very hard cos your other thread was quite new.
poor little cat and am sure her probs were caused by something her owners were doing.
i am sorry that she is having to come back to you but hopefully a new forever home is just round the corner :hug:
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I have emailed her new owner as I didn't want to leave her wondering what I was going to say :shify:
I asked that she give me a few days to sort out what I am going to do, if I can't find a solution by the weekend she can come back here but will have to only be in one room and see how it goes with the tunnelling!! Thinking about it logically, it would be preferable to get her a rescue space if possible, even if it does make me feel terrible - its the best thing for her.
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:hug: If she does end up back with you, Wilkos do carpet protector for about £4 for a decent sized roll. (We have to use it in our house as our cats don't cope well with the concept of a closed door!)
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Sorry to hear shes being returned :( its a shame they arent willing to work through this problem, there must be something that has triggered it as she never did it with you and as you say she didnt get on with your lot so you would think that any toiletting would have materialised before this!
Also as you just fostered mags you shouldnt feel you cant return her to dawn, its this kind of thing that needs to be outlined when fostering to save any awkward feeling.
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So sorry to hear this hun. Have you had a reply from them yet??
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Yeah I just checked now - I had a response to say that there is no 'ultimatum' so they are OK with keeping her until the weekend and they have asked to let me know what happens.
Typical that its tonight we go out for Phil's birthday so I could only get online again to check now :scared:
I'll update tomorrow when I can, back in work! I have listed her back on top cats :shy: (sorry this is brief - laptop battery on way out!)
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:hug: :hug: hope it goes well with Magnolia.
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This obviously wasnt meant to be! :(
Hope her true forever home turns up soon! :hug:
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We have had several cats come to us whose owners had begged us to take them because they "wee and poo everywhere". Not one of these cats has actually failed to use the tray in our care. We have an example with us right now - Tilly. Tilly's owners were insistant she refused to use a tray, but right from the word go with our fosterer she has never had one accident. :sneaky:
Sometimes they use the 'inappropriate toileting' as an excuse to dump a cat, or change their minds after they adopt. Sometimes it is genuine and puss really is soiling but it's always, always due to stress in the home from our experience. But I agree with Lesley, once they have made up their mind to get rid, no offers of Feliway or vet investigation or advise will change their minds. :(
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A glimmer of hope...
I have had an email today from the lady who rescued Mags to say she's taken the day off work to get the carpet steam cleaned as she's seen this advice on a forum - she is going to keep Mags another week and see if the steam cleaning can remove the smell and break the habit.
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I said it might be best to also put a tray in the area for a few days after the clean.
Cross your fingers for Mags! :)
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sounds as if this may not be a case then of just wanting rid
come on Mags, use that tray, love
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I really hope this works out, it would be so lovely if this is her true forever home after all :wish:
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Keeping fingers crossed
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C'mon Magsy Moo - win 'em over! ;)
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Come on Magnolia you can do it :hug:
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I do hope the steam cleaning works. I have a real soft spot for Magnolia - I fell in love with her when you first posted her piccie :Luv2:
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Fingers crossed. It's positive that she wants to try the cleaning.
Come on Magsy!
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In my carpet cleaner I put Surgical Spirit in the water bit, so it goes down with the shampoo and again with the clean water. The steam drives it down into the carpet. Works for me and saves the scrubbing! :sneaky:
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Just to let you know that I haven't heard anything so far... fingers crossed that no news is good news and I will let you know if I hear anything! :wow:
dabs - I didn't know surgical spirit was good for cat smells! I will remember that ;D
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dabs - I didn't know surgical spirit was good for cat smells! I will remember that ;D
Bi-carb is also good! ;)
Sounds good with the no news is good news....fingers crossed! :hug:
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I said it might be best to also put a tray in the area for a few days after the clean.
Cross your fingers for Mags! :)
I would've thought that's a reallly sensible idea. Am glad they've decided to give it a try.
I have to say that many years ago, when I was a proud young homeowner, we acquired a rescue dog who was a beautiful and well mannered girl, but who had such separation anxiety that she almost destroyed our home if we left her alone for longer than ten minutes at a time - she ate carpets, stripped paper from the walls, scratched woodwork, destroyed slippers, cushions, baskets, blankets - allsorts. She had me at the very edge of distraction to the point where I insisted OH returned her to the Cat & Dog Shelter.
The dread day came when he took her back. I arrived home that evening - to find her sitting there, ears drooping, tail wagging shyly and OH was just as bad! The people at the shelter had sent him away again, armed with various tips to try which we hadn't used, and after about a month, we had one of the best dogs a couple could ever have wanted. She became happy and relaxed and the "bad" behaviour stopped. I had no idea at the time how badly affected some dogs could be from the things they'd experienced in their lives, and - I'm ashamed to say - I used to work at another, council run cat and dog shelter in my early teens, so you'd have thoguht (hoped) I'd have had more sense!
Cats - well now, they're still a mystery to me... ;) :evillaugh:
Got everything crossed they'll give Magnolia another chance, and that she - sensible girl - will take it.
(But not if she's unhappy there - if that's the case then she needs to catch the 41 bus from the front bus stop to Cheese, Doc and Gert's house and to tell the driver that she's travelling unaccompanied and doesn't have the bus fare etc. Oh yes, and not to cross the road without looking both ways first and making sure it's safe to do so. And not to talk to strangers either. :shify:)
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Got everything crossed they'll give Magnolia another chance, and that she - sensible girl - will take it.
(But not if she's unhappy there - if that's the case then she needs to catch the 41 bus from the front bus stop to Cheese, Doc and Gert's house and to tell the driver that she's travelling unaccompanied and doesn't have the bus fare etc. Oh yes, and not to cross the road without looking both ways first and making sure it's safe to do so. And not to talk to strangers either. :shify:)
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Still no news. I am going to email soon if I don't hear anything, she normally emails me in the early evening so we will see what happens tonight. I am still hoping no news is good news! :wish:
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I am still hoping no news is good news!
I second that Dawn. :wish:
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Fingers and toes crossed here :Luv:
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.....and here xx
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I am still hoping no news is good news!
I second that Dawn. :wish:
Thirded! Magsy Moo deserves a forever home. :)
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Finger crossed for little Magnolia, she does deserve a forever home. :hug:
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Apparently no news = bad news :(
I've received an email to say that Magsy will have to be rehomed as she has offended in another area of the house - the email says something along the line of (not got it open in front of me) "We simply did not sign up for a non house trained cat" !!
I sent an email back to say that I have been in touch with DD about the situation and will let her know as soon as I do, I also passed her on Dawn's email and the rescue number in case she wants to get in touch with her about it at the weekend as I am away unfortunately so wont be able to check online.
I also said that I cannot agree that she is a non house trained cat! I do not know what to suggest advice wise but I suppose it doesn't matter now anyway :Dont know:
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That's so sad. Cats are clean by nature, so for her to be doing this, something must be stressing her about her new environment. :(
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I am really upset to read this thread and upset to see that many are blaming Magnolias new owners; poor Magnolia is in danger of being let down badly all round, I think its time a little truth is injected into this thread and the just maybe Magnolia will get the help she needs.
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What truth do you mean, Teresa? What help do you feel Magsy needs? Not trying to cause conflict, I'm genuinely asking. :)
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What truth do you mean, Teresa? What help do you feel Magsy needs? Not trying to cause conflict, I'm genuinely asking. :)
It was me that found the home for Magnolia after she appeared on my Catchat pages ,there is a reason why she was put on my site which I feel would be wrong to disclose fully, I know Cheesecat and Phil gave her a wonderful home which was full of love during her time with them and that they treated her as their own: However Magnolia DID have inappropriate soiling behaviour while she was with them which I was led to believe was stress related due to the fact that she needed to be an only cat. I really feel that it is in Magnolias interest that she is checked thoroughly by a vet to rule out cystitis or indeed other health problems , she also needs to go into a Rescue with the facilities to Pen her away from other cats; sorry but if this problem is not resolved properly this little one is going to suffer.
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I am sure I mentioned this elsewhere on purrs, the only reason I did not mention it on this thread is because I did not think the situation was relevant. The issue in the new home is that the new owner (who does seem to have tried lots of things!) is having issues with Mags going to the loo in appropriately, to the point where she says she does not think she is toilet trained - she was not like that here as she went in the tray every time once we sorted the below issue.
Magnolia only toileted outside the tray here when Doc was keeping her away from the tray (he used to torment her and actually sit by it waiting for her, or wait for her to come out of the room she used to mainly go into during the day) Once we put another tray out where Mags used to go to get away from him (in the room upstairs) this stopped. It was not a recurring issue or something that took place more than a couple of times and was easily remedied once we realised the problem and caught Doc out so it does not link with what is happening at the moment in the new home as there are no other cats present. I didn't mention it because that was caused by Doc (he is a bully of a cat sometimes, and was to Magnolia, this is the main reason I would rather she did not come back here as he made her stressed I feel)
I suppose people will probably think bad of me now? Again I am really sure I have spoke about this elsewhere and in no way do I want to be thought of as a liar! Wish i hadn't gotten into this now.
Edited to say: the lady who adopted her has said she believes it is behavioural as it was always in the same place every time and when she was not allowed in that room she would not do it. I really cannot think (as she is indoor and so can't be stressed by other cats) why this is going on.
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I suppose people will probably think bad of me now? Again I am really sure I have spoke about this elsewhere and in no way do I want to be thought of as a liar! Wish i hadn't gotten into this now.
Hey I for one dont think bad of you :hug: dont ever say you wish that you hadnt gotten into it where would magnolia be now if you didnt foster her :shocked: by the sounds of it she dosnt have a line of people wanting to foster or adopt her :( hope her peeing problems are sorted soon :Luv2:
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I suppose people will probably think bad of me now? Again I am really sure I have spoke about this elsewhere and in no way do I want to be thought of as a liar! Wish i hadn't gotten into this now.
Hey missus - don't be daft! No-one thinks that. :hug: :hug:
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I suppose people will probably think bad of me now? Again I am really sure I have spoke about this elsewhere and in no way do I want to be thought of as a liar! Wish i hadn't gotten into this now.
Hey missus - don't be daft! No-one thinks that. :hug: :hug:
What she said :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Cheesecat in no way am I implying that you are lying,I have already said what excellent care you provided for Magnolia and everyone knows this.
No one thinks badly of you, I think you should be applauded for the effort you have put in to Magnolias welfare. :hug:
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Dawn, noone thinks badly of you. :hug: Teresa, I think you're right regarding the vet visit. :)
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I've only very quickly skimmed over this topic as not got much time but to me..... problem could either be behavioural or medical / physical. Certainly a vet visit to rule out any conditions would be a positive step and hopefully may shed some light on the situation.
Regardless of that though Dawn.... if you were only the original fosterer then surely it should be the rescue who found the home that should be dealing with this not you?
We had a simliar case with Cassie who in the end came back to live with us and went to my mums place. she was good as gold whilst here, moved her on and she had lots of toileting probs. Brought her back... and she's been fine again! but at not time did the fosterer deal with any of the issues with the new owners, we did.
I'm sure whichever way things will work out for the best certainly you are talking with the right people to help resolve the issue. well done for still caring :hug:
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Regardless of that though Dawn.... if you were only the original fosterer then surely it should be the rescue who found the home that should be dealing with this not you?
Got to disagree with this point Sarah, it should be the rescue that Dawn was fostering for that should be providing support. I merely helped Dawn in finding a home for Magnolia, I will let people draw their own conclusions as to why I was asked to became involved in the first place; I have given support in the past and will continue to support Dawn if I am able.
Magnolia needs help, Dawn needs support using things like this to apportion blame on innocent parties is not going to solve the problem.Time people started putting the cat first rather than friends and petty arguments.
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I have no idea about the ins and outs of the situation, but have to agree that the original rescue should (in my opinion) take Magnolia in if there's a problem in her new home.
Hopefully Magsy Moo will get a vet visit soon to rule out medical issues.
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Teresa the only person dishing out blame that I can see is you. Most of us don't know the situation behind this and were offering Dawn support and a sounding board with the current situation which she is clearly upset about.
up until your cloak and daggers post we were completely oblivious to whatever else was going on in the background (me included). I don't see the point in posting in this way. It doesn't serve to help anyone and only causes upset as is already clearly visible by Dawns post.
Rather than cloak and dagger posts please take it offline rather than upsetting others if your not going to explain your posts.
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Ladies, let's bring this back to point if you will, I appreciate not everyone is clear on how Magnolia's situation came about, however, let's focus on the fact that she needs assistance. Thanks
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Can I suggest if the people who currently have her are reluctant to pay for a vet check, we all try and put a little in for the check up to rule out a health issue? It's just an idea, noone's obligated.
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I would be willing to do that - just say the word
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:) Thanks Yvonne - like I said, just an idea. I don't know for certain that the current carers aren't prepared to. ;)
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Ahhh poor mags ... she must be stressed about something. Cheese you mustn't blame yourself in anyway for this behavioral problem ... as we all know cats are very complex little creatures and she mustn't be feeling happy in her new home for some reason.
Have the new owners had her to the vet to check for cystitis? (sorry if this has been mentioned already .. I've only scan read the thread).
Fingers crossed it will all be sorted soon :hug:
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I have sent an email to the lady who has adopted her to ask if she would mind taking her to the vets to rule out a health issue - I also hinted about possibly being able to get the costs covered to see if she is OK with that.
I said she is the best person to take her as she is the one who can give the vet information on when its happening, how often, her behaviour at the time etc.
At least if she agrees to this it helps us find out if it is a health issue before I can then try and think of a solution based on whether its a health or behavioural issue.
Thanks for the support of all on here its just disheartening when something like this happens. Sorry if I have been having a bit of a moan I am just rather clueless for next steps so I think the vet visit is the best thing to do if possible.
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:hug: :hug: Dawn, it must be a huge disappointment this hasn't worked out - noone blames you for having a moan.
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I got a very quick reply to the email I sent! :)
Mags is going to the vets tomorrow and the fee is not a problem, I think the reason she wasn't taken before was because they were so sure it was behavioural.
I must admit I don't know a great deal about cystitis in cats but I found a link to send for more information. It does mention toileting outside the tray as a symptom. I just hope that it is something that is easily treated as at least then she will be getting the care to rectify the problem and hopefully things will work out for the better, I have my fingers crossed!
The email says 'If we can stop this behaviour, we'd be so happy to keep her.'
Think positive thoughts for Mags tomorrow please :wish:
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Thinking positive thoughts for Magsy. :hug: :hug:
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Best wishes for Magnolia xx
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All positive vibes will be sent Magsy's way tomorrow :Luv2: :Luv2: :Luv2:
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Sending loads of positive vibes Magsy's way :Luv:
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Sending dear Magnolia lots of positive vibes.
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Positive thoughts for darling Mags! :hug:
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Hope it went well for Magnolia :hug:
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Just checked my emails, thought I would give an update...
Just a quick update, I thought you'd want one. We've been to the vet and he said a test would mean a needle into her bladder under sedation, so the best thing to do first is treat potential cystitus. She is apparently sensitive around the bladder, which may be a symptom of the problem.
So - we have got her on six days of antibiotics and if the problem is still happening by the end of that course, we will go with the needle option. We will obviously keep her while this is ongoing and the diagnosing is taking place. We want nothing more than for this to be something we can fix, so she can stay.
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that sounds encouraging
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Definitely a positive email.....hopefully they can get to the root of the problem.
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Keeping our fingers crossed here for little Magnolia. :wish: :hug:
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fingers crossed here as well :hug:
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Good news ;D
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Thats good news and without this sounding awful I hope its something physical and not behavioural! :hug:
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Am glad they've decided to stick with it, to see if this can be resolved. :wish:
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Glad they took her to the vet, although I disagree with the vets advice - it is easy to test for cystitis, and you dont know how best to treat it without a urine sample, as sometimes they are resistant to a certain type of ab. What do they feed her?
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Is the test you know of the needle into the bladder test Desley? Or something else?
As far as I know, they feed JWB Lamb and Rice as they asked me what she liked and I told them ;D she pretty much will eat anything though so not sure if they stuck to that or gave her other things.
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This is sounding more hopeful, fingers crossed.
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I am so glad that this is sounding positive for all parties
I feel that we can all offer advice but as their vet is treating her that they listen to them
Opinions help but the vet treating Magsy and her owner are the best folks for this now as they seem happy to spend the money to get to the bottom of the problem
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Fingers crossed they stick with it Dawn, does she have outdoor access? Could something out there be upsetting her?
I am so glad that this is sounding positive for all parties
I feel that we can all offer advice but as their vet is treating her that they listen to them
Opinions help but the vet treating Magsy and her owner are the best folks for this now as they seem happy to spend the money to get to the bottom of the problem
True liz but there are other ways to collect urine without sedating a cat as many members can confess to, its quicker to sort a problem if you know what you are dealing with. The advice given here that has been passed on has obviously helped as she hasnt yet been returned so i cant see it hurts to offer Dawn more info if she wants it.
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Glad to hear that they are persevering and really hope it works out.
For info, Blip had urine drawn from her bladder without sedation some years ago and was totally stoical about it: not so much as a miaow. She didn't have a sensitive bladder though.
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I echo Christine's comments about Blip. Lexy has had urine drawn by needle twice and all done without sedation (and for Lexy you have to know that's something!)
Best of luck xx
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Max had urine extracted last time he had his bloods done too, I coudn't get a sample and we really wanted to test it alongside his usual results for his kidney function etc. No sedation necessary for him :)
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The majority of time cystitis isnt caused by bacteria anyway so antibiotics arent needed, its often a combination of several factors like stress, feeding dry food, inactivity.
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Liz - while that is generally true, it is very easy to test a urine sample, they can collect a urine sample themselves from home, she doesn't need to go to the vet, all they need is a bag of Katkor. One from the bladder can be better, but as others have proved, sedation isnt always needed - Tom was only sedated once, and I suspect that was a lazy vet, as my vets had him there all day and got a urine sample without even using a needle, never mind sedation. By not even having a sample, they dont know if they are using the right antibiotics, or whether it is crystals and not cystitis, in which case they need a different approach. I am also surprised they haven't been told to change her diet - dry food only makes cats more prone to urinary issues, my vet bans it completely until they are completly free of cystitis, and I have to limit it in cats that are prone to it. If urinary issues are proved, Cystaid could also be a big help, as it helps soothe the lining of the bladder.
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I have sent an email recommending wet food only if the vet has not already advised this and also the cystaid -where can you buy that? ;D
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Any online pharmacy Dawn, vet uk etc, you have to buy a full tub but it works out much cheaper than getting 2 weeks supply from the vet
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I paid £8 a month for Toms Cystaid, I can't remember the online price though, jsut that I didn't want 250 tablets. Not all vets use it though, but worth asking.
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It may be very easy to test a urine sample Desley but I remember alor about you yourself having an awful lot of trouble collecting one, cystitis is a painful and uncomfortable condition so I always feel that time is of the essence in order to help alleviate the cat from such discomfort, if that means expressing the bladder or using a needle to extract it then so be it.
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have to say we take ours to the vet for this to be done as isolating some of ours is to traumatic for them and some folks don't want to have to put the crystals in the litter tray and they take sample to vet
We hope that no news sop far is good news and that dear magsy is being a good girl
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Any news? I kind of hope they haven't been in touch because things are resolved!
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Nothing as yet - I have sent a few emails though with all the advice given on here. I just have my fingers tightly crossed for Magsy moo :Luv2:
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Fingers crossed here too xx
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And here :Luv:
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no news must be good news, maybe she did need vet treatment after all and has been sorted
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at least it seems the owners are genuinely doing their best to resolve Magnolia's problems, so there must be a good chance they will succeed
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Oh Dawn have only just caught up on this :hug:
Poor Mags, I hope it all works out :hug:
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Any news on this hun??
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Yep any news on the lovely girl?
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Just read this. Poor mags.
I must agree, the rescue involved with mags should take full responsability and not the fosterer?
I still have one of the caravan cats here and she has to have 2 litter trays. I placed the 1st in the bathroom as she chose to live upstairs and we found she was messing up on the top floor outside sons bedroom door aswell as using litter tray down stairs in bathroom. I moved the litter tray to top floor as though that might be where she prefers it but she still also kept going in bathroom spot, so ended up with 2 litter trays for her.
I am glad they have taken her to vets and hope it is something thats treatable and helps her.
Any news yet?
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Okay i couldn't take it any longer and had to email for an update!
Good news ;D after the treatment for cystitis (sp?) Mags has started using her tray again and is being a good girl! :Luv2:
She is even getting the chance to venture into the garden now and is definitely staying in her new home!
Cue the dancing bananas I reckon :yayyy: :yayyy:
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great news!!!!
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;D that's such good news she deserves it :Luv:
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Indeed! :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: Great news, Dawn.
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That's wonderfull! I'm so pleased for Magsy Moo :Luv2: :Luv2:
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fantastic news! :hug:
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Great news :Luv2: I so love happy endings :hug:
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Fab news! :wow:
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Brilliant news :)
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Great news Dawn :hug:
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stunning result and hope that her ownwers will now use the vet as first port of call ;D ;D
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Cue the dancing bananas I reckon :yayyy: :yayyy:
Yep! :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy:
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Fab news. :)
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Woooooooooooooooo!! Yay Magsy!!!!!
:yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy: :yayyy:
:yesss: :yesss: :yesss: :yesss: :yesss: :yesss: :yesss: :yesss: :yesss: :yesss:
:Luv:
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Am glad to hear this